Lenovo IdeaPad 5 15ARE05 15.6'' Ryzen AMD 16Gb DDR4 3200Mhz 256Gb SSD - â‚¬490

Dravokivich · 03-05-2020 4:16pm

dodzy wrote: »

Here we go :rolleyes:

You buy levis for 20 quid out of a boot, genuine Levi's. But the point of sale is the issue.

03-05-2020 5:26pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

It is. You just trying not to feel bad about it?

I've never bought one. But they are mainly leftover keys bought by colleges or corporations in bulk that would go to waste otherwise. Nothing shady about it.

And there's been Windows keys available at this price en masse on Ebay since at least Windows 7 came out in 2009 (possibly earlier too, can't remember), so it's not just "these days" it's been happening as you said grandpa. :pac:

Dravokivich · 03-05-2020 6:00pm

It's more likely to have been acquired with a stolen credit card.

03-05-2020 6:20pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

It's more likely to have been acquired with a stolen credit card.

Any proof of that?

You are making a lot of claims. Do you have any proof that the seller below has 'acquired' these licenses with a stolen credit card?

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/WINDOWS-10-PROFESSIONAL-PRO-32-64-BIT-LICENSE-ACTIVATION-KEY-CODE-EMAIL-24-7/114088218623?hash=item1a90300fff:g:veQAAOSwpBdeOTaE

03-05-2020 7:45pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

It's more likely to have been acquired with a stolen credit card.

You... You think someone who stole a credit card's best method for making profit is to buy hundreds of Windows keys and sell them for next to nothing, rather than simply buying electronic goods (or even video game codes) and selling them at near RRP? Is this a serious comment?

Slutmonkey57b · 04-05-2020 7:43am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You... You think someone who stole a credit card's best method for making profit is to buy hundreds of Windows keys and sell them for next to nothing, rather than simply buying electronic goods (or even video game codes) and selling them at near RRP? Is this a serious comment?

Makes sense actually. Don't need to employ people to ship physical things around.

But all these windows keys are MSDN subscriber keys so yes they are pirated. Companies with volume licensing agreements don't have spreadsheets full of Codes that they're assigned by Microsoft which some office drone can steal and companies certainly aren't reselling them.

04-05-2020 8:25am

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Makes sense actually. Don't need to employ people to ship physical things around.

But all these windows keys are MSDN subscriber keys so yes they are pirated. Companies with volume licensing agreements don't have spreadsheets full of Codes that they're assigned by Microsoft which some office drone can steal and companies certainly aren't reselling them.

But you don't need to do that either if you sell video game codes at a much higher price. If you think the best method of making profit from a stolen credit card while staying undetected is to buy hundreds of Windows keys then I don't know what to tell you.

And they're not all MSDN keys. Many of them are OA keys, Partner Program keys or OEM refurb keys, and they're not necessarily pirated. It's a grey area rather than piracy.

dodzy · 04-05-2020 9:21am

Now that we’re all well versed in authentic W10 activation keys and such......

Anyone else grab a nicely specked Lenovo recently ?:cool:

Paranoid Mandroid · 04-05-2020 2:04pm

Is it possible to get office from these eBay robin hood's? Heh heh. Seriously though, is that possible?

TetraSonic55 · 04-05-2020 2:55pm

Paranoid Mandroid wrote: »

Is it possible to get office from these eBay robin hood's? Heh heh. Seriously though, is that possible?

I managed to get a copy of Office Professional Plus 2019 for around a fiver. Works perfect, no trouble redeeming the code.

The Ayatolla · 04-05-2020 3:49pm

dodzy wrote: »

Pffffft. Change out of a fiver.

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/WINDOWS-10-PROFESSIONAL-PRO-32-64-BIT-LICENSE-ACTIVATION-KEY-CODE-EMAIL-24-7/114088218623?hash=item1a90300fff:g:veQAAOSwpBdeOTaE

Just bought this one to have it ready for the epic delivery day of this solid machine. Cheers!

The Ayatolla · 04-05-2020 3:51pm

Plenty MS Office codes available here too:

https://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xoffice+2019+code.TRS0&_nkw=office+2019+code&_sacat=0

mossy464 · 04-05-2020 5:07pm

Kicking myself I missed this laptop deal

Rock Paper Scissors · 04-05-2020 5:11pm

mossy464 wrote: »

Kicking myself I missed this laptop deal

Same

Wonder if it will come up again

Dravokivich · 04-05-2020 6:14pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Any proof of that?

You are making a lot of claims. Do you have any proof that the seller below has 'acquired' these licenses with a stolen credit card?

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/WINDOWS-10-PROFESSIONAL-PRO-32-64-BIT-LICENSE-ACTIVATION-KEY-CODE-EMAIL-24-7/114088218623?hash=item1a90300fff:g:veQAAOSwpBdeOTaE

Ebay is used a lot for reselling things bought through stolen credit cards. It's a bit naive to think you are purchasing something legit, for less than 5% of its price. Why is the burden of proof on me?

