Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

Deadlift kid · 21-05-2019 2:20pm

SirGerryAdams wrote:

I have seen this actually in the workplace funnily enough...I have seen in numerous places warnings that the hot water boiler is a hot hazard and a toaster will make the contents hot...

Peanut butter alergy advice (may contain nuts ) really ? Hmmmm I hope so best one I know tbh lol ðŸ˜‚

Plumbthedepths · 21-05-2019 2:21pm

ToddyDoody wrote:

I'm presume all indoor swings will now be dismantled?

No I believe there will be a health and safety officer appointed with the sole responsibility of showing 40 something year adults how to sit and hold on. Every other person with half a brain understands the complexities including 4 year olds.

partyguinness · 21-05-2019 2:22pm

Edgware wrote: »

Its important to be able to differentiate between education and intelligence.
I will take the intelligent person anytime

You are quite right in that education and intelligence are two distinct concepts.

I know highly educated people who are dim beyond belief but some of the sharpest people I know barely have a LC

McMurphy · 21-05-2019 2:24pm

Edgware wrote: »

Its important to be able to differentiate between education and intelligence.
I will take the intelligent person anytime

Indeed.

As pointed out already - academic qualifications are irrelevant when it comes to the hand to eye skills and basic intelligence required to get to grips with the rather basic skills needed to understand the principles of operating a swing, unsupervised, or without a sign instructing an able bodied person to do so.

Seems Ms Bailey is in receipt of neither.

partyguinness · 21-05-2019 2:25pm

Sure there was a woman in England a few months back who sued the manufacturers of her new bed that she decided to break in. She was shagging her lover and he whipped her around for some doggy style and she fell off the bed.

Unfortunately she landed awkwardly on her head and is now in a wheelchair.

The Court dismissed her claim.

Deebles McBeebles · 21-05-2019 2:29pm

partyguinness wrote: »

Sure there was a woman in England a few months back who sued the manufacturers of her new bed that she decided to break in. She was shagging her lover and he whipped her around for some doggy style and she fell off the bed.

Unfortunately she landed awkwardly on her head and is now in a wheelchair.

The Court dismissed her claim.

Here she would get 500k and be called a sexual rights activist.

BarryD2 · 21-05-2019 2:32pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Money.

Nah, €60K?? The cost of the negative publicity is way more than that. Maybe she's not thinking of standing again and doesn't care much for her political or party reputation?

An Claidheamh · 21-05-2019 2:37pm

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

Because refusing to pay a claim does not magically make it go away. The claimant lodges proceedings to have the matter heard in court and if the defendant (and their insurer) do not turn up, the claimant wins by default.

Anyone can make a claim against anybody for anything. It is at your own peril you don't defend your position.

So what, don't pay

21-05-2019 2:38pm

If you’re in her constituency come general election time, may I suggest that you shout out your window that she can only canvas you whilst standing on the public footpath.

Otherwise she could trip over your 2 Euro home store and more garden light and sue the house off ya!

Irish Guitarist · 21-05-2019 2:39pm

The proper way to use a swing is to sit on it while someone pushes you around in a circle. Then when the chain is as tight as it can get release it so you go spinning.

I might apply to this hotel for a job as a swing supervisor.

21-05-2019 2:40pm

jesus christ what an embarrassment

TuringBot47 · 21-05-2019 2:40pm

Edgware wrote: »

Its important to be able to differentiate between education and intelligence.

True, but the majority of the time they are very closely linked.
Anyways... that could spawn its own AH thread.

An Claidheamh · 21-05-2019 2:41pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Best story ever. Can't wait for this to be featured on all the UK/US chat shows in their 'ah sure look show stupid the Paddies are' section.

Only fair,

we've had 'ah sure look at the stupid Tans segments' on our media since they voted for Brexit, (and didn't know where their border was.)

Ditto, the Americans with Trump.

partyguinness · 21-05-2019 2:43pm

An Claidheamh wrote: »

So what, don't pay

Ok. Don't pay.

Following on the Claimant is now armed with a Judgment (let's say €20k) and can take enforcement proceedings against the company's assets. Oh and don't forget the costs are mounting up as well. So that €20k is now €30k. Send around the Sheriff to seize goods.

However a Court is not likely to make an award of this nature with evidence and they will issue a warrant for a representative of the defendant to appear in Court.

Point is- ignoring it will not make it go away.

21-05-2019 2:45pm

Haha. I’ve just read that she is CHAIR of an oireachtas committee for housing.

