BDO Lake World Championship

Ultimate Seduction · 01-01-2019 11:04am #1

Starting this Saturday afternoon on Quest (Sky CH 144) and Eurosport

Hard to see past Glen Durant and Lisa Ashton again, fancy Unterbuchner and Veenstra to do quite well.

13:00 – Mark McGeeney (ENG) v Derk Telnekes (NED)

14.15 – Jim Widmayer (USA) v Nigel Heydon (ENG)

15.30 – Lisa Ashton (ENG) v Mikuru Suzuki (JPN)

16.00 – Martin Phillips (WAL) v Conan Whitehead (ENG)

Evening session:

19:00 – Paul Hogan (ENG) v Wesley Newton (ENG)

20.15 – Sharon Prins (NED) v Roz Bulmer (ENG)

20.45 – Mal Cuming (AUS) v Justin Thompson (AUS)

22.00 – Wesley Harms (NED) v Tony O’Shea (ENG)

Sunday 6th January

Afternoon session:

13:00 – Scott Waites (ENG) v Jeffrey Van Egdom (BEL)

14.15 – Brian Lokken (DEN) v Krzysztof Kciuk (POL)

15.30 – Deta Hedman (ENG) v Maria O’Brien (ENG)

16.00 – Richard Veenstra (NED) v Jim Widmayer (USA)/Nigel Heydon (ENG)

Evening session:

19:00 – Roger Janssen (BEL) v Wouter Vaes (NED)

20.15 – Fallon Sherrock (ENG) v Corrine Hammond (AUS)

20.45 – Mark McGrath (NZL) v Adam Smith-Neale (ENG)

22.00 – Wayne Warren (WAL) v Mark Layton (WAL)

Monday 7th January

Afternoon session:

13:00 – David Cameron (CAN) v Andy Hamilton (ENG)

14.15 – Oliver Ferenc (SBR) v Ryan Hogarth (SCO)

15.30 – Willem Mandigers (NED) v Paul Hogan (ENG)/Wesley Newton (ENG)

Evening session:

19:00 – Michael Unterbuchner (GER) v Mal Cuming (AUS)/Justin Thompson (AUS)

20.15 – Anastasia Dobromyslova (RUS) v Laura Turner (ENG)

20.45 – Jim Williams (WAL) v Roger Janssen – (BEL)/Wouter Vaes (NED)

22.00 – Daniel Day (ENG) v Dean Reynolds (WAL)

Tuesday 8th January

Afternoon session:

13:00 – Dave Parletti (ENG) v Brian Lokken (DEN)/Krzysztof Kciuk (POL)

14.15 – Scott Mitchell (ENG) v Oliver Ferenc (SRB)/Ryan Hogarth (SCO)

15.30 – Aileen De Graaf (NED) v Paula Jacklin (ENG)

16.00 – Ross Montgomery (SCO) v Scott Baker (ENG)

Evening session:

19:00 – Glen Durrant (ENG) v Mark McGrath (NZL)/Adam Smith-Neale (ENG)

20.15 – Lorraine Winstanley (ENG) v Casey Gallagher (ENG)

20.45 – Chris Landman (NED) v Kyle McKinstry (NIR)

22.00 – Gary Robson (ENG) v David Cameron (CAN)/Andy Hamilton (ENG)

Wednesday 9th January

Afternoon session:

14.45 – Trina Gulliver MBE (ENG) v Karolina Podgorska (POL)

Snipe23 · 01-01-2019 4:47pm

How will Andy Hamilton the hammer will get on at BDO world championships after leaving the PDC is he worth a 20 for an outright outsider bet .

ebbsy · 01-01-2019 5:26pm

Do the BBC not cover this, or am I behind the times ?

buster180 · 01-01-2019 6:07pm

ebbsy wrote: »

Do the BBC not cover this, or am I behind the times ?

The BBC stopped showing it last year. It was on Channel 4 and Eurosport (i think)

Oasis1974 · 01-01-2019 6:12pm

Prize money was woeful I remember when it was on the BBC. Even though I liked the small venue they had it in Lakeside? Women playing now as well fair play.

