RTE cameraman attacked by Gardai

Buffman · 07-02-2016 03:20AM

sdanseo wrote: »

Side note - the last person the Garda strikes - where he charges forward out of the line completely - seems to have been provoked off camera and the impact also occurs off camera. Hard to say whether or not something is justified when you can't see half of it.

The RTE footage shows the last person G103 hits is actually the RTE camera man. As he attempts to hit other people he trips and appears to inadvertently make contact with a females chest area. He's then pulled back.

http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/nine-news-30003250/10527178/
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B.A._Baracus · 07-02-2016 03:20AM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Oh I read what you were saying, that guards who have a very tough job keeping violent republicans in line should tie one hand behind their back and let them shut down a protest.

Nice try. I give your cover up an 8/10.
I liked how you brushed over what I mentioned (or should I say, caught you up on) then directed the conversation to how the members of the gardai have a hard battle dealing with protests. Hoping I would take the bait and not focus on your cock-up and reply with "general point" you raised.

Seriously, it's worth an 8/10. Have you ever thought about getting into politics?

Luke92 · 07-02-2016 03:20AM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

The man was given a legitimate order to step back, an order the guards have a right to impose. The man ignored the order multiple times and the guard in question used physical force to impose compliance, that's the bottom line. No laws were broken had the cameraman did what he was told there wouldn't be a problem.

Some people never learn to respect authority and end up suffering their whole lives for it.

Cameraman was atleast 5 feet away back turned and walking away from the line (following the guards directions).

At the end of the day he is a cameraman. For a national channel. He isn't a protestor and he is not disturbing the peace in any way.

He does not provoke the guard at any time. Yet he was hit twice by the same guard.

Your argument really is invalid.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 07-02-2016 03:35AM

So many people seem to want a police state, yet if we ever become a police state, the same peope will be wondering how the hell that happened.

There's plenty of wrong in that video, from all sides. From what I seen, people were getting hit as they were moving away, so they were following the instructions and still getting a beating.

Protestors were wrong for going after the Pegida chaps too, such hypocrits, but they don't see it this way at all. I wouldn't like to have been in the area when this kicked off. Innocent people get caught up in these clashes too, wrong place, wrong time. That's not right either.

People think the Gardai are soft in this country, but only when compared to some of the lunatics in the police force in USA. A crack of a batton would change your opinion on that fairly lively.

07-02-2016 03:41AM

What sort of an idiot hits an RTE cameraman? Tells you all you need to know about the guard. Thinks he answers to no-one.

Same airhead dopes parroting away in here though. Critical thinking has never been the strong suit of some.

kneemos · 07-02-2016 03:46AM

Luke92 wrote: »

Cameraman was atleast 5 feet away back turned and walking away from the line (following the guards directions).

At the end of the day he is a cameraman. For a national channel. He isn't a protestor and he is not disturbing the peace in any way.

He does not provoke the guard at any time. Yet he was hit twice by the same guard.

Your argument really is invalid.

You'd want to watch that oul video again chap.

Gatling · 07-02-2016 03:48AM

sdanseo wrote: »

I'm no constitutional lawyer, but I'd say one mob chasing another mob down North Earl Street is slightly outside the meaning of "peaceful assembly", wouldn't you?

Exactly.

The funny part was pro immigrants groups chasing apparently eastern European looking males who might look part of this group into a shop ,With one thing in mind watch the videos on the rte website and you can see and hear what's hhappening in the moments before the gardai arrive on scene.

Disgruntled Badger · 07-02-2016 03:49AM

Anti fascist.?. Lol. walks like a duck.....

Easca Peasca · 07-02-2016 03:50AM

I'm usually very much in support of Gardaí applying the baton to unruly crowds of idiots who go halfway to meet it, but the case of this cameraman is different. He should never have gotten a thump. Can't say the same for many of the people around him, however.

STB. · 07-02-2016 03:52AM

sdanseo wrote: »

The cameraman is seen in that video to be making an absolute nuisance of himself, getting right into the scuffle and refusing to move back despite the shouting of Gardaí lawfully ordering him to.

Again - if you put yourself in that scenario, you deserve a whack of the baton. No two ways about that in my opinion.

He was there in shot for about 30 seconds.

I can see how someone who did not want press there would see him as a nuisance as he is capturing it all on camera.

Again, if I did put myself in that scenario of being an RTE press cameraman, doing my everyday job, reporting news I would expect to be able to do that without harassment.

I would hope that the police realise that I am not part of this protest and that the large broadcast camera and press badge gives that away.

I would expect to be treated with respect, having moved back. Having retreated, I would not expect to be run at and attacked by a policeman who is 10ft away from me and to whom I am causing no harm.

I would expect that the police realise that I have limited mobility due to having a heavy camera on my shoulder.

Finally, I would expect that the police respect the freedom of the press.

I suggest you go back and look over the extensive video footage before you keep quoting obeyance of the law/police direction. Its a very narrow minded and conformist view you are taking that the police can do what they wish.

joe swanson · 07-02-2016 04:01AM

Violent protesters directed to move back ob numerous occasions. They didnt. Batons were drawn. Camera man right in thick of it failed to move

sdanseo · 07-02-2016 04:04AM

STB. wrote: »

He was there in shot for about 30 seconds.