Now we know why the housing situation is fooked!

Tabnabs · 21-05-2019 3:02pm

https://twitter.com/CharlieLurks/status/1130816175057903616

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Ipso · 21-05-2019 3:09pm

partyguinness wrote: »

Edgware wrote: »

Its important to be able to differentiate between education and intelligence.
I will take the intelligent person anytime

You are quite right in that education and intelligence are two distinct concepts.

I know highly educated people who are dim beyond belief but some of the sharpest people I know barely have a LC

Yeah, it’s swings and roundabouts.

ChikiChiki · 21-05-2019 3:24pm

TuringBot47 wrote: »

Looks like she only has a leaving cert, no third level qualification.

https://ie.linkedin.com/in/mariabaileytd

Explains a lot.

Huh? Sidetrack but you certainly don't need a 3rd level education to be successful.

gmisk · 21-05-2019 3:27pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Haha. I’ve just read that she is CHAIR of an oireachtas committee for housing.

Now we know why the housing situation is fooked!

Hopefully the chair has instructions and a warning about how to sit on it.

Deebles McBeebles · 21-05-2019 3:44pm

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Only fair,

we've had 'ah sure look at the stupid Tans segments' on our media since they voted for Brexit, (and didn't know where their border was.)

Ditto, the Americans with Trump.

True enough. The only part we can hold on to is our latest embarrassment is only one person, Brexit and Trump involved whole swathes of the population.

Plumbthedepths · 21-05-2019 4:18pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote:

True enough. The only part we can hold on to is our latest embarrassment is only one person, Brexit and Trump involved whole swathes of the population.

What our idiot didn't rise to the lofty heights without the aid of several thousand voters?

shar01 · 21-05-2019 4:26pm

Here's hoping the negative publicity scuppers her dad's chances on Friday.

JeffKenna · 21-05-2019 4:31pm

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

The proper way to use a swing is to sit on it while someone pushes you around in a circle. Then when the chain is as tight as it can get release it so you go spinning.

I might apply to this hotel for a job as a swing supervisor.

you have to make sure to hold the chain at the bottom though or else it can hurt your hands.

JPCN1 · 21-05-2019 4:31pm

Jeez, what an utter embarrassment... The country is crippled with insurance costs and want the government to act and we get this??? Hopefully the hotel wins and costs go against her, needing supervision for a swing ffs. Lets also hope her constituents are reminded come election time...

Auguste Comte · 21-05-2019 4:34pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

PaulieC wrote: »

only reasonable course of action is to let your local FG election and European election candidates that you will not vote FG because of this, no matter who the candidate is.

Yeah that sounds fair and right.

There will be no one or no parties left to vote for if people won’t vote over one members behavior.

Turns out it's not just one FG'r with their snout in the questionable claims trough.

Lead by example.......

McMurphy · 21-05-2019 4:52pm

BarryD2 wrote: »

Nah, €60K?? The cost of the negative publicity is way more than that. Maybe she's not thinking of standing again and doesn't care much for her political or party reputation?

Dunno about that Barry, remember this FG gobshyte?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpko_hXWb7Q

He got his fair share of negative publicity at the time he was exposed being a corrupt pig with his snout in the trough.

Yep, he's standing for election in the locals this year again, albeit as an independent.

They have neither shame nor honour when it comes to money.

hatrickpatrick · 21-05-2019 5:03pm

Just one more reason to vote FFG the hell out of government at the earliest opportunity. Of course, people like this don't mind having to pay double digits for a gin and tonic, so they're not likely to make the mental link between this kind of idiocy and nights out in Dublin getting more expensive, even when they're already absolutely outrageous compared with most European cities.

I really wish we were talking about changing the law on liability rather than trying to limit payouts at the judicial level, though. What's needed is not for judges to award smaller payouts, what's needed is for the law to very clearly state that if you do something because of your own carelessness, clumsiness or drunkenness, then it's 100% your own responsibility and absolutely nobody else's. In other words, limiting payouts awarded by judges isn't the problem, because the courts shouldn't be ruling in favour of these claims at all. They should be throwing such cases out entirely by simply saying "this was something you did and it's your own damn fault, case dismissed".

ChikiChiki · 21-05-2019 5:06pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Dunno about that Barry, remember this FG gobshyte?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpko_hXWb7Q

He got his fair share of negative publicity at the time he was exposed being a corrupt pig with his snout in the trough.

Yep, he's standing for election in the locals this year again, albeit as an independent.

