Wearing a white Poppy

corner of hells · 13-10-2020 2:21pm

murpho999 wrote: »

No and I don't care if Irish people wear one their choice but I don't support providing funds to a foreign charity that supports ex soldiers in Britain.

My point is about people calling for Irish people to wear them or for Irish state to get behind the day when the point is that we have our own memorial day in July just like other countries have their own days.

Comparing to St Patrick's Day is ridiculous to be honest as it's a celebration or culture and heritage without political meanings or controversy or being asked to buy a symbol to support a charity.

Nobody is calling for Irish people to where a poppy nor for the government to get behind the day.

Yeah_Right · 13-10-2020 2:22pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

If someone from any one of those countries is living in or visiting Ireland then whats the problem with them wearing one. No one is forcing Irish people in Ireland to wear one.

Do you know anywhere in Dublin that sells them? Used to wear one on ANZAC Day back home.

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 2:23pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

When was the last time you were in Ireland and someone asked or expected you to have a "poppy day"?

Thanksgiving, veterans day, memorial day, these are all unique to the USA, Would you have an issue with an American living in Ireland celebrating any of those days?

Is that all you can do?
Scour the calendar for other irrelvant foreign events that do not involve symbolism or have a political background?

Where did I say that British people in Ireland should not wear the poppy?

That being said, I'm sure you know full well that the British army has a long history in Ireland and the poppy represent that and some people have difficulty with it.

The issue is not British people "celebrating" it but the notion that Ireland should be involved and that Irish people in Irelan should support the appeal.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-10-2020 2:23pm

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Do you know anywhere in Dublin that sells them? Used to wear one on ANZAC Day back home.

Not been in Ireland for a few years now but I used to buy off the RBL website and get them posted to me.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-10-2020 2:25pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Is that all you can do?
Scour the calendar for other irrelvant foreign events that do not involve symbolism or have a political background?

Where did I say that British people in Ireland should not wear the poppy?

That being said, I'm sure you know full well that the British army has a long history in Ireland and the poppy represent that and some people have difficulty with it.

The issue is not British people "celebrating" it but the notion that Ireland should be involved and that Irish people in Irelan should support the appeal.

Who has said Irish people "should support the appeal"? Who has even said Irish people should be any way involved?

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 2:25pm

corner of hells wrote: »

Nobody is calling for Irish people to where a poppy nor for the government to get behind the day.

So why are these threads here every year?

Why is Sentator Frank Feighan call for members of the Oireachtas to wear it (Link)

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-10-2020 2:26pm

murpho999 wrote: »

So why are these threads here every year?

Why is Sentator Frank Feighan call for members of the Oireachtas to wear it (Link)

Maybe ask the Irish people who start them every year that question?

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 2:27pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Who has said Irish people "should support the appeal"? Who has even said Irish people should be any way involved?

Well this thread is asking for Irish People to wear a white poppy as a compomise.

Maybe you should read the thread.

corner of hells · 13-10-2020 2:30pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Well this thread is asking for Irish People to wear a white poppy as a compomise.

Maybe you should read the thread.

Your posts are like a madmans ****e , all over the place.

breezy1985 · 13-10-2020 2:30pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

When was the last time you were in Ireland and someone asked or expected you to have a "poppy day"?

Thanksgiving, veterans day, memorial day, these are all unique to the USA, Would you have an issue with an American living in Ireland celebrating any of those days?

No one in Ireland is being forced or pushed into it. Ya there's a few politicians and others over the last few years jumping on it to look all evolves and whatever but it's nothing really.

But don't try pretend that you are stupid or naive enough to think the the British army and the US army have the same history in this country

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-10-2020 2:30pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Well this thread is asking for Irish People to wear a white poppy as a compomise.

Maybe you should read the thread.

I know what's your issue with .White popy?

Hamsterchops · 13-10-2020 2:34pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Well this thread is asking for Irish People to wear a white poppy as a compomise.

Never wore a white poppy myself, although I have no issues with it as it represents peace, which is good.

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 2:35pm

corner of hells wrote: »

Your posts are like a madmans ****e , all over the place.

Yea whatever, don't bother debating.

Good luck

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 2:36pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I know what's your issue with .White popy?

It's just a stupid idea.

Why is there call for a compromise when the colour of the poppy is not the problem?

Dav010 · 13-10-2020 2:38pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Is that all you can do?
Scour the calendar for other irrelvant foreign events that do not involve symbolism or have a political background?

Where did I say that British people in Ireland should not wear the poppy?

That being said, I'm sure you know full well that the British army has a long history in Ireland and the poppy represent that and some people have difficulty with it.

The issue is not British people "celebrating" it but the notion that Ireland should be involved and that Irish people in Irelan should support the appeal.

