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2017 Nvidia Shield

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    SachaJ wrote: »
    Not much of a discount at £20 (Was £189.99, now £169.99) but it's the first time I've seen the new model reduced.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/NVIDIA-SHIELD-Media-Streaming-Device/dp/B01NBJ6KZY/

    I'm on the lookout for a 3rd one but think I'll hang on and see what happens on Amazon Prime Day this week.

    Absolutely fantastic piece of equipment these are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭cjlawlor


    Mr.S wrote: »
    What can these do differently then your standard Apple TV / cheaper android box? I get they are high spec but even cheap 4k android boxes perform well.

    Well, you get the full 4K capable versions of Netflix and Youtube not available on 95% of other android boxes. If gaming is important to you, you get a decent controller. Tomb Raider, Half Life 2, Portal etc. are exclusive to nvidia shield and it is very good at emulation. There is also the GeForce now subscription service which works great but is a bit expensive in my opinion and not really necessary if you already have a gaming PC. One thing to bear in mind is is the nvidia shield is running Android TV which differs from regular android. You can sideload most apps but they may not work too well if they are not optimised for a TV screen as well as a touchscreen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    cjlawlor wrote: »
    Well, you get the full 4K capable versions of Netflix and Youtube not available on 95% of other android boxes. If gaming is important to you, you get a decent controller. Tomb Raider, Half Life 2, Portal etc. are exclusive to nvidia shield and it is very good at emulation. There is also the GeForce now subscription service which works great but is a bit expensive in my opinion and not really necessary if you already have a gaming PC. One thing to bear in mind is is the nvidia shield is running Android TV which differs from regular android. You can sideload most apps but they may not work too well if they are not optimised for a TV screen as well as a touchscreen.

    So if you don't game is the Mi Box a better option at around 1/3 of the price? It is also running Android TV, does 4K etc and the reviews on youtube look really positive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    So if you don't game is the Mi Box a better option at around 1/3 of the price? It is also running Android TV, does 4K etc and the reviews on youtube look really positive.

    Mi is a good alternative for non-gamers as long as you don't plan on using Plex. It's broken on the Mi.
    http://forums.plex.tv/discussion/244739/xiaomi-mi-box-us-version-android-tv-6-0-plex-client-with-audio-hdmi-passthrough-broken/p1

    Bought the new shield back in January and it's worth every penny. Small and compact but very powerful. None of those Chinese ones with tablet android can compare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,348 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Fantastic price for a great piece of kit. Even if you were to solely use it as a gaming emulation box, it'd be worth the money. There, but with the media output, game streaming and 4K support, it's essential.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    cjlawlor wrote: »
    Well, you get the full 4K capable versions of Netflix and Youtube not available on 95% of other android boxes. If gaming is important to you, you get a decent controller. Tomb Raider, Half Life 2, Portal etc. are exclusive to nvidia shield and it is very good at emulation. There is also the GeForce now subscription service which works great but is a bit expensive in my opinion and not really necessary if you already have a gaming PC. One thing to bear in mind is is the nvidia shield is running Android TV which differs from regular android. You can sideload most apps but they may not work too well if they are not optimised for a TV screen as well as a touchscreen.

    Add to that chromecast is built in, and also the voice searches etc.

    None of the previous boxes I've owned come within an asses roar of the shield.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Rick Shaw wrote: »
    Add to that chromecast is built in, and also the voice searches etc.

    None of the previous boxes I've owned come within an asses roar of the shield.

    Mi Box also has both of those features.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,452 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Have the 2016 model which is basically same spec and its a great piece of kit.
    I love the fact that I can plug in my headphones into the controller etc and listen to movies as long as I want without waking everyone else.
    Plex runs fantastic on it and there's also a server version for the shield also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,932 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Blazer wrote: »
    Have the 2016 model which is basically same spec and its a great piece of kit.
    I love the fact that I can plug in my headphones into the controller etc and listen to movies as long as I want without waking everyone else.
    Plex runs fantastic on it and there's also a server version for the shield also.

    i have 3 of the previous model and I think they are an even better bit of gear than the 2017 version.
    The older version has the same processor/ram with the added bonus of an IR receiver making a 1 remote set up a breeze.
    The newer model dropped the IR receiver and has an updated controller design.
    Still a fantastic piece of kit however and i use mine constantly(all 3)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭SachaJ


    I have two and getting a third - basically I'll have one on each TV in the house.

