RED ROCK [News, Spoilers and Discussion]

emanresu esrever · 06-01-2015 9:19am

Elmo wrote: »

I assume that the series will have arcs and crimes of the week.

I imagine that they will deal with the family plot across the week and this will involve a criminal investigation, meanwhile a crime of the week will occur.

but what is this term "crime of the week"...... . if it is to go down the soap route, stories need to be flowing and keep going for weeks etc. this crime a week thing sounds very murder she wrote! was the Bill a soap? I guess a hospital drama like Shortland Strret may be more akin to what they might be trying to do, except in a garda station. there is a strong family element to it but it is still centred around its focal point, the hospital. i also dont know how the chronological format of the show is going to work. soaps in Ireland/england are generally focused on a daily format manner, ie morning to evening, but given the nature of this show and the fact it only has 2 episodes per week they may cross over to a few days maybe?

Go Harvey Go · 06-01-2015 10:46am

Worth pointing out that The Bill was gritty for the first 15 years of its life, then gradually became more soapy after Tosh Lines died and the theme tune was rearranged...

pmasterson95 · 07-01-2015 11:40am

Red Rocks big unveiling clashes with Eastenders at 8.30.......thats a **** up.

morebabies · 07-01-2015 12:23pm

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Red Rocks big unveiling clashes with Eastenders at 8.30.......thats a **** up.

You're right, that's a monumental boo-boo, I'd say when they were planning the launch episode they wouldn't have known of the schedule changes to Eastenders this week, and it would have been too late to change the date once all their promotional stuff was printed. Eastenders will suck in most of their target audience this evening.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 07-01-2015 12:42pm

Up against Eastenders again tomorrow as well. Clashes were always going to be inevitable at some point, but I doubt anyone expected it for the first week. I'd assume that Sky+, 3player views etc. are taken into account as well though - people will watch it as there's a lot of buzz around it. Clashes with other soaps shouldn't make all that much of a difference in the long run since the way we watch television has evolved so much in the last decade and if anything Red Rock will probably benefit from being the first soap having that sort of luxury...

pmasterson95 · 07-01-2015 2:24pm

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

Up against Eastenders again tomorrow as well. Clashes were always going to be inevitable at some point, but I doubt anyone expected it for the first week. I'd assume that Sky+, 3player views etc. are taken into account as well though - people will watch it as there's a lot of buzz around it. Clashes with other soaps shouldn't make all that much of a difference in the long run since the way we watch television has evolved so much in the last decade and if anything Red Rock will probably benefit from being the first soap having that sort of luxury...

Still this must have them infuriated. All that PR and Marketing and money they spent and boom a clash. Not what they spent money on advertising for. They advertised for 8.30 7/1/15....now most people will watch Eastenders thats not in anyway a luxury. If they was no Eastenders they would expect that even casual mildly interested viewers would watch put of curiosity. Now with a clash both times in its debut week thats ****. Diehards might go to the effort of it but I'm sure when TV3 picked these dates and times they expected no clashes. This will inevitably affect ratings this week. If they were relying on 3player they would put it at say 8.00 and not spent half as much on advertising. This is an own goal.

emanresu esrever · 07-01-2015 2:49pm

yeah this is a huge concern for them, perhaps they will replay both episodes back to back at a peak time over the weekend to accomodate for it, perhaps Sunday evening,..........................not that TV3 are in the habit of repeating programmes............................. ; )

pmasterson95 · 07-01-2015 3:34pm

emanresu esrever wrote: »

yeah this is a huge concern for them, perhaps they will replay both episodes back to back at a peak time over the weekend to accomodate for it, perhaps Sunday evening,..........................not that TV3 are in the habit of repeating programmes............................. ; )

Yeah point is they needed to spend about 1/4 of whatever money advertising the show if they are just gunna rely on repeats/player for people to watch. I doubt they wanted to promote the player/reruns. Othereise just air it at the same time as say emmerdale.

emanresu esrever · 07-01-2015 3:59pm

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Yeah point is they needed to spend about 1/4 of whatever money advertising the show if they are just gunna rely on repeats/player for people to watch. I doubt they wanted to promote the player/reruns. Othereise just air it at the same time as say emmerdale.

well it wasn't planned, just an unfortunate turn of events...... i am sure BBC bosses are equally concerned...!! They messed up by relying too long on ITV to bring in their ratings, they should have preempted this situation re UTV I and tbh I haven't much sympathy for the station. Been spouting out cr$p and repeats for far too long, no creativity at all. Ireland AM was a relative success, I amn't sure what the figures are for Expose but the rest is imported rubish for most part

emanresu esrever · 07-01-2015 6:02pm

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Red Rocks big unveiling clashes with Eastenders at 8.30.......thats a **** up.

this is an error actually. eastenders 2 episodes tomorrow. doesnt clash tonight

thesultan · 07-01-2015 7:32pm

When is it repeated?

emanresu esrever · 07-01-2015 7:37pm

thesultan wrote: »

When is it repeated?

