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RWC 2019 Ireland v Japan Match Thread: Group A - Sat 28th Sep 08:15 Shizuoka

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    #752
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    The losing bonus point is probably huge. Scotland need to beat them by a bonus point assuming we can out Samoa and Russia away with Bp wins. Wouldn’t fancy being in Gregor Townsends shoes


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    #753
    TheMilkyPirate
    Registered Users Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    PhlegmyMoses wrote: »
    People will troll and whatever, but I will never understand an Irish person actively enjoying watching a team of Irish lads lose. That mindset is honestly baffling to me

    It's not a team of Irish lads though is it?


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    #754
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    westernfrenzy wrote: »
    The amount of "I told you so" ****e in relation to Ireland being bad and delight at Ireland playing ****e is honestly horrible to read through

    Mainly from premier league diehards it seems from a quick look at their post histories. Fanatic followers of a team from some place they have probably visited three times in their life and delighted to see their own country losing. Pathetic.


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    #755
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 32,211 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Japan might win the whole thing. I mean why not?
    .....let's have a bit of a reality check ...


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    #756
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    westernfrenzy wrote: »
    The amount of "I told you so" ****e in relation to Ireland being bad and delight at Ireland playing ****e is honestly horrible to read through

    I told you so.

    The cringe factor is the amount of peoole who though Ireland would hammer this Japan team.

    This team and smcith are well and truly ooen to criticism.

    Blaming the ref to try and deflect attention. Its a managerial tactic. Pitty he didnt have some ideas over the 80mins.


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    #757
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    So the “World Beaters” are back down to earth with a huge bang.
    Some of those players embarrassed themselves today.
    Not the easy game they expected.


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    #758
    edgecutter
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭edgecutter


    Ireland only have themselves to blame. Too many errors and totally devoid of any ideas of how to grain control of the game.

    Best lost two crucial line outs that cost us points and guaranteed at least 3 for Japan. You can't make errors of that magnitude in a world cup.

    The ref killed a lot of our momentum especially with a blatant offside that he refused to call and then we knock on. Yeah we were poor, but that decision could have given us a chance of three or a line out deep in their area.


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    #759
    SlickRic
    Registered Users Posts: 36,118 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    It was an awful performance and I will agree that he did ping us but he didnt ping them and thats the issue.

    You can't possibly claim that he applied the rules accurately to both teams today

    And this is the thing.

    I'm tired of having to say 'we should've been better' as if that's an excuse for the refereeing.

    We were bad, but the laws were not applied to both teams equally.

    When we were on their line, for example, they were offside on every single ruck.

    The one time he applied the rules equally was when we were 19-12 down and Carbery sliced the penalty.


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    #760
    gally74
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭gally74


    NeonWolf wrote: »
    High tackle by Rob Kearney in last pass before Japan try . He caught him on the jaw

    Could be cited, but didn’t seem right anway


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    #761
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    Ran out of gas about 7 mins or so in to second half. Lads were out on their feet. Japan just looked ready to go for another 10-15 mins beyond full time.

    We had absolutely no control over that second half what so ever. We just needed a period where the Japanese couldn’t get their hands on the ball. Instead we kicked it away, our runners were being throw the ball while static and then being smashed.

    We are now left in a situation where Samoa is now a must win. If Samoa beat Scotland or Japan then they will think they can beat us and looking at us today in those conditions then that is a strong possibility. The group has just been blown wide wide open.


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    #762
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    gmisk wrote: »
    .....let's have a bit of a reality check ...

    Its as realistic as Ireland winning it :)


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    #763
    zubair
    Registered Users Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    Clegg wrote: »
    Yes, but you also need a calm head at 10 when things aren't going well. Carty and Carbery both panicked. Not t saying Sexton is immune to feeling pressure, but I do think he would have performed better.

    I think where sexton would have been key is in motivating the team and getting them going forward.


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    #764
    Christy42
    Registered Users Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Mokuba wrote: »
    I'm sure they would those 2 friendly victories for a successful world cup.

