The Offseason 2019

leggo · 11-09-2019 10:09am

Is this on anywhere over here?

ButtersSuki · 11-09-2019 10:27am

leggo wrote: »

Is this on anywhere over here?

It is if you have Kodi....

FIBA have a YouTube channel that do highlights packages every night - from short (3min) to 10min to full games.

irishguitarlad · 11-09-2019 1:59pm

France have eliminated the united states. To be honest their elimination has been coming. Wide open tournament now. Australia vs czech republic next, suppose Australia Will win.

bot43 · 11-09-2019 2:17pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

It is if you have Kodi....

FIBA have a YouTube channel that do highlights packages every night - from short (3min) to 10min to full games.

Can you PM?

ButtersSuki · 11-09-2019 2:54pm

bot43 wrote: »

Can you PM?

Hit me up

Vital Transformation · 11-09-2019 2:57pm

leggo wrote: »

Is this on anywhere over here?

Eurosport have the UK & Ireland TV rights.

LuckyLloyd · 12-09-2019 12:54pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Am I the only one watching the Worlds.......?

A bit meh on International basketball now, tbh.

ButtersSuki · 12-09-2019 1:59pm

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

A bit meh on International basketball now, tbh.

I've always enjoyed it, I see it as very different from the NBA game stylistically, but for me there's a beauty to it. I see it as very much chess v. the athletic US game. I enjoy the shooting, the passing, the