I can see how someone who did not want press there would see him as a nuisance as he is capturing it all on camera.

Again, if I did put myself in that scenario of being an RTE press cameraman, doing my everyday job, reporting news I would expect to be able to do that without harassment.

I would hope that the police realise that I am not part of this protest and that the large broadcast camera and press badge gives that away.

I would expect to be treated with respect, having moved back. Having retreated, I would not expect to be run at and attacked by a policeman who is 10ft away from me and to whom I am causing no harm.

I would expect that the police realise that I have limited mobility due to having a heavy camera on my shoulder.

Finally, I would expect that the police respect the freedom of the press.

I suggest you go back and look over the extensive video footage before you keep quoting obeyance of the law/police direction. Its a very narrow minded and conformist view you are taking that the police can do what they wish.

Conformist? Oh, sorry. My apologies for having the courtesy not to behave like a twat in public. The cameraman is clearly seen getting in the way and obstructing Gardaí a few seconds before he's whacked, close to the middle of the street. He made an arse of himself and got stung. Boo hoo.

There's ways to protest peacefully and there's ways to behave like a lout. I'm all for the grey area (not as narrow minded as you think) but for me short of an armed rebellion either I'll protest peacefully or at the ballot box, not by making a tit of myself in front of a line of riot cops.

my friend · 07-02-2016 04:08AM

STB. wrote: »

He was there in shot for about 30 seconds.

I can see someone who did not want press there would see him as a nuisance as he is capturing it all on camera.

Again, if I did put myself in that scenario of being an RTE press cameraman, doing my everyday job, reporting news I would expect to be able to do that without harassment.

I would hope that the police realise that I am not part of this protest and that the large broadcast camera and press badge gives that away.

I would expect to be treated with respect, having moved back. Having retreated, I would not expect to be run at and attacked by a policeman who is 10ft away from me and to who I am causing no harm.

I would expect that the police realise that I have limited mobility due to having a heavy camera on my shoulder.

Finally, I would expect that the police respect the freedom of the press.

I suggest you go back and look over the extensive video footage before you keep quoting obeyance of the law/police direction. Its a very narrow minded and conformist view you are taking that the police can do what they wish.

I suggest you remove your red tinted glasses and view the video shown on RTE news Saturday night, when the anti pegida red socialist nazis chase those they assumed were pegida into the €2 euro shop they then proceed to shout and push (enforce) their 'no cameras' rule

Cameraman was bundled out of the shop by the socialist nazis - this is an incontestable fact. Watch the news bulletin.

Whiney lefty nazi red socialists then proceeded to assault members of the public within that store but conveniently they banished camera 'man' and other cameras - roaring that this be actioned

The general public are now very wise to the fascist tactics employed by the Irish hard left today

'No cameras' when lefties commit crimes - 'all cameras out' when goading and disobeying Gardai

Also give up on your oppression of the press malarkey it holds no water, the only crimes where the press were excluded from today were the crime scenes as such that I described above

STB. · 07-02-2016 04:13AM

sdanseo wrote: »

Conformist? Oh, sorry. My apologies for having the courtesy not to behave like a twat in public. The cameraman is clearly seen getting in the way and obstructing Gardaí a few seconds before he's whacked, close to the middle of the street. He made an arse of himself and got stung. Boo hoo.

There's ways to protest peacefully and there's ways to behave like a lout. I'm all for the grey area (not as narrow minded as you think) but for me short of an armed rebellion either I'll protest peacefully or at the ballot box, not by making a tit of myself in front of a line of riot cops.

You seem to be confusing that someone doing their job as a member of the press and the protestors themselves are the one and the same! Seriously ?

The press have every right to be able to do their job without harassment or police abuse. Give that this particular cameraman had stepped back, he should not have been attacked by this one particular policeman in question.

You may regard that as acting the twat, being a tit or that he made an arse of himself doing his job. Unfortunately for the guards he wasn't a protestor, he was a reporter for the national broadcaster.

If you still haven't seen that from the 4 videos, then you need your eyes tested.

STB. · 07-02-2016 04:18AM

my friend wrote: »

I suggest you remove your red tinted glasses and view the video shown on RTE news Saturday night, when the anti pegida red socialist nazis chase those they assumed were pegida into the €2 euro shop they then proceed to shout and push (enforce) their 'no cameras' rule

Cameraman was bundled out of the shop by the socialist nazis - this is an incontestable fact. Watch the news bulletin.

Whiney lefty nazi red socialists then proceeded to assault members of the public within that store but conveniently they banished camera 'man' and other cameras - roaring that this be actioned

The general public are now very wise to the fascist tactics employed by the Irish hard left today

'No cameras' when lefties commit crimes - 'all cameras out' when goading and disobeying Gardai

Also give up on your oppression of the press malarkey it holds no water, the only crimes where the press were excluded from today were the crime scenes as such that I described above

ALL of which has no bearance whatsoever on the assault of an RTE cameraman which will no doubt be the subject of an ombudsman complaint by RTE.

