Leinster Rugby V Racing 92 Match Thread | Kick Off 16:45 Ireland Time | Sky & BT

durkadurka · 12-05-2018 1:21pm

Yeah my over confidence troubles me. I’m worried that I’m not worried.

joseywhales · 12-05-2018 1:22pm

The aer lingus defensive Twitter posts anger me more than their mixup. Like I don't care about there successful flights, they are expected to be able to fly booked passengers to their destination on time, bare minimum standard. To use their mistake to try to promote their airline just shows a lack of humility. They say they offered anre route through Amsterdam but do not state the delay that would have caused to the passengers. The claim 2 were affected but apparently more were 'randomly' drawn and accepeted compensation under social pressure. I wish they would accept their failure and apologise humbly like adults, instead of being conceited and defensive like spoilt defensive children. The compensation would want to be transport to the airport, time taken between travel and waiting x hourlyinimum wage, a meal, airline tickets, hotel bookings and match tickets along with emotional duress for being embarrassed in front of a crowd and the dissapointment.

selassie · 12-05-2018 1:36pm

Surely the best move for Aer Lingus is to just keep upping the price for giving up your seat till you have the enough volunteers? I wouldn't give up my seat there for 400 quid but at 2-3 grand I'd be tempted.

12-05-2018 1:37pm

joseywhales wrote: »

The aer lingus defensive Twitter posts anger me more than their mixup. Like I don't care about there successful flights, they are expected to be able to fly booked passengers to their destination on time, bare minimum standard. To use their mistake to try to promote their airline just shows a lack of humility. They say they offered anre route through Amsterdam but do not state the delay that would have caused to the passengers. The claim 2 were affected but apparently more were 'randomly' drawn and accepeted compensation under social pressure. I wish they would accept their failure and apologise humbly like adults, instead of being conceited and defensive like spoilt defensive children. The compensation would want to be transport to the airport, time taken between travel and waiting x hourlyinimum wage, a meal, airline tickets, hotel bookings and match tickets along with emotional duress for being embarrassed in front of a crowd and the dissapointment.

Is this the tweet you're referring to? Because if so I really have no idea what you're talking about tbh.

https://twitter.com/AerLingus/status/995243689789345792

Guy:Incognito · 12-05-2018 1:37pm

On the train back in to bilbao now from the continental shield game. Starting to get a bit of a buzz about the game.

Stadium was 2/3 full last night at most. A lot of Spanish where we were in the upper tier. Atmosphere was crap.

Bazzo · 12-05-2018 1:43pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

On the train back in to bilbao now from the continental shield game. Starting to get a bit of a buzz about the game.

Stadium was 2/3 full last night at most. A lot of Spanish where we were in the upper tier. Atmosphere was crap.

2/3 full in a 50,000 seater stadium in Spain for a Challenge Cup final between an English and Welsh team is pretty good...

thelad95 · 12-05-2018 1:45pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

On the train back in to bilbao now from the continental shield game. Starting to get a bit of a buzz about the game.

Stadium was 2/3 full last night at most. A lot of Spanish where we were in the upper tier. Atmosphere was crap.

Part of the disadvantage of playing in a non rugby country, those would have been curious locals/corporate ticket holders as opposed to people with a genuine interest in the game.

The atmosphere did come across as rubbish on TV, Cardiff’s winning penalty seemed to be greeted with a smattering of applause instead of a jubilant roar, was there many Cardiff fans there?

joseywhales · 12-05-2018 1:53pm

Jared Kind Sulfur wrote: »

joseywhales wrote: »

The aer lingus defensive Twitter posts anger me more than their mixup. Like I don't care about there successful flights, they are expected to be able to fly booked passengers to their destination on time, bare minimum standard. To use their mistake to try to promote their airline just shows a lack of humility. They say they offered anre route through Amsterdam but do not state the delay that would have caused to the passengers. The claim 2 were affected but apparently more were 'randomly' drawn and accepeted compensation under social pressure. I wish they would accept their failure and apologise humbly like adults, instead of being conceited and defensive like spoilt defensive children. The compensation would want to be transport to the airport, time taken between travel and waiting x hourlyinimum wage, a meal, airline tickets, hotel bookings and match tickets along with emotional duress for being embarrassed in front of a crowd and the dissapointment.

