Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

Gumbo · 18-10-2020 9:29pm

Annabella1 wrote: »

Any plans for any more garages in Ireland

A tyre change in these machines can be an ordeal outside the pale

Tyre change is straight forward.
I’ve had mine done at some garages and 2 patched and plugged also.

J-W · 19-10-2020 10:28am

There's nothing special about the wheels or tyres bar a foam ring for road noise reduction which doesn't affect maintenance.

You can get them changed anywhere. You don't have to go to Audi to get Audi tyres changed.

I Know people are gonna bitch but I bought a tyre plug kit for mine. I have used them on motorcycles and cars 3 or 4 times and when installed correctly they haves stayed safely in the tyre for it's remaining life with no issues

19-10-2020 5:38pm

Looks like the LiFeP04 M3 is coming to Europe. Hopefully with the price cut.

https://insideevs.com/news/449645/tesla-exports-mic-model-3-china-europe/

eagerv · 19-10-2020 7:35pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks like the LiFeP04 M3 is coming to Europe. Hopefully with the price cut.

https://insideevs.com/news/449645/tesla-exports-mic-model-3-china-europe/

Excuse my ignorance, but is this considered to be a better/worse battery?

Gumbo · 19-10-2020 7:46pm

New Interior Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si2KaRzzL7E

Looks good IMO.

jhegarty · 19-10-2020 8:15pm

eagerv wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, but is this considered to be a better/worse battery?

It's a mixed bag.

The battery is heaver but should last longer.

redcup342 · 19-10-2020 8:25pm

eagerv wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, but is this considered to be a better/worse battery?

Considered to be cheaper.

Should be the same in the end

AndyBoBandy · 19-10-2020 8:27pm

And isnt the car from China less powerful (In SR+ guise anyway?)

J-W · 19-10-2020 8:34pm

One interesting thing I read about the Tesla
LFP batteries is they recommend charging to 100% at least once a week

19-10-2020 9:27pm

eagerv wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, but is this considered to be a better/worse battery?

LiFeP04 offers twice the life and more over most other Li batteries. However, it remains to be seen how Tesla manage heat with fast charging which will impact cell life if allowed to get too hot in order to be able to charge at 170 odd Kw that's if the new battery can take it.

Uses no Cobalt which makes it greener.

Very safe, will not catch fire.

But it's less energy dense, LiFeP04 energy density has improved but Tesla had to choose a less energy dense cell for more power density to allow faster acceleration and fast charging tesla owners are used to.

It's larger and heavier but the link below explains how they can make up for this.

https://cleantechnica.com/2020/02/19/catl-built-tesla-model-3-battery-pack-will-use-prismatic-cells/

jhegarty · 19-10-2020 10:18pm

Got my vin. It's a 2021 model made in Fremont.

J-W · 19-10-2020 10:24pm

jhegarty wrote: »

Got my vin. It's a 2021 model made in Fremont.

Are you planning on taking the early delivery ?

jhegarty · 19-10-2020 10:30pm

At the earliest it won't be here until late November. They are just loading the first ship bound for Europe today. The ETA is for the ship to reach Southampton on Nov 12th. Add two days to offload a few more to get to Dublin.

J-W · 19-10-2020 10:31pm

jhegarty wrote: »

At the earliest it won't be here until the late November. They are just loading the first ship bound for Europe today. The ETA is for the ship to reach Southampton on Nov 12th. Add two days to offload a few more to get to Dublin.

Exciting stuff

nc6000 · 19-10-2020 11:28pm

Gumbo wrote: »

New Interior Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si2KaRzzL7E

Looks good IMO.

I think that looks much much better.

J-W · 20-10-2020 4:22pm

Tesla Sweden confirmed to a customer that long-range and performance Models 3's would come with a heat pump.

So possibly no heat pump in the coming SR+ .

20-10-2020 5:12pm

J-W wrote: »

Tesla Sweden confirmed to a customer that long-range and performance Models 3's would come with a heat pump.

So possibly no heat pump in the coming SR+ .

SR+ is getting the heat pump.

J-W · 20-10-2020 5:29pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

SR+ is getting the heat pump.

Proof ?

20-10-2020 5:48pm

J-W wrote: »

Proof ?

Sorry I don't have a car that I can take apart yet

but the same sources that told us some time back of the changes to battery, centre console and chrome delete said the HP was coming too so I presume we'll find out for sure in a few weeks or even less.

Geeyfds53573 · 20-10-2020 7:38pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sorry I don't have a car that I can take apart yet but the same sources that told us some time back of the changes to battery, centre console and chrome delete said the HP was coming too so I presume we'll find out for sure in a few weeks or even less.

