"Man Up" campaign by SafeIreland

silverharp · 09-06-2019 6:17pm

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1137759976418553857

iptba · 22-06-2019 3:48pm

Boris Johnson is trending and this is the top tweet:
https://twitter.com/JulieNicholas_/status/1142334356570161152

Nice to see the reference to "male violence" being challenged in lots of tweets
e.g.
https://twitter.com/Martin__Higgins/status/1142342781874163712

https://twitter.com/OYFtheBook/status/1142349234211086336
https://twitter.com/Petiti000/status/1142412315473711104

iptba · 23-06-2019 2:33pm

When one hears that feminists and organisations based on supporting only female victims of domestic violence sometimes train the police, this seems plausible though unlikely to be a strict rule https://twitter.com/daddyduwsf/status/1142494810802143232?s=21
I think poster is based in the UK.

iptba · 25-06-2019 7:29pm

"Women's Aid has been providing training for An Garda Síochána and we are seeing good responses. We hope that with these new units we'll have a higher level of awareness of the dynamics of domestic violence," she says.

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/lorraine-courtney-johnsons-neighbours-feared-for-someones-safety-of-course-they-had-to-call-the-police-38250544.html

I'm afraid I don't trust them to give unbiased training that domestic violence is often mutual and also is also female-on-male and to provide training for such scenarios.

...Ghost... · 27-06-2019 10:54am

iptba wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/lorraine-courtney-johnsons-neighbours-feared-for-someones-safety-of-course-they-had-to-call-the-police-38250544.html

I'm afraid I don't trust them to give unbiased training that domestic violence is often mutual and also is also female-on-male and to provide training for such scenarios.

Considering the strong bias we see time and again from Womens Aid, it is a sure bet that the training will be to believe the woman, no matter what.

If a man calls the Gardaí for help with domestic violence and they walk in on him laying on the floor in a pool of blood with knife in stomach and womans hand on knife, the instructions will be to arrest the man and comfort the woman. Womens Aid should NOT be involved in Garda training.

iptba · 13-07-2019 10:02pm

https://twitter.com/menhealuk/status/1149613184745033729

iptba · 20-07-2019 2:40pm

In the UK:

Press release

Increased jobcentre support for women experiencing domestic abuse

Every jobcentre in the UK will have a trained domestic abuse point of contact by the end of summer, Work and Pensions Secretary Amber Rudd will announce today.

Around 600 DWP staff across the UK are currently undergoing specialist training from expert organisation Women’s Aid. The newly assigned points of contact will be trained to identify and support the needs of anyone experiencing domestic abuse, and will work closely with local services to share knowledge and signpost women to additional, external support.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increased-jobcentre-support-for-women-experiencing-domestic-abuse

iptba · 09-08-2019 2:56am

I just came across the following which seems to be quite an important questionnaire:

https://www.ncjfcj.org/sites/default/files/Finding%20Your%20ACE%20Score.pdf

Adverse Childhood Experience (ACE) Questionnaire

7. Was your mother or stepmother: Often pushed, grabbed, slapped, or had something thrown at her? or Sometimes or often kicked, bitten, hit with a fist, or hit with something hard? or Ever repeatedly hit over at least a few minutes or threatened with a gun or knife? Yes No If yes enter 1 ________

Here is a comment I saw:

Laura says

June 13, 2018 at 6:53 pm

Number 7 is flawed because it only applies to those would witness their mothers being abused, but how about those who witnessed their father, sibling, grandparent, etc, being abused? My father was abused by my step-mother, and I had to endure watching her act violently to him, both physically and verbally. She has even kicked him out of his place several times during their relationship. I have also seen her abusing my brother too. Why is it only traumatic or horrifying when applying to one example of family abuse, but not the other. Hell, even if you were to want it to only apply to parents, then why not just say “witnessing a parent being treated violently by their partner”? It is things like this that keep people from taking the abuse my father endured seriously.

iptba · 03-09-2019 2:14pm

South Africans and women in particular, are becoming increasingly infuriated by the rampant violence being perpetrated against women and children.

