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Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

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    #3692
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,935 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    The Nal wrote: »
    Hes beaten Vick, Barboza and Cowboy since losing two in a row. Hardly a big endorsement. The UFC clearly giving him a push though.
    Probably cos he likes to swang and bang, instead of utilising his exceptionally good wrestling.


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    #3693
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,536 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Probably cos he likes to swang and bang, instead of utilising his exceptionally good wrestling.

    Yeah. Will be interesting to see if he fights smarter from now on.


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    #3694
    [Deleted User]
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    McGregor would batter Gaethje. Khabib may have stacked his record against plumbers and plasterers but at least he has wins over McGregor, Dos Anjos and Poirier. Gaethje has lost to the two half decent fighters he has fought. Wins over Barboza, Johnson, James Vick...


    McGregor would have more taxing sparring sessions.


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    #3695
    D'Agger
    Registered Users Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭D'Agger


    The Nal wrote: »
    Yeah. Will be interesting to see if he fights smarter from now on.
    He won't

    Guy has some brilliant tools and still fights like a zombie


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    #3696
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,935 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    D'Agger wrote: »
    He won't

    Guy has some brilliant tools and still fights like a zombie
    He's shown a bit more intelligence in his last few fights, instead of rushing in head first, so he shows signs of being able to change his style up a bit so he doesn't end up braindead by his mid thirties.


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    #3697
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    The Nal wrote: »
    Hes beaten Vick, Barboza and Cowboy since losing two in a row. Hardly a big endorsement. The UFC clearly giving him a push though.

    He annihilated the three of them. How are they giving him a push? He's earned it. His losses were in absolute wars too. One against a former lightweight champion, one against a future interim lightweight champion.

    Why is McGregor battering Cerrone, albeit more quickly, noteworthy and Gaethje doing the same not?

    It'll not happen but McGregor-Gaethje would be an unreal fight and he'd be a worthy opponent.


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    #3698
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,536 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Why is McGregor battering Cerrone, albeit more quickly, noteworthy and Gaethje doing the same not?

    I don't think that
    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    It'll not happen but McGregor-Gaethje would be an unreal fight and he'd be a worthy opponent.

    Agree

    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    He annihilated the three of them. How are they giving him a push?

    Because hes a personality who sells fights and he was given three easy fights to get back on track. Smart from Dana.


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    #3699
    D'Agger
    Registered Users Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭D'Agger


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    He's shown a bit more intelligence in his last few fights, instead of rushing in head first, so he shows signs of being able to change his style up a bit so he doesn't end up braindead by his mid thirties.
    I still think if he gets cracked then he'll revert to type and try swing his way out of it - which to be fair, has worked for him plenty but I'd hope you're right because he has plenty of tools available to him as a fighter


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    #3700
    Ush1
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    I think McGregor would butcher Gaejthe to be honest.


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    #3701
    pastorbarrett
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    Gaejthe fight won't happen so all immaterial.


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    #3702
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,561 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Gaejthe style is perfect for a guy like Conor,
    Conor would ko him early .

    Everyone always talks about his wrestling but iv never seen it is it good ?


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    #3703
    Doff
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    I think Conor would walk through Gaejthe. Would be very interesting to see how Catholic Conor copes when Gaejthe isn't holding back in the pressers.


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    #3704
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,105 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Gaejthe style is perfect for a guy like Conor,
    Conor would ko him early .

    Everyone always talks about his wrestling but iv never seen it is it good ?

    NCAA Division 1 All-American

    Which means he was among the top few wrestlers in the top division, of the top league. Very high stsndard


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    #3705
    derfderf
    Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Mellor wrote: »
    NCAA Division 1 All-American

    Which means he was among the top few wrestlers in the top division, of the top league. Very high stsndard

    Gaethje was asked about it, and he said he wasn't the best offensively, but he was always very hard to take down. If that's true it makes him a bad match up for khabib.


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    #3706
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,105 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    derfderf wrote: »
    Gaethje was asked about it, and he said he wasn't the best offensively, but he was always very hard to take down. If that's true it makes him a bad match up for khabib.
    Plus the general consensus is that freestyle has better takedowns and folkstyle has better escapes and mat wrestling.

    Guys like Askren and Gaethje are always saying that the “funky”” nature of folkstyle compared to freestyle would give Khabib the biggest issues. I’d love to see it tested tbh.