Sandyford couldn’t confirm they just said refresh model is available

J-W · 20-10-2020 7:44pm

Geeyfds53573 wrote: »

Sandyford couldn’t confirm they just said refresh model is available

It's very frustrating. You don't know what your getting. 10 countries in Europe are getting china built model 3's . Could they not tell us if Ireland is one . Is our car gonna have LFP battery ?
. Is it gonna have a Heat pump
At least we know its a refresh from the configorator but that's all . It's a good time and a terrible time to buy a M3

embraer170 · 20-10-2020 7:54pm

J-W wrote: »

One interesting thing I read about the Tesla
LFP batteries is they recommend charging to 100% at least once a week

I can't decide if an LFP is a good or bad thing.
Great potential, but unproven (vs a battery tech they have been using for years).

jhegarty · 20-10-2020 7:55pm

J-W wrote: »

It's very frustrating. You don't know what your getting. 10 countries in Europe are getting china built model 3's . Could they not tell us if Ireland is one . Is our car gonna have LFP battery ?
. Is it gonna have a Heat pump
At least we know its a refresh from the configorator but that's all . It's a good time and a terrible time to buy a M3

I can confirm my car is coming from Fremont.

J-W · 20-10-2020 7:58pm

embraer170 wrote: »

I can't decide if an LFP is a good or bad thing.
Great potential, but unproven (vs a battery tech they have been using for years).

Agreed I still don't know which I want .

But I would rather the Chinese built car in general. Old "Made in China" jokes aside I believe they would put together a car better than an American assembly line.

J-W · 20-10-2020 8:00pm

jhegarty wrote: »

I can confirm my car is coming from Fremont.

I was gonna PM and ask but are you getting a SR+ .

If so ya it points to the next two loads at least coming from Fremont

jhegarty · 20-10-2020 8:06pm

J-W wrote: »

I was gonna PM and ask but are you getting a SR+ .

If so ya it points to the next two loads at least coming from Fremont

SR+

Geeyfds53573 · 20-10-2020 8:46pm

I did a test drive recently SR+ and felt it was a bit rough, mind you it was on rough roads around Stepaside on purpose. I can’t put my finger on it shock absorbers or some part of the suspension. Handling was awesome so I’m looking for advice. Maybe the bigger tyres or performance model are smoother. I really couldn’t criticise anything else so am already sold but would like opinions?

Odauto · 20-10-2020 9:07pm

Geeyfds53573 wrote: »

I did a test drive recently SR+ and felt it was a bit rough, mind you it was on rough roads around Stepaside on purpose. I can’t put my finger on it shock absorbers or some part of the suspension. Handling was awesome so I’m looking for advice. Maybe the bigger tyres or performance model are smoother. I really couldn’t criticise anything else so am already sold but would like opinions?

I didn't notice any difference between my SR+ with aero wheels and a Long range with sports wheels. Having said that, I didn't notice any difference between my old passat sport and the SR+. Can't imagine the performance model would be any different but haven't been in one yet.
The Model S has a much smoother ride. But that's a different kettle of fish.

Geeyfds53573 · 20-10-2020 9:29pm

Odauto wrote: »

I didn't notice any difference between my SR+ with aero wheels and a Long range with sports wheels. Having said that, I didn't notice any difference between my old passat sport and the SR+. Can't imagine the performance model would be any different but haven't been in one yet.
The Model S has a much smoother ride. But that's a different kettle of fish.

Interesting is it well known the Model S is a smoother ride? What’s the reasons?

embraer170 · 20-10-2020 9:54pm

J-W wrote: »

Agreed I still don't know which I want .

But I would rather the Chinese built car in general. Old "Made in China" jokes aside I believe they would put together a car better than an American assembly line.

I agree, but the question is how would one compare an American assembly line that has been producing Models 3s for three years, and a rather new Chinese assmbly line. That, combined with the LFP battery uncertainty, I am totally undecided.

Odauto · 20-10-2020 10:11pm

Geeyfds53573 wrote: »

Interesting is it well known the Model S is a smoother ride? What’s the reasons?

The Model S has adaptive air suspension. Model 3 doesn't yet but apparently air suspension is coming for the Model 3. Is it a deal breaker? Just back from a spin. Its a very comfortable ride on even half decent roads.

J-W · 20-10-2020 10:23pm

embraer170 wrote: »

I agree, but the question is how would one compare an American assembly line that has been producing Models 3s for three years, and a rather new Chinese assmbly line. That, combined with the LFP battery uncertainty, I am totally undecided.

Tesla US team would have implemented every improvement and lesson learned from Fremont on the Chinese lines with all the latest equipment that wouldn't be cost effective to retrofit in US.
That's why every new plant is better than the last

ted1 · 20-10-2020 10:30pm

embraer170 wrote: »

I agree, but the question is how would one compare an American assembly line that has been producing Models 3s for three years, and a rather new Chinese assmbly line. That, combined with the LFP battery uncertainty, I am totally undecided.

