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Cold snap Jan 10th onwards: Wintry Showers, Snow Accumulations for some

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  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭snowinwinter


    Snowing very heavy in Maghera again and starting to lay. 100 meters above sea level. Not over yet

    Seen that shower on the radar it keeps intensifying. It missed me by a few miles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭mountainy man


    Heavy snow shower and a roll of thunder, snow starting to stick now. 0.4C. dp -1.8C.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    Bit of graupel here in terenure.


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭snowinwinter


    Belfast is gonna get hit by that shower now. Gonna snow like hell, thats the kind of thing you need to drop the temps to get snow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭screamer


    Snowing here, south laois 150M ASL


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭snowinwinter


    Don't be listening to the posters talking about lying snow on the net weather forum, the posters on that forum may have a cm of snow at their houses but sweet nothing here or anywhere else at low ground. Most of them are 150m+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Recent snow here, dewpoint 0.5c, air 1.8c.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    60% rain 40% snow falling here in Carlow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    Heavy sleet shower in Galway city, temp 3.8C, DP 2.5C


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    owenc is permanently banned from the weather forum so it's neither fair nor appropriate to discuss him seeing as he can't respond

    If you suspect a rereg then report it - please don't speculate on-thread

    Thanks guys


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭sunbabe08


    a cold front!!!!!!!! woot!!! stay away mild front. not welcome in winter time


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    A dusting of snow here on the car in north Kilkenny, over 200m altitude.


  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭gingergirl


    Tis right strange weather we're having


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Oh well hello there Mr Trough! :D
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  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭snowinwinter


    Ok I think I am going to give up on the snow front tonight. Another let down and disappointment.

    The showers are getting lighter and temp has risen to 2.5c.. Not even going to bother waiting for Tuesday to get excited because it will be the same old sleety nonsense.

    It nearly always seems like the snowline and the fun is at 200m. Don't know why but literally everytime I drive up a hill or mountain thats where the snow starts. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    gingergirl wrote: »
    Tis right strange weather we're having

    It sure is ..................last night it was 15 degrees on my car screen , and tonight its 2 degrees , but feels like about minus 5


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭snowinwinter


    It sure is ..................last night it was 15 degrees on my car screen , and tonight its 2 degrees , but feels like about minus 5

    Yep, I was looking at my base station last night and the temp was about 14c at 1am and then like 4 hours later 2c..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Very interesting feature there Ian, could bring widespread snow.

    Tuesday is a very interesting day for youse in Ireland especially.

    And that feature winds up dramatically over Britain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭FWVT


    A westerly just doesn't bring proper snow. 850 hPa temperatures and 500-1000 thicknesses do not guarantee snow. Met Eireann were 100% correct with their "conservative" forecast. Next time maybe people will listen.

    21Z

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  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭snowinwinter


    I am beginning to think you are right you know about westerlies, usually almost any airmass would bring lying snow with -8c uppers but we are struggling tonight really badly. I guess the main factor is the wet bulb line.

    I've noticed it can rain to the bitter end in these air masses, even right down to 1.0c. I did expect to see more snow though based on the met office warning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    nice bit of sleet in athlone - tis wonderful to see ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Ive looked out my window and can report there is big flakes of wet snow falling here in north meath


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 230 ✭✭AnotherYear


    @FWVT So are you saying Monday night/Tuesday will be another non event in your opinion? From the West again but I believe it always meant to be more likely than today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    FWVT wrote: »
    A westerly just doesn't bring proper snow. 850 hPa temperatures and 500-1000 thicknesses do not guarantee snow. Met Eireann were 100% correct with their "conservative" forecast. Next time maybe people will listen.

    21Z

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    What are you going on about? They didn't even mention sleet or snow in their national forecast and it quite evidently snowed and sleeted in a good few places.

    I don't understand why you keep flogging this?


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭snowinwinter


    @FWVT So are you saying Monday night/Tuesday will be another non event in your opinion? From the West again but I believe it always meant to be more likely than today

    Well to be honest Tuesday looks really cold with a wet bulb freezing level and a freezing level of 300m so that would certainly deliver snow but after todays unexpected failure I am not holding out any hope.

