Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

Mebuntu · 15-09-2019 10:40am

Strumms wrote: »

Basically for the PR Aer Lingus would get

PR? I don't get it.

I doubt there is anyone out there who would be influenced to choose to fly with Airline X just because they saw a photo of Team Y or Celebrity Z getting onboard.

LXFlyer · 15-09-2019 11:21am

Mebuntu wrote: »

PR? I don't get it.

I doubt there is anyone out there who would be influenced to choose to fly with Airline X just because they saw a photo of Team Y or Celebrity Z getting onboard.

So why do Aer Lingus and for example QANTAS bother sponsoring the rugby teams at all then?

MJohnston · 15-09-2019 11:36am

Their sponsorship obviously has *some* positive effects, otherwise they (probably) wouldn't waste the money, but they're probably not for the benefit of Irish people. I'd say it has more about hitting the audience on the other side of the trips - London, Chicago, Paris, or wherever. Which would make it completely pointless for Aer Lingus to fly the team to a destination country that they don't normally fly to.

Locker10a · 15-09-2019 11:43am

Mebuntu wrote: »

PR? I don't get it.

I doubt there is anyone out there who would be influenced to choose to fly with Airline X just because they saw a photo of Team Y or Celebrity Z getting onboard.

Why would any large company sponsor any sports club/team or any other event for that matter!? It creates brand awareness, it’s marketing, advertising and helps the brand become recognisable.

Mebuntu · 15-09-2019 3:25pm

Locker10a wrote: »

Why would any large company sponsor any sports club/team or any other event for that matter!? It creates brand awareness, it’s marketing, advertising and helps the brand become recognisable.

I wasn't talking about advertising as a policy.

Part of the discussion on here is about whether Aer Lingus might have "missed an opportunity" of good PR by not flying the team all the way to Japan. I'm simply saying that, imho, nobody really cares whether they did or did not and would not be influenced by the photocall. It would not come into the equation at all when people are buying tickets.

LXFlyer · 15-09-2019 3:32pm

Mebuntu wrote: »

I wasn't talking about advertising as a policy.

Part of the discussion on here is about whether Aer Lingus might have "missed an opportunity" of good PR by not flying the team all the way to Japan. I'm simply saying that, imho, nobody really cares whether they did or did not and would not be influenced by the photocall. It would not come into the equation at all when people are buying tickets.

Maybe not for YOU, but you're making some very sweeping statements about everyone else - clearly it may influence some people. They wouldn't do it otherwise.

We are all different. Applying your personal preferences as the same as everyone else is very presumptive.

Tenger · 15-09-2019 3:46pm

Corporate tie-is like this are hard to quantify. Obviously EI have done the maths and feel it is worth it for them.

Whether it influences customer choice is hard to say, but it's also hard to say it that doesn't. Different ppl are influenced by different things. Personally I'm shocked that my 3 sisters who are working professionals are influenced by recommendations by certain Instagram "influencers".

The IRFU deal may make EI a more premium option in certain ppls eyes.
And the images of the team leaving Dublin were certainly given a lot of social media coverage on the day.

Jack1985 · 16-09-2019 2:24pm

lfc200 wrote: »

What is the general uptake like for it?
I was on my usual Heathrow - Cork flight last night and the Aer space seats at the front were all empty

As I said targetated routes. Your experience on one particular flight is not reflective of the new class of travel overall.

L1011 · 16-09-2019 4:27pm

EI and DAA staff definitely need to be given more info on AerSpace. Fast track staff unaware, lounge staff not sure, onboard staff not sure about the food entitlement.

California Dreamer · 16-09-2019 4:51pm

Outside of an Airbus Jumbo Jet 737 that Joe Public sees do they have any real knowledge or really care who is taking the Irish rugby team anywhere?

liiga · 18-09-2019 10:51pm

Is A321neo ei-lrb still due TOMMORROW

flange888 · 18-09-2019 10:54pm

liiga wrote:

Is A321neo ei-lrb still due TOMMORROW

Nope...most likely Tuesday

liiga · 18-09-2019 11:11pm

flange888 wrote: »

liiga wrote:

Is A321neo ei-lrb still due TOMMORROW

Nope...most likely Tuesday

Okay ðŸ‘

Van.Bosch · 19-09-2019 8:57am

When is it going into service? There was a list a while back but can’t find it. Is it going to do the MSP route?

Locker10a · 19-09-2019 8:59am

When does SNN get the a321neo ? And anyone know will there be a new route ex SNN as the NEO is going to do the early LHR rotation leaving the regular 320 free in the morning?

