Rebel burger. No, no, no!

Notdeco · 13-11-2019 1:34am #1

So burger King have spread the v virus to Ireland.
And I'm not happy...

If I want a burger, I want it to be real meat. If I want a salad I want it to be a salad.
Ah the poor vegans want it all.
Well ye can fook off and eat seeds and help the planet and leave the tasty food to us that enjoy flavour.

Had to be said.
I can't be the only one to think this, maybe I am...

punisher5112 · 13-11-2019 1:35am

Trump

endacl · 13-11-2019 1:36am

Are Burger King doing away with all their meat products?

No?

Grand. Panic averted. Carry on.

Notdeco · 13-11-2019 1:38am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Trump

Witty reply? Yea trump is the cause of all vegans, thanks for the info.

BuboBubo · 13-11-2019 1:41am

It's just giving people a choice. Gone are the days of the soggy mashed spud/pea/wallpaper paste combo veggie burger which was ubiquitous in chippers of yore.

I'll be sticking to the beef ones personally, choice is a great thing.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 13-11-2019 1:45am

All this vegan bullshjt sickens me, all these restaurants pandering to <snip> who chose this diet type yet coeliacs who have no option on what they eat are barely a consideration in most restuartants and not at all in fast food joints. McD's and Burger King offer nothing for them except the fries in McD's. Pathetic.

con___manx1 · 13-11-2019 1:49am

Why do you care what other people eat?
Beef farming is one of the worst polluters in this country. Just think of all those cow farts floating into the atmosphere next time you go to burger King and eat a few cows mushed together on a bun

Notdeco · 13-11-2019 1:50am

BuboBubo wrote: »

It's just giving people a choice. Gone are the days of the soggy mashed spud/pea/wallpaper paste combo veggie burger which was ubiquitous in chippers of yore.

I'll be sticking to the beef ones personally, choice is a great thing.

Very true, and tbh. I like to have some meat with my iceberg lettuce tomato and onion. Instead of iceberg lettuce tomato onions and some kind of soy beans plus iceberg lettuce tomato and onions minced(add some spices for effect) for my burger.
Cos its not a burger by definition.
Vegan patty, yes. But not a burger

Notdeco · 13-11-2019 1:51am

con___manx1 wrote: »

Why do you care what other people eat?
Beef farming is one of the worst polluters in this country. Just think of all those cow farts floating into the atmosphere next time you go to burger King and eat a few cows mushed together on a bun

Ffs, I'm hungry now:)

Potential-Monke · 13-11-2019 2:24am

As said, pandering to the minority. But that's ok, it's giving me ammo to go into vegan/vegetarian only restaurants and demand meat. Seems to be the way it's done.

Relax, I'm not actually going to do that, I just won't go there

Raconteuse · 13-11-2019 2:35am

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

All this vegan bullshjt sickens me

But why? I cannot understand why it angers people. They don't have to eat it (I'm not vegan or vegetarian).

13-11-2019 2:46am

Notdeco wrote: »

So burger King have spread the v virus to Ireland.
And I'm not happy...

If I want a burger, I want it to be real meat. If I want a salad I want it to be a salad.
Ah the poor vegans want it all.
Well ye can fook off and eat seeds and help the planet and leave the tasty food to us that enjoy flavour.

Had to be said.
I can't be the only one to think this, maybe I am...

Vegan burgers, like abortions. Only have one if you want one. Neither are compulsory..

Raconteuse · 13-11-2019 3:29am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

As said, pandering to the minority

Isn't it just another option on the menu though? It's not gonna affect non vegans.

Potential-Monke · 13-11-2019 3:53am

Raconteuse wrote: »

Isn't it just another option on the menu though? It's not gonna affect non vegans.

It is completely and utterly avoidable, I just think that some companies are giving in to the pressure from vegan groups in ensuring there is an option for them at EVERY restaurant.

I don't understand vegans simply because meat is delicious and I couldn't imagine my life without it, but now all these places which are traditionally meat eateries are having to come up with fake meat products to appease the minority. Even though I don't eat vegan, I'm pretty sure Burgerking will be pretty low on the list of where vegans eat, if it's on it at all.

I'm also vehemently against non-meat products being named after meat, and it seems the EU are on my side, changing legislation that basically bans non-meat products from being called burger, sausage, bacon, fillet, and even so far as other terms, such as milk, should not be used to describe something that is not originally what that word means:

http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/dyn/15/amendements/0627/CION-ECO/CE2044

Can I similarly go into a vegan/vegetarian restaurant and demand meat, or that they at least provide 1 meat product for us non-vegans/vegetarians? If not, why not?

