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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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    #5462
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I can live with a predominant pull out. I suspect that the date was more chosen for politicalthan practical reasons.

    That said, not convinced a 100% withdrawal is the best idea. Afgh will still be prone to influence, from China, Russia, whoever. Would prefer that influence be from us.


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    #5463
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    I can live with a predominant pull out. I suspect that the date was more chosen for politicalthan practical reasons.

    That said, not convinced a 100% withdrawal is the best idea. Afgh will still be prone to influence, from China, Russia, whoever. Would prefer that influence be from us.

    Us? This is an Irish forum.


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    #5464
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Seriously?

    Kavanaugh and Barrett in particular were chosen for explicitly for their viewpoints on Abortion , Marriage and Gay rights in general.

    And those viewpoints have absolutely nothing to do with the law.

    They were, but if you look at their record so far they haven't been paying back the wing nuts who championed them.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #5465
    [Deleted User]
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Us? This is an Irish forum.

    Manic is American...


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    #5466
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Manic is American...

    Which would explain his keen level of interest in US politics.

    His level of investment in the topic would be very weird for someone who wasnt American...


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    #5467
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Bambi wrote: »
    Which would explain his keen level of interest in US politics.

    His level of investment in the topic would be very weird for someone who wasnt American...

    It wouldn't be though... The US are a massive player in global politics and their policies have global reach. On top of that, plenty of Irish people have lots of family in the US. Eg most of my family are US born. Also, you post in this topic so that's pretty weird by your own logic.


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    #5468
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Bambi wrote: »
    Which would explain his keen level of interest in US politics.

    His level of investment in the topic would be very weird for someone who wasnt American...

    Who cares? US politics is an interesting topic, much more interesting than Irish politics. And American foreign affairs can have a dramatic effect on a country like ours. If people find it interesting, just live and let live and let people enjoy what they are interested in?

    Would you like to discuss any of Biden's policies or are you just going to keep posting about why you're so much smarter and superior than us because you are not as interested in US politics as some of us?


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    #5469
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I don’t know if it is fair to say I have a keen interest in US politics as much as I do in US policies and their creation. It is a subtle difference.


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    #5470
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It wouldn't be though... The US are a massive player in global politics and their policies have global reach. On top of that, plenty of Irish people have lots of family in the US. Eg most of my family are US born. Also, you post in this topic so that's pretty weird by your own logic.

    Investment is the word here.

    I'm primarily interested in US politics for the effects it has on Ireland and Europe.

    Irish people so heavily invested the partisan party politics of the US though. Bit odd in my view tbh, don't see many people on here getting excited about the party politics of Germany or France, which has a greater impact on us.


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    #5471
    [Deleted User]
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Investment is the word here.

    I'm primarily interested in US politics for the effects it has on Ireland and Europe.

    Irish people so heavily invested the partisan party politics of the US though. Bit odd in my view tbh, don't see many people on here getting excited about the party politics of Germany or France, which has a greater impact on us.

    Are you also annoyed by Irish people being heavily invested in British football?

    If yes, could you point to your posts where you have proclaimed this annoyance?

    If not, would you like to explain why this is different?


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    #5472
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Are you also annoyed by Irish people being heavily invested in British football?

    If yes, could you point to your posts where you have proclaimed this annoyance?

    If not, would you like to explain why this is different?

    I dont have access to the Soccer forum. :)


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    #5473
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Bambi wrote: »
    I dont have access to the Soccer forum. :)

    So what is the answer to my first question?


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    #5474
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users Posts: 886 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Are you also annoyed by Irish people being heavily invested in British football?

    If yes, could you point to your posts where you have proclaimed this annoyance?

    If not, would you like to explain why this is different?

    I've seen this pattern before. Aristotle's boom-bust cycle begins again as he starts on his quest for the threadban hattrick:pac:


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    #5475
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    I've seen this pattern before. Aristotle's boom-bust cycle begins again as he starts on his quest for the threadban hattrick:pac:

    Yep, it's called having a discussion.

    Would you like to discuss any of Biden's policies?


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    #5476
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,061 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    I've seen this pattern before. Aristotle's boom-bust cycle begins again as he starts on his quest for the threadban hattrick:pac:

    To be fair, trying to have a genuine discussion with a Trump supporter would test the patience of Job


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    #5477
    [Deleted User]
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Investment is the word here.