    It seems to be nigh on impossible to get a covering of snow lately.


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭snowinwinter


    What are you going on about? They didn't even mention sleet or snow in their national forecast and it quite evidently snowed and sleeted in a good few places.

    I don't understand why you keep flogging this?

    Yes but it didn't deliver what -8/9c uppers would normally do i.e. a couple of cm's of snow at least.

    It just wet snowed for a few hours and then its gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 230 ✭✭AnotherYear


    FWVT wrote: »
    A westerly just doesn't bring proper snow. 850 hPa temperatures and 500-1000 thicknesses do not guarantee snow. Met Eireann were 100% correct with their "conservative" forecast. Next time maybe people will listen.

    21Z

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    I disagree regarding the Westerly comment. Granted they are usually useless but page 120 of the snow lovers appreciation thread Oneiric 3 supplied this picture of snow from a Westerly last February.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭FWVT


    What are you going on about? They didn't even mention sleet or snow in their national forecast and it quite evidently snowed and sleeted in a good few places.

    And yet only 4 of the 31 official stations and regional airports on the island received snow, and all were above 150 m.

    No photos here of snow at low levels, as would normally happen. Nothing.

    Sleet doesn't deserve a thread, I'm afraid.

    Hands up those who are happy about today's snow?


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Blue light pub near stepaside reporting on Facebook that it is starting to snow up there


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭snowinwinter


    I disagree regarding the Westerly comment. Granted they are usually useless but page 120 of the snow lovers appreciation thread Oneiric 3 supplied this picture of snow from a Westerly last February.

    Yup provided snow here too.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭snowinwinter


    FWVT wrote: »
    And yet only 4 of the 31 official stations and regional airports on the island received snow, and all were above 150 m.

    No photos here of snow at low levels, as would normally happen. Nothing.

    Sleet doesn't deserve a thread, I'm afraid.

    Hands up those who are happy about today's snow?

    Well why would anyone take a picture of snow falling? We get about 20days a year so its no big deal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Northern Chaser


    A layer of snow in carryduff and still snowing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    Lumi wrote: »
    owenc is permanently banned from the weather forum so it's neither fair nor appropriate to discuss him seeing as he can't respond

    If you suspect a rereg then report it - please don't speculate on-thread

    Thanks guys

    owenc and snowinwinter now site banned - permanently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    18z teeing up something more significant for Tuesday. Lovely snow chart for south and east. Note secondary low crossing the south.

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    Lovely. Development begins at just 48 hrs so can't be taken lightly. But is it a pub run special sadly to disappear in 6 hours time? Note how it is exactly the right depth not to introduce onshore southerly or easterly winds, just what we want.


    EDIT: Sorry yeh all posted already - got giddy with excitement :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Sigh...

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    The hot headness in here is keeping temps high :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭FWVT


    @FWVT So are you saying Monday night/Tuesday will be another non event in your opinion? From the West again but I believe it always meant to be more likely than today

    There will be a slightly more southwesterly component to the flow than there was today, but the airmass off Greenland and Canada will be colder, so it remains to be seen how much modification will occur in the lowest levels. ECMWF has 850 hPa temperatures around the same as today, but around 150 m lower down (~1280 m vs ~1430 m). Convection should be stronger, so on paper it looks a better prospect. Still strong winds so not much cooling in the hours of darkness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    FWVT wrote: »

    Sleet doesn't deserve a thread, I'm afraid.

    Hands up those who are happy about today's snow?

    I think you need to grow up a little bit to be perfectly honest.

    At no stage did anyone say that any sort of event was going to occur. This thread is also split in to two - one for yesterday, one for midweek but such nuances are conveniently swept aside in favor of attacking other posters, saying things that were never said and taking things out of context (on purpose).

    You would also think we were not dealing with a set of highly volatile dynamic variables and rather something written on a tablet set in stone. Really...

    Can we move on now?

    Monday evening onward should be the focus now and there is a lot to focus on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭FWVT


    I think you need to grow up a little bit to be perfectly honest.