Bob Harris · 01-01-2019 11:30pm

Ross the Boss to lift it this year.

millhouse · 01-01-2019 11:41pm

Durrant deserves to be a strong favourite but no cert in my mind. Mcgeeney , unterbuchner, mitchell even jim williams have all won multiple tournaments this year on the circuit so all capable. Durrant should have been knocked out a couple of times in 2017 and went to sudden death in 2018 so there may be value to be had elsewhere. It's a shame it's not on normal terrestrial TV. Irrespective of the noisey neighbours over on the PDC it's still the original and will always hold a special place for all genuine darts fans.

flazio · 01-01-2019 11:42pm

buster180 wrote: »

The BBC stopped showing it last year. It was on Channel 4 and Eurosport (i think)

Channel 4 and BT Sports.

Rikand · 01-01-2019 11:43pm

Throw a sneaky 5'er on Fallon Sherrock every year. Hits regular 140's but struggles on the finishes a touch. Still, could be her year just about any year as long as someone beats Ashton for her

millhouse · 01-01-2019 11:43pm

Quest show the afternoon sessions and Eurosport have the evening sessions. Bbc , CH4 and Bt Sport have all pulled out.

millhouse · 01-01-2019 11:48pm

Ashton for me in the ladies. An stone wall cert. So consistent, capable of the big scores and lethal on the doubles. No other lady will get close. Sherrock throws far too many wayward darts, hedman , gulliver all past it and anastasia too in and out, she is possibly capable of matching Ashton on her best form but Lisa is buying money.!

mdwexford · 02-01-2019 12:34am

Like to see The Hammer do well.

At his pomp there was no better player at those two dart finishes.

sc86 · 02-01-2019 12:39am

il watch it , and id love to attend , but jesus the field is dire
hope it throws up few decent games

durrants to lose really , interesting to see if q school will distract the players , so many doing it
the euro q school is on in middle of it , so could see players have to leave and then return
crazy situation to have and really disrespects the event , but thats where the bdo is now

Tarzann · 02-01-2019 1:24pm

Euro Q-school entrants announced:

https://www.pdc.tv/news/2019/01/02/2019-pdc-european-qualifying-school-entries

Not sure if any are playing in the BDO, didn't go through all the names!

Bob Harris · 02-01-2019 1:40pm

Tarzann wrote: »

Euro Q-school entrants announced:

https://www.pdc.tv/news/2019/01/02/2019-pdc-european-qualifying-school-entries

Not sure if any are playing in the BDO, didn't go through all the names!

A few entrants I spotted are:

Co Stompé
Co Stompe Jnr

Jeff Smith

Roxy-James Rodriguez
Rusty-Jake Rodriguez

Jerry Hendriks
Jimmy Hendriks
Leo Hendriks

A lot of European names in there, hardly an English one among them.

sc86 · 02-01-2019 3:18pm

english do uk q school

nearly 1k entered in that section

be much easier to get through euro q school

Bob Harris · 02-01-2019 7:28pm

sc86 wrote: »

english do uk q school

nearly 1k entered in that section

be much easier to get through euro q school

I was wondering why there were so few seeing as bar MvG and a few others the UK and Ireland have the world's best players by far.

Ultimate Seduction · 02-01-2019 8:02pm

I see young Justin van tergouw entered as well. Hope he gets a card certain to be a world champion.

Petyr Baelish · 02-01-2019 9:34pm

Bob Harris wrote: »

Ross the Boss to lift it this year.

The only thing he'll be lifting will be pints after he loses in the first round. Useless player. How on earth you can tip him to win is beyond comprehension.

I see it didn't take long for the BDO "World Championship" thread to turn into a discussion about Q-school. Says it all really.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 02-01-2019 10:47pm

Even Scott Waites was saying he might give it a go this yr.

Nothing to lose now, a player can drop right back onto the BDO tour for 19 if they fail to gain a card.

The one thing I'm wondering about though is Lakeside prize money. Will a player who switches over and wins a card still be eligible to receive their LS cheque?

Petyr Baelish · 02-01-2019 10:53pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Even Scott Waites was saying he might give it a go this yr.

Nothing to lose now, a player can drop right back onto the BDO tour for 19 if they fail to gain a card.

The one thing I'm wondering about though is Lakeside prize money. Will a player who switches over and wins a card still be eligible to receive their LS cheque?

As I mentioned in the other thread, they only announced the prize money today so I wouldn't be surprised if the cheques fail to materialise for the players regardless of of whether or not they enter Q-School. It would be a handy excuse for the BDO not to pay out though.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 02-01-2019 11:02pm

Petyr Baelish wrote: »

As I mentioned in the other thread, they only announced the prize money today so I wouldn't be surprised if the cheques fail to materialise for the players regardless of of whether or not they enter Q-School. It would be a handy excuse for the BDO not to pay out though.