Is this the tweet you're referring to? Because if so I really have no idea what you're talking about tbh.

https://twitter.com/AerLingus/status/995243689789345792

Refers to paying customers as guests, a guest is someone who is being graciously offered service rather than someone entitled to and paying for it.

Talks about the 2,700 passengers they did transport, how is this relevant?

Does not state that the delay caused to the passengers rerouted, even in their replies - not transparent

If someone was working with me failed like this and instead of saying "I messed up", try to cover their tracks by stating their accomplishments and leave out inconvenient details, I would be extracting every single ommision in a slow, public and painstaking process. Because that's what you want people who take responsibility and ask for clemency.

No indication of the compensation offered - who knows maybe it does cover all the costs I indicated above, but I have my doubts ( should be over 1k)

12-05-2018 1:57pm

Absolutely bizarre stuff. It's very unfortunate for the two passengers and I really hope they get to the match but this is something that happens every single day of the week - without public apologies or self-flagellation or whatever you're after here.

Juwwi · 12-05-2018 1:58pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

On the train back in to bilbao now from the continental shield game. Starting to get a bit of a buzz about the game.

Stadium was 2/3 full last night at most. A lot of Spanish where we were in the upper tier. Atmosphere was crap.

Whats the weather like ?

Guy:Incognito · 12-05-2018 2:00pm

Bazzo wrote: »

2/3 full in a 50,000 seater stadium in Spain for a Challenge Cup final between an English and Welsh team is pretty good...

Wasn't 2/3 full of English and Welsh tho

Seemed to be just one clump of Cardiff fans and maybe a few scattered around.
The whole 1/3 of the upper tier that was behind the camera was closed

Guy:Incognito · 12-05-2018 2:00pm

robbie1977 wrote: »

Whats the weather like ?

Pissy

Thanos · 12-05-2018 2:05pm

Gone from a quietly confident position all week to one of apprehension today.
My head says we have all the tools to do it but I still have this little (annoying) voice in the back of my head saying What if they........

The waiting is the worst thing now, the sooner the games kicks off the better.

joseywhales · 12-05-2018 2:07pm

Jared Kind Sulfur wrote: »

Absolutely bizarre stuff. It's very unfortunate for the two passengers and I really hope they get to the match but this is something that happens every single day of the week - without public apologies or self-flagellation or whatever you're after here.

It just set a very insincere tone. There's this massive dissonance we all have to live with between "corporations are profit driven and do not care about customers or people in general on any fundamentals level" and "we'll get there together with her lingus" or whatever, it's so jarring.

Furthermore the quote I reacted to was a quote of a quote from the 42, where they seemed to initially state that only two passengers were affected.

https://mobile.twitter.com/rugby_ie/status/995244554994569216?s=19

They are just complete weasels.

OldRio · 12-05-2018 2:39pm

Jared Kind Sulfur wrote: »

Absolutely bizarre stuff. It's very unfortunate for the two passengers and I really hope they get to the match but this is something that happens every single day of the week - without public apologies or self-flagellation or whatever you're after here.

'Unfortunate' is not the word I would have used.

errlloyd · 12-05-2018 2:41pm

OldRio wrote: »

'Unfortunate' is not the word I would have used.

I think it is actually. Aer Lingus had to change the plane because the planned one had issues. The only plane available had 6 fewer seats. They've worked pretty hard to get some reasonable priced charters to bilbao, so I wouldn't be too harsh on the airline.

nc6000 · 12-05-2018 2:48pm

errlloyd wrote: »

I think it is actually. Aer Lingus had to change the plane because the planned one had issues. The only plane available had 6 fewer seats. They've worked pretty hard to get some reasonable priced charters to bilbao, so I wouldn't be too harsh on the airline.