Highlighting this anger, a petition calling on the death penalty for those committing crimes against women and children, have garnered almost 250000 signatures, in less than 24 hours.

https://www.colouredsa.co.za/ck/death-penalty-petition-for-crimes-against-women-gains-massive-support

H3llR4iser · 03-09-2019 4:51pm

iptba wrote: »

https://twitter.com/menhealuk/status/1149613184745033729

"Social media damages your reward systems. #Equality for men and women. #mentalhealth. #Suicide and #homelessness rates are 4 times higher for men."

And then...

"This account's Tweets are protected."

When you need a closed gate to guard your freedom to say the (factual and statistics backed) things in the first quote, it means something is profoundly wrong with people.

iptba · 04-09-2019 7:13pm

So looks like a a non-gender-neutral approach/initiative to tackle domestic violence in France:

What is being done?

The toll is increasingly catching the attention of French officials, who have begun taking more urgent steps to combat the trend. On Tuesday, the French government opened national debate in an effort to stamp out what some lawyers and prosecutors call femicide to underscore the particular nature of the crime. The term femicide was first coined in the 1970s to refer to gender-related killings. Femicide is not recognised in the French criminal code, but junior minister for gender equality Marlène Schiappa said recognition would be discussed in the coming weeks.

The consultation process started on Tuesday and is to continue until November 25th, International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women. Over the course of those 12 weeks, 91 conferences will take place across France to discuss how to prevent femicide, protect the victims and punish offenders. – New York Times

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/femicide-in-france-he-killed-me-she-said-with-her-dying-breath-1.4006943

Padraig Mor · 05-09-2019 11:37am

iptba wrote: »

So looks like a a non-gender-neutral approach/initiative to tackle domestic violence in France:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/femicide-in-france-he-killed-me-she-said-with-her-dying-breath-1.4006943

I'm taking from that that it's currently legal to kill your wife in France so? I mean, if they need to introduce a law against it, surely there isn't one already?

...Ghost... · 09-09-2019 10:27am

Padraig Mor wrote: »

I'm taking from that that it's currently legal to kill your wife in France so? I mean, if they need to introduce a law against it, surely there isn't one already?

The new femicide (my spell check won't even recognise the word :rolleyes: ) crime will double the number of jail years of a typical homicide and if it's a man committing femicide, he will be sentenced to the chair....and not just any chair, but the one below.
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If the man has any body hair, he will then be subjected to a whole different fate.

And it's not even April 1st.

LCTD · 12-09-2019 8:50am

Under the Dunedin studies project which is a mass study from birth in New Zealand, it was revealed that women are just as likely to abuse men in a relationship as the other way around, they said the study received a lot of criticism for revealing this...

FishOnABike · 12-09-2019 12:23pm

LCTD wrote: »

Under the Dunedin studies project which is a mass study from birth in New Zealand, it was revealed that women are just as likely to abuse men in a relationship as the other way around, they said the study received a lot of criticism for revealing this...

Not the first report to make the same finding. Domestic violence / intimate partner violence is not a gender based issue. It is about time we stopped treating it as such.

Neither of the two following recent articles even acknowledge the existance of male victims of domestic violence
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/call-for-garda-domestic-violence-training-949994.html
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/new-garda-unit-specialising-in-sexual-crimes-and-domestic-violence-to-open-in-west-cork-949700.html
Unfortunately this is typical of how domestic violence is viewed and represented represented in the media, further reinforcing this one sided view.

There should be no need for completely separate support systems for female and male domestic violence victims. There should just be domestic violence victim support services.l

Sporting organistations can be denied access to public funding if they discriminate based on sex or gender. Is it not about time that the government took proactive measures to ensure that domestic violence supports and shelters are available to all equally in a non discriminatory manner and if necessarry to engage in positive discrimination to redress the current imbalance in supports available.