Must be Bigot day today.

I’m not aware of any Irish State sponsored push to get people to buy poppies or celebrate RD, is there one?

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 2:42pm

Dav010 wrote: »

Must be Bigot day today.

How on earth is anything I've said bigoted?

I'm pointing out that there's no need for Ireland to be involved with British remembrance day as we have our own memorial day just like other countries.

The way people twist things here is unreal.

breezy1985 · 13-10-2020 2:45pm

Dav010 wrote: »

Must be Bigot day today.

I’m not aware of any Irish State sponsored push to get people to buy poppies or celebrate RD, is there one?

It is. Are you not wearing your bigot day badge like the rest of us

Hamsterchops · 13-10-2020 2:45pm

murpho999 wrote: »

How on earth is anything I've said bigoted.

I'm pointing out that there's no need for Ireland to be involved with British remembrance day as we have our own memorial day just like other countries.

The way people twist things here is unreal.

My God some of your posts are so bitter and twisted, so who's your real hero, Lord Haw Haw or Sean Russell?

Gatling · 13-10-2020 2:49pm

I see Kilkenny unveiled a memorial to Thomas Joseph Woodgate who was 14 years old ,the youngest Irish casualties of ww1 the lad had lied about his age to join the royal army flying corp now RAF ,he lost his life aboard RMS Leinster along with 568 others after the ship was torpedoed by the Germans

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 2:57pm

Hamsterchops wrote: »

My God some of your posts are so bitter and twisted, so who's your real hero, Lord Haw Haw or Sean Russell?

Bitter & twisted but you make the jump of debating against the idea of people in Ireland wearing poppies just means that the person is a Nazi sympathiser.

Really getting ridiculous.

Dav010 · 13-10-2020 2:58pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

It is. Are you not wearing your bigot day badge like the rest of us

Sure am, cause I have a right to do so.

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 3:08pm

Gatling wrote: »

I see Kilkenny unveiled a memorial to Thomas Joseph Woodgate who was 14 years old ,the youngest Irish casualties of ww1 the lad had lied about his age to join the royal army flying corp now RAF ,he lost his life aboard RMS Leinster along with 568 others after the ship was torpedoed by the Germans

I saw that at the time on RTE. Link here

Tributes like that are correct and an important nod to history.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-10-2020 4:32pm

murpho999 wrote: »

It's just a stupid idea.

Why is there call for a compromise when the colour of the poppy is not the problem?

I've never even seen a white poppy, maybe ask the person who started the thread?

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-10-2020 4:34pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Bitter & twisted but you make the jump of debating against the idea of people in Ireland wearing poppies just means that the person is a Nazi sympathiser.

Really getting ridiculous.

Whats your issue? If you were walking down a street in Dublin/Cork/Limerick and seen someone wearing a poppy how would this affect you/your life?

cj maxx · 13-10-2020 4:38pm

Wearing any colour of poppy to commemorate war is jingoistic shyte. Leave it were it belongs, in the last century y

Dav010 · 13-10-2020 4:41pm

cj maxx wrote: »

Wearing any colour of poppy to commemorate war is jingoistic shyte. Leave it were it belongs, in the last century y

Along with opinions like this from people who think it is ok to tell others what they should support.

.anon. · 13-10-2020 4:43pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Whats your issue? If you were walking down a street in Dublin/Cork/Limerick and seen someone wearing a poppy how would this affect you/your life?

I would quietly think that person is a bit of a dickhead, wearing a symbol strongly associated with a military power that caused so much misery and bloodshed in this country.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-10-2020 4:47pm

.anon. wrote: »

I would quietly think that person is a bit of a dickhead, wearing a symbol strongly associated with a military power that caused so much misery and bloodshed in this country.

That would be your opinion and you would be entitled to hold that opinion.

breezy1985 · 13-10-2020 4:49pm

.anon. wrote: »

I would quietly think that person is a bit of a dickhead, wearing a symbol strongly associated with a military power that caused so much misery and bloodshed in this country.

Same here. I wouldn't get angry or upset but I would think the wearer made an insensitive choice and it's not something I would do if I was in a country with similar histories to UK/Ireland

If your aim is to commemorate all victims of all wars like the poppy claims to do then I think the best way to do that in Ireland is to not wear a symbol associated with a former occupational force.

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 4:57pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Whats your issue? If you were walking down a street in Dublin/Cork/Limerick and seen someone wearing a poppy how would this affect you/your life?

Why do you keep bringing it down to an individual level. I couldn't care if a person was wearing one. I would find it strange that an Irish person would buy one but that's their business.

I've been talking about at a national and official level but you don't want to see that and trying to make out that I'm against an individual.

Wearing a white Poppy

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