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Meghan & Harry: WE QUIT

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Loveinapril


    I really don't get the hatred for Meghan. I always thought she appeared quite sweet and Harry has always seemed like a bit of craic. I think it is very brave, what they have done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Not surprising, he never seemed like he lived the royal lifestyle and married a total outsider. He way down the line for King so why bother living that life with all the hassle that goes with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Though the counter argument is that Charles / Camilla and William / Kate are squeaky clean and have barely put a foot wrong in the last few years.

    The monarchy would be at far greater risk if Harry and Meghan had been next in line to the throne and actually taken up the role.

    Except for William's alleged affair with Rose Hanbury that is...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,221 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    NSAman wrote: »
    It will save the British tax payer some money!

    Stepping back as senior members. I'm sure the money will be available if they want it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    rob316 wrote: »
    Not surprising, he never seemed like he lived the royal lifestyle and married a total outsider. He way down the line for King so why bother living that life with all the hassle that goes with it.

    I get the impression he was pissed off with the whole “Royal” thing after not being allowed to go and do some proper soldiering with his regiment in Afghanistan.

    To be trained as an officer and to be lead a group of men, to then see them go off and face danger without you must be quite hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,810 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I really don't get the hatred for Meghan. I always thought she appeared quite sweet and Harry has always seemed like a bit of craic. I think it is very brave, what they have done.

    I followed the royal a tad not a massive interest compared to some. Originally when Megan came on the scene I thought she was fine and I liked Harry. Especially during his wilder days but I think he was really held back.
    I did feel the whole relationship was rushed. Maybe it was Harry just rebelling again.
    The way the media did portray Megan and her family, etc didn't help either. Her family didn't really help the situation.
    It's all a very messy situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I expect the fact that his uncle is clearly into raping underage sex slaves and the family are standing by him, has probably rankled Harry quite a bit, who has inherited his mother's penchant for humanitarian work.

    That and all the racists in the UK giving his wife grief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭screamer


    I find it very strange behavior from people who are intending to shun the limelight to play this stuff out in public. They strike me as attention seeking, and poor old Harry he’s not led around with his big head anyways. Then again Megan has form in shunning family, so I’m not surprised really. William seems to have a far better understanding of how to control the press, whereas Harry’s approach just draws them to him even more.


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's all very Edward VIII & Wallis Simpson.

    Kate Middleton was super lucky.

    Harry went outside to find a wife & it doesn't suit the establishment so he is now leaving.
    The British media etc won't be able to make such a fuss in future


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Why is Meghan Markle disliked?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Why is Meghan Markle disliked?

    Because she's common.
    Because she's black.
    Because she's a yank.

    Not the typical pale, inbred, horsey types the royals usually go for.
    bubblypop wrote: »
    It's all very Edward VIII & Wallis Simpson.

    It's very different. Harry is not going to be king. Edward and Wallis lived in exile for decades and were hated by the Brits. Harry is universally loved. Funny, good looking army boy. So long as he keeps his nose clean wherever he moves to, he'll be fine, and still taken care of financially by the Royals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,531 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I'm guessing the public announcement was a way of ensuring they couldn't be pressurised to carry on as normal, at least until the queen dies.

    For all the money and privilege it looks like a miserable, claustrophobic life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Because she's common.
    Because she's black.
    Because she's a yank.

    Not the typical pale, inbred, horsey types the royals usually go for.

    You forgot previously married too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    rob316 wrote: »
    You forgot previously married too.

    Completely forgot that!
    But I think being a divorcee has less to do with it than being an outsider. Many of the Royals have been divorced. Margaret, Anne, Andrew, Charles, Camilla.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭screamer


    rob316 wrote: »
    You forgot previously married too.

    I’d say because people felt like she’d take away their prince.... and they were right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,810 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Why is Meghan Markle disliked?

    I know the Royal's shouldn't be the one to judge but her messy family and their lack of ability to form a fake bond didn't help either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 324 ✭✭elaney


    It's getting messy with the statement from the Palace. Looks like they are proper annoyed.
    Hope I'm around long enough for this episode on the crown ‚


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Because she's common.
    Because she's black.
    Because she's a yank
    .

    You can hardly call her “black”.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    She will doubtlessly go back to her acting career to earn money, and I think he can fly helicopters/do stuff that can pay an increase me for him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    You can hardly call her “black”.
    Yeah she looks white, but is mixed race so that's enough to rile the dopes.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,146 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    I'd love to know how he'll get a mortgage with no job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    He has a 30 million inheritance from Diana so mortgage no worries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭melon_collie


    Headline on tomorrow's Sun: MEGXIT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Money from Diana and they get a share of Nana's trust fund every few years. Never will be a short of a bob


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    You can hardly call her “black”.

    PoCish


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Headline on tomorrow's Sun: MEGXIT.

    You know they've been just waiting to use that headline since they got married.
    How come Kate Middleton didn't/doesn't get the same treatment as Meghan markle seemed to get ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Supposedly Prince Charles has big plans to scale the whole thing back when he takes over. Lots of peripheral family members are going to have titles and duties taken away from them apart from those in immediate line to take the throne. The statement from the royal family seems shocked/pissed off, but maybe in the grand scheme of things, they weren't going to have much to do anyway once Charles gets the top job.
    The issue with it seems to be that they want to keep their titles and make money off them? That's hardly allowed, is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    I think Meghan is out to make a statement.
    She came in all guns blazing trying to make her mark and do things differently and be seen to be trying to modernise the monarchy.
    I feel she really took inspiration from the likes of #Metoo and #Timesup and Greta Thurnburg to try and push this as a time for change and that she would be instrumental in that change.
    I personally think the monarchy is very stuffy and a serious cost to the UK state but at the same time I see her as acting like the smart ass kid in the class who thinks they know more than the teacher.
    If they're stepping aside from the monarchy, they need to give up their titles and their Windsor Castle home plus pay for their own security detail going forward.

