New bin collecting

rizzodun wrote: »

Why do you have to give barna €20 quid per quarter for the privilege of using a pay per lift option? What does that charge cover?

Haven't a clue, it just states 'service charge', just another add on, what I can't understand is why they charge for collecting recycling as they make a lot of money from it themselves.

glaswegian wrote: »

does the greenstar depot in finisklin take black bags of household waste,and at what price if they do??

Not sure about foodstuffs...I've dumped a few small items with them and there seems to be a €5 min charge, but I may well be wrong.

It's crazy that our inept Co. Council is able to make a bye-law that can limit or eliminate options for a service that is paid for by the consumer privately.

I'd say barna won't have many former 'buy a bin bag/tag' customers picking up their new options wich all seem expensive and more bother compared to the simple option of buying a bag at the shop which a lot of people in town have done for ages. Lots of households in this town struggling at the moment, my house included, and we all want pay as you go without big charges that have to be paid all at once.

We are with Greenstar for the last 3 years, and they have put the price up slightly every single year, this year their leaflet said they were putting the standing monthly charge up a bit but the price per bin was going down slightly. I don't have the leaflet to hand but when I got it last week I remember calaculating that it was still an increase for what we would use. But I don't remember paying 20 euro initial charge that must be new. 20 euro for the privilege of paying them a standing monthly charge as well as a tenner each bin, ffs what a joke.

If the Barna pay per lift plan is 20 for 3 months, plus 9 per bin, and 2.50 extra if overweight, than putting out 6 bins in 3 months would be 74 euro, if say 2 of them were overweight, 79 euro, equalling just over 13 euro per bin.

Agree with the previous poster, why not just charge 13 each lift then. Having a standing charge as well as a pay per lift charge defeats the purpose of pay as you go. I can't afford to just shell out 20 euro all at once every three months for nothing.

Just read that pdf, looks like this is actually in part, due to recently introduced EU regulations. Is there any part of our lives that they can't affect without the citizens having a say in it. How do they expect to force people to pay for and present a food bin? Do you have to pay if the bin is empty? Also mentions that our recycling bins will be microchipped! Surely there are better uses for technology and this bs is adding to the cost which is always incresing. Also, says that general waste bins deemed to have too much food waste will not be collected and will get a sticker to say they are contaminated. How will they figure that? Are they gonna crawl into my bin?

I'd wager the bin men are none too happy about these new duties, typical example of those who are not going to have to actually do the work making it harder and more complicated.

I know it's only bins but IMO it exemplifies the way we will live from now on under the EU and our own corrupt and inept government: forced to pay a standing charge for everything they can think of, be it your bin, your water, tv/internet (when the Tv license becomes the broadcast charge), anything you need they will charge for, and in some cases you get charged whether you use it or not, meanwhile your property tax and income tax goes into a black hole and provides you with nothing in return.

What if I have my rent and other bills due or I need to buy oil, etc. on the week when they want to collect this food bin, am I meant to take money out of the paltry amount I have left over for buying food, to pay for an empty bin? When you can barely afford your weekly shopping you don't waste much food, I can tell you with certainty. The truth is the only way I could possibly fill a bin fortnightly with food is if I dump all the food I buy directly into it upon returning from the supermarket!

This really angers me but you know what, I can hardly see this being enforced in any way, no one I've spoken to seems to understand it, and I doubt the bin men really want the extra hassle or care how often I put out my bin or if a few banana peels make its way into my general waste. I certainly don't plan on paying for this food waste bin every two weeks if it's not full, and they can't force me to. Since the whole point is to reduce the general waste whch is landfill waste, the food waste, which is biodegradable, should just be included with the standing monthly charge. That way people will be encouraged to use it and at least then the standing charge could be justified. People will only be encouraged to avoid mking landfill waste if it will save them money. Making it more complicated and more expensive while forcing people into paying standing charges and putting a bin out on designated days will never work. Maybe in Germany, but not here.

Bebo stunnah wrote: »

I had a good look at the thing Barna are sending out (I forget a few of the details)


From my understanding, they do fortnightly collections, you do not have to put your bins out every 2 weeks. But that means they're doing half the collections but cost more.

No, if you read the PDF from the council that was posted earlier it says you have to put the new food waste bin (which greenstar have not provided or mentioned in their pamphlet) out for collection every two weeks, to avoid the food rotting and such. What I can see happening is you top up your card and they start deducting 6 euro every two weeks for that bin on top of the standing charge which will cost you a fortune before you even get to putting out your recycling or general waste. I can't believe the local papers are not covering this, another blatant rip off being shoved down everyone's throats with poor communication and confusing everyone. The irony is they think this is going to deter illegal dumping and burning of waste, quite the opposite IMO.

Bebo stunnah wrote: »

I'd say that was way down the list. Money was the top 3 things the companies and council had

Yeah but obviously they are not going to put that in the materials they released. Again, if you read the pdf from the sligo co council it has all the info, including the new rules and their supposed reasons for them, and they say the main reasons are to discourage landfill waste and illegal disposal of waste, and to be able to record the amounts of each type of waste to please the EU, who can penalize countries for non compliance.

It suggests wrapping your food waste (of which I would have very little) in newspapers (which I never buy) to discourage odors and pest issues related to having a bin of rotting food sitting for two weeks. Ffs it'll be a full time job just organizing my rubbish, on top of that I'll need to find a second job just to afford to have it taken away. I'd say more people will be looking for less than legal alternatives rather than use this overcomplicated and overpriced new system.