Running issues specific to women

eyrie · 09-08-2019 9:57am

For anyone who has actually bought the Stacy Sims book - is it worth getting? Just been listening to one of the podcasts again and it really is fascinating stuff. I have a bad track record for buying books like this and reading the intro before getting distracted and letting them collect dust though, so I'm curious if there's much more in the book beyond the basics she talks about in the podcasts that makes it worth having?

Bluesquare · 09-08-2019 5:54pm

eyrie wrote: »

For anyone who has actually bought the Stacy Sims book - is it worth getting? Just been listening to one of the podcasts again and it really is fascinating stuff. I have a bad track record for buying books like this and reading the intro before getting distracted and letting them collect dust though, so I'm curious if there's much more in the book beyond the basics she talks about in the podcasts that makes it worth having?

I really like the book. It is a bit sciency and jargon loaded and not really a book to be read unless your fully awake .

I started reading you know from the actual start then got restless and skipped straight away to the parts of immediate interest .

Now I reread the parts that interest me over and over when I forget the advice (goldfish brain)and am beginning to start new chapters. I Send snapshots to buddies using Stacey as my back-up. Didn’t I tell ya lads !!!!

So well worth the few cuid . Can be used as a coaster or a moth killer.

eyrie · 12-08-2019 11:14am

Thanks Bluesquare, sounds worth having so, you've convinced me! Now to find some extra stuff I don't need to bring me up to the free shipping amount :pac:

Bluesquare wrote: »

So well worth the few cuid . Can be used as a coaster or a moth killer.

Oh god there's so many tiny moths in my place at the moment, they're driving me mad!

Bluesquare · 25-08-2019 10:01am

Does anybody have a hypothyroidism? Does it effect your running ? Do you think your running performance during certain times of the month is weirder because of this ? How does it effect your recovery?

Baby75 · 25-08-2019 12:09pm

Bluesquare wrote: »

Does anybody have a hypothyroidism? Does it effect your running ? Do you think your running performance during certain times of the month is weirder because of this ? How does it effect your recovery?

Yes, I do I am on tablets for it, it does not effect my performance well I do not think so anyway! but does affect my cycle which is a side effect of the tablets.

its the week before I am due, I find it really affects me, performance-wise I have had some awful days running only for them to arive the day after and my achilles was always niggly that week as well it was my physio that pointed out why to me when I was wondering why I had 1 week out of the month no matter how careful I was it hurt more. but I recovered ok I am careful to make sure I eat well and within the 30 minutes after I finish a run and then eat my meal and loads of water

Good questions though and one to look in to

Huzzah! · 25-08-2019 1:22pm

I listened to an interview with Renee McGregor on my run last week. Renee is a sports and eating disorder dietician. The focus was more on the severe end of overtraining but she, like Stacey Sims, was cautioning against running fasted. Something else I picked up was a suggestion to eat your main meal during the day if you've a training session that evening.

eabha19 · 25-08-2019 2:25pm

For anyone who gets shock absorber run bras I just bought one on amazon - price came up as 28 pound but when I went to buy price came up as 14 euro. Will let ye know if it's the real deal when in arrives on Tuesday.

DBB · 25-08-2019 2:34pm

Huzzah! wrote: »

The focus was more on the severe end of overtraining but she, like Stacey Sims, was cautioning against running fasted.

What's the reasoning behind this Huzzah!? Is it advised just for women, or generally?
I almost always run fasted, but jeepers, there are days when I wonder if it's such a good idea, and have pretty much decided not to run LSRs any more without breakfast on board.
It often seems counter-intuitive to run any distance without fuelling up a few hours beforehand, although I see the logic behind the idea of running fasted too!

RentDayBlues · 25-08-2019 3:40pm

Chaffing - I know not specific to women but after the FD10 mile yesterday I’m in bits! Have previously experienced some on my inner thighs and under the bust line so in prep for yesterday I bought anti chaff cream.

Even before I left I felt it wasn’t working so I quickly put some kinesiology tape over my thighs and across my back. When I got to Phoenix park i put a small amount under each boob. I know the awful heat yesterday made things worse but I have open sores today

Most seems to be from my bra and a line from a running belt that moved up as a I ran and I left it!

Any tips at all? I’m thinking the kinesiology tape might be the best option long term but open to any other suggestions. I’m no slim sally so boobs need a lot of support and there may be some extra flesh I could do with losing but currently that’s not an option for the Dublin Half Marathon in 4 weeks

DBB · 25-08-2019 3:50pm

Ooouuuch

You poor thing.
What brand of bra are you wearing? And what are you wearing on your legs?