They used to have a contract that they made the players sign before Lakeside. It stated that a player would forfeit their prize money if they attempted to switch to PDC.

I hardly think it would stand up in court though. I remember Robbie Green challenged it yrs ago and I believe they ended up paying him when threatened with legal proceedings.

Bob Harris · 02-01-2019 11:04pm

Petyr Baelish wrote: »

The only thing he'll be lifting will be pints after he loses in the first round. Useless player. How on earth you can tip him to win is beyond comprehension.

I see it didn't take long for the BDO "World Championship" thread to turn into a discussion about Q-school. Says it all really.

I know my darts. I tipped Big John Henderson for the World Championship.

Petyr Baelish · 02-01-2019 11:08pm

Bob Harris wrote: »

I know my darts. I tipped Big John Henderson for the World Championship.

Well I guess I took the bait didn't I

Ross is muck though, just look at his WC record:

2006: 1st Round (lost to Vincent van der Voort 1–3)
2009: 2nd Round (lost to Ted Hankey 1–4)
2010: 1st Round (lost to Garry Thompson 2–3)
2011: 1st Round (lost to Alan Norris 1–3)
2012: 2nd Round (lost to Tony O'Shea 1–4)
2013: 1st Round (lost to Paul Jennings 1–3)
2014: 2nd Round (lost to Martin Adams 1–4)
2015: Quarter Finals (lost to Martin Adams 1–5)
2016: 1st Round (lost to Jamie Hughes 0–3)
2017: 1st Round (lost to Richard Veenstra 1–3)
2018: 1st Round (lost to Scott Waites 1–3)

DEFTLEFTHAND · 02-01-2019 11:08pm

The Boss must have the most cringeworthy walkon in all of darts.

Watch out for his air guitar.

boomdocker · 02-01-2019 11:20pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

They used to have a contract that they made the players sign before Lakeside. It stated that a player would forfeit their prize money if they attempted to switch to PDC.

I hardly think it would stand up in court though. I remember Robbie Green challenged it yrs ago and I believe they ended up paying him when threatened with legal proceedings.

Remember hearing something earlier in the year about Glenn Durrant, that there was no way he could switch because he was under some contract to BDO and would have had to pay back the £200k he won for winning the world champs the last 2 years, no idea if true or not though?

Ultimate Seduction · 02-01-2019 11:30pm

Petyr Baelish wrote: »

Well I guess I took the bait didn't I

Ross is muck though, just look at his WC record:

2006: 1st Round (lost to Vincent van der Voort 1–3)
2009: 2nd Round (lost to Ted Hankey 1–4)
2010: 1st Round (lost to Garry Thompson 2–3)
2011: 1st Round (lost to Alan Norris 1–3)
2012: 2nd Round (lost to Tony O'Shea 1–4)
2013: 1st Round (lost to Paul Jennings 1–3)
2014: 2nd Round (lost to Martin Adams 1–4)
2015: Quarter Finals (lost to Martin Adams 1–5)
2016: 1st Round (lost to Jamie Hughes 0–3)
2017: 1st Round (lost to Richard Veenstra 1–3)
2018: 1st Round (lost to Scott Waites 1–3)

Jesus he got a tough draw every year didn't he. Jennings the only fella he ever had a hope of beating.

sc86 · 02-01-2019 11:37pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

I see young Justin van tergouw entered as well. Hope he gets a card certain to be a world champion.

hes gona be some player

gona be alot of big names dont get out of q school

Bob Harris · 02-01-2019 11:41pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

The Boss must have the most cringeworthy walkon in all of darts.

Watch out for his air guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMAnzU9sNRA

sc86 · 03-01-2019 10:34am

ross the boss is some tool

sc86 · 03-01-2019 11:26am

https://dartsnews.com/exclusive-european-lakeside-participants-allowed-to-enter-british-q-school/

explains lack of euro bdo players listed

DEFTLEFTHAND · 03-01-2019 5:53pm

They have an archaic qualification system. UK and Irish lads have to go play in a huge amount of events to qualify. This involves widespread travelling, traipsing across Europe and further afield competing in tin pit Opens for terrible prize money.