04-05-2020 7:00pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

Ebay is used a lot for reselling things bought through stolen credit cards. It's a bit naive to think you are purchasing something legit, for less than 5% of its price. Why is the burden of proof on me?

Because you're suggesting that an Ebay seller who has been selling thousands of Windows 10 keys for about five years has been doing so with a stolen credit card. It doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

And obviously the burden is on you if you are suggesting something is illegal, otherwise you wouldn't be able to sell anything on Ebay.

FFVII · 04-05-2020 7:21pm

Rock Paper Scissors wrote: »

Same

Wonder if it will come up again

3 months probably

McMurphy · 04-05-2020 8:00pm

Rock Paper Scissors wrote: »

Same

Wonder if it will come up again

Seen a poster on the laptop forum say they specced one on Lenovo site for pretty much the same price as the offer.

Doff · 04-05-2020 9:17pm

How long does it take to get the keys delivered once you buy them? Ideally I would like to use them instantly, wouldn't want to get arrested for handling stolen goods or anything.

04-05-2020 9:22pm

The keys should be sent to you within a few minutes of purchase. Lol no one is coming to arrest you for buying a software key from eBay.

04-05-2020 9:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The keys should be sent to you within a few minutes of purchase. Lol no one is coming to arrest you for buying a software key from eBay.

I think he was being sarcastic :P

dodzy · 04-05-2020 10:24pm

McMurphy wrote: »

Seen a poster on the laptop forum say they specced one on Lenovo site for pretty much the same price as the offer.

Not a hope.

McMurphy · 04-05-2020 11:27pm

dodzy wrote: »

Not a hope.

That's what they said.

Aodhan5000 wrote: »

I seem to be able to go onto their site and customize a laptop for what seems to be the same price anyway so all good

05-05-2020 1:07pm

McMurphy wrote: »

That's what they said.

that post was from April 23 when the deal was still going.

coldfire1x · 05-05-2020 1:52pm

I guess the deal is still there other than deselecting Windows 10 Home option gone, which was a saving for around €85 (€95 - 10% email signup).

McMurphy · 05-05-2020 2:13pm

glasso wrote: »

that post was from April 23 when the deal was still going.

Ah my bad, I was following the posts before where one guy seemed to suggest that the deal was over, and that poster replied saying they specced one for same price.

PaulKK · 06-05-2020 10:15am

Just got a cancellation email for the 14 inch Intel version, ordered over 2 weeks ago.

Anyone else get similar?

absolutegroove · 06-05-2020 10:24am

PaulKK wrote: »

Just got a cancellation email for the 14 inch Intel version, ordered over 2 weeks ago.

Anyone else get similar?

Have you checked your order? I ordered about two weeks ago aswell (AMD Ryzen) and my online order says it’s been released to manufacturing.

PaulKK · 06-05-2020 10:29am

absolutegroove wrote: »

Have you checked your order? I ordered about two weeks ago aswell (AMD Ryzen) and my online order says it’s been released to manufacturing.

It had said it had been released to manufacturing, but I also got a delay email a few days after ordering. This morning I got the cancellation mail.

UK store btw.

Doff · 06-05-2020 10:37am

Did they give a reason for cancellation?

absolutegroove · 06-05-2020 10:38am

PaulKK wrote: »

It had said it had been released to manufacturing, but I also got a delay email a few days after ordering. This morning I got the cancellation mail.

UK store btw.

Ah ok. That’s not good news. Nervous times ahead!!

jasonhn · 06-05-2020 10:44am

Anandtech review of the 4700U & 4500U

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15762/the-acer-swift-3-sf314-review-swift-gets-swifter-with-ryzen-4000

foxirl · 06-05-2020 11:00am

Order back a few weeks ago and then put a second order in a few days after for the same machine with a metal palm rest. Have shipping date for first one and can still cancel it but afraid to cancel it in case second one also gets cancelled. If the 2 ship I'm more than willing to offload the first at cost price to someone on here that missed out.
Spec was Rysen5 4500 with 16gb ram, 256GB HD, 70Wh battery, fingerprint reader, backlit keyboard. Will update ye once I know more on the orders.

PaulKK · 06-05-2020 11:06am

Doff wrote: »

Did they give a reason for cancellation?

"Unfortunately, the " ASSEMBLY IdeaPad 5 14IIL05 (1x)" you ordered is no longer available and as a result it was necessary to cancel it. We double checked with other warehouses, but sadly without success."