RentDayBlues · 25-08-2019 4:00pm

DBB wrote: »

Ooouuuch
You poor thing.
What brand of bra are you wearing? And what are you wearing on your legs?

I have big boobs - 38e so I have a heavy duty sports bra from dunnes. Everything stays put in it but once it’s warm there is chaffing. It is underwired and I know that’s probably contributing - though it might also be the muffin top hitting of them ;(

Would you believe I’m wearing running trousers - the thigh chaffing was right at the top, the the tape completely stopped it yesterday

DBB · 25-08-2019 4:07pm

I've shrunk a bit since all this marathon training, but I wouldn't have been too far off your size... would you invest in an Under Armour bra? My doc got me to go for a really top quality support bra as I was getting boob ligament pain, and the difference in support, comfort and potential chafing is huge. Might be worth trying one to see does it help?

Choc Chip · 25-08-2019 4:34pm

eabha19 wrote: »

For anyone who gets shock absorber run bras I just bought one on amazon - price came up as 28 pound but when I went to buy price came up as 14 euro. Will let ye know if it's the real deal when in arrives on Tuesday.

I live in shockabsorbers but I've ordered a Syrokan because they look similar. Will update when it arrives as to whether it's any good.

It is coming from China (if people have issues with that) but it's about half the price of the shockabsorbers normal sale price so I reckon it's worth trying...

DBB · 25-08-2019 4:47pm

Choc Chip wrote: »

I live in shockabsorbers but I've ordered a Syrokan because they look similar.

Do you know, it's worse I'm getting. It's the Shock Absorber bra I was talking about above, not Under Armour

Anyway, they're really comfy. Look forward to your Syrokan review Choc Chip

RentDayBlues · 25-08-2019 4:50pm

DBB wrote: »

I've shrunk a bit since all this marathon training, but I wouldn't have been too far off your size... would you invest in an Under Armour bra? My doc got me to go for a really top quality support bra as I was getting boob ligament pain, and the difference in support, comfort and potential chafing is huge. Might be worth trying one to see does it help?

I’ll try anything to avoid this pain! Will take a look at the shock absorbers - thank you

DBB · 25-08-2019 5:06pm

RentDayBlues wrote: »

I’ll try anything to avoid this pain! Will take a look at the shock absorbers - thank you

They're inclined to fit a bit small, so I'd suggest heading to Elvery's to try them on. There is a good bit of room for downward adjustment, but your normal size might feel too small. They did for me at least!

Choc Chip · 25-08-2019 6:03pm

DBB wrote: »

They're inclined to fit a bit small, so I'd suggest heading to Elvery's to try them on. There is a good bit of room for downward adjustment, but your normal size might feel too small. They did for me at least!

I wear my normal size because I like to feel 100% properly strapped in. :pac:

muddypaws · 25-08-2019 6:53pm

DBB wrote: »

They're inclined to fit a bit small, so I'd suggest heading to Elvery's to try them on. There is a good bit of room for downward adjustment, but your normal size might feel too small. They did for me at least!

Over the head ones or fastening ones?

Huzzah! · 25-08-2019 7:20pm

DBB wrote: »

What's the reasoning behind this Huzzah!? Is it advised just for women, or generally?
I almost always run fasted, but jeepers, there are days when I wonder if it's such a good idea, and have pretty much decided not to run LSRs any more without breakfast on board.
It often seems counter-intuitive to run any distance without fuelling up a few hours beforehand, although I see the logic behind the idea of running fasted too!

Okay, well, mentoring and the fact that you should really be practicing your pre-DCM breakfast before long runs aside (:p), to clarify, I think it's okay to do easy runs fasted, but workouts and races not so much. The reasoning is to do with a negative impact on hormone levels.

eabha19 · 25-08-2019 8:21pm

RentDayBlues wrote: »

I’ll try anything to avoid this pain! Will take a look at the shock absorbers - thank you

Like I said above there seems to be great offers on the shock absorbers on amazon so try on in elverys and buy online is my tip!

DBB · 25-08-2019 11:38pm

muddypaws wrote: »

Over the head ones or fastening ones?

Fastening ones are yer only man... the ones with two straps at the back, one at the usual place, one higher up. Come to think of it, I put mine on over my head and fasten it

DBB · 25-08-2019 11:42pm

Huzzah! wrote: »

Okay, well, mentoring and the fact that you should really be practicing your pre-DCM breakfast before long runs aside (:p), to clarify, I think it's okay to do easy runs fasted, but workouts and races not so much. The reasoning is to do with a negative impact on hormone levels.