I’d rate the Chinese as better. Lessons learnt and using a purpose built factory built on a greenfield site. With better quality control.

When I was working in Intel all the new fabs were producing much better product than the older sites. The American sites had the worst quality

Odauto · 20-10-2020 10:40pm

embraer170 wrote: »

I agree, but the question is how would one compare an American assembly line that has been producing Models 3s for three years, and a rather new Chinese assmbly line. That, combined with the LFP battery uncertainty, I am totally undecided.

The Chinese assembly line will more consistently produce quality cars. They will have learned from the mistakes of the Fermont factory.
The quality of the cars coming off the assembly line is still hit and miss. I took delivery last November and there were an number of issue with the car that were due to poor quality control. The boot didn't latch properly, the bonnet was crooked and needed adjustment and there were a number of small but obvious body and interior defects (most of which were later fixed by Tesla). All the issues were minor and should have be caught by QC.
I got a ceramic coating done last week and they guys noticed that the bolts holding on the back passenger door were not properly tightened. Having said all that, I've been in model 3s that are flawless.
I'm sure the the quality of cars assembles in the US is getting better but I think the Chinese cars will be more consistently better quality cars.

Geeyfds53573 · 20-10-2020 10:43pm

Odauto wrote: »

The Model S has adaptive air suspension. Model 3 doesn't yet but apparently air suspension is coming for the Model 3. Is it a deal breaker? Just back from a spin. Its a very comfortable ride on even half decent roads.

No not a deal breaker just wondered had anyone noticed a similar observation. Thanks for the info.

EVGuy · 21-10-2020 9:35am

Old_Sport wrote: »

It's so weird that they say November on their page but when I contacted them they told me the next shipment is only arriving in January.

Pretty normal, mine said July last year and the car arrived at the end of March this year. :rolleyes:

slave1 wrote: »

Totally agree but the chrome delete will hit poor auld aftermarketers

They'll just start doing re-chrome kits instead.

embraer170 wrote: »

On the other hand, the ID3 also doesn't seem like a bad car...

Have you driven an ID.3? There is no comparison. Make sure you test both before deciding.

AndyBoBandy · 21-10-2020 9:38am

guy on the Facebook group ordered a Model 3 and collected it 6 days later..... must be the fastest turnaround to date..

21-10-2020 9:40am

I'd like to see the quality of the M3's coming out of China, my greatest fear would be getting a car with lots of issues.

Lumen · 21-10-2020 10:16am

Odauto wrote: »

The Model S has adaptive air suspension. Model 3 doesn't yet but apparently air suspension is coming for the Model 3. Is it a deal breaker? Just back from a spin. Its a very comfortable ride on even half decent roads.

As far as I know that was a rumour back in Feb 2020 but has since been doubted/debunked, including by Elon.

The main benefit of air suspension is road noise reduction due to mechanical decoupling, although it's also useful for self-levelling e.g. when towing or carrying cases of wine back from France.

drumm23 · 21-10-2020 10:24am

When do we expect the Model Y to make it out here?

EVGuy · 21-10-2020 10:25am

When Berlin production is up to speed.

drumm23 · 21-10-2020 1:44pm

EVGuy wrote: »

When Berlin production is up to speed.

So could be 18 months plus?
Wow. That's a fair wait.
Thanks though

21-10-2020 2:01pm

Surely the model y will be shipped to Ireland from the U.S or China ?

AndyBoBandy · 21-10-2020 2:07pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely the model y will be shipped to Ireland from the U.S or China ?

Why would they when they know they're about to start building them in the same economic jurisdiction as Ireland, and only a few hours away by road & ferry!

EVGuy · 21-10-2020 2:09pm

Exactly, and those that want a car now and won't wait, can always buy a 3 now and swap later/get the Y as a 2nd car, as happens a lot in the US.

nc6000 · 21-10-2020 2:51pm

One of the Tesla Sandyford people told me we won't see the Model Y here until the Berlin Gigafactory is open.

Jog501 · 22-10-2020 10:53am

Does anybody know if tesla will be bringing PCP to the Irish market for the Model 3?

jusmeig · 22-10-2020 11:11am

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd like to see the quality of the M3's coming out of China, my greatest fear would be getting a car with lots of issues.

https://electrek.co/2020/08/03/tesla-made-in-china-cars-lead-market-quality

The evidence available online would seem to suggest its better.
But you know fakenews etc. Everything is made in China these days!

drumm23 · 22-10-2020 11:23am

The China made cars will be fine. Bizarre to suggest otherwise.

redcup342 · 22-10-2020 12:16pm

The paint on the Model 3s out of Freemont is absolutely awful, I haven't seen Model 3 that didn't have some issues with the paint.

Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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