    At no stage did anyone say that any sort of event was going to occur. This thread is also split in to two - one for yesterday, one for midweek but such nuances are conveniently swept aside in favor of attacking other posters, saying things that were never said and taking things out of context (on purpose).

    Can we move on now?

    Monday evening onward should be the focus now and there is a lot to focus on.

    Well, firstly the title "Snow showers from early Saturday to Sunday", then all of these statements, would tend to get people's hopes up. It didn't meet these expectations, so we'll leave it at that and I'll go and now grow up.
    Folks,

    Snow showers becoming heavy and frequent in the northwest and north early Saturday morning should extend to many other places (but not all) during daylight hours with the potential for significant falls in the northwest particularly later Saturday evening. The far southeast could stay dry.
    I wouldn't be as pessimistic as Iancar29 regarding snowfall at low levels on Saturday nor how widespread precipitation may be given most of the variables are on the right side of favourable but I agree with Redsunset to a certain extent that the bigger "prize" potentially is from Monday night. Lots of interesting outcomes available for the following few days. It's not a question of whether we will get snow but rather how much and in what form because there is a hint around midweek that a secondary low from the southwest might interact with this air mass bringing potentially a longer period of sleet and snow to some places for a while. But it's too early for specifics.

    12z's out soon. We can start going in to more detail at this stage for the weekend anyway.

    But I know some get frustrated with the language we have to use here at times and how it can seem unclear, indecisive and confusing.

    It will turn much colder this weekend with snow showers on Saturday and Saturday night. Most of these in the northwest and down along the west coast so places like Derry, Sligo, Galway, Limerick etc have a real chance of snow but some getting through to other areas as well. Temperatures during Saturday in low single figures. Slightly milder for Sunday and part of Monday before potentially even colder weather returns again bringing more snow showers and low temperatures.
    There is little or no difference tomorrow north or south. All the variables are met for showers to be of snow well in to the early hours of Sunday morning. Don't worry ;)
    As long as you are away from an immediate windward coast in the west your chances of seeing snow (even in Cork :p ) are quite high. Obviously showers by their nature are hit and miss but even allowing for this they should be plentiful and heavy and dragged to most places on a pretty strong wind. I think most will at least see snowfall tomorrow. As to whether it settles the northwest is the best hope there. But later tomorrow night there should be settling snow elsewhere as well.

    Gone by daylight Sunday - next Tuesday and Wednesday looking ever more interesting though.
    As Pistolpete says this is not an "event" and should not be treated as such. Any disruption should be limited to the north west.

    From around 9 am on wards away from direct windward coasts that is when the cold air digs in and the showers turn to snow although they will be snow at higher levels before that and that is where the bulk of any accumulation of snow will be.

    Through the day the showers will keep coming though the far southeast could stay dry throughout. Favored locations for any significant falls are the north west and just inland of the west coast in Connaught. Showers further east always more scattered and not as heavy.

    Progressively colder through the day. To give some idea of the pace of the fall later on it's progged to be around 12c in the east circa 4am and down to 4 or 5c a couple of hours later. It's a fast steep transition. Temperatures gradually rising from the west during the early hours of Sunday morning with showers dieing out and the snow level rising again.
    The air mass is not quite as cold as was progged up to yesterday evening (the south and southwest barely touching -5c 850hPa temps) but none the less you can see already how today pans out with frequent showers in the northwest and close to Atlantic coasts, more isolated further inland. For Connaught (away from immediate windward coasts), Ulster and North Leinster it looks like a fun day. The southwest, even inland, is much more marginal now for snow at low levels.

    Temp 3.9, DP 0.9


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    I'm a weather watcher not at all practiced in the science of it, like most of you people but the weather seems extremely odd to me at the moment.

    Last night I stood outside in the raging wind in a teeshirt - it was an unsettling thing it was a warm wind at night in January - today hat, coat, scarf and gloves and I was certain of snow flurries...is that the problem - temps raising too quickly when there is precipitation and no preciptation when the temps drop.