    In our case we rarely game although the young lad (5) enjoys a few racing games and they've saved me buying an xbox for him. In our case it's purely for TV viewing/streaming. Benefits to me:
    • Love the UI. I can set up a really simple user interface with minimal clutter. Mine all boot into the restricted profile with only the allowed apps visible. Kids have limited access to content and that does myself and the wife.
    • 4K with HDR.
    • Plex is fantastic. I'm a complete convert from Kodi. Plex (client in my case) gets special attention on the Nvidia Shield and they work put a lot of effort into new features
    • High resolution games on their highest settings
    • Support. Nvidia are still supporting the 2015 model with new updates. I doubt most other Android boxes are still getting specific updates

    I have an Amazon Fire 4K and much much prefer the Shield. Does everything I need. I even replaced a Dune Solo 4K media player and using a Shield into the projector (130" screen) and it's brilliant.

    I'm even thinking now of getting a digital tuner (sat or saorview) and using the Shield/Plex to view live TV. No idea would I actually use it permanently for TV but I'm interested to see what it's like.

    I have both the 2015 and 2017 models. I actually prefer the new model. It's more compact and the controller is streets ahead of the older one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Bought one last week, needed a second so pulled the trigger.

    These boxes are superb, no lag with movies and no messing about. Might be overkill for Kodi etc., but with Chromecast built in, and 4K support; you won't need to upgrade the box for a few years.

    It's a quality box, the remote is actually metal. Pricey even with the discount, but worth it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    As cjlawlor said remember this is Android TV, not android for your phone or tablet.

    It's play store is very bare so you have to sideload most stuff with things like 3 player and I THINK RTE player apps not working as they are incompatible

    Just bare it in mind. I sent mine back as Im just not bothered with having to do small work around anymore and got a grand little €50 yoke that's fulfilled by Amazon and can't fault it


  • Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭studdlymurphy


    SachaJ wrote:
    Plex is fantastic. I'm a complete convert from Kodi. Plex (client in my case) gets special attention on the Nvidia Shield.


    Does plex play all the same types of movies as kodi? New releases etc? I use kodi but find it cumbersome at times. It's an older version also I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭SachaJ


    Does plex play all the same types of movies as kodi? New releases etc? I use kodi but find it cumbersome at times. It's an older version also I think.

    Plex doesn't have any pirate streams that I'm aware of and its the better for it! (BTW no discussing of pirate streams on the boards.....)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭jakdublin


    Does plex play all the same types of movies as kodi? New releases etc? I use kodi but find it cumbersome at times. It's an older version also I think.

    Plex is mainly for organising and streaming your own media content and presenting in a way similar to Netflix. It plays virtually all formats and can be configured to deliver content remotely. It's not really an alternative to Kodi.


  • Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭studdlymurphy


    jakdublin wrote:
    Plex is mainly for organising and streaming your own media content and presenting in a way similar to Netflix. It plays virtually all formats and can be configured to deliver content remotely. It's not really an alternative to Kodi.


    So I would have a hard drive connected to the box via usb or Ethernet and it would present all the movies sort of like a Netflix layout? That sounds nice alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭SachaJ


    So I would have a hard drive connected to the box via usb or Ethernet and it would present all the movies sort of like a Netflix layout? That sounds nice alright.

    Yes you can. Or in my case I have a PC running 24/7 that acts as my Plex server and each Shield acts as a client. The PC has around 12TB of media stored and shared among the devices.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭jakdublin


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    I found it confusing at the start too but it's worth sticking with it. I've had my setup three or fours years now and bought a lifetime membership this year. I have access to all my movies, tv shows and music anywhere I go and share it with family members who use the free version. Think the Nivida would be overkill for Plex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    jakdublin wrote: »
    Think the Nivida would be overkill for Plex.

    If you are serious about your home cinema then the Sheild is the box to go for. I've tried half a dozen different boxes for plex over the years including Mac Minis, smart TVs, Apple TV 4th gen. The Sheild has the best codec support of them all.

