Carl Froch vs George Groves

Henno30 · 23-11-2013 1:29pm

I haven't been able to follow too much of the build up for this but has Froch been a right dickhead? I'm seemingly one of the few people who actually likes Froch but I'm feeling even more isolated than usual this time.

gordongekko · 23-11-2013 1:36pm

The program starts at 6 and idea what time the main event is due to start?

walshb · 23-11-2013 1:36pm

He got the cheers from the crowd at weigh-in. Groves is disliked by the majority of the fans.

It's a dangerous fight for Froch. He loses, and it really damages his legacy. He wins ugly and he will be criticised. He needs a solid win here.

When I first heard the fight was on I thought Groves was well out of his depth. But now I think he could causes some problems. IF his chin holds and is able to take what Froch can dish out then George has a good chance to make this a close fight.

Henno30 · 23-11-2013 1:44pm

walshb wrote: »

He got the cheers from the crowd at weigh-in. Groves is disliked by the majority of the fans.

It's a dangerous fight for Froch. He loses, and it really damages his legacy. He wins ugly and he will be criticised. He needs a solid win here.

When I first heard the fight was on I thought Groves was well out of his depth. But now I think he could causes some problems. IF his chin holds and is able to take what Froch can dish out then George has a good chance to make this a close fight.

You think Froch will struggle to get to him?

walshb · 23-11-2013 2:18pm

Henno30 wrote: »

You think Froch will struggle to get to him?

That's what I am thinking. Froch is not some bulldozer. He can be quite patient, and he likes a foe to come to him a bit more. George won't press it much. George will be very slippy, cautious and sneaky. Pot shotting from mid range.

Froch I feel will be forced to be the aggressor, moving forward and throwing, which I think will lessen the power of his shots, as George will be riding them somewhat! Of course, George has to engage, but if he can engage in a clever and counter punching way then maybe his chin can avoid real flush shots.

supersean1999 · 23-11-2013 2:31pm

Henno30 wrote: »

I haven't been able to follow too much of the build up for this but has Froch been a right dickhead? I'm seemingly one of the few people who actually likes Froch but I'm feeling even more isolated than usual this time.

He is getting over cocky now and arrogant. And he has actually believed the hype job sky have done on him. I used to have a bit of time for him but he does my head in now. I hear this talk about What a tough run of fights he has had. Yusuf mack. Johnson. A poor super middle weight in Abraham. A washed up middle weight in Taylor. Were hardly fights he Would be expected to lose Add Also If he fought the kessler that fought calzaghe he Would of got badly beaten like he did against ward. . I dont buy into him and never will.

megadodge · 23-11-2013 5:16pm

Henno30 wrote: »

I haven't been able to follow too much of the build up for this but has Froch been a right dickhead? I'm seemingly one of the few people who actually likes Froch but I'm feeling even more isolated than usual this time.

Froch has been a dickhead??? Groves has covered himself in ridicule for the patheticly childish way he has been acting in the buildup. And the funny thing is, when he fought DeGale he won a lot of admirers in the cool, calm way he behaved when DeGale was being a gobsh!te.

Despite the fact that I really think Groves can give Froch a lot of problems, I really hope Carl beats him. From the general feeling around at the moment, most boxing fans seem on Froch's side. Froch is a straightforward, honest type of person. The type of person I like.

Kerrydude1981 · 23-11-2013 6:17pm

Roughly what time is Andy Lee on?

supersean1999 · 23-11-2013 6:19pm

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Roughly what time is Andy Lee on?

Did you read any of the thread , maybe check page 9

Kerrydude1981 · 23-11-2013 6:21pm

supersean1999 wrote: »

Did you read any of the thread , maybe check page 9

No just decided to jump in here,cheers pointing that out.

Looks like il be on a highstool so watching him.

supersean1999 · 23-11-2013 7:01pm

Let the show begin,

supersean1999 · 23-11-2013 7:04pm

6-7 free on sky box office so if you have not it on should get a fight in

Too Tough To Die · 23-11-2013 7:35pm

Anyone know what time the main event starts?

Pudsy33 · 23-11-2013 7:49pm

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Anyone know what time the main event starts?

10 30- 11

beggars_bush · 23-11-2013 8:37pm

any channel streaming this PPV fight?

liam7831 · 23-11-2013 9:02pm

Watchin Luke Campbell here now, god bless the net was gonna get it on sky but like €21;95

megadodge · 23-11-2013 9:02pm

pac_man wrote: »

I wish they had Richie Woodhall commentating on this, he seems to be the only one that will talk about a fight from a technical viewpoint. Nick Halling is terrible and Jim Watt loves a cliche.

I agree on the technical side, but he is terribly biased towards UK fighters. There's absolutely no objectivity whatsoever. Always believes beforehand that the UK fighter will win, irrespective of opposition. But obviously that won't be an issue in this fight.

For what it's worth, I like Jim Watt.

supersean1999 · 23-11-2013 9:07pm

liam7831 wrote: »

Watchin Luke Campbell here now, god bless the net was gonna get it on sky but like €21;95

A woeful Match up

liam7831 · 23-11-2013 9:10pm

Ya brutal but I suppose they did just pick up this fella from the street yesterday

gene_tunney · 23-11-2013 9:10pm

Jim "Arrrrum Punches" Watt is clueless. Campbell is a hypejob

liam7831 · 23-11-2013 9:20pm

I cant stand that other clown constantly trying to get on camera

megadodge · 23-11-2013 9:31pm

gene_tunney wrote: »

Jim "Arrrrum Punches" Watt is clueless. Campbell is a hypejob

Aaaaaah, back to normal again. I was worried there when you posted a few posts that didn't include the word "overrated" or "hypejob". I thought somebody hijacked your account.

