RTE cameraman attacked by Gardai

kneemos · 07-02-2016 4:38am

STB. wrote: »

Which line is that ? Tell you what lets draws a line under the whole issue. This is the line the guard broke as he stepped forward and assaulted the RTE cameraman, from what I can see.

Shouldn't be at the front of an angry mob then.

STB. · 07-02-2016 5:04am

kneemos wrote: »

Shouldn't be at the front of an angry mob then.

I wouldn't call them a mob, it only seemed to be one angry guard.

Adieu.

galljga1 · 07-02-2016 5:33am

All I wanted was a Whopper, ya fcuking freestate b@stdard.

The_Valeyard · 07-02-2016 7:34am

The Valentines Day rush has started early this year.

07-02-2016 7:44am

No excuse for hitting a camera which I'm guessing was quite a large one that stood out. The guard in question should have been in more control m

Belt away at the others no problem.

Greentopia · 07-02-2016 7:56am

RDM_83 again wrote: »

The sad thing is nearly every time you read about facists and anti-facist protesters, its the Anti-Fa ones that always seem to be the ones that are actually involved in violence. Strange because using violence to achieve ones political aims is normally associated with what ideology (spot quiz )

Violence against ordinary citizens? not in my experience being on the ANTIFA side.

Luke92 · 07-02-2016 8:12am

kneemos wrote: »

He had a professional looking camera in fairness,but so could anyone.

That's a bit delusional. "So could anyone"? Is this a new thing? Protesters carrying huge, heavy, worth thousands of euro cameras.

He's definitely a professional cameraman and not an undercover protestor.

07-02-2016 8:13am

Whatever about the Garda, Section 8 of the Public Order Act, whether camera men should be given some special status etc...this is just...comedy gold!

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=913561958751080&id=912549568852319

07-02-2016 8:13am

Whatever about the Garda, Section 8 of the Public Order Act, whether camera men should be given some special status etc...this is just...comedy gold!

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=913561958751080&id=912549568852319

Luke92 · 07-02-2016 8:21am

kneemos wrote: »

You'd want to watch that oul video again chap.

Which hit are we talking about? Where he hits the camera or where he hits the cameraman in the legs. I'm talking about the leg incident.

No matter how many times I watch it I see the same thing.

He's right in the middle of it. Moves or is shoved a good 5 feet away. When the guard violently lunges off the line to strike him in the leg. I'm watching a clip with a side view. And you see the cameraman walking backward and also someone out of shot has a hold of his jacket slowly walking him back too.

I think you should probably watch it a few more times if you missed all that the first few go's. Pause, rewind and keep doing that until you see what actually happens.

Buffman · 07-02-2016 9:08am

Here's another video of the same Garda (minus his ID number) hitting an Irish Times journalist.

ezra_pound · 07-02-2016 9:12am

kneemos wrote: »

Without ID how would they know who he was?He had a professional looking camera in fairness,but so could anyone.
Crap position to be in anyway,what could he see from there only a line of Guards.

It doesn't matter who he is. If he was pat Kenny they should have still battered him. If he was uncle gaybo they should have battered him. His actions and failures to act are at issue, not his identity or affiliations.

Richard Hillman · 07-02-2016 9:13am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Whatever about the Garda, Section 8 of the Public Order Act, whether camera men should be given some special status etc...this is just...comedy gold!

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=913561958751080&id=912549568852319

They just make themselves sound like thugs (of which they are)

JustTheOne · 07-02-2016 9:20am

Where's the video of them chasing the group into a store and attacking them with innocent shoppers and workers?

Shows a totally different situation with what the gards had to deal with.

LordSutch · 07-02-2016 9:30am

I hear one of the protester shouting at the police "You Effin Free State basterds"....

What does that mean? and what political persuasion might he be?

Wolf Club · 07-02-2016 9:42am

Saying the cameraman deserved it because of where he was positioned is ludicrous, he's a cameraman ffs, it's his job to get amongst the action, not stand on the outskirts. I can't imagine his producers would have been best pleased if he came back with no footage of the clash.

Bongalongherb · 07-02-2016 9:44am

That garda was on a power trip. Hitting the cameraman proves this. He should get suspended for 4 weeks without pay and also sent to anger management classes in how to professionally deal with social situations of which he lacks the skills in.

07-02-2016 9:58am

LordSutch wrote: »

I hear one of the protester shouting at the police "You Effin Free State basterds"....

What does that mean? and what political persuasion might he be?

