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DotA 2 General Chat Thread

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    the flailing looks lol, no you can't swap. you can repick though.

    tempted by this mousemat:

    http://i.imgur.com/ek8kN.jpg


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    I'm also having serious issues with the game, notably colourblindness. I'm colourblind and the colourblind option doesn't do anything at all for me. I spent 3/4 matches trying to distinguish different things on the map and the minimap. Does not like :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    How the hell do you bring up the console, the default nor changed button work for me ?
    Also, from googling i found that you werent able to set the middle mouse button to do anything. Is this still the case ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    I get my laptop back tomorrow, woooo


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Spunge wrote: »
    How the hell do you bring up the console, the default nor changed button work for me ?
    Also, from googling i found that you werent able to set the middle mouse button to do anything. Is this still the case ?
    Cant bind that no.

    enable console in launch options, comes up on launch of the game.
    GO_Bear wrote: »
    I get my laptop back tomorrow, woooo

    FINALLY. I'd have built one out of toasters by now.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,527 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    I'm also having serious issues with the game, notably colourblindness. I'm colourblind and the colourblind option doesn't do anything at all for me. I spent 3/4 matches trying to distinguish different things on the map and the minimap. Does not like :(

    Hmm interesting, perhaps the system to aid those who are colour-blind has not been implemented fully yet.

    If I were you I would drop a note to the Dota 2 team. They could be looking for some people to give them feedback on that specific issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    I'm fairly severely colourblind and have no issues at all with the game. What is it in particular?


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    If I were you I would drop a note to the Dota 2 team. They could be looking for some people to give them feedback on that specific issue.

    I would Drop it in here DoTA2 Dev forum, some cool ideas in there, and also Icefrog regularly posts on topics that are fixed or being fixed

    Once you have registered take a look at this suggestion, I think it looks cool :D

    Improved picking screen


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    Stolen from /r/dota2 and edited a bit :P I think it holds true !

    NGZRn.png


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    so you can play again eh?

    that starting screen looks great!


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Great thanks, I took both of your advice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    Back in the swing of things now !

    Loving single draft mode however I reckon they will soon add the swap ability, and a more intuitive UI for it, so you don't have to hover over or type the three names during hero pick.

    But getting to certainly play heroes I normally don't jump on, like Furion and Tinker.


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Got an instant ultra kill as ES yesterday :D

    Had lifestealer ulti on me aswell so he popped that before I did my fissure to secure all 4 kills!


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Dota 2 Devs got back to me saying they're planning a complete colourblindness overhaul in a few weeks. Thank christ because I can't play the game at all in its current state. :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    good stuff, really are great devs there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Valve have always been pro, things like that help make valve take 3x the normal time to release a game(and thats if we're lucky), but when they do, they do it right. gg


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not with all games lads, look how they treated CS:S for years! Although the community is full of cúnts(me being one :p ) so can't blame them really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    Me and a mate have been messing around with a Carry Tiny, We do Tiny and Lina lane, I give him the farm, he rushes steam boots and Aghanims Septer ( for Cleave, who needs battle fury !! ), then builds blink dagger, assault Curiass, and Abyssal blade ( the one from basher ) and with his passive stun chance on hit and bash, enemy carries have a very very hard time taking him down !

    And I laughed at this video !



  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I love a good feed


  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭Hawke


    Nothing feels as good as coming out of jungle as Bane on a Tiny with 150HP.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    DoTA 1 6.74 Patch, should be implemented soon into DoTA 2 I reckon, interesting if not expected nerf to Dark seer wall, and Exort Invoker boost along with a wex nerf !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Any spare keys going for this still? Two friends of mine are interested and sick of LoL.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    havent seen anybody giving em out, valve are still sending em out if they do the survey. Otherwise I see them sell for 13e


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Still no update on the colourblindness. I haz a sad :(


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Something like that might take a while.


    May have ordered this :o

    il_fullxfull.312702281.jpg

    gonna put it on my keys though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    You playing much ? Got my laptop back and I am normally on in the evenings, have been having an unusual amount of good games recently as well, which is odd, single draft just makes for more interesting games.

    VsLSX.png


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Not on too much since I moved house recently. Will pop on if I see you! SD has made games much better imo. However I'd prefer to just play AR.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    So what's the story with obtaining a beta key?


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    You need a steam account and have to sign up Here, afaik they are still trickling out invites, as they scale up


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  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    Test test client update goes to beta client Friday, Rumor also has it that some people got more invites to give out, so check, I will check after work, although be careful I heard rumor they are bugged or something

    feqatc.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    So the F2P stuff is making it's way in.

    http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/22/dota-2-patch-files-tease-microtransactions-masks-taunts-and-dr-kleiner-included/#comments

    Unsure how I feel about some of them. Needs more Pimp.