    It can decode all the current HD audio streams (Atmos, DTS-HD etc.) and all the current video codecs (x265) without having to transcode on the server. It will ouput 4K HDR 60 fps (it looks sensational!), which is as good as it gets at the moment. The box is small and the UI is fast. For the money, nothing else comes close. Add to that the ability to stream games rendered on my gaming rig in 4K and it's an amazing piece of kit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Oat23 wrote: »
    Mi is a good alternative for non-gamers as long as you don't plan on using Plex. It's broken on the Mi.
    http://forums.plex.tv/discussion/244739/xiaomi-mi-box-us-version-android-tv-6-0-plex-client-with-audio-hdmi-passthrough-broken/p1

    Bought the new shield back in January and it's worth every penny. Small and compact but very powerful. None of those Chinese ones with tablet android can compare.

    It must be noted that the Mi lacks Ethernet. You really should be using Ethernet for media especially 4k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    It must be noted that the Mi lacks Ethernet. You really should be using Ethernet for media especially 4k

    4K is only around 20-25 mb/s. A decent wifi connection (802.11n or better) won't have an issue. A good 802.11g signal shoudl be able to manage too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭jakdublin


    stimpson wrote: »
    If you are serious about your home cinema then the Sheild is the box to go for. I've tried half a dozen different boxes for plex over the years including Mac Minis, smart TVs, Apple TV 4th gen. The Sheild has the best codec support of them all.

    That's interesting. I always felt the Nividia was really a box for serious gamers. Must take a look next time I'm looking for an upgrade, although I don't have any issues with Plex clients on my devices (Firestick, Apple TV 4, iPhone) but I don't have a 4k TV atm.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Just fyi if streaming your gaming PC to your TV is the main draw, a cheaper alternative is the Amazon Fire TV utilising the Moonlight Game Streaming app, like the Shield it only works with Nvidia GPUs as it uses Shield technology but will give you 4k streaming unlike a Steam Link for example (provided your pc can handle it).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    stimpson wrote: »
    4K is only around 20-25 mb/s. A decent wifi connection (802.11n or better) won't have an issue. A good 802.11g signal shoudl be able to manage too.

    As long as you've no other devices using WiFi as wireless is a shared resource. Your wireless router radio can only send (or receive) packets to one device at a time. I like to cable everything static to keep WiFi for devices that need mobility. No way I'd want something using that much bandwidth for long periods of time. It's a really stupid omission in this day and age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    jakdublin wrote: »
    That's interesting. I always felt the Nividia was really a box for serious gamers. Must take a look next time I'm looking for an upgrade, although I don't have any issues with Plex clients on my devices (Firestick, Apple TV 4, iPhone) but I don't have a 4k TV atm.

    The Shield can be setup as a Plex server using it's GPU to transcode. No other box can do this


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    As long as you've no other devices using WiFi as wireless is a shared resource. Your wireless router radio can only send (or receive) packets to one device at a time. I like to cable everything static to keep WiFi for devices that need mobility. No way I'd want something using that much bandwidth for long periods of time. It's a really stupid omission in this day and age.

    I am using SIRO so bandwidth isn't much of an issue.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    I am using SIRO so bandwidth isn't much of an issue.

    I'm referring to wireless bandwidth and the Mi lacking Ethernet. Having one device demanding continuous streams of 30mbit can really affect the wireless performance for other wireless users


  • Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭studdlymurphy


    Can someone point me to where I would find out how to set up a plex server using a pc with harddrive and Nvidia shield please. An idiot's guide preferably


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    I'm referring to wireless bandwidth and the Mi lacking Ethernet. Having one device demanding continuous streams of 30mbit can really affect the wireless performance for other wireless users

    Even if the wireless connection is much much faster than the above speed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Can someone point me to where I would find out how to set up a plex server using a pc with harddrive and Nvidia shield please. An idiot's guide preferably

    The Shield can be both server and client
    https://shield.nvidia.com/blog/how-to-setup-plex-media-server


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Even if the wireless connection is much much faster than the above speed?

    Wireless is shared, all your devices share that speed. Your router radio will only send packets to one device at a time, in one direction at a time (send or receive, not both at same time) so having one device demanding high bandwidth can really affect the performance to other devices.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,984 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Even if the wireless connection is much much faster than the above speed?

    Yes, wireless sucks, better to avoid it if at all possible.