Silentcorner · 12-09-2019 5:47pm

LCTD wrote: »

Under the Dunedin studies project which is a mass study from birth in New Zealand, it was revealed that women are just as likely to abuse men in a relationship as the other way around, they said the study received a lot of criticism for revealing this...

The feminist movement has seen to it that it (female on male abuse) is not even considered, it forms part of the central tenets of Feminism theory that suggests domestic abuse can only be male on female, it is consequence of patriarchal oppression ....I can't believe sometimes that we are living in a time as dark as this.

The feminists have even thrown their lesbian sisters under the bus...Lesbian relationships are way more abuse than gay relationships, how can the patriarchy be blamed for that?

Life-time prevalence of IPV in LGB couples appeared to be similar to or higher than in heterosexual ones: 61.1% of bisexual women, 43.8% of lesbian women, 37.3% of bisexual men, and 26.0% of homosexual men experienced IPV during their life, while 35.0% of heterosexual women and 29.0% of heterosexual men experienced IPV. When episodes of severe violence were considered, prevalence was similar or higher for LGB adults (bisexual women: 49.3%; lesbian women: 29.4%; homosexual men: 16.4%) compared to heterosexual adults (heterosexual women: 23.6%; heterosexual men: 13.9%)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6113571/

LCTD · 13-09-2019 10:18pm

I think with female to male it can take the form of psychological abuse much more and so be more difficult to verify, also with men less likely to report it for fear of not being believed. Historically certainly it was male to female abuse in relationships which was more prevalent but that has clearly changed...

iptba · 13-09-2019 10:33pm

LCTD wrote: »

I think with female to male it can take the form of psychological abuse much more and so be more difficult to verify, also with men less likely to report it for fear of not being believed. Historically certainly it was male to female abuse in relationships which was more prevalent but that has clearly changed...

I used to think that; now I'm left wondering what the situation really was.

Marcos · 14-09-2019 11:31am

Silentcorner wrote: »

The feminist movement has seen to it that it (female on male abuse) is not even considered, it forms part of the central tenets of Feminism theory that suggests domestic abuse can only be male on female, it is consequence of patriarchal oppression ....I can't believe sometimes that we are living in a time as dark as this.

The feminists have even thrown their lesbian sisters under the bus...Lesbian relationships are way more abuse than gay relationships, how can the patriarchy be blamed for that?

Life-time prevalence of IPV in LGB couples appeared to be similar to or higher than in heterosexual ones: 61.1% of bisexual women, 43.8% of lesbian women, 37.3% of bisexual men, and 26.0% of homosexual men experienced IPV during their life, while 35.0% of heterosexual women and 29.0% of heterosexual men experienced IPV. When episodes of severe violence were considered, prevalence was similar or higher for LGB adults (bisexual women: 49.3%; lesbian women: 29.4%; homosexual men: 16.4%) compared to heterosexual adults (heterosexual women: 23.6%; heterosexual men: 13.9%)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6113571/

Sheesh, have you learned nothing? It's internalised patriar misogyny

It isn't in any way a get out clause to avoid being able to blame men patriarchy for all the ills of the world. :rolleyes:

Much like "false consciousness" in Marxist arguments - the belief(s) people have that stop the development of a true socialist mindset, or really just a nice catch all get out clause when the theoretical model doesn't work.

Silentcorner · 14-09-2019 1:15pm

Well, we all know why The Woman's Council don't want to face up to the epidemic of abuse in lesbian relationships, currently funding for support services of female victims of male violence receive up to €20,000,000 every year from the Irish taxpayer, male victims of female violence/abuse receive just over €750,000, that is a staggering difference every year, this is most likely repeated all over the developed world....the feminists do not want to rock that boat by admitting that women abuse in just the same numbers as men.