*ahem*
*cough cough*

I have had some practise brekkies, but often just haven't an appetite for breakfast for the early(ish) morning LSRs. I should probably eat less the night before maybe

Baby75 · 26-08-2019 9:26am

DBB wrote: »

*ahem*
*cough cough*

I have had some practise brekkies, but often just haven't an appetite for breakfast for the early(ish) morning LSRs. I should probably eat less the night before maybe

I found it hard to eat in the morning before heading out at first but I think my body has gotten used to it now
I have toast and peanut butter with half a banana or bacon and egg on toast with some coffee and what I have been doing lately is having a zero tab with caffeine in it and a few jellies before I start running long run and tried it on Saturday for the Frank Duffy and worked a treat

quaalude · 26-08-2019 11:41am

eabha19 wrote: »

For anyone who gets shock absorber run bras I just bought one on amazon - price came up as 28 pound but when I went to buy price came up as 14 euro. Will let ye know if it's the real deal when in arrives on Tuesday.

Sounds great - got a link? There are a million sellers of Shock Absorbers on Amazon!

eabha19 · 26-08-2019 2:21pm

quaalude wrote: »

Sounds great - got a link? There are a million sellers of Shock Absorbers on Amazon!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XHQNGSW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Also I got the wrong size and asked them to refund it. They have processed the refund and said I don't need to return it so if anyone is a 32 C I have a pink shock absorber bra to anyone who wants it. I order the 34 C and got it for 14 euro also. The smaller one looks perfect, just to tight on my back rolls!

rxchxy · 26-08-2019 2:31pm

eabha19 wrote: »

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XHQNGSW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks! Just picked 2 up myself

quaalude · 26-08-2019 2:47pm

eabha19 wrote: »

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XHQNGSW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Also I got the wrong size and asked them to refund it. They have processed the refund and said I don't need to return it so if anyone is a 32 C I have a pink shock absorber bra to anyone who wants it. I order the 34 C and got it for 14 euro also. The smaller one looks perfect, just to tight on my back rolls!

Nice one, got 2 for myself there for 14 EUR each, cheers eabha19!

HelenAnne · 26-08-2019 4:45pm

quaalude wrote: »

Nice one, got 2 for myself there for 14 EUR each, cheers eabha19!

different sizes are different prices, and I can't find one in my size for less than £30

Great value in some sizes though - thanks!

eabha19 · 26-08-2019 4:53pm

HelenAnne wrote: »

different sizes are different prices, and I can't find one in my size for less than £30

Great value in some sizes though - thanks!

Did you try ordering it. My size looked like it was 28 pound but when I clicked to buy it gave me an automatic saving that reduced it to 14 euro.

DBB · 26-08-2019 7:53pm

More common sizes seem to be available in different colours, but the price doesn't seem to include VAT, which is snuck in at the end. Anyway, I ordered 2 pink ones yesterday for €35 total incl p+p... not bad at all!
Thanks eabha

py · 27-08-2019 1:37pm

Interesting chat with Renee McGregor which goes into training/racing advice around menstruation and what signs to look out for. Interview starts at around 35:20 and goes into a variety of topics for males and females but the female specific stuff might be useful for those in this thread. https://open.spotify.com/episode/5uFPVhJnBMxfnmlH6cdNKS?si=J6siZxecShyx3wTQbEnWCg

The Black Oil · 27-08-2019 9:16pm

https://twitter.com/katiemlydon/status/1163761585141293057

RentDayBlues · 01-09-2019 3:58pm

Thank you so much for the recommendation on the shock absorber bras. Took it on it’s inaugural run this morning, 17.5km and no chaffing.

Now granted it was a lot cooler than the FD10mile last week so that helped but bra was great.

And an added bonus - my boobs were back where they used to be pre breastfeeding - it was nice to see them again ;0)

DBB · 01-09-2019 5:43pm

RentDayBlues wrote: »

Thank you so much for the recommendation on the shock absorber bras. Took it on it’s inaugural run this morning, 17.5km and no chaffing.

Now granted it was a lot cooler than the FD10mile last week so that helped but bra was great.