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday. There will be a highlights proframme Saturday and at when the series inevitably flops and ends in two years repeats will be twice daily for the next decade.

TV3peat :rolleyes:

emanresu esrever · 07-01-2015 7:39pm

Ps, I dont work for Fair City....................................... ; )

hoodwinked · 07-01-2015 8:05pm

emanresu esrever wrote: »

this is an error actually. eastenders 2 episodes tomorrow. doesnt clash tonight

yes it does, Eastenders schedule is all over the place, (and since when is corrie back on Wednesdays? )

tonight on RTE 1 Eastenders is on at 7.30 (clashing with corrie)
tonight on BBC 1 Eastenders is on at 8.30 (clashing with Red Rock)

tomorrow night there is Eastenders on BBC 1 at 7.30 & 8.30 again clashing with Red rock.
tomorrow night on RTE 1 Eastenders is on at 7.00 - 8.00 (clashing with Emmerdale)

for me i really wanted to watch Red Rock, so i am going to record it on sky and watch EE (no ads) and then after watch red rock and skip the ads

TOMs WIFE · 07-01-2015 8:14pm

emanresu esrever wrote: »

I am predicting this is going to flop big time! Tv3 has no precedence for homegrown drama success, i believe?

emanresu esrever wrote: »

Ill have a look but i dont have high hopes.

emanresu esrever wrote: »

noones criticizing it. i just anticipate, on balance of probabilities, the odds are it won't be a big success for reasons i have stated above.

emanresu esrever wrote: »

reading an interview with one of the leading females in the show and a couple of things struck my attention as not being very promising for Red Rock......

firstly when discussing her previous roles, the actress cited Amber (rte) as being one of her big roles to date ( she "starred" as a dead body.......)

secondly, when asked if she could ever see herself in Fair City, she responded with something along the lines of.... " im not even thinking about that now, we all know you have to be brilliant to get a role in fair city....."

hmmmm.....

emanresu esrever wrote: »

There will be a highlights proframme Saturday and at when the series inevitably flops and ends in two years repeats will be twice daily for the next decade.

TV3peat :rolleyes:

You certainly seem negative about a TV station that, in my opinion, is at least having a go at creating new Irish television content, supporting Irish actors and Irish jobs. I'm going to at least give it a chance and, for the reasons above, I hope it does well. You appear to relish the thought of it failing for some reason.

And even if I don't like it I certainly will still give them kudos for trying. I can't see it being any worse than any other soap to be honest!

Bootros Bootros · 07-01-2015 8:21pm

The promo looked promising. Let's hope they can do something.

emanresu esrever · 07-01-2015 8:32pm

TOMs WIFE wrote: »

You certainly seem negative about a TV station that, in my opinion, is at least having a go at creating new Irish television content, supporting Irish actors and Irish jobs. I'm going to at least give it a chance and, for the reasons above, I hope it does well. You appear to relish the thought of it failing for some reason.

And even if I don't like it I certainly will still give them kudos for trying. I can't see it being any worse than any other soap to be honest!

I'm just saying, why did it take them so long to be creative. Its like a soccer team defending, in the hope of getting a draw, parking the bus. Then they concede and thow everything at attack! Strange analogy but kind of works!

I dont care if it does well or not, patriotism or not. If it does, kudos, but I just think Tv3 hasn't exactly promoted much homegrown talent, in the way of drama for the last 13 years or however long it has been on (?) so i dont have too much empathy towards them now to be honest!

I dont want it to fail, nor do i care if it succeds, I have no association to the show! my words have no influence, and tbh I actually do think it will be worth a watch but I think it may run out of steam!

emanresu esrever · 07-01-2015 8:36pm

hoodwinked wrote: »

yes it does, Eastenders schedule is all over the place, (and since when is corrie back on Wednesdays? )

tonight on RTE 1 Eastenders is on at 7.30 (clashing with corrie)
tonight on BBC 1 Eastenders is on at 8.30 (clashing with Red Rock)

tomorrow night there is Eastenders on BBC 1 at 7.30 & 8.30 again clashing with Red rock.
tomorrow night on RTE 1 Eastenders is on at 7.00 - 8.00 (clashing with Emmerdale)

for me i really wanted to watch Red Rock, so i am going to record it on sky and watch EE (no ads) and then after watch red rock and skip the ads

sorry, was looking only at RTE schedules, as majority of Irish viewers will be to be honest.

it will be a lot worse if it was clashing with RTE eastenders

Dirty Steve · 07-01-2015 8:38pm

The promo was very well done, but I doubt they have the budget to continually produce a high quality programme.