How the hell you can decide a very deserving Olympic champion (along with European champ and World silver medalist) who is only in his 4th pro fight is a "hypejob" is beyond me. He has done what's expected against poor opposition so far and whenever he steps up we'll see what he's made of, but to write him off already just shows your negativity and pessimism knows no bounds.

megadodge · 23-11-2013 9:33pm

pac_man wrote: »

Yeah I agree with you there, he is a bit biased,cringy in the Olympics. Just think the American networks are streets ahead on this regard, Jones and Malignaggi offer a bit more analysis and steward when he was alive. I miss his stuff.

I love listening to Jones analysis. He's so sharp and offers an articulate, knowledgable perspective you don't normally get from analysts. Malignaggi could go on to be the very best analyst yet on the little I've seen of him so far. Very knowledgable on even the most obscure fighters.

gene_tunney · 23-11-2013 9:45pm

pac_man wrote: »

Think its a bit early to be calling him a hypejob after one ordinary performance.

Actually I was calling him a hypejob after his last fight a few weeks ago.

megadodge wrote: »

How the hell you can decide a very deserving Olympic champion (along with European champ and World silver medalist) who is only in his 4th pro fight is a "hypejob" is beyond me. He has done what's expected against poor opposition so far and whenever he steps up we'll see what he's made of, but to write him off already just shows your negativity and pessimism knows no bounds.

A hypejob is a fighter who is overhyped. Campbell is obviously very good, otherwise he wouldn't have won gold, but he isn't as good as the sky sports guys think. I don't think his style suits the pro game and I don't think he will be the big deal that people anticipate.

Andrew Flexing · 23-11-2013 9:50pm

wonder if they commentators label Lee as British when he is on, like Glenn McCrory did before

Froch to win with late KO

megadodge · 23-11-2013 9:59pm

gene_tunney wrote: »

Actually I was calling him a hypejob after his last fight a few weeks ago.

A hypejob is a fighter who is overhyped. Campbell is obviously very good, otherwise he wouldn't have won gold, but he isn't as good as the sky sports guys think. I don't think his style suits the pro game and I don't think he will be the big deal that people anticipate.

In what way?
Genuine question.

Too Tough To Die · 23-11-2013 10:13pm

Somebody pm me please.

megadodge · 23-11-2013 10:15pm

Jesus, in the first 30 seconds Andy has already got clearly clipped 3 times.

liam7831 · 23-11-2013 10:18pm

This fella is dog rough

unknown13 · 23-11-2013 10:18pm

Jim Watt's commentary has been appalling already.

Andrew Flexing · 23-11-2013 10:18pm

Lee taken a few shots! if that was decent opposition I wonder if he would be able to take them...

megadodge · 23-11-2013 10:20pm

While Lee's knockdown punches were all impressive, the fact that such an ordinary opponent could hit him so easily is a serious worry.

liam7831 · 23-11-2013 10:20pm

Nice

megadodge · 23-11-2013 10:21pm

unknown13 wrote: »

Jim Watt's commentary has been appalling already.

In what way?

liam7831 · 23-11-2013 10:21pm

The main event would wanna be quality cos the undercard is full of crap fights

Andrew Flexing · 23-11-2013 10:21pm

Bloody commentators calling Lee on of "our top middleweights"...typical brits

colly10 · 23-11-2013 10:26pm

Is the main event after the quigg fight?

Andrew Flexing · 23-11-2013 10:27pm

think so yep

Kerrydude1981 · 23-11-2013 10:27pm

Be interesting to see what's next in line for Lee.

Sky boys talking him taking on Macklin on Paddys Day,that would be a sell out

Andrew Flexing · 23-11-2013 10:31pm

reckon they'd have that fight here or in UK?

Felexicon · 23-11-2013 10:34pm

Good show from Lee there. Did what was needed but bigger fights are next. Think I've heard him say Macklin doesn't want to fight him because he knows Lee would beat him

Andrew Flexing · 23-11-2013 10:36pm

Wish John Duddy would come back Ireland has some great fighters...could have a great few home based fights with our own lads...

billy2012 · 23-11-2013 10:36pm

What time is the fight?

blade1 · 23-11-2013 10:36pm

Felexicon wrote: »

Good show from Lee there. Did what was needed but bigger fights are next. Think I've heard him say Macklin doesn't want to fight him because he knows Lee would beat him

What round did it finish?

blade1 · 23-11-2013 10:37pm

billy2012 wrote: »

What time is the fight?

Probably 11ish

Take Your Pants Off · 23-11-2013 10:37pm

So who is watching the match on sky box office ??

liam7831 · 23-11-2013 10:37pm

Round 2 ko

Too Tough To Die · 23-11-2013 10:40pm

Who isn't watching on sky box office? i'd like to hear from you.

Kerrydude1981 · 23-11-2013 10:44pm

Take Your Pants Off wrote: »

So who is watching the match on sky box office ??

What this Sky Box Office you speak about?

supersean1999 · 23-11-2013 10:46pm

What Sort clown did quigg just fight . Dear god this is terrible

Carl Froch vs George Groves

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