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    #3707
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    McGregor is the worst possible matchup for gathje, it wouldn't last a minute


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    #3708
    derfderf
    Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    US2 wrote: »
    McGregor is the worst possible matchup for gathje, it wouldn't last a minute

    The first few times i saw Gaethje fight i thought Conor would give him brain damage if they fought. He's gotten a bit craftier lately, but i still think he gets messed up.


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    #3709
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Doff wrote: »
    I think Conor would walk through Gaejthe. Would be very interesting to see how Catholic Conor copes when Gaejthe isn't holding back in the pressers.

    Conor changes for each fight but in the end apart from Khabib there was always respect after, even after Aldo he went over to him and had a word with him. Gaejthe can talk smack but Conor will destroy him on that line, suits Conor either way. By being all nice and stuff with Cerrone then absolutely destroying him showed it didn't matter wary Conor does the presser his in Octagon IQ and class is always there. It's just a smokescreen 99% of the time. What's exciting about Conor is he's evolving knowing that the bigger guys can take the punches more so switching up his arsenal that fighters don't realise he has or most ppl don't, shoulder strikes case in point.


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    #3710
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    Conor changes for each fight but in the end apart from Khabib there was always respect after, even after Aldo he went over to him and had a word with him. Gaejthe can talk smack but Conor will destroy him on that line, suits Conor either way. By being all nice and stuff with Cerrone then absolutely destroying him showed it didn't matter wary Conor does the presser his in Octagon IQ and class is always there. It's just a smokescreen 99% of the time. What's exciting about Conor is he's evolving knowing that the bigger guys can take the punches more so switching up his arsenal that fighters don't realise he has or most ppl don't, shoulder strikes case in point.

    Do you think if khabib hadn’t gone postal after the fight Conor would have offered his hand like every other time?


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    #3711
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Do you think if khabib hadn’t gone postal after the fight Conor would have offered his hand like every other time?

    We'll never know but I doubt it, this one was absolutely personal. I think he would of recognised that Khabib was the better fighter on the night and would still want a rematch as he learns from defeats aswell as wins. They will need a ring of steel police wise for the rematch.


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    #3712
    rob316
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    Cowboy saying he got flat pay which is probably about as true as McGregor claims he got 80m.


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    #3713
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    rob316 wrote: »
    Cowboy saying he got flat pay which is probably about as true as McGregor claims he got 80m.

    Is there any after fight interviews with Cerrone? (not the cage interview) ...haven't seen anything crop up


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    #3714
    H8GHOTI
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭H8GHOTI


    rob316 wrote: »
    Cowboy saying he got flat pay which is probably about as true as McGregor claims he got 80m.

    Maybe he’s expecting a visit from the IRS. Seriously though, strange comment to make if not true. He also said his nose and orbital bone were not broken and the UFC shouldn’t be saying otherwise. Lots of misinformation out there.


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    #3715
    H8GHOTI
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭H8GHOTI


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Is there any after fight interviews with Cerrone? (not the cage interview) ...haven't seen anything crop up

    Haven’t seen anything either. Would like to hear his thoughts on the fight now, after having time to reflect. He’s keeping pretty quiet.


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    #3716
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,105 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    rob316 wrote: »
    Cowboy saying he got flat pay which is probably about as true as McGregor claims he got 80m.
    Why is it unbelievable that he’s got a flat payout?
    A flat bonus doesn’t mean no bonus.


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    #3717
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Mellor wrote: »
    Why is it unbelievable that he’s got a flat payout?
    A flat bonus doesn’t mean no bonus.

    He said 'I didn't get PPV money.'


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    #3718
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 17,982 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    His disclosed pay is 200k I refuse to believe he fought McGregor for that. He had to have gotten at least 7 figures.


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    #3719
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,105 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Still Ill wrote: »
    He said 'I didn't get PPV money.'
    Not getting PPV points doesn’t mean he didn’t get any bonus.
    I seen the quote from Cowboy. He said he got flat money. And people online are interpreting that as he only got his $200k purse. Which is a bit of a leap.
    His purse wasn’t flat. It was 200/200k. So the “flat money” was likely a fixed bonus, rather than an increasing one.


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    #3720
    Homelander
    Registered Users Posts: 4,365 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Also couldn't the UFC have said we'll give you 200K (plus possible bonus) to fight McGregor, and we'll give you a new contract with excellent rates for your next few fights...if you take the McGregor fight.

    Why wouldn't Cowboy take that? It's guaranteed decent money in the bank no matter how good/bad he performs in his next few.


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    #3721
    H8GHOTI
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭H8GHOTI


    He did say he signed a new multi fight deal for this fight on improved terms. Was surprised to see €200k. I hope he got something extra undisclosed.


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