Just read the first paragraph of the linked article.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/what-works-to-stop-gender-based-violence-and-what-doesn't-950704.html

The Woman's Council, and much of their international equivalents cannot be trusted to provide reliable data...the fact that they have so much influence is worrying, there is a price to pay for policies based on misrepresented data.

iptba · 14-09-2019 1:41pm

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well, we all know why The Woman's Council don't want to face up to the epidemic of abuse in lesbian relationships, currently funding for support services of female victims of male violence receive up to €20,000,000 every year from the Irish taxpayer, male victims of female violence/abuse receive just over €750,000, that is a staggering difference every year, this is most likely repeated all over the developed world....the feminists do not want to rock that boat by admitting that women abuse in just the same numbers as men.

Just read the first paragraph of the linked article.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/what-works-to-stop-gender-based-violence-and-what-doesn't-950704.html

The Woman's Council, and much of their international equivalents cannot be trusted to provide reliable data...the fact that they have so much influence is worrying, there is a price to pay for policies based on misrepresented data.

The link didn't work for me but this does.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/what-works-to-stop-gender-based-violence-and-what-doesnt-950704.html

I don't get the impression that the "gender equality training" that is referred to is gender neutral.

And the programs themselves don't seem very gender neutral: don't teach boys self-defence interventions but teach them how to de-escalate and intervene if they saw a girl being attacked! Cash transfers to girls and their families, etc.

3) Self-defence interventions for girls together with gender equality training for boys. These interventions taught girls self-defence, de-escalation techniques and how to identify safe spaces in their communities. Boys learned about gender equality and how to de-escalate and intervene if they saw a girl being attacked.

We found two interventions that showed mixed but promising effects in reducing exposure to gender-based violence.

These were gender equality education for boys without the self-defence component for girls, and cash transfers to girls and their families. These interventions showed some effectiveness but we only found a few studies.

LCTD · 14-09-2019 5:49pm

There was a link to another Examiner article from that above and near the end it says:

People always think of women too, when thats not the case, weve had messages from so many men, easily as much as women, and they are so embarrassed to come forward and say this is happening to me but I must be doing something wrong, I must be the abuser. Men are so often victims and no-one really talks about it.

I think a lot of men are made to feel they're in the wrong when it's the other way around, or worse even threatened with being reported to the authorities themselves if they try to say or do anything about it.

Silentcorner · 14-09-2019 6:17pm

LCTD wrote: »

There was a link to another Examiner article from that above and near the end it says:

People always think of women too, when thats not the case, weve had messages from so many men, easily as much as women, and they are so embarrassed to come forward and say this is happening to me but I must be doing something wrong, I must be the abuser. Men are so often victims and no-one really talks about it.

I think a lot of men are made to feel they're in the wrong when it's the other way around, or worse even threatened with being reported to the authorities themselves if they try to say or do anything about it.

Toxic female behaviour is unsurprisingly different to toxic male behaviour, women use passive aggressiveness and manipulation to dominate their partner, this is much harder to spot, not to mention financial abuse or parental alienation, the men themselves may have no idea that they are being abused, no body is speaking to those men, offering help.

It is the Feminist movement that systematically blocked any chance of further funding for male victims, Intimate Partner Violence/Abuse is not a gendered issue, although it does have different outcomes for both genders.

Weak willed politicians and a largely uninterested media don't help, but it is beyond doubt that both politicians and media are way out of step with ordinary society anyway so no surprises there, they are too busy paying attention to the twitter gallery!

LCTD · 17-09-2019 9:39am

Toxic female behaviour is unsurprisingly different to toxic male behaviour, women use passive aggressiveness and manipulation to dominate their partner.

I think this is much more common than reported, I know in my own relationships I've had to argue fiercely just to visit my family or have them come over, why I don't know... it's as if they're a threat to her power, while her family could meet us any time.

iptba · 12-10-2019 6:22pm

Last week’s demise of the White Ribbon charity is good news for schoolboys across Australia. For years now, White Ribbon has been out in our schools forcing little boys to renounce their violence. White Ribbon days talked not only about physical violence but males were also called out for emotional abuse. What a joke.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2019/10/teaching-girls-to-fear-boys/
(Written by a woman)

Christopher analyzed Keeping Safe, the mandatory child protection curriculum taught in all public schools in SA from kindergarten to year 12. We discuss the findings in my latest video, which is the first one I have made for my exciting new role as a contributor to Jordan Peterson’s new platform, thinkspot.