Have they? I wouldn't have called the prices reasonable at all. When I checked after the semi final the extra flights the announced were working out at over €700 return.

Return flights with Aer Lingus to Bilbao the weekend after next are about €150.

squawker · 12-05-2018 2:51pm

all the best to the Leinster will be shouting for them today

From a proud Munsterman

joseywhales · 12-05-2018 2:54pm

errlloyd wrote: »

OldRio wrote: »

'Unfortunate' is not the word I would have used.

I think it is actually. Aer Lingus had to change the plane because the planned one had issues. The only plane available had 6 fewer seats. They've worked pretty hard to get some reasonable priced charters to bilbao, so I wouldn't be too harsh on the airline.

Their altruism knows no bounds. When did they know that planned plane had issues and that their replacement had 6 less seats? Was it one hour before boarding or 12? Could they have accommodated the 6 before the flight was due to depart? Could they have offered to route the passengers before they were originally supposed to board?

Podge_irl · 12-05-2018 3:07pm

Aaaaaaaargh. Turns out Sky Sports Action is not standard apparently and no pubs in a 50km radius of here (Interlaken) are showing the match. And no one has BT. Stupid, useless Switzerland.

12-05-2018 3:14pm

Fcuk it, time for a beer.

thomond2006 · 12-05-2018 3:14pm

https://twitter.com/ClemSarlat/status/995305205502750720?s=19

Carter set to cry off and be replaced by Tales. TBC.

thelad95 · 12-05-2018 3:16pm

Lads airlines overstretch themselves, oversell seats, have technical faults with aircraft at the last minute, I myself had the joy of sitting on the tarmac in a Qatar Airways plane in Dublin Airport for 6 hours in March but the way Aer Lingus has handled this does leave a sour taste in the mouth. Had they handled it correctly, the story wouldn’t have even made the news.

Squidgy Black · 12-05-2018 3:20pm

thelad95 wrote: »

Lads airlines overstretch themselves, oversell seats, have technical faults with aircraft at the last minute, I myself had the joy of sitting on the tarmac in a Qatar Airways plane in Dublin Airport for 6 hours in March but the way Aer Lingus has handled this does leave a sour taste in the mouth. Had they handled it correctly, the story wouldn’t have even made the news.

It's standard procedure for these things, offer compensation for people to give up their seat. If nobody does then they can't exactly stick them in the baggage hold to get them there instead. It's been reported that 2 of the people were rerouted through Amsterdam.

I'm not really sure what people expected them to do at short notice.

Sanjuro · 12-05-2018 3:22pm

Dan Carter out of the game. Disappointing.

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/995307959516389377

Burkie1203 · 12-05-2018 3:25pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

It's standard procedure for these things, offer compensation for people to give up their seat. If nobody does then they can't exactly stick them in the baggage hold to get them there instead. It's been reported that 2 of the people were rerouted through Amsterdam.

I'm not really sure what people expected them to do at short notice.

This wasn't a regular service route. It was a flight put in for the final. Expecting 6 ppl to no show is not on.

Squidgy Black · 12-05-2018 3:30pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

This wasn't a regular service route. It was a flight put in for the final. Expecting 6 ppl to no show is not on.

What else were the supposed to do? The plane they had chartered for the flight originally, with the correct amount of seats, had a technical fault that was discovered late last night. You can't charter a commercial plane in the space of a few hours, particularly on a Saturday. They managed to get another plane but it was 6 seats short.

irishbucsfan · 12-05-2018 3:31pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

This wasn't a regular service route. It was a flight put in for the final. Expecting 6 ppl to no show is not on.

They weren't expecting 6 people to no show

Buer · 12-05-2018 3:32pm

Is there some sort of match on in an hour?!