Free Presbyterian Republican

Wanderer78 · 07-02-2016 9:58am

Bongalongherb wrote:

That garda was on a power trip. Hitting the cameraman proves this. He should get suspended for 4 weeks without pay and also sent to anger management classes in how to professionally deal with social situations of which he lacks the skills in.

Yes it's possible to live in Ireland this day in age without pay for a few weeks!

Valetta · 07-02-2016 9:58am

Bongalongherb wrote: »

That garda was on a power trip. Hitting the cameraman proves this. He should get suspended for 4 weeks without pay and also sent to anger management classes in how to professionally deal with social situations of which he lacks the skills in.

Guards order people to move back. NOW.

People refuse to obey the order.

People get whacked.

I don't see the problem with the guards actions.

Special Circumstances · 07-02-2016 10:04am

Wolf Club wrote: »

Saying the cameraman deserved it because of where he was positioned is ludicrous, he's a cameraman ffs, it's his job to get amongst the action, not stand on the outskirts. I can't imagine his producers would have been best pleased if he came back with no footage of the clash.

You can't hit cameras cameras cameras you can't hit cameras you can't hit cameras.

Sounds very much like the favourite sport of people trying to kick trouble off - blocking people, getting right up in front of them "peaceful protest peaceful protest you can't hit me you can't hit me I can block you but you can't hit me peaceful protest peaceful Omg mammy youtube mammy have you all seen this I was hit"

phelant · 07-02-2016 10:06am

Just another example of the Gardaí handling a situation badly and allowing rouge elements to get out of control.

Special Circumstances · 07-02-2016 10:08am

phelant wrote: »

Just another example of the Gardaí handling a situation badly and allowing rouge elements to get out of control.

Rouge. Well la-dee-da.you make it sound so romantic when you say red in french. :pac:

kneemos · 07-02-2016 10:12am

If all we have to talk about is a cameraman with a sore leg I think they can call this one a resounding success.

phelant · 07-02-2016 10:12am

Special Circumstances wrote: »

Rouge. Well la-dee-da.you make it sound so romantic when you say red in french. :pac:

HaHa. Well spotted. I was talking about his love of the crimson and his effortless attempts to get it flowing.

Collie D · 07-02-2016 10:20am

I think some people are finding it difficult to tell the difference between protestors and a member if the press. For their actions anyone in the locality should get it. And if it wasn't a protest by the left they probably wouldn't be on this thread.

Equally as worrying are the ones who still think a Garda is entitled to lash out because someone (in their opinion) has failed to comply to an order. Sure, who wouldn't want a police state?

The individual Garda in those videos was very much out of order. Putting on a uniform does not give anyone free rein to enforce their own version of justice.

If you wanted to be a complete cynic you might even argue that attacking a member of the press is even more sinister than anyone else. Did this Garda not want people to see what he was up to?

Mr.Crinklewood · 07-02-2016 10:22am

Has the attack been edited out?

JustTheOne · 07-02-2016 10:30am

http://m.rte.ie/news/2016/0206/765936-protest-pegida-dublin/

This video shows just what the gards had to deal with.

Idiots.

ezra_pound · 07-02-2016 10:34am

Wolf Club wrote: »

Saying the cameraman deserved it because of where he was positioned is ludicrous, he's a cameraman ffs, it's his job to get amongst the action, not stand on the outskirts. I can't imagine his producers would have been best pleased if he came back with no footage of the clash.

That's like saying there should be camera men in the boxing ring, in the box in a football match, on the track in the 1000 m sprint.

GET REAL

JRant · 07-02-2016 10:34am

phelant wrote: »

Just another example of the Gardaí handling a situation badly and allowing rouge elements to get out of control.

In all fairness I think the gardai handled the situation very well. It was one idiot with a baton, the rest did a good job.

Those rent a mob clown who seem to turn up at every protest now need dealing with asap. At the start of the video outside the shop you can hear one of those clowns saying "ah garda, it's not fair, you have weapons and we don't"!!!!

These numpties, with their freeman, free-state nonsense are so stupid they're dangerous. Looking at them it's clear their mammies still dress them in their best tracksuit and hoodie before sending them out with some pocket money for sweets.

ezra_pound · 07-02-2016 10:36am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Yes it's possible to live in Ireland this day in age without pay for a few weeks!

What day in age is this?

Bongalongherb · 07-02-2016 10:37am

Everyone is entitled to protest, but the Love-Migrant Brigade started the problem, the little angry bastards that they are.

JRant · 07-02-2016 10:38am

kneemos wrote: »

If all we have to talk about is a cameraman with a sore leg I think they can call this one a resounding success.

I think G103 will be doing nothing more than answering the phone for a good long spell after his carryon yesterday.