His research reveals systemic bias against boys. The curriculum provides 84 examples of males being aggressive to females (including child rape and abuse) and only one instance of a female aggressing against a male (looking in his room without permission). You can see examples here.

iptba · 12-10-2019 7:26pm

https://twitter.com/manumiss1on/status/1181555106224979968

py2006 · 13-10-2019 11:51am

Are the quoted stats backed up?

iptba · 13-10-2019 12:34pm

py2006 wrote: »

Are the quoted stats backed up?

The account put the following 2 tweets below them:

https://twitter.com/manumiss1on/status/1181555464389177344
https://twitter.com/manumiss1on/status/1181555607737917440

iptba · 19-10-2019 3:30pm

I happened to catch a bit of the Pat Kenny show yesterday (October 18) where they were talking about domestic abuse and sexual abuse and harassment and male victims:

https://www.newstalk.com/listen-back

45:52-49:27

Says that the Savi report of 17 years ago found that 29% of victims of sexual violence were male

A male victim talks: he says the system is not set up to support male victims, whether it be social workers, mental health professionals or the judicial system.

iptba · 18-11-2019 2:35am

https://www.fathers-4-justice.org/2019/11/f4j-say-violence-men-ignored-ahead-international-mens-day/

KEY FINDINGS
* F4J made 400 Freedom Of Information requests to councils across the UK.
* Just three confirmed they provide ‘refuge’ spaces for male victims of domestic abuse.
* Dozens of councils spend nothing on tackling domestic abuse against men.
* Majority of Councils have no specific programmes to cut male suicide rate.
* Out of 300 Local Authorities just 3 confirmed they had a total of 13 beds for male victims of DV.
* 18 councils spent £21 million of taxpayers money on services for women, but were unable to confirm any spending on men.
* Falkirk District Council spent more than £1 million pounds on domestic violence, with 96% spent on women and just 4% on men.
* Torfaen Council confirmed they spent £1,932,397 on women, but just £10,001.68 on men.
* Newport Council spent £2,405,022 on services for women and just £44,390 on services for men.

KEY MALE DOMESTIC ABUSE FACTS
* 1 in 3 Domestic Abuse victims are men. Crime Survey for England and Wales; year ending March 2018.
* Nearly 2,000 men every day are victims of Domestic Abuse (Every year 700,000 men are victims of Domestic Violence.) Crime Survey for England and Wales; year ending March 2018.
* Just 1 in 20 men report domestic abuse to the Police. Mankind 2018
* Because of social stigma, the way society treats male victims, and the fear of being labelled the perpetrator by Police, most men are too frightened to report DV and the issue is hugely underreported.

FATHERS4JUSTICE FACTS
* F4J have received three-quarters of a million enquiries for help since 2001.
* That equates to an enquiry for help every 15 minutes.
* F4J is the 3rd Highest supported campaign group in the UK after Greenpeace and Amnesty International.
* Over 90,000 families are registered supporters of Fathers4Justice in the UK.
* F4J have been involved in a number of high-profile custody cases including Kate Winslet, Madonna and Guy Ritchie, Katie Price, Myleene Klass and Lena Headey.
* The F4J team have over 60 years family court experience between them.
* Read more about the F4J campaign for a Minister for Men here: https://www.fathers-4-justice.org/2019/06/12044/

iptba · 18-11-2019 2:54pm

Kicking your partner out of the bed for the night (or longer) seems like a thing women do more to men than vice versa:

https://twitter.com/lala_lyds/status/1195852622030426115?s=21
https://twitter.com/lala_lyds/status/1195855193281384449?s=21
https://twitter.com/lala_lyds/status/1195856431733448707?s=21

iptba · 19-11-2019 6:53pm

Here's why the Irish team will be wearing white ribbons on Monday night
A global movement campaigning for an end to gender-based violence against women is underway.