    To thine own self be true



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Why is Meghan Markle disliked?

    Fuck knows. Various derpy reasons are given. She can’t win, no matter what she does.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    I could never understand some people's obsession with the Royal family in this country.

    It's truly baffling.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    You know they've been just waiting to use that headline since they got married.
    How come Kate Middleton didn't/doesn't get the same treatment as Meghan markle seemed to get ?
    English and not American, white and not mixed race, not a divorcee, a "commoner" but still from a posh family, very quiet and lacking controversy/opinion (although I don't know of anything particularly opinionated about Meghan - the cheek to be a former career woman I suppose... or is it gold digger?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭Be right back


    I think Meghan is out to make a statement.
    She came in all guns blazing trying to make her mark and do things differently and be seen to be trying to modernise the monarchy.
    I feel she really took inspiration from the likes of #Metoo and #Timesup and Greta Thurnburg to try and push this as a time for change and that she would be instrumental in that change.
    I personally think the monarchy is very stuffy and a serious cost to the UK state but at the same time I see her as acting like the smart ass kid in the class who thinks they know more than the teacher.
    If they're stepping aside from the monarchy, they need to give up their titles and their Windsor Castle home plus pay for their own security detail going forward.

    I think she thought she could modernise it and when she couldn't, decided to cut their losses and leave. Apparently they have surprised the monarchy big time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,496 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    matchthis wrote: »
    Seems to be a sound lad

    Harry totally smitten with Meghan, will do anything for her, good on them both quitting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭screamer


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Harry totally smitten with Meghan, will do anything for her, good on them both quitting

    Many an idiot will do anything for their ball and chain, and some of them are very divisive and trifling. Sad for their families in these instances, but sometimes it’s a case of make your own bed.... lie in it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,103 ✭✭✭amacca


    I had to raise an eyebrow at the becoming "financially independent" line

    As if they wouldn't be without having to lift a finger even after severing all ties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Headline on tomorrow's Sun: MEGXIT.

    Tomorrow's UK papers are also reporting they didn't even notify the Queen in advance and that Charles and William are said to be 'furious'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,408 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    amacca wrote: »
    I had to raise an eyebrow at the becoming "financially independent" line

    As if they wouldn't be without having to lift a finger even after severing all ties.

    Does this mean they won't have anyone to put their pyjamas on for them now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    screamer wrote: »
    Many an idiot will do anything for their ball and chain, and some of them are very divisive and trifling. Sad for their families in these instances, but sometimes it’s a case of make your own bed.... lie in it

    It reminds me a bit of Edward and Wallis Simpson (though quite a few historians reckon Edward was a complete waster and no loss at all to the monarchy).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,496 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Headline on tomorrow's Sun: MEGXIT.

    Sounds like an Asylum film


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    He's like a ventriloquist's doll, he'll do what she says. Can't see that marriage lasting though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Tomorrow's UK papers are also reporting they didn't even notify the Queen in advance and that Charles and William are said to be 'furious'.

    Ah that won't help things. I mean she's not the first American to be involved with the firm or the establishment over there. I mean fair enough the last American who married into the royal family didn't work that well but still. And wasn't Churchills mother American ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    He's like a ventriloquist's doll, he'll do what she says. Can't see that marriage lasting though.

    I'd say that's why the child didn't get a title of any kind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,408 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    He's like a ventriloquist's doll, he'll do what she says. Can't see that marriage lasting though.

    At least he speaks. Unlike the mannequin that is the future queen.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Strazdas wrote: »
    It reminds me a bit of Edward and Wallis Simpson (though quite a few historians reckon Edward was a complete waster and no loss at all to the monarchy).
    He's like a ventriloquist's doll, he'll do what she says. Can't see that marriage lasting though.

    And Simpson ultimately regretted the whole thing as she ended up with just a boring old man- the whole royalty thing was gone.

    Pleasing Meagan today will likely lead to a lifetime of mediocrity for both of them- they will both regret it in different ways I think as the dynamic of their relation to date is wrapped up in the mystique of royalty- take that away and the cracks will quickly appear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    At least he speaks. Unlike the mannequin that is the future queen.
    Which one of them ? There's two future queens ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    PressRun wrote: »
    Supposedly Prince Charles has big plans to scale the whole thing back when he takes over. Lots of peripheral family members are going to have titles and duties taken away from them apart from those in immediate line to take the throne. The statement from the royal family seems shocked/pissed off, but maybe in the grand scheme of things, they weren't going to have much to do anyway once Charles gets the top job.
    The issue with it seems to be that they want to keep their titles and make money off them? That's hardly allowed, is it?

    Apparently they weren't supposed to be part of the scaling back, that was going to be more peripheral royals. Harry was always supposed to be a part of the core monarchy alongside William. That was the plan anyway but that's been scuppered now.

    I dont particularly care for the royal family, but from a celeb gossip/scandal point of view this is all very interesting, even more so that will be in the history books eventually


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,408 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Which one of them ? There's two future queens ?

    William's wooden doll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    And Simpson ultimately regretted the whole thing as she ended up with just a boring old man- the whole royalty thing was gone.

    Pleasing Meagan today will likely lead to a lifetime of mediocrity for both of them- they will both regret it in different ways I think as the dynamic of their relation to date is wrapped up in the mystique of royalty- take that away and the cracks will quickly appear.

    It wasn't as if the duke and duchess of Windsor were on the scrapheap after the abdication and she did stay with the fomer Edward VIII all his life so there must have been something there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    An actual progressive Royal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Wow. Prince Andrew has been cancelled, now we have Mexit. I wonder if interest will wane, my English friends are all pro royal though, they love them.


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