McMurphy · 06-05-2020 12:22pm

foxirl wrote: »

Order back a few weeks ago and then put a second order in a few days after for the same machine with a metal palm rest. Have shipping date for first one and can still cancel it but afraid to cancel it in case second one also gets cancelled. If the 2 ship I'm more than willing to offload the first at cost price to someone on here that missed out.
Spec was Rysen5 4500 with 16gb ram, 256GB HD, 70Wh battery, fingerprint reader, backlit keyboard. Will update ye once I know more on the orders.

I'd gladly take it off your hands?

Can pay via revolut/PayPal etc.

glog · 06-05-2020 12:23pm

I opened a ticket as I had not got a ship date.
Got the following reply:
Unfortunately the Metal C Cover that was included in your order don't have any supply yet. In that case, our relevant department is just advising you to cancel this order and transfer to ABS Cover.

I talked to Customer Support and their advice was to hold tough for a while as supply of parts can change on a daily basis.
I talked to Pre-Sales who said they cannot re-do a quote with ABS cover at the same price.

So, it's wait and see for now. At least they didn't cancel it ..... yet.

Lord Spence · 06-05-2020 12:56pm

glog wrote: »

I opened a ticket as I had not got a ship date.
Got the following reply:
Unfortunately the Metal C Cover that was included in your order don't have any supply yet. In that case, our relevant department is just advising you to cancel this order and transfer to ABS Cover.

I talked to Customer Support and their advice was to hold tough for a while as supply of parts can change on a daily basis.
I talked to Pre-Sales who said they cannot re-do a quote with ABS cover at the same price.

So, it's wait and see for now. At least they didn't cancel it ..... yet.

Whats the metal c cover is that the metal palm rest? If thats then case then I am in the same boat

Zardoz · 06-05-2020 2:28pm

jasonhn wrote: »

Anandtech review of the 4700U & 4500U

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15762/the-acer-swift-3-sf314-review-swift-gets-swifter-with-ryzen-4000

As I feared ,overheating issues and throttling .
I expect the fan on the Lenovo to be like a tractor .

absolutegroove · 06-05-2020 3:07pm

Just got an email saying my order of the Lenovo 15 has been delayed due to a parts issue!!

:-(

Doff · 06-05-2020 3:15pm

absolutegroove wrote: »

Just got an email saying my order of the Lenovo 15 has been delayed due to a parts issue!!

:-(

Same, not looking too good

Lord Spence · 06-05-2020 3:21pm

Doff wrote: »

Same, not looking too good

No email yet, for the people who are getting cancellation mails did ye order off the Uk or Ire store?

MidlanderMan · 06-05-2020 3:21pm

I got a delay email but the date is the same as before?
Ordered throught ire store.

4500u, 256gb SDD, IPS display, plastic palm rest.

Dante7 · 06-05-2020 3:25pm

Are the orders that have been cancelled have the metal or plastic palm rest? There seems to be an issue with supply of the metal palm rest.

Ryath · 06-05-2020 3:27pm

What spec? Did it say the part that was out of stock.

Just put in an order for one I had saved in my basket. It was too good a deal to turn down looking at benchmarks and reviews. Didn't have the option to spec the metal palm rest at the time hopefully it goes through.

XsApollo · 06-05-2020 3:30pm

Got the same email,
Didn’t spec the metal palm rest either.

MrStuffins · 06-05-2020 3:52pm

MidlanderMan wrote: »

I got a delay email but the date is the same as before?
Ordered throught ire store.

4500u, 256gb SDD, IPS display, plastic palm rest.

Same. Dispatch date the same as before.

No metal palm rest on mine

jasonhn · 06-05-2020 4:50pm

Same here, delay notification but with the same dispatch day.

No metal palm rest on the version I ordered

PaulKK · 06-05-2020 5:37pm

Dante7 wrote: »

Are the orders that have been cancelled have the metal or plastic palm rest? There seems to be an issue with supply of the metal palm rest.

Mine was metal palm rest. 14 inch.

Slutmonkey57b · 06-05-2020 5:58pm

Zardoz wrote: »

As I feared ,overheating issues and throttling .
I expect the fan on the Lenovo to be like a tractor .

YouTube review of the Lenovo said the opposite, performed quietly and well against a Dell XPS and a MacBook, both of which throttled. I wouldn't expect as much of Acer in that regard, generally more of a corner cutter. However in general it looks like AMD have been able to get partners to build better spec laptops all round this time. No doubt Dell will make one model available in Moldova with a dot matrix screen then use lack of sales to cancel their whole line. :-)

Dante7 · 06-05-2020 6:08pm

PaulKK wrote: »

Mine was metal palm rest. 14 inch.

This laptop isn't available in 14" with AMD yet. That's a different laptop that's been cancelled.

Lenovo IdeaPad 5 15ARE05 15.6'' Ryzen AMD 16Gb DDR4 3200Mhz 256Gb SSD - â‚¬490

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