https://www.the42.ie/heres-why-the-irish-team-will-be-wearing-white-ribbons-on-monday-night-4891788-Nov2019/?utm_source=shortlink

Balance would be the women's team wearing ribbons to highlight women's violence against men. I don't recall that happening previously in Ireland.

iptba · 19-11-2019 6:54pm

International Men's Days being used to highlight ... men's violence against women:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/international-men-s-day-2019-who-s-standing-up-for-men-these-days-1.4088026

I don't recall the reverse being highlighted on International Women's Day

iptba · 19-11-2019 9:02pm

https://twitter.com/Oneiorosgrip/status/1196863146666926080

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3175099/

The Helpseeking Experiences of Men Who Sustain Intimate Partner Violence: An Overlooked Population and Implications for Practice
Emily M. Douglas corresponding author and Denise A. Hines

Abstract

For over 30 years, research has shown that men can and do sustain intimate partner violence (IPV) from their female partners. This is the first large-scale, nationally-based, quantitative study to systematically detail the helpseeking experiences of men who have sustained IPV from their female partners. The sample is composed of 302 men who were recruited from resources specializing in men’s issues. Results indicate that men who seek help for IPV victimization have the most positive experiences in seeking help from family/friends, and mental health and medical providers. They have the least positive experiences with members of the DV service system. Cumulative positive helpseeking experiences were associated with lower levels of abusing alcohol; cumulative negative experiences were associated with higher rates of exceeding a clinical cut-off for post-traumatic stress disorder. Results are discussed in terms of implications for the social service sector and for future research.

Keywords: Intimate partner violence, Helpseeking, Men, Domestic violence services, Male victims

iptba · 22-11-2019 6:57pm

#Femicide2019 is trending

Another example of male victims and female perpetrators being removed from the narrative, giving an unbalanced view.

https://twitter.com/ailbhes/status/1197830426175397888

These are the figures from the UK:

On average about seven women and two men are killed by their current or former partner every month in England and Wales.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-22610534

iptba · 23-11-2019 7:40pm

https://www.thejournal.ie/femicide-five-women-killed-in-2019-4901086-Nov2019/

100 women have died at the hands of their current or former partners. These figures should shame Irish society. The legacy of loss is incalculable.

It is sad that anyone dies but I'm not sure it proves much about society. Lots of people are burgled, but doesn't mean that burglary is seen as acceptable amongst the vast majority of the population. And I'm not sure the general society is much to blame for the fact that some people burgle.

A review of femicide by the World Health Organisation found that an intimate partner commits more than 35% of murders of women worldwide. In comparison, the same study estimates that an intimate partner commits about 5% of all murders of men.

These sorts of figures might give the impression that the ratio is 7:1, which is not correct because more men are murdered in general.

On average about seven women and two men are killed by their current or former partner every month in England and Wales.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-22610534

Reviews and Books Galore · 24-11-2019 12:49pm

iptba wrote: »

#Femicide2019 is trending

Another example of male victims and female perpetrators being removed from the narrative, giving an unbalanced view.

https://twitter.com/ailbhes/status/1197830426175397888

These are the figures from the UK:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-22610534

1) I would love to see that study.

2) A grown 'woman' is actually saying that she is dissapointed in men's behaviour. I mean, is she some kind of global mother figure? :P

They should do a study on the death of children as most child murders are actually commited by women.

iptba · 30-11-2019 6:45pm

https://twitter.com/MensDayOutIndia/status/1200261678077808641

iptba · 22-12-2019 2:12pm

‘Epidemic’ of domestic violence needs to be stopped, says Varadkar

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/epidemic-of-domestic-violence-needs-to-be-stopped-says-varadkar-971845.html

What we’ll do in the year to come will be built on that but one of the things we’ll particularly do is invest in more refugees for women who’ve experienced violence. I’ll be visiting one next week, in fact.