Garda HQ will want to smooth this over as quick as possible with RTE.

JRant · 07-02-2016 10:40am

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Everyone is entitled to protest, but the Love-Migrant Brigade started the problem, the little angry bastards that they are.

It's ironic that the far right and far left have far more in common with each other than the avaerage person.

ezra_pound · 07-02-2016 10:44am

The cops in this country are way too soft. There should have been a lot more slaps there yesterday.

Wanderer78 · 07-02-2016 10:45am

ezra_pound wrote:

What day in age is this?

Ah right we 've managed to abolish debt and made everything free so it's possible to live in Ireland without pay for a few weeks!

ezra_pound · 07-02-2016 10:48am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Ah right we 've managed to abolish debt and made everything free so it's possible to live in Ireland without pay for a few weeks!

Yes... But what does day in age mean?

Bongalongherb · 07-02-2016 10:48am

The so-called anti-fascist movement did not allow PEGIDA to continue on a peaceful protest as they hijacked it like the criminals they are with complete disregard for the right to a peaceful protest. The so-called anti-fascist group stink to high heaven.

Bongalongherb · 07-02-2016 10:50am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Ah right we 've managed to abolish debt and made everything free so it's possible to live in Ireland without pay for a few weeks!

If a person creates their own Debt, then they have to deal with it regardless of the situation, you put yourself in that position.

Wolf Club · 07-02-2016 10:59am

ezra_pound wrote: »

That's like saying there should be camera men in the boxing ring, in the box in a football match, on the track in the 1000 m sprint.

GET REAL

Utter nonsence, there's a huge difference between an organised sporting event and the chaotic aftermath of a protest. The cameraman would have been briefed to get a close up shot of what's going on. Why else would he have been in there?

timthumbni · 07-02-2016 11:17am

What was the crack with the "you free state bastards" shouted from the protesters? Was this a Sinn Fein thing? Was waiting to hear west Brit being thrown in there just for the craic.

seanin4711 · 07-02-2016 11:20am

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

The cameraman was in the wrong place. He made the decision to place himself in danger so I have no sympathy.

you amaze me!
the camera man needs to record how this manic operates.
I have a lot of sympathy for him.
Cops hate to have their misdeeds recorded.

JRant · 07-02-2016 11:23am

timthumbni wrote: »

What was the crack with the "you free state bastards" shouted from the protesters? Was this a Sinn Fein thing? Was waiting to hear west Brit being thrown in there just for the craic.

Amazing the Shinners are not to blame for every protest that goes wrong.

As posted by others on 2 pages ago, it's some crackpot group calling themselves Irish Republican Left Action against Facism

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=913561958751080&id=912549568852319

A right bunch of knuckle dragging, mouth breathing yahoos.

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-02-2016 11:32am

JRant wrote: »

Amazing the Shinners are not to blame for every protest that goes wrong.

As posted by others on 2 pages ago, it's some crackpot group calling themselves Irish Republican Left Action against Facism

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=913561958751080&id=912549568852319

A right bunch of knuckle dragging, mouth breathing yahoos.

That reads like something from Germany in the 30s

JRant · 07-02-2016 12:09pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

That reads like something from Germany in the 30s

They seem like a lovely bunch altogether.

Ray Palmer · 07-02-2016 1:42pm

Forgetting about the camera man for a minute. At 17secs on the Irish Times footage a garda starts smacking people from behind as the are walking away. He isn't saying a word. Completely uncalled for, not sure if it is the same one that hits the cameraman but that guy needs to be fired.

kingchess · 07-02-2016 1:53pm

if a garda lawfully tells you to move,then you have to move,if you square up to the garda and threaten the garda you deserve a tap of the baton ,I have no problem with that,but if you hit some one walking away you or I would be charged with assault so why should a guard be above the law??

Clandestine · 07-02-2016 1:55pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z68yTJWXm5g&feature=youtu.be

Watch this and tell me who the fascists really are

07-02-2016 1:59pm

Wolf Club wrote: »

Utter nonsence, there's a huge difference between an organised sporting event and the chaotic aftermath of a protest. The cameraman would have been briefed to get a close up shot of what's going on. Why else would he have been in there?

He should have been off to the side recording (which would have given a better view also) or behind the Gardai. Being at the front of the push of rioters is an idiotic place to be and he can have little complaint imo about getting hit.

Would it be fair game for a camera man to be on the front line in a war right in between the soilders and expect not to get shot or blown up... No it wouldn't.

pgj2015 · 07-02-2016 2:10pm

fair play to the Guards, they did a great job, bloddy hippies causing trouble as usual.

RTE cameraman attacked by Gardai

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