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    Well as long as you have full access to the whole hero pool, cosmetics won't bother me that much, as long as ... in tournaments they disable it.

    Couriers and announcers are pretty standard and to be honest I like it, as for skins, as long as they are not silly and fit into the lore thats fine with me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭dibkins


    Got myself an invite, its pretty sweet. The unfair bots are brutal, much easier to play against real people. I'll only look to the bots if i'm trying out a champ with tricky mechanics.
    I'm having trouble with the interface somewhat (partly moving over from lol, and partly it's not the greatest) but i did have fun killing things on Lich.


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    dibkins wrote: »
    Got myself an invite, its pretty sweet. The unfair bots are brutal, much easier to play against real people. I'll only look to the bots if i'm trying out a champ with tricky mechanics.
    I'm having trouble with the interface somewhat (partly moving over from lol, and partly it's not the greatest) but i did have fun killing things on Lich.

    Aye they still have a long way to go, I take issues with the picking screen, the single draft is counter intuitive, at least show us what the others also have, and PLEASE GOD make it enforce your pick after 1 minute, so its not a Mexican stand off to counter pick when the creeps are close to spawning.

    But I have seen some great ideas on the dev forums, I played alot of HoN so I am used to the big UI, but I would also like to see some kind of UI scaling.

    Lich is a great great hero to start with, but don't just stick to the supports who don't need farm, farming in DoTA 2 is more difficult than LoL, so pick carries as well and practice farming, I would reccomend Juggernaut for a fun first carry, his Q is a spin to win ( garens, but you are magic immune ), his W is a healing ward, you don't have the mana to spam it early but it is ****ing OP if you can hide it from people, his E is a passive chance to Crit giving him his carry potential and his Ultimate is akin to that new hero in LoL Fiora's ultimate except at lot deadlier if you catch 1/2 opponents alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Go Skeleton King, stun, crits, life steal AND a second life. What more could you want when your starting off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭dibkins


    Cool, thanks. i was wondering what champs to try out.
    I was playing Lich solo top, i got left there for some reason and ended up with the most CS of anyone in the match (a stellar 68!) which i though was hilarious since i spent half my time trying to figure out how to deny with the A key. I was 4/2/6 when the other team had 3 rage quits. Lots of fun:P
    I'm gonna start last hit practice early here allright, and the move animation interrupt thing seems quite important. i've not come accross that in lol. for now i'm just trying to get a grip on what exaclty is going on on the battlefield.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    dibkins wrote: »
    Cool, thanks. i was wondering what champs to try out.
    I was playing Lich solo top, i got left there for some reason and ended up with the most CS of anyone in the match (a stellar 68!) which i though was hilarious since i spent half my time trying to figure out how to deny with the A key. I was 4/2/6 when the other team had 3 rage quits. Lots of fun:P
    I'm gonna start last hit practice early here allright, and the move animation interrupt thing seems quite important. i've not come accross that in lol. for now i'm just trying to get a grip on what exaclty is going on on the battlefield.

    Generally most princples from LoL carry over, some don't and new concepts are brought in.


    Most of the common questions have been answered here,

    http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/otygb/switching_from_league_of_legends_what_should_i/

    Also I can't stress this enough, Dota2 has carries and hard carries. Hard carries tend to be quite week early game and are dependant on their CS (go hard or go home I guess). They are the toughest champs to play because they have a lot of weight riding on them doing well. Such champs include Faceless Void, Anti Mage, OutWorld Destoryer etc. These champs NEED gold else they provide f*ck all use.


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To be honest reading **** is a waste of time, just playing regularly is how to get decent and understand the game. Yeah read if you need to get the very basics but you're better off just throwing yourself in the deep end while queuing with friends if possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    To be honest reading **** is a waste of time, just playing regularly is how to get good and understand the game. Yeah read if you need to the very basics but you're better off just throwing yourself in the deep end while queuing with friends if possible.


    No it isn't. If your a LoL player there are a lot of concepts in Dota that aren't going to be explained to you and that the game presumes you already know. If you have a friend who knows their stuff talking you through it then yeah it serves no purpose but for someone who wants to quickly find some answers it's a great source of info.


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    Aye its very hero dependent, for example for melee, anti Mage has a nice quick attack animation with not much follow through, while Tide's forward swing takes eon's, and with ranged Lina has the longest attack point but the highest ( afaik ) starting range, while Sniper has the smallest attack point ( almost melee with no travel time ) but a very weak base damage to start with.

    My favorite attack animations are Sven, Naix and Rhasta, dunno why I am just used to them.