And an added bonus - my boobs were back where they used to be pre breastfeeding - it was nice to see them again ;0)

Fantastic news RDB, on all fronts (pardon the pun

)!
I ordered two bargain lovely pink ones on Eabha17's Amazon find, they arrived on Friday. Delighted with them at such a low price

RentDayBlues · 01-09-2019 8:06pm

DBB wrote: »

Fantastic news RDB, on all fronts (pardon the pun )!
I ordered two bargain lovely pink ones on Eabha17's Amazon find, they arrived on Friday. Delighted with them at such a low price

Just ordered one as well!

chickey2 · 01-09-2019 8:31pm

I got my shock absorber bra in the post on Friday! I was comparing it to another one I bought in elverys for 5 times the price and the only difference I can see is the Amazon one doesn't have hi viz piping. I never understood why anyone would need hi viz piping on a bra, as if I'd go out running at night with only a bra on!
Thanks for the link.

eabha19 · 01-09-2019 9:24pm

DBB wrote: »

Fantastic news RDB, on all fronts (pardon the pun )!
I ordered two bargain lovely pink ones on Eabha17's Amazon find, they arrived on Friday. Delighted with them at such a low price

I wore mine yesterday for long run - no chafing, no cuts on my sternum. Have two more (same colour) winging their way to me via amazon. I wouldn't have known about shock absorbers without this thread!

Huzzah! · 01-09-2019 9:25pm

eabha19 wrote: »

I wore mine yesterday for long run - no chafing, no cuts on my sternum. Have two more (same colour) winging their way to me via amazon. I wouldn't have known about shock absorbers without this thread!

I've a pink one for months and they wash so much better than the white ones, too. It's really kept its colour well.

GRACKEA · 07-09-2019 7:22pm

I've recently been diagnosed with endometriosis, and was advised to avoid high impact exercise such as running or any kind of jumping as it can exacerbate pelvic/lower back pain.

Running is my main form of exercise and I was just recently getting into a good routine with long distances.

Is there a way to make running lower impact? Maybe on treadmills or grass? Or reduced distances?

HelenAnne · 07-09-2019 9:58pm

GRACKEA wrote: »

I've recently been diagnosed with endometriosis, and was advised to avoid high impact exercise such as running or any kind of jumping as it can exacerbate pelvic/lower back pain.

Running is my main form of exercise and I was just recently getting into a good routine with long distances.

Is there a way to make running lower impact? Maybe on treadmills or grass? Or reduced distances?

I’d suggest getting assessed by a sports Physio or else by a women’s health Physio - I’d say if they can help you train your core / pelvic floor and make sure you’re engaging them while running then running shouldn’t exacerbate back or pelvic pain. Between you, you could probably work out how long and hard you could run before causing problems?

Good luck!

Bluesquare · 09-09-2019 7:55am

Morning .

Anybody find asthma symptoms are worse at certain times of the month. ?

RentDayBlues · 21-09-2019 7:49pm

So I didn’t get to run the half today due to injury but that’s another days story! Someone recommended EVB shorts - my injuries are down to a very weak core - does anyone find them useful?

Bluesquare · 21-09-2019 7:58pm

RentDayBlues wrote: »

So I didn’t get to run the half today due to injury but that’s another days story! Someone recommended EVB shorts - my injuries are down to a very weak core - does anyone find them useful?

Don’t use them myself - but have some friends that do - they swear by them

chickey2 · 22-09-2019 11:56am

RentDayBlues wrote: »

So I didn’t get to run the half today due to injury but that’s another days story! Someone recommended EVB shorts - my injuries are down to a very weak core - does anyone find them useful?

I have a pair and usually wear them when I'm racing. They're comfy (once you manage to squeeze into them!) and do give some support but I'm not sure if they're compensate for a weak core. They wouldn't do any harm though.

julyjane · 23-09-2019 10:04am

they do provide good support but something like Pilates would do more for your core

Applegirl26 · 25-09-2019 6:58am

Hi ladies, any recommendations on where to buy running leggings for long legs. I need 32" and my usual haunts only sell 29".
Heading into winter training and I need to be warm and toasty. Thanks sisters x

rainbow kirby · 25-09-2019 8:04am

Applegirl26 wrote: »

Hi ladies, any recommendations on where to buy running leggings for long legs. I need 32" and my usual haunts only sell 29".
Heading into winter training and I need to be warm and toasty. Thanks sisters x

Sturdy By Design do a long leg.

Applegirl26 · 25-09-2019 11:15am

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Sturdy By Design do a long leg.

Thanks! I'll check them out.

chickey2 · 26-09-2019 2:04pm

Sweaty Betty is doing a 50% off sale at the moment. It's still dear enough at half price but its really good quality and most of their leggings have pockets!

Kellygirl · 26-09-2019 8:17pm

chickey2 wrote: »

Sweaty Betty is doing a 50% off sale at the moment. It's still dear enough at half price but its really good quality and most of their leggings have pockets!

Thanks for the tip off. I ordered a pair of leggings as love those side pockets.

Running issues specific to women

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