LXFlyer · 19-09-2019 11:31am

No confirmation of any new route out of SNN as of yet.

Van.Bosch · 19-09-2019 12:01pm

LXFlyer wrote: »

No confirmation of any new route out of SNN as of yet.

It would be a pretty small window too right? So options would be limited.

JCX BXC · 19-09-2019 12:10pm

Van.Bosch wrote: »

It would be a pretty small window too right? So options would be limited.

Anything that could be back by 11:45am, so a flight leaving around 6am shouldn't have too small a range.

kevinandrew · 19-09-2019 3:15pm

Van.Bosch wrote: »

When is it going into service? There was a list a while back but can’t find it. Is it going to do the MSP route?

MSP is down as a 5 weekly A332 service next summer so doesn’t look like it’s going there anytime soon.

The last update from Routes Online;

SNN-BOS 27OCT19
DUB-IAD 29OCT19
DUB-PHL 01NOV19

This is from the June update so is possibly out of date.

The next A321LR route is still over a month away so EI-LRB will either join EI-LRA on Hartford or sit in the hanger for a few weeks.

Locker10a · 19-09-2019 3:39pm

Van.Bosch wrote: »

It would be a pretty small window too right? So options would be limited.

They could technically fit in a MAD/BCN to tie into IAG connections, BCN could also serve as a leisure route.
Possibly a German or French city too

kevinandrew · 19-09-2019 3:58pm

The second A321LR is currently on its first test flight after completing its taxi and RTO tests this morning.

Looks like it’s west of Berlin at the moment and heading back north towards Hamburg.

x567 · 19-09-2019 4:20pm

Locker10a wrote: »

They could technically fit in a MAD/BCN to tie into IAG connections, BCN could also serve as a leisure route.
Possibly a German or French city too

My guess would be either another UK destination to try to feed their T/A flights - maybe LGW or Manchester - albeit that both have competition on the routes already and LGW might cannibalise their own LHR demand; or a near-ish sunshine route. BCN or MAD would be lovely though...

HTCOne · 19-09-2019 4:31pm

x567 wrote: »

My guess would be either another UK destination to try to feed their T/A flights - maybe LGW or Manchester - albeit that both have competition on the routes already and LGW might cannibalise their own LHR demand; or a near-ish sunshine route. BCN or MAD would be lovely though...

I’d think they’d want to fill the J cabin, best way to do that is transfers. Uf they even launch a new route at all I’d guess CDG.

Van.Bosch · 19-09-2019 5:27pm

Locker10a wrote: »

They could technically fit in a MAD/BCN to tie into IAG connections, BCN could also serve as a leisure route.
Possibly a German or French city too

But the A321LR is going to do Heathrow, which frees up the A320. So the gap is only for a LHR sector length, unless there was a buffer in its schedule to begin with?

Locker10a · 19-09-2019 5:41pm

Van.Bosch wrote: »

But the A321LR is going to do Heathrow, which frees up the A320. So the gap is only for a LHR sector length, unless there was a buffer in its schedule to begin with?

The first LHR departs SNN at 7:30am, I’d they set a 6am departure like they do in DUB and ORK bases they’d have an extra 90mins to go further.

LXFlyer · 19-09-2019 5:43pm

Van.Bosch wrote: »

But the A321LR is going to do Heathrow, which frees up the A320. So the gap is only for a LHR sector length, unless there was a buffer in its schedule to begin with?

Completely incorrect.

There is plenty of room for a longer flight.

Look at when the first flight from Shannon to Heathrow departs - it’s dictated by the slots at Heathrow and is substantially later than an alternative flight would need to be.

Van.Bosch · 19-09-2019 6:14pm

LXFlyer wrote: »

Completely incorrect.

There is plenty of room for a longer flight.

Look at when the first flight from Shannon to Heathrow departs - it’s dictated by the slots at Heathrow and is substantially later than an alternative flight would need to be.

So “completely incorrect” is a bit harsh! I said unless there is a buffer in the schedule already, which there is.

liiga · 19-09-2019 7:25pm

It might do the first London Heathrow flight on 1st October

LXFlyer · 19-09-2019 7:31pm

Van.Bosch wrote: »

So “completely incorrect” is a bit harsh! I said unless there is a buffer in the schedule already, which there is.

Fair enough but to be fair it had already been mentioned that it would need to be back by about 11:45. By any measure that leaves room to go a lot further than LHR!

Jack1985 · 19-09-2019 7:39pm

The intention is to use the 320 in SNN to do FAO/AGP in the morn with the later LHR’s in the afternoon freeing up room for capacity growth out of DUB and ORK.

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