They have neither shame nor honour when it comes to money.

I said it before and I will say it again, there are a LOT of politicians in Dail Eireann an.d especially the Governing parties whose sole motivation is lining their pockets. This extends to local councils. I remember working in a previous job and seeing absoloutly insane amounts of cash being transferred from a County Council to the plant hire company of a sitting councillor. The plant hire company had won a lot of contracts in the area from the council. Alarm bells were ringing Happy to get elected then sit on the sidelines. They are taking us for fools.

BPKS · 21-05-2019 5:55pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So as far you are concerned it's entirely the hotels fault that a 43 old female was unsupervised on a swing with both her hands full? I hope the hotel has warnings on their cups that the contents may be hot if this is the level of idiocy that is being defended.
Yet this adult is trusted by some to vote for legislation that effects all our lives.

You are comparing apples and oranges.

The point is when you put a swing in a pub you should have foreseen that there was a good chance that at some stage some drunk person would fall off it.

A swing belongs in a playground, not a pub.

dxhound2005 · 21-05-2019 5:57pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I said it before and I will say it again, there are a LOT of politicians in Dail Eireann an.d especially the Governing parties whose sole motivation is lining their pockets. This extends to local councils. I remember working in a previous job and seeing absoloutly insane amounts of cash being transferred from a County Council to the plant hire company of a sitting councillor. The plant hire company had won a lot of contracts in the area from the council. Alarm bells were ringing Happy to get elected then sit on the sidelines. They are taking us for fools.

Following the major cull there are not a LOT of elected politicians in total. Less than 1200. So no matter how many times you say it, it doesn't add up.

cannotlogin · 21-05-2019 6:14pm

If the crazy lady cannot manage to look after herself on a swing, then she has no business in any position of responsibilty.

Half the country has sat on that swing, most of them with a few drinks on them, and manage to escape the evil contraption without injury.

She should be embarrassed by her stupidity ffs

Plumbthedepths · 21-05-2019 6:16pm

ChikiChiki wrote:

I said it before and I will say it again, there are a LOT of politicians in Dail Eireann an.d especially the Governing parties whose sole motivation is lining their pockets. This extends to local councils. I remember working in a previous job and seeing absoloutly insane amounts of cash being transferred from a County Council to the plant hire company of a sitting councillor. The plant hire company had won a lot of contracts in the area from the council. Alarm bells were ringing Happy to get elected then sit on the sidelines. They are taking us for fools.

Kerry C.C.?

NSAman · 21-05-2019 6:18pm

So does this mean that she is ultimately a "swinger"?

Plumbthedepths · 21-05-2019 6:20pm

BPKS wrote:

The point is when you put a swing in a pub you should have foreseen that there was a good chance that at some stage some drunk person would fall off it.

Luckily for her she didn't fall over a chair/table/off the toilet in the hotel. Fair play defend her if you wish. Lots of people will see her and her ilk as to why our premiums are climbing.

kowloon · 21-05-2019 6:22pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Best story ever. Can't wait for this to be featured on all the UK/US chat shows in their 'ah sure look show stupid the Paddies are' section.

That's what the Healy Rae family is for.

Auguste Comte · 21-05-2019 6:25pm

NSAman wrote: »

So does this mean that she is ultimately a "swinger"?

She sounds more like the type that would charge for it.

Feisar · 21-05-2019 6:29pm

BPKS wrote: »

You are comparing apples and oranges.

The point is when you put a swing in a pub you should have foreseen that there was a good chance that at some stage some drunk person would fall off it.

A swing belongs in a playground, not a pub.

While I see your point where does personal responsibility kick in?

For instance lots of places will hand you a sharp steak knife while also serving booze. Should we sue if we cut ourselves?

Auguste Comte · 21-05-2019 6:34pm

Feisar wrote: »

BPKS wrote: »

You are comparing apples and oranges.

The point is when you put a swing in a pub you should have foreseen that there was a good chance that at some stage some drunk person would fall off it.

A swing belongs in a playground, not a pub.

While I see your point where does personal responsibility kick in?

For instance lots of places will hand you a sharp steak knife while also serving booze. Should we sue if we cut ourselves?

Only if the knife doesn't come with instructions on how to use it and a warning that it is sharp. Some choking warnings and advice on how to chew correctly.

Alrigghtythen · 21-05-2019 6:39pm

BPKS wrote: »

You are comparing apples and oranges.