It's principle. That's all. I couldn't care less that vegans don't eat meat, as long as they're not preaching to me. Maybe this was an internal decision from Burgerking without the pressure (doubtful, but we'll never know). I just don't agree that everywhere that sells food should provide for vegans/vegetarians. That's all. Personal preference if you will.

Edit: And just found out that it's not actual vegan due to mayo being used in it.

super_furry · 13-11-2019 3:55am

You can always not eat it. That's still an option.

tuxy · 13-11-2019 4:02am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

It is completely and utterly avoidable, I just think that some companies are giving in to the pressure from vegan groups in ensuring there is an option for them at EVERY restaurant.

.

It's also possible that they see the market for such things increasing and the fast food companies don't want to be left behind. Plenty of vegans want fast food two.
Now I think it's probably not very likely that this vegan product will be tasty but I can see a marketing company believing that they could make it profitable.

Raconteuse · 13-11-2019 4:03am

Still don't really understand the objection.

Vegan/vegetarian restaurants are in the minority so why would someone have a reason to go into one and insist on at least one meat dish?

Potential-Monke · 13-11-2019 4:08am

Because it's double standards, regardless of the amount of current vegan only restaurants. My brother is a chef, and I was tempted to open a cafe/restaurant. He basically told me that even though he does vegan stuff, it doesn't really sell, but if it's not on the menu it's like hanging the business. From his perspective, people want these on the menu but very few actually order them.

Look, it's just my opinion. That burger is not even vegan, so why bother? And I'm not alone on this, just people are now afraid to speak out against vegans because they're automatically seen as a demon. I have absolutely no issue with them, I just don't like seeing it shoehorned into everything, while vegan only places don't have to do meat products. It's plainly double standards. That's all.

Better Than Christ · 13-11-2019 4:12am

Notdeco wrote: »

So burger King have spread the v virus to Ireland.
And I'm not happy...

If I want a burger, I want it to be real meat. If I want a salad I want it to be a salad.
Ah the poor vegans want it all.
Well ye can fook off and eat seeds and help the planet and leave the tasty food to us that enjoy flavour.

Had to be said.
I can't be the only one to think this, maybe I am...

The thick Facebook post virus has spread to Boards.

"Had to be said" - oh yes, definitely. Imagine if it hadn't been said.

Raconteuse · 13-11-2019 4:16am

Definitely don't think people are afraid to criticise vegans! (The opposite imo - people seem to be disproportionately vocal against them).

I couldn't go vegan or vegetarian either btw - so I don't. That's all people need to be concerned about. If you're saying vegans/vegetarians are the minority on the one hand, well then that's my point about the minority restaurants not being guilty of double standards for not selling meat.

But if it has an effect on a restaurant's bottom line, fair enough.

Mezzotint · 13-11-2019 4:31am

If you don't want the burger don't eat it and stop whining about what someone else isn't eating.

Clearly Burger King thinks there's a market for this, otherwise they wouldn't be selling it.

s7ryf3925pivug · 13-11-2019 4:51am

They have sold the vegetarian beanburger for ages; at least seven years.

The new product name is commercializing the extinction rebellion movement. Should be called Krusty Burger.

Realt Dearg Sec · 13-11-2019 5:07am

On a day when someone started a thread saying we'd be better off if the Nazis ran Ireland, somehow this still managed to be the worst thread of the day.

Quantum Erasure · 13-11-2019 5:44am

for a midnight burger she cried more, more, more
With a rebel yell I cried No, No, No...
No, no, no!

Outlaw Pete · 13-11-2019 6:45am

I'm beginning to think you are Deco.

13-11-2019 7:13am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQQcg6fAkOs

RobbingBandit · 13-11-2019 7:19am

Be a rebel join the social outcry eat our new burger*

* It's not a burger but it is prepared in oils which will have meat products in them but you don't care or understand all you wanna do is the in thing, you hipster aholes

Graces7 · 13-11-2019 7:19am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

As said, providing for a minority. But that's ok, it's giving me ammo to go into vegan/vegetarian only restaurants and demand meat. Seems to be the way it's done.

Relax, I'm not actually going to do that, I just won't go there

fyp.. ( never done that before!)

bolded; nope, unless the eatery claims to be non vegetarian they can serve what they like

Graces7 · 13-11-2019 7:24am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Because it's double standards, regardless of the amount of current vegan only restaurants. My brother is a chef, and I was tempted to open a cafe/restaurant. He basically told me that even though he does vegan stuff, it doesn't really sell, but if it's not on the menu it's like hanging the business. From his perspective, people want these on the menu but very few actually order them.

Look, it's just my opinion. That burger is not even vegan, so why bother? And I'm not alone on this, just people are now afraid to speak out against vegans because they're automatically seen as a demon. I have absolutely no issue with them, I just don't like seeing it shoehorned into everything, while vegan only places don't have to do meat products. It's plainly double standards. That's all.