Squidgy Black · 12-05-2018 3:35pm

Buer wrote: »

Is there some sort of match on in an hour?!

Be quiet Buer we're arguing about planes trains and automobiles.

thomond2006 · 12-05-2018 3:36pm

Buer wrote: »

Is there some sort of match on in an hour?!

Stop trying to drag the thread off-topic Buer.

12-05-2018 3:37pm

Kinda feels like the day is ruined now. Thanks Buer.

Buer · 12-05-2018 3:39pm

I almost went a few hours without irritating someone. Phew.

sydthebeat · 12-05-2018 3:42pm

I really hope we batter the ****e out of them.
Syd out.

joseywhales · 12-05-2018 3:58pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Burkie1203 wrote: »

This wasn't a regular service route. It was a flight put in for the final. Expecting 6 ppl to no show is not on.

What else were the supposed to do? The plane they had chartered for the flight originally, with the correct amount of seats, had a technical fault that was discovered late last night. You can't charter a commercial plane in the space of a few hours, particularly on a Saturday. They managed to get another plane but it was 6 seats short.

You can inform everyone last night and offer routing to get them there on time, there are many options with many partner airlines to get them there on time. You can make sure the original plane doesn't have technical faults sooner, you can get two planes and have one on standby.

Point is that if money is not an option the airline can get anyone anywhere as promised when they bought a ticket.

irishfan9 · 12-05-2018 4:05pm

mark ryan and adam leavy being interviewed before the game.

razorblunt · 12-05-2018 4:10pm

You know you’re in Hellas when you’re struggling to watch Leinster, as a Munster man. On hols and can’t proxy my sky access.

Any PMs appreciated for some reliable rivers, brooks or tributaries.

Squidgy Black · 12-05-2018 4:12pm

The real question is are we all watching it on Sky or BT.

thomond2006 · 12-05-2018 4:12pm

.ak is late for our scheduled date. Sad!

kenmc · 12-05-2018 4:16pm

razorblunt wrote: »

You know you’re in Hellas when you’re struggling to watch Leinster, as a Munster man. On hols and can’t proxy my sky access.

Any PMs appreciated for some reliable rivers, brooks or tributaries.

I'd usually try to pick a first row, sports seat, when in the eu. Usually get a decent view

zweton · 12-05-2018 4:17pm

Any PMs ?

Squidgy Black · 12-05-2018 4:19pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

.ak is late for our scheduled date. Sad!

He's still trying to fit into his jeans

razorblunt · 12-05-2018 4:23pm

kenmc wrote: »

I'd usually try to pick a first row, sports seat, when in the eu. Usually get a decent view

Grand old view here now. Thanks.

part time punk · 12-05-2018 4:23pm

Another one here who'd love a pm of a stream

thomond2006 · 12-05-2018 4:24pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

He's still trying to fit into his jeans

He will over half an hour late! So untrustworthy!

12-05-2018 4:27pm

they are talking about Mulsters on newstalk! Tipp jerseys spotted in the crowd in Bilbao

Clegg · 12-05-2018 4:27pm

I'm sorry lads.

I was trying to stay the course of being confident for the game. But I'm bricking it now. Racing's defensive lineout prowess and their overall defense have me despairing. Their ability to turn it on in 20 minutes burst where they're unstoppable had my stomach doing somersaults as well.

ScrubsfanChris · 12-05-2018 4:29pm

Cheering for Leinster, sort of......

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Herpes Free Since03 · 12-05-2018 4:30pm

The very best of luck to Leinster today, bring the cup back to Ireland ...and let us Munster fans bask in reflective glory

Squatter · 12-05-2018 4:31pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

The real question is are we all watching it on Sky or BT.

BT for me!

Even though there is no risk of Robbo commentating, the HD option wins the day!

Leinster Rugby V Racing 92 Match Thread | Kick Off 16:45 Ireland Time | Sky & BT

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