The point is when you put a swing in a pub you should have foreseen that there was a good chance that at some stage some drunk person would fall off it.

A swing belongs in a playground, not a pub.

When she seen the swing in a pub she should have forseen there was a good chance she'd get pissed and fall off it and taken personal responsibility to avoid that situation.

Instead what does she do? Lep on the swing with her hands full and cry there were no instructions or supervision when she fell off it

https://youtu.be/Y0tSlGYjNkY

dark crystal · 21-05-2019 6:47pm

This sort of snout in the trough, money-grabbing avarice genuinely makes me sick to my stomach. The fact it's being initiated by someone supposedly serving the needs of their constituents is even harder to stomach.

Amidst businesses closing their doors because of insurance hikes caused by spurious claims such as this one, you'd think our public representatives would be working their asses off to improve the situation, not looking to add to the misery caused by such actions.

Michael D'Arcy, Minister of State at the Department of Finance and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform recently opined our 'bananas compensation culture' and here's his brass-necked colleague along with her hand out after falling off a ****ing swing!!

We truly get the politicians we deserve...unbelievable.

Fann Linn · 21-05-2019 6:47pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

Driving down steps. Falling off swings! Some shower of morons we elect!

Common denominator-Fine Gael.

Alrigghtythen · 21-05-2019 6:49pm

dark crystal wrote: »

This sort of snout in the trough, money-grabbing avarice genuinely makes me sick to my stomach. The fact it's being initiated by someone supposedly serving the needs of their constituents is even harder to stomach.

Amidst businesses closing their doors because of insurance hikes caused by spurious claims such as this one, you'd think our public representatives would be working their asses off to improve the situation, not looking to add to the misery caused by such actions.

Michael D'Arcy, Minister of State at the Department of Finance and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform recently opined our 'bananas compensation culture' and here's his brass-necked colleague along with her hand out after falling off a ****ing swing!!

We truly get the politicians we deserve...unbelievable.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bailey_(Irish_politician)

Her father's wiki is some reading

Plumbthedepths · 21-05-2019 6:52pm

Thing is she is also displaying her greed. Her claim in the first instance would have gone to PIAB. PIAB would have suggested an award she turned it down and hired her colleagues Madigan the culture minister's firm to pursue a claim. I hope she looses and costs are awarded against. Can't see this publicity doing her Daddies election chances alot of good on Friday.

dark crystal · 21-05-2019 6:53pm

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bailey_(Irish_politician)

Her father's wiki is some reading

The Apple clearly doesn't fall far from the tree.

Del boy has nothing on these chancers.

Atoms for Peace · 21-05-2019 6:56pm

Hoboo wrote: »

Looks like her face took the impact

https://www.herald.ie/news/courts/td-had-items-in-both-hands-when-she-fell-off-swing-hotel-claims-38131916.html

Stay classy San Diego.

dark crystal · 21-05-2019 6:58pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Thing is she is also displaying her greed. Her claim in the first instance would have gone to PIAB. PIAB would have suggested an award she turned it down and hired her colleagues Madigan the culture minister's firm to pursue a claim. I hope she looses and costs are awarded against. Can't see this publicity doing her Daddies election chances alot of good on Friday.

I hope so, unfortunately chancers like him usually land on their feet :rolleyes:

McMurphy · 21-05-2019 7:03pm

BPKS wrote: »

You are comparing apples and oranges.

The point is when you put a swing in a pub you should have foreseen that there was a good chance that at some stage some drunk person would fall off it.

A swing belongs in a playground, not a pub.

Aha, I see the potential problems now with Ms Bailey's claim, she should be arguing that a drunk person may fall off a swing, that belongs in a children's playground.

Problem is - I didn't see anywhere in the report where she claimed she was drunk.

Just a claim that she wasn't to be trusted unsupervised on a device usually found in kids playgrounds without signage instructing her how to properly use something the rest of us mastered as toddlers.

The culture Ministers ex law firm will hopefully pick up on this now too and change the grounds for the claim.

Jesus H Christ.

Sir Oxman · 21-05-2019 8:32pm

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bailey_(Irish_politician)

Her father's wiki is some reading

the greedy apple didn't fall far from that sickening treestump

Ipso · 21-05-2019 9:16pm

dark crystal wrote: »

I hope so, unfortunately chancers like him usually land on their feet :rolleyes:

Not if they're on a swing.

Sorry about that · 21-05-2019 9:31pm

Told my eight year old child about this case- he asked me how old she was, and when I told him he refused to believe the story.

Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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