    I'm primarily interested in US politics for the effects it has on Ireland and Europe.

    Irish people so heavily invested the partisan party politics of the US though. Bit odd in my view tbh, don't see many people on here getting excited about the party politics of Germany or France, which has a greater impact on us.

    But you yourself are not so subtly pushing partisan nonsense that the American right are pushing. Eg the below post doesn't relate remotely to the US relationship to Europe or Ireland and is more an effort to take a jab at Biden... Why are you so invested?
    Bambi wrote: »
    So I was watching the youbetube there and they said Biden hasnt held a press conference in 57 days, apparently the longest presidential gap in a 100 years. Must be too busy or something.


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    #5478
    hotmail.com
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    A rather odd and political date to use to withdraw troops from Afghanistan.

    PR machine alive and kicking in the White House.


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    #5479
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,184 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    A rather odd and political date to use to withdraw troops from Afghanistan.

    PR machine alive and kicking in the White House.

    a politician engaging in PR? say it aint so.


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    #5480
    [Deleted User]
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    A rather odd and political date to use to withdraw troops from Afghanistan.

    PR machine alive and kicking in the White House.

    Trumpists: Why isn't Biden pulling out of Afghanistan like he said he would? :mad:

    *pulls out of Afghanistan*

    Trumpists: yEaH bUt NoT ThAt DAte :mad:


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    #5481
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Trumpists: Why isn't Biden pulling out of Afghanistan like he said he would? :mad:

    *pulls out of Afghanistan*

    Trumpists: yEaH bUt NoT ThAt DAte :mad:

    People on these threads: bring everything back to Trump.


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    #5482
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,184 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    People on these threads: bring everything back to Trump.

    what is odd about biden picking that date?


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    #5483
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,845 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    People on these threads: bring everything back to Trump.

    Trump brings everything back to Trump. Trump had already agreed to the withdrawal by May 1. September 11 is a delay

    https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973604904/trumps-deal-to-end-war-in-afghanistan-leaves-biden-with-a-terrible-situation


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    #5484
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,520 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    A rather odd and political date to use to withdraw troops from Afghanistan.

    PR machine alive and kicking in the White House.

    Well I think a previous President wanted a military parade for the 4th of July so I think I prefer this type of PR.


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    #5485
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,494 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    People on these threads: bring everything back to Trump.

    And people on the Trump thread brought everything back to Obama!

    The next is always going to be contrasted with the previous.


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    #5486
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    And people on the Trump thread brought everything back to Obama!

    The next is always going to be contrasted with the previous.

    Ah but the Trump stuff is on another level.

    Just looks a bit weird now at this stage.


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    #5487
    Tell me how
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Ah but the Trump stuff is on another level.

    Just looks a bit weird now at this stage.

    You thought it was weird when he was being discussed on here while he was President.

    What I think is weird is you constantly trying to get people to stop calling him out for how he performed either as a President or as an individual.


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    #5488
    [Deleted User]
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    People on these threads: bring everything back to Trump.

    Do you believe that Biden pulling troops out of Afghanistan is a good thing or a bad thing?

    If a good thing, why are you acting so negatively about it?

    If he said he was pulling troops out next week you would probably still say "but why not this week?"


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    #5489
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,061 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    People on these threads: bring everything back to Trump.

    Only in response to those who sat on their hands and said nothing while Trump did infinitely worse things.

    It is to demonstrate the hypocrisy of those posters, who are not commenting in good faith.

    But then again, nuance and context is lost on those that supported that buffoon for 4 years. He numbs the brain.


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    #5490
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Do you believe that Biden pulling troops out of Afghanistan is a good thing or a bad thing?

    If a good thing, why are you acting so negatively about it?

    If he said he was pulling troops out next week you would probably still say "but why not this week?"

    Because it's just the same tired old nonsense with the Trump supporters.

    It's like that one that was around during the election who claimed to be pro-choice and pro-LGBT but would vote for Mike Pence over Kamala Harris because she's 'odious'.


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    #5491
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,845 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The Capitol Officer who shot and killed that insurrectionist woman with the backpack that climbed through the doorframe during the attack in January, will not face criminal charges.


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