    I was certain we were in for snow this year after such a long autumn but perhaps it's going to be one of those freezing March's - it's like we are months behind this year!

    Edit to add: I live in a hilly northwest area so we often see the white stuff!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    FWVT the floor is open to you if you want to have a go. I'm perfectly happy with the thread, happy some saw snow and really I don't think most care that they didn't. That is the nature of these setups in Ireland.

    I think you take things too seriously, are trying to wind me up and/or need to just get over it.

    So yes we'll move on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭FWVT


    FWVT the floor is open to you if you want to have a go. I'm perfectly happy with the thread, happy some saw snow and really I don't think most care that they didn't. That is the nature of these setups in Ireland.

    I think you take things too seriously, are trying to wind me up and/or need to just get over it.

    So yes we'll move on.

    I'm just against all things Madden-esque.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    I don't often take sides but FWVT your spot on, Kermit.de.frog over hyped the thread from the beginning. the forecasts around here should be left to people like Maq, weathercheck and MT who will set up a thread if its necessary. people saw a few flakes of snow today, very few photos etc etc. met eireann were spot on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    FWVT wrote: »
    I'm just against all things Madden-esque.

    This thread was started early on the 8th. At that stage all the models were in firm agreement with the prognosis set out in the OP. I would not have started it otherwise. I don't get the core of your argument - there was nothing extreme or out of the ordinary or not in keeping with the data available right up to the 00z runs last night.

    Indeed this morning TAF's could have been lifted from the OP.

    And FWIW I have on many occasions criticised not only the person you reference and his "agency" or whatever you want to call it but the media in general (not just the UK media) on ridiculous outlandish and scaremongering articles.

    We agree there that's for sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    Closing this thread temporarily until I sort out this mess of low-level trolling, back seat moderation & personal attacks!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    Mod Note

    FWVT, some of your posts on this thread were reported by other members and they can best be described as low-level trolling. Despite a number of reports of snow falling at various low-level locations you posted
    FWVT wrote: »
    So there are no photos of all these places that got low-level snow today? I only saw one from Donegal.
    FWVT wrote: »
    Hmmm...I suppose all their iPhone chargers were broken too. :cool:
    FWVT wrote: »
    No photos here of snow at low levels, as would normally happen. Nothing.

    Sleet doesn't deserve a thread, I'm afraid.

    Hands up those who are happy about today's snow?

    And this post highlighting Kermit.de.frog's posts was in my opinion designed to aggravate/goad him http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93784647&postcount=240 - a breach of the charter

    5. No trolling/goading posts which serve only to aggravate other users.


    I think you need to grow up a little bit to be perfectly honest.
    While you may have felt provoked, you have been around here long enough to know that you report the problem to the mods and let them deal with it. You do not take matters into your own hands because it just derails the thread

    I don't often take sides but FWVT your spot on, Kermit.de.frog over hyped the thread from the beginning. the forecasts around here should be left to people like Maq, weathercheck and MT who will set up a thread if its necessary.
    You do not get to single out a member and suggest that they should not be allowed to post a forecast. This is a discussion forum and our charter states that

    'Everyone is entitled to post and has equal rights whether they are weather experts or complete newbies.'


    Let me be crystal clear - If there is any repeat of this bickering and/or goading I will ban the offender from posting in this thread
    Warnings/infractions have been issued as appropriate now let's move on please and get back to enjoying the weather and participating in this thread

    Do not respond to this warning on-thread, PM me if you have any issues
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    00z GFS dispenses with Tuesday's potential event. Development further south affecting southern UK for a time but snow showers roll in here instead mostly in the west.


    More newsworthy is the potential storm brewing for later Wednesday night.

    But anyway ECM looking good for Tuesday and Tuesday night

    ECM0-72.GIF?11-12


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Aircraft Freak


    I had snow here in the east for about 30 minutes last night, I am on higher ground though, ~750asl.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I had snow here in the east for about 30 minutes last night, I am on higher ground though, ~750asl.

    Did it stick?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Aircraft Freak


    Dónal wrote: »
    Did it stick?

    Nope, but it was quite heavy for about ten minutes, It started raining after that.


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