TheLastMohican · 07-02-2016 04:20AM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

The video as always is only showing one side of the clash. The crowd are as rough as a badgers arse with one lad goading the gardai.

If I was in a crowd like that and got a wallop I would have it coming to me.

Fair enough, he gives the camera a fair whack which he probably shouldn't, but the crowd are being absolute gowls.
'Get off our street, gardai scum'.
Ya, seems like a wise idea for a society.

Few of those lads deserve to have the chops slapped off them. Peaceful protest me hole.

You're mother must be really proud of you.

kneemos · 07-02-2016 04:20AM

STB. wrote: »

You seem to be confusing that someone doing their job as a member of the press and the protestors themselves are the one and the same! Seriously ?

The press have every right to be able to do their job without harassment or police abuse. Give that this particular cameraman had stepped back, he should not have been attacked by this one particular policeman in question.

You may regard that as acting the twat, being a tit or that he made an arse of himself doing his job. Unfortunately for the guards he wasn't a protestor, he was a reporter for the national broadcaster.

If you still haven't seen that from the 4 videos, then you need your eyes tested.

He was in the front of an angry mob with no ID that I could see.
His camera was hit and he still moved forward and got another smack on the front of his right leg.
Guards had a line to keep,get the **** out of the way.

TheLastMohican · 07-02-2016 04:22AM

kneemos wrote: »

He was in the front of an angry mob with no ID that I could see.
His camera was hit and he still moved forward and got another smack on the front of his right leg.
Guards had a line to keep,get the **** out of the way.

Are the gardai not supposed to use their heads? Or has the cavity been drained in Templemore?

kneemos · 07-02-2016 04:31AM

TheLastMohican wrote: »

Are the gardai not supposed to use their heads? Or has the cavity been drained in Templemore?

Without ID how would they know who he was?He had a professional looking camera in fairness,but so could anyone.
Crap position to be in anyway,what could he see from there only a line of Guards.

STB. · 07-02-2016 04:32AM

kneemos wrote: »

He was in the front of an angry mob with no ID that I could see.
His camera was hit and he still moved forward and got another smack on the front of his right leg.
Guards had a line to keep,get the **** out of the way.

Which line is that ? Tell you what lets draws a line under the whole issue. This is the line the guard broke as he stepped forward and assaulted the RTE cameraman, from what I can see.

kneemos · 07-02-2016 04:38AM

STB. wrote: »

Which line is that ? Tell you what lets draws a line under the whole issue. This is the line the guard broke as he stepped forward and assaulted the RTE cameraman, from what I can see.

Shouldn't be at the front of an angry mob then.

STB. · 07-02-2016 05:04AM

kneemos wrote: »

Shouldn't be at the front of an angry mob then.

I wouldn't call them a mob, it only seemed to be one angry guard.

Adieu.

galljga1 · 07-02-2016 05:33AM

All I wanted was a Whopper, ya fcuking freestate b@stdard.

The_Valeyard · 07-02-2016 07:34AM

The Valentines Day rush has started early this year.

07-02-2016 07:44AM

No excuse for hitting a camera which I'm guessing was quite a large one that stood out. The guard in question should have been in more control m

Belt away at the others no problem.

Greentopia · 07-02-2016 07:56AM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

The sad thing is nearly every time you read about facists and anti-facist protesters, its the Anti-Fa ones that always seem to be the ones that are actually involved in violence. Strange because using violence to achieve ones political aims is normally associated with what ideology (spot quiz )

Violence against ordinary citizens? not in my experience being on the ANTIFA side.

Luke92 · 07-02-2016 08:12AM

kneemos wrote: »

He had a professional looking camera in fairness,but so could anyone.

That's a bit delusional. "So could anyone"? Is this a new thing? Protesters carrying huge, heavy, worth thousands of euro cameras.

He's definitely a professional cameraman and not an undercover protestor.

07-02-2016 08:13AM

Whatever about the Garda, Section 8 of the Public Order Act, whether camera men should be given some special status etc...this is just...comedy gold!

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=913561958751080&id=912549568852319

07-02-2016 08:13AM

Whatever about the Garda, Section 8 of the Public Order Act, whether camera men should be given some special status etc...this is just...comedy gold!

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=913561958751080&id=912549568852319

Luke92 · 07-02-2016 08:21AM

kneemos wrote: »

You'd want to watch that oul video again chap.

Which hit are we talking about? Where he hits the camera or where he hits the cameraman in the legs. I'm talking about the leg incident.

No matter how many times I watch it I see the same thing.

He's right in the middle of it. Moves or is shoved a good 5 feet away. When the guard violently lunges off the line to strike him in the leg. I'm watching a clip with a side view. And you see the cameraman walking backward and also someone out of shot has a hold of his jacket slowly walking him back too.

I think you should probably watch it a few more times if you missed all that the first few go's. Pause, rewind and keep doing that until you see what actually happens.

RTE cameraman attacked by Gardai

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