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    If you can't go wired try using the 5ghz band for the shield and put everything else on the 2.4GHZ band if your router supports it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Wireless is shared, all your devices share that speed. Your router radio will only send packets to one device at a time, in one direction at a time (send or receive, not both at same time) so having one device demanding high bandwidth can really affect the performance to other devices.

    Yeah but surely if the speed is way over the needs of streaming that media it won't cause any difference to other users unless of course they are doing something hugely intensive like streaming the same kind of media. We could sometimes have 3/4 people watching stuff online at the same time in the house with no noticeable difference in the media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Yeah but surely if the speed is way over the needs of streaming that media it won't cause any difference to other users unless of course they are doing something hugely intensive like streaming the same kind of media. We could sometimes have 3/4 people watching stuff online at the same time in the house with no noticeable difference in the media.

    It depends on many factors, number of devices, signal, interference from other wireless etc. It really doesn't take many connections to slow a wireless network, especially if you add one with a weak signal. It's better to try avoid using wireless for media by cabling everything static keeping wireless for mobility

    The Shield has Ethernet though so not an issue, you should try use it if you can


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    It depends on many factors, number of devices, signal, interference from other wireless etc. It really doesn't take many connections to slow a wireless network, especially if you add one with a weak signal. It's better to try avoid using wireless for media by cabling everything static keeping wireless for mobility

    The Shield has Ethernet though so not an issue, you should try use it if you can

    I am currently tossing a coin between this and the Mi Box. I just can't seem to justify paying 3x the price for this when I have zero interest in gaming. If I really find that the wireless connection isn't working out I can always buy an Ethernet adaptor for a a few extra quid. If I was going to pay this kind of money I would just buy a mini PC with a full OS like Win 10 on it. I guess my mind is made up after this post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Akula


    I have the MiBox. No HDR though on Netflix.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    I am currently tossing a coin between this and the Mi Box. I just can't seem to justify paying 3x the price for this when I have zero interest in gaming. If I really find that the wireless connection isn't working out I can always buy an Ethernet adaptor for a a few extra quid. If I was going to pay this kind of money I would just buy a mini PC with a full OS like Win 10 on it. I guess my mind is made up after this post.

    This is the adapter for the Mi if you need it

    TeckNet 3 Port USB3.0 Hub 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN Wired Network Adapter USB 3.0 to RJ45 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00JTSYBUY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-v3yzbGTKD931


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    Can someone with a Shield give it a test on transcoding & burning in subtitles from psg or idx/sub? I had heard somewhere that it can only do hardware transcoding if its NOT burning in the subtitles so if you want them burnt in it needs to be software transcoding and I've not heard anyone talk about how well it can handle that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    JohnK wrote: »
    Can someone with a Shield give it a test on transcoding & burning in subtitles from psg or idx/sub? I had heard somewhere that it can only do hardware transcoding if its NOT burning in the subtitles so if you want them burnt in it needs to be software transcoding and I've not heard anyone talk about how well it can handle that.

    I've used subs without issue. I do have a seperate server though if you're planning on using ht eSheild as a server. I doubt it will be a problem TBH - it's a bit of a beast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Just get a decent emulation app. I have one, and it has every game for every system as diverse as the old Atari to NeoGeo, PCEngine, NES, SNES, N64, Sega etc, right up to PlayStation.

    Hard to fault it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Not sure if the app can be mentioned on here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    stimpson wrote: »
    I've used subs without issue. I do have a seperate server though if you're planning on using ht eSheild as a server. I doubt it will be a problem TBH - it's a bit of a beast.

    Yeah I'd be looking at it mainly as a server. Currently just have a synology which is grand for direct streams but unless the subtitles are srt it falls over; same with some multi channel audio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    JohnK wrote: »
    Yeah I'd be looking at it mainly as a server. Currently just have a synology which is grand for direct streams but unless the subtitles are srt it falls over; same with some multi channel audio.

    I wouldn't be concerned about it. You could always hook up the synology with USB and see how it does. Any problem then return to Amazon. I'd be amazed if it doesn't work perfectly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,452 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    stimpson wrote: »
    I wouldn't be concerned about it. You could always hook up the synology with USB and see how it does. Any problem then return to Amazon. I'd be amazed if it doesn't work perfectly.

    I run the shield and its linked to my synology nas by ethernet via my router.
    It has no problem transcoding and apparently it can do 4 x 1080p streams simultaneously.


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