This can often mean that some of the better players in the system don't even make it to Lakeside due to the excessive costs that come with playing the BDO/WDF circuit.

The Regional guys get a far easier qualifying route. This is why so many dreadful Canadians, yanks, kiwis, Aussies etc always end up at the Worlds.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 03-01-2019 6:04pm

Even the bould Wolfie Adams is missing out this year due to a shoulder injury he suffered earlier in the season. This prevented him from accumulating enough ranking points to qualify.

Never mind the the fact that once back fit he goes and wins the Italian Open in October. :rolleyes:

Makes no sense. No Wolfie but yet some pub player who won the mixed pairs in Melbourne competing.

sc86 · 03-01-2019 7:44pm

how in gods name did oshea get in?
he done q school and would have missed a few months events over that

DEFTLEFTHAND · 03-01-2019 8:25pm

sc86 wrote: »

how in gods name did oshea get in?
he done q school and would have missed a few months events over that

According to his dartsdatabase page he went straight back on the tour the weekend after he failed Q school.

He played 22 events on the BDO circuit last year.

They must have did away with that rule

Ultimate Seduction · 03-01-2019 9:13pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

They have an archaic qualification system. UK and Irish lads have to go play in a huge amount of events to qualify. This involves widespread travelling, traipsing across Europe and further afield competing in tin pit Opens for terrible prize money.

This can often mean that some of the better players in the system don't even make it to Lakeside due to the excessive costs that come with playing the BDO/WDF circuit.

The Regional guys get a far easier qualifying route. This is why so many dreadful Canadians, yanks, kiwis, Aussies etc always end up at the Worlds.

Yep its cracked. The winner of the second biggest major this year plays in the preliminary round. Jeff Smith had to do the same after making the final the previous year.

The Japanese ladies Lisa Ashton is playing is supposed to be unreal, if she beats Lisa shell most likely win it.

callaway92 · 04-01-2019 5:43pm

Does Ross the Boss still have that rotten mole on his arm?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 05-01-2019 6:13am

The one thing for sure is that the 'Justin Credibible Darts' blog is going to make for hot reading over the next 10 days.

Love JC, a funny fcker.

peteeeed · 05-01-2019 3:13pm

No.1 seed wins opening game with average of around 90 , this is going to be a long week

mdwexford · 05-01-2019 3:31pm

Remember this Heydon guy giving Jackpot a scare at the PDC worlds a few years back.

Ultimate Seduction · 05-01-2019 3:34pm

peteeeed wrote: »

No.1 seed wins opening game with average of around 90 , this is going to be a long week

Ah f off with that **** already. How many sub 90 averages did we see at the greatest show on earth last week.

littlesthobo · 05-01-2019 3:41pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Ah f off with that **** already. How many sub 90 averages did we see at the greatest show on earth last week.

Agree with this although I expect some of the early games will be tough viewing.
Widmayer playing solidly here though

Rikand · 05-01-2019 3:46pm

Heydon gets closer to falling over with each throw

nice 116 out though

Ally Dick · 05-01-2019 4:16pm

Wolfie will be sorely missed. Failed to qualify. Same with Silverback. Is Daryl Fitton gone to PDC? He'll win f@ck all there

Ultimate Seduction · 05-01-2019 4:18pm

Ally Dick wrote: »

Wolfie will be sorely missed. Failed to qualify. Same with Silverback. Is Daryl Fitton gone to PDC? He'll win f@ck all there

Silverback is there playing tomorrow I think .

Ally Dick · 05-01-2019 4:21pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Silverback is there playing tomorrow I think .

Sorry. Mea culpa. You are right. Good to see that. Against Wes Harms no less. Might be a decent game

Ally Dick · 05-01-2019 4:23pm

BDO without Bobby George and Tony Green is just not the same

Rikand · 05-01-2019 4:32pm

Ally Dick wrote: »

BDO without Bobby George and Tony Green is just not the same

Bobby George was a relic from a bygone age that needed to be gone. How can you attract people to darts when all you talk about all day long is beating people up.

Rikand · 05-01-2019 4:34pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Silverback is there playing tomorrow I think .

Tonight actually - Down for the evening session on the schedule in the OP

Will I Am Not · 05-01-2019 4:34pm

This could be a tough one for Ashton.

Ally Dick · 05-01-2019 4:37pm

This standard is muck. I suppose the dreadful prize money is no incentive

BDO Lake World Championship

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