Nope; they choose to include.

airy fairy · 13-11-2019 7:25am

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

All this vegan bullshjt sickens me, all these restaurants pandering to **** who chose this diet type yet coeliacs who have no option on what they eat are barely a consideration in most restuartants and not at all in fast food joints. McD's and Burger King offer nothing for them except the fries in McD's. Pathetic.

I agree.
I think the reason being is prep stations, cookers etc being contaminated... obviously coeliacs aren't worth the hassle or investment.
But if a vegan was committed to the cause, surely they would object to such cross contamination processes also, funny that, I think they're happy to eat their food that was prepared alongside meat products.

MarkR · 13-11-2019 7:28am

I'm confused. Have vegetarians actually been demanding vegetarian meals in a restaurant, and this is why you don't want this burger to be sold?

Or did you just want a bit of a winge?

Potential-Monke · 13-11-2019 7:36am

Isn't that the way boards work? Someone gives an opinion, if it doesn't fit with the rest of the opinions it's a whinge, and then the debate of the whinge ensues?

Unearthly · 13-11-2019 7:37am

Jesus stop digging potential monke. Posting complete and utter nonsense

Potential-Monke · 13-11-2019 7:38am

Unearthly wrote: »

Jesus stop digging potential monke. Posting complete and utter nonsense

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That is complete and utter nonsense.

Thanks for helping prove my point though!

FTA69 · 13-11-2019 8:31am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Because it's double standards, regardless of the amount of current vegan only restaurants. My brother is a chef, and I was tempted to open a cafe/restaurant. He basically told me that even though he does vegan stuff, it doesn't really sell, but if it's not on the menu it's like hanging the business. From his perspective, people want these on the menu but very few actually order them.

Look, it's just my opinion. That burger is not even vegan, so why bother? And I'm not alone on this, just people are now afraid to speak out against vegans because they're automatically seen as a demon. I have absolutely no issue with them, I just don't like seeing it shoehorned into everything, while vegan only places don't have to do meat products. It's plainly double standards. That's all.

You’ve got no reason to be “speaking out” against people because they decide not to eat a certain foodstuff. You’re coming across as a cranky and angry fanatic with an axe to grind.

You might think not eating meat is stupid and that’s your right. But at the end of the day, factory farming of animals is usually cruel, meat production is environmentally bad and global meat consumption is unsustainable.

13-11-2019 8:36am

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

All this vegan bullshjt sickens me, all these restaurants pandering to **** who chose this diet type yet coeliacs who have no option on what they eat are barely a consideration in most restuartants and not at all in fast food joints. McD's and Burger King offer nothing for them except the fries in McD's. Pathetic.

Quarter pounder in MCD with no bun is gf, they give it to u with a little knife and fork
Mcd on the continent have gf buns as well though. Ate a couple burgers on hols there recently. Glorious

taytobreath · 13-11-2019 8:42am

anyone try these vegan burgers yet, if they tasted as good as their regular burgers i could easily replace

Bob Harris · 13-11-2019 8:50am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I don't understand vegans simply because meat is delicious and I couldn't imagine my life without it, but now all these places which are traditionally meat eateries are having to come up with fake meat products to appease the minority. Even though I don't eat vegan, I'm pretty sure Burgerking will be pretty low on the list of where vegans eat, if it's on it at all.

Edit: And just found out that it's not actual vegan due to mayo being used in it.

You do. There are plenty of things you eat every day that are vegan. Most breads, cereals, fruit, veg, nuts. You probably have some or all of these everyday. it's not exclusively vegan as you'll eat meat and dairy as well but you do eat vegan. You just don't follow an exclusively vegan diet.

MJohnston · 13-11-2019 8:53am

Pure meat-eater speaking here: this thread is a fùcking catastrophe in a subforum packed with prime examples of the class.

What a bunch of moaning, entitled snowflakes you After Hours idiots are, offended by every little thing. My three year old son throws fewer tantrums than the dribbling cretins of AH.

Grow the fück up. You all snivel and whine about ‘millennials’ being the soft ones, the easily offended ones, yet every little problem has you all running here for comfort from your little circle jerk of other snowflakes. What a pathetic forum this is.

FTA69 · 13-11-2019 8:58am

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

All this vegan bullshjt sickens me, all these restaurants pandering to **** who chose this diet type yet coeliacs who have no option on what they eat are barely a consideration in most restuartants and not at all in fast food joints. McD's and Burger King offer nothing for them except the fries in McD's. Pathetic.

1) it’s easy to eat out if you’re a coeliac, just don’t eat bread or stuff with wheat in it.

2) most “coeliacs” aren’t even coeliacs.