    One of my favorite combo's to do with a mate is Naix in the jungle, and Beast master mid, once your both level six, have Naix Jump into Beast masters hawk and fly it behind the enemy, then pounce out when a fight starts xD , Or have a blink like Queen of Pain, or even Storm Spirit with a large mana pool can bring the two of you into a fight


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  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    To be honest reading **** is a waste of time, just playing regularly is how to get decent and understand the game. Yeah read if you need to get the very basics but you're better off just throwing yourself in the deep end while queuing with friends if possible.

    The first thing you will learn is not to give Dragon Knight First blood


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stev_o wrote: »
    No it isn't. If your a LoL player there are a lot of concepts in Dota that aren't going to be explained to you and that the game presumes you already know. If you have a friend who knows their stuff talking you through it then yeah it serves no purpose but for someone who wants to quickly find some answers it's a great source of info.

    So you're just basing this on your own experience am I right?

    I came from HoN didn't read anything at all, jumped into the game and was absolutely fine. Nearly sure I am queued in one of the higher tiers as I've been on teams or vs teams with people I've seen in casts. I am average at best but my point is I got to that mediocre level from just playing. The people on my vent that do all the reading up about the game and just watch casts all the time while not playing are the ones that are armless when it comes to inhouses so I am basing what I said on a few people I've seen personally so take what you want from that. I think it's proven in anything though that you get better at something by grinding at it.

    GO_Bear wrote: »
    The first thing you will learn is not to give Dragon Knight First blood

    Ha that game was a mess!


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    Oh and post your steam here, or PM me it and I will add you lads and see if we can get more games going, at the moment I only really play games with Tar and one with KaG in the last while, so I have been playing with ze germans, which is fun but I cannot understand what they are saying :/


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GO_Bear wrote: »
    Oh and post your steam here, or PM me it and I will add you lads and see if we can get more games going, at the moment I only really play games with Tar and one with KaG in the last while, so I have been playing with ze germans, which is fun but I cannot understand what they are saying :/

    Sorry about that ya I am rarely on during the week anymore :( . Playing alot of 7 a side and when I do get on at the weekends the lads from my vent are at me to get a few in :( . Funny though when we play we regularly win! That DK game was just a total mess. You were fully farmed by 25 minutes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    So you're just basing this on your own experience am I right?

    I came from HoN didn't read anything at all, jumped into the game and was absolutely fine. Nearly sure I am queued in one of the higher tiers as I've been on teams or vs teams with people I've seen in casts. I am average at best but my point is I got to that mediocre level from just playing. The people on my vent that do all the reading up about the game and just watch casts all the time while not playing are the ones that are armless when it comes to inhouses so I am basing what I said on a few people I've seen personally so take what you want from that. I think it's proven in anything though that you get better at something by grinding at it.




    Ha that game was a mess!

    Your coming from HoN which was a straight copy of Dota, go figure. Does a LoL player know what runes are? Do they know where they spawn? At what time? Do they know what cheese is? That's not even half of it.

    Your coming off your experiences of HoN so why advise someone coming from LoL where it's an entirely different system?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    So you're just basing this on your own experience am I right?

    I came from HoN didn't read anything at all, jumped into the game and was absolutely fine...

    Hon is much more similar to Dota than LoL is. I'd definitely recommend LoL players trying the game out to do some reading up.


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stev_o wrote: »
    Your coming from HoN which was a straight copy of Dota, go figure. Does a LoL player know what runes are? Do they know where they spawn? At what time? Do they know what cheese is? That's not even half of it.

    Your coming off your experiences of HoN so why advise someone coming from LoL where it's an entirely different system?

    A number of people I play with came from LoL , the ones that play regularly are the ones that are at a better level by far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    Sorry about that ya I am rarely on during the week anymore :( . Playing alot of 7 a side and when I do get on at the weekends the lads from my vent are at me to get a few in :( . Funny though when we play we regularly win! That DK game was just a total mess. You were fully farmed by 25 minutes!

    Its grand, I have not been able to play alot as well, Busy at work, so maybe one game a night, Last week I had an almost 7 game win streak and I am paying for it now, some of the teams ... some of the enemy teams :( We lost to an Anti mage with a 138 CS afer 38 minutes, and he actually thought he was good :( I had that after 12 minutes on DK !


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GO_Bear wrote: »
    Its grand, I have not been able to play alot as well, Busy at work, so maybe one game a night, Last week I had an almost 7 game win streak and I am paying for it now, some of the teams ... some of the enemy teams :( We lost to an Anti mage with a 138 CS afer 38 minutes, and he actually thought he was good :( I had that after 12 minutes on DK !

    I should be on tonight now that I think of it. I'll get a few games in if I can!


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    I am not on tonight mate, well I might be between 6 and 9, but not any later, But I do need a win :/


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