Having said that, I doubt it'd be hard to make something better then Fair City.

kneemos · 07-01-2015 9:09pm

Up against Eastenders for some reason.

Elmo · 07-01-2015 9:19pm

kneemos wrote: »

Up against Eastenders for some reason.

Have RTÉ Re-scheduled EastEnders to avoid it clashing?

kneemos · 07-01-2015 9:21pm

Elmo wrote: »

Have RTÉ Re-scheduled EastEnders to avoid it clashing?

Dunno,it's on the Beeb at 8.30.

emanresu esrever · 07-01-2015 9:29pm

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somesoldiers · 07-01-2015 9:31pm

Hope it's good

somesoldiers · 07-01-2015 9:32pm

01 227788679 a lot of numbers on that sign

JONJO THE MISER · 07-01-2015 9:32pm

Just started....

emanresu esrever · 07-01-2015 9:34pm

just kidding....! In fairness, i like the camerawork. And you cant call it a soap with background music, really

somesoldiers · 07-01-2015 9:34pm

Guard sounds Eastern European, do we have foreign guards?

Lapin · 07-01-2015 9:34pm

I have yet to see an Irish drama series depicting guards as anything other than bunch of complete and utter gimps.

somesoldiers · 07-01-2015 9:35pm

Here's the posh sort

somesoldiers · 07-01-2015 9:36pm

Lapin wrote: »

I have yet to see an Irish drama series depicting guards as anything other than bunch of complete and utter gimps.

What was that one set in the West? They weren't that bad or were they?

emanresu esrever · 07-01-2015 9:36pm

somesoldiers wrote: »

Guard sounds Eastern European, do we have foreign guards?

he sounded a mixture between a D4 head and a robot!

Lapin · 07-01-2015 9:37pm

emanresu esrever wrote: »

And you cant call it a soap with background music, really

Bracken used to have background music. Tin whistles and flutes and pipes and things.

Lapin · 07-01-2015 9:39pm

"Darren's in the Hospital"

"What happened him?"

"Lizzie shot him in the back of the head silly."

hotmail.com · 07-01-2015 9:39pm

I thought it was meant to be set in Howth?

kneemos · 07-01-2015 9:39pm

Her accent went scanger all of a sudden.

Yester · 07-01-2015 9:40pm

Ad break already.

Bootros Bootros · 07-01-2015 9:40pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

I thought it was meant to be set in Howth?

No a fictional town in North dublin. Filmed in Howth.

Weak acting so far.

emanresu esrever · 07-01-2015 9:40pm

I love that they ended the first part in a dramatic revelation............... that we already knew from the first minute of the show!

grey_so_what · 07-01-2015 9:40pm

It's not great so far....

07-01-2015 9:41pm

The daily edge published a "12 things we learned about Red Rock" just when it started. Morons

kneemos · 07-01-2015 9:42pm

Is it a continuous thing or a series?

Atlantic Dawn · 07-01-2015 9:43pm

kneemos wrote: »

Is it a continuous thing or a series?

Think it's been signed up for 2 or 3 years.

Elmo · 07-01-2015 9:43pm

Lapin wrote: »

Bracken used to have background music. Tin whistles and flutes and pipes and things.

Braken wasn't a full soap it was an hour long.

somesoldiers · 07-01-2015 9:43pm

It's a soap- will never end

Atlantic Dawn · 07-01-2015 9:44pm

Looks the sort of gritty storyline that a post watershed slot would have suited it so much better, they will be limited in what they can show.

PLL · 07-01-2015 9:44pm

I want to like it. I think focusing on the guards would appeal to me more. If their characters are developed well.

The acting between the ones in the bar was cringe.

somesoldiers · 07-01-2015 9:45pm

He is deffo an Eastern European guard

podgeandrodge · 07-01-2015 9:45pm

grey_so_what wrote: »

It's not great so far....

Thought it was quite good by irish soap standards.

hotmail.com · 07-01-2015 9:45pm

Bootros Bootros wrote: »

No a fictional town in North dublin. Filmed in Howth.

Weak acting so far.

It was in Dun Leary at the start.

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