Treppen · 13-11-2019 9:01am

MJohnston wrote: »

Pure meat-eater speaking here: this thread is a fùcking catastrophe in a subforum packed with prime examples of the class.

What a bunch of moaning, entitled snowflakes you After Hours idiots are, offended by every little thing. My three year old son throws fewer tantrums than the dribbling cretins of AH.

Grow the fück up. You all snivel and whine about ‘millennials’ being the soft ones, the easily offended ones, yet every little problem has you all running here for comfort from your little circle jerk of other snowflakes. What a pathetic forum this is.

10 years later...
Son: "Im switching to vegan Daddy."
MJohnston: reads out thread post from 2019
Son: why is Daddy so angry?

anewme · 13-11-2019 9:02am

MJohnston wrote: »

Pure meat-eater speaking here: this thread is a fùcking catastrophe in a subforum packed with prime examples of the class.

What a bunch of moaning, entitled snowflakes you After Hours idiots are, offended by every little thing. My three year old son throws fewer tantrums than the dribbling cretins of AH.

Grow the fück up. You all snivel and whine about ‘millennials’ being the soft ones, the easily offended ones, yet every little problem has you all running here for comfort from your little circle jerk of other snowflakes. What a pathetic forum this is.

This links strongly to the other thread about positivity vs. negativity. This thread is a big black pool of negativity. And entitlement. It's so bad, it's actually hilarious.

You'd wonder how some of these people survive in the real world.

I don't eat meat. So now, if I end up in BK for lunch (not that often), I have a choice.

13-11-2019 9:04am

FTA69 wrote: »

1) it’s easy to eat out if you’re a coeliac, just don’t eat bread or stuff with wheat in it.

2) most “coeliacs” aren’t even coeliacs.

Ah don't i don't wana get poisoned again bc someone thought i was making it up

Tired Gardener · 13-11-2019 9:05am

Notdeco wrote: »

So burger King have spread the v virus to Ireland.
And I'm not happy...

If I want a burger, I want it to be real meat. If I want a salad I want it to be a salad.
Ah the poor vegans want it all.
Well ye can fook off and eat seeds and help the planet and leave the tasty food to us that enjoy flavour.

Had to be said.
I can't be the only one to think this, maybe I am...

Imagine being this pathetic, getting outraged over a fast food item... OP, you should take up something relaxing, may be go for a walk, or do some painting, because it sounds like you need to de-stress.

anewme · 13-11-2019 9:07am

Tired Gardener wrote: »

Imagine being this pathetic, getting outraged over a fast food item... OP, you should take up something relaxing, may be go for a walk, or do some painting, because it sounds like you need to de-stress.

And all the I want, I want, I WANT....
Someone needs to give that man a Snickers.
There will probably be a Vegan Snickers along soon.

cj maxx · 13-11-2019 9:09am

Ah ffs. If you want meat , get meat. The fact that there is a vegetarian option on the menu shouldn't annoy you !
People go on about snow flakes who choose a vegetarian option , grow the fcuk up. !

Bob Harris · 13-11-2019 9:16am

cjmc wrote: »

Ah ffs. If you want meat , get meat. The fact that there is a vegetarian option on the menu shouldn't annoy you !
People go on about snow flakes who choose a vegetarian option , grow the fcuk up. !

There are some people here that sound like they would take a swing at a barman for selling non-alcoholic beer.

13-11-2019 9:25am

I had a good laugh down the local chipper there once day recently when someone ordered a veggie burger and they threw it into the fryer with chicken nuggets and a chicken burger to cook

.

FTA69 · 13-11-2019 9:33am

bluewolf wrote: »

Ah don't i don't wana get poisoned again bc someone thought i was making it up

Surely as a genuine coeliac it winds you up when people declare they have gluten intolerance when they’ve nothing of the sort?

dubrov · 13-11-2019 9:34am

Tobias Swift Supervisor wrote:

I had a good laugh down the local chipper there once day recently when someone ordered a veggie burger and they threw it into the fryer with chicken nuggets and a chicken burger to cook .

Most vegetarians are against animal cruelty. They are not allergic to meat.

The joke is on you though if that's the standards your local chippy employs

sbsquarepants · 13-11-2019 9:37am

FTA69 wrote: »

1) it’s easy to eat out if you’re a coeliac, just don’t eat bread or stuff with wheat in it.

2) most “coeliacs” aren’t even coeliacs.

It's not as easy as avoid bread. My daughter is a coeliac, it's quite hard to find anywhere to eat out. Cross contamination is a big risk. Restaurants need completely separate food preparation and cooking facilities, plus a lot of things you wouldn't expect to have gluten in them do have. Frozen chips for example or rice crispies ffs!

Rebel burger. No, no, no!

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