“We should have Rathmines reopened quite soon and you’ll have Rathcoole as well and also one in Galway.

“There are different measures as to how many places you should have for the size of your population but we will meet one of those measures next year and we won’t be far off the second measure.”

I can't believe there are anywhere near any target should be for the number of refuges for men

iptba · 22-12-2019 3:37pm

Sarah Caden: 'Would Caroline Flack be treated differently over assault charge if she was a man?'
We still struggle with the idea of female violence and may judge it by a different standard, writes Sarah Caden

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/sarah-caden-would-caroline-flack-be-treated-differently-over-assault-charge-if-she-was-a-man-38806589.html

py2006 · 23-12-2019 4:54pm

The comparison with Ant McPartlin and Caroline Flack has been brought up a couple of times.

Any didn't physically assault his wife and arrested by police for it.

I don't think she deserves to lose her job necessarily but if she was a man that job would be long gone.

iptba · 30-12-2019 5:29pm

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/gardaí-receive-30-more-reports-of-domestic-violence-in-december-1.4126882

We need to increase our refuge spaces. We clearly don’t have adequate number of spaces. We shouldn’t have to have waiting lists and women shouldn’t have to travel to different counties to get help.”

She said the situation was exacerbated by the housing crisis.

“One of the reasons women won’t leave abusive situations is they are afraid they will have nowhere else to go. We need to ensure they have somewhere safe to go.”

The same can apply to men but refuge provision is non-existent or close to it.

iptba · 31-12-2019 5:32pm

(Not important at all)
A woman reads out something from the Irish Times today about how a woman decades ago had been convicted of murdering her neighbour by giving him a cake with poison: “I’m sure she had a good reason for doing it”. I doubt she would have said this if the genders were reversed.

It’s a pity we don’t have more empirical gender research where people are presented with the same scenarios with the only difference being the genders being altered.

iptba · 04-01-2020 7:48pm

Sons five times more likely to abuse elderly parents, study finds

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/sons-five-times-more-likely-to-abuse-elderly-parents-study-finds-1.4129793

Not a good statistic for men. Though it should be noted is that this is only for very specific type of elderly abuse where protection orders were sought.

“There were also a couple of really nasty ones involving false imprisonment,” he said. “There were a lot of correlations between drug issues and demands for money.”

In 38 per cent of cases, drugs were a factor in some way. Alcohol was a factor in 18 per cent and mental health issues and homelessness were a factor in 11 and eight per cent respectively.

Sleepy · 06-01-2020 11:21am

Would be interesting to see the stats on cases of Financial Abuse of the Elderly. The vast majority of the cases reported appear to be committed by women but that's apparently not worthy of reporting...

iptba · 20-01-2020 2:53pm

On the point of more males killing their partners or ex-partners, I just came across the following comment on the journal.ie

US Criminologists have been saying for decades not enough research is being done on women who kill their partners, they make the point that women hire people to do their bidding or coerce new partners to kill in sim,ilar numbers.

I must keep an eye out for data on that.

com1 · 24-01-2020 12:20pm

Interesting article with sources...

https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2020/0123/1110351-7-myths-about-domestic-violence/

Drakus · 24-01-2020 1:58pm

Newaglish wrote: »

From their website. What an epic fail.

So where are the stats for the men and children assualted by women over the same period. That statement reads like an anti-man rant. I am all for people who assualt others to have to take responsibility for their actions, weather male or female.

iptba · 04-02-2020 1:21am

Jessica Breeze cleared of father's murder after 'years of violence'

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-51362733

I'm uncomfortable with the idea that people can stab someone to death when such force didn't seem required at that moment in time and receive no penalty.

el_gaucho · 04-02-2020 7:52am

iptba wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-51362733

I'm uncomfortable with the idea that people can stab someone to death when such force didn't seem required at that moment in time and receive no penalty.

Looks like legitimate self defence to me.

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