    People will be falling over themselves to say how competitive those matches are but these are the competitive matches and Ireland fail every time.

    There is a clearly a massive difference between glorified friendlies and even Six Nations rugby vs World Cup rugby, which Ireland fans either can't or won't see and admit.

    You said Ireland were crap the last 12 months.

    Tell me they played crap against New Zealand 12 months ago. Tell me New Zealand didn't play that game to a high standard.

    Admit when you are wrong.

    Edit: we fail them every time??? Scotland was a competitive game and we kicked them home. We are not that far removed from 6 nation's glory ourselves. Is the six nation's and world cup vs tier 1 opposition not good enough for you? You underlined every so I take you mean every.

    People take too much delight in taking down others who have had a bit of success.


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    #765
    piplip87
    Registered Users Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭piplip87


    There's been an arrogance about this team for a while. We went to the corner on a couple of occasions where a kick at the posts would have done. It's grand going to the corner when behind or Infront especially with the line out troubles in the last while.


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    #766
    Mr.Crinklewood
    Registered Users Posts: 12,414 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Hurrache wrote: »
    What was the alternative?

    Not getting the bonus losing point


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    #767
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    smelly sock wrote: »
    JAPAN.

    World number 1. Laughable.

    Raeburn Shield holders though.


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    #768
    Drumpot
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    How many world cups do Ireland go into it with reasonably high hopes only to seriously under perform? It’s a real shame as they are clearly a talented side. I’d say New Zealand are looking toward to the quarters.


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    #769
    is_that_so
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    MadYaker wrote: »
    These posts just make me laugh. Disgusting ego ffs. I’ll never understand all the misery junkies in this country, it must be a sad way to live your life.
    These threads should be locked for a few hours after a match like this. Give people time to calm down. A lot of disappointment and some people show it in very different ways.:)


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    #770
    Gonad
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    Japan played really well and that Irish lads looked wrecked after 20 mins .throws everything open now doesn’t it . Japan will best Scotland and we will probably end up against NZ


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    #771
    MadYaker
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    So the “World Beaters” are back down to earth with a huge bang.
    Some of those players embarrassed themselves today.
    Not the easy game they expected.

    Who in particular embarrassed themselves in your esteemed opinion?


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    #772
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    TheMilkyPirate wrote: »
    It's not a team of Irish lads though is it?

    They had one player today who qualified by residency. When was the last time the soccer team took the field without five or six lads who never lived in Ireland in their life part of the squad?


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    #773
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    gmisk wrote: »
    .....let's have a bit of a reality check ...

    After Leicester in 2016 I'm betting against anything.

    There's no obvious favourite, no outstanding team, Japan will be at home and are inspired.


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    #774
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 32,211 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Its as realistic as Ireland winning it :)
    That isn't saying much.


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    #775
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    TheMilkyPirate wrote: »
    It's not a team of Irish lads though is it?

    Yeah it is.


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    #776
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,926 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Sexton would've been in Gardner's ear all game you'd think with those decisions. Missed that.


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    #777
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    SlickRic wrote: »
    And this is the thing.

    I'm tired of having to say 'we should've been better' as if that's an excuse for the refereeing.

    We were bad, but the laws were not applied to both teams equally.

    When we were on their line, for example, they were offside on every single ruck.

    The one time he applied the rules equally was when we were 19-12 down and Carbery sliced the penalty.

    Lads show a little class. We were outplayed and the better side won. Yes some questionable decisions but that performance is a disgrace.


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    #778
    Hoppy Jack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭Hoppy Jack


    Conan will be a happy man getting away home from this sorry mess.


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    #779
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,166 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »
    Not getting the bonus losing point

    I know, but many others don't seem to realise that.


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    #780
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users Posts: 16,230 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    well that was disappointing. thought the turning point was not giving ireland a penalty when RK was closelined


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    #781
    UnknownSpecies
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    I'll never understand the mentality of people who get such pleasure from seeing their national team do poorly. Some of the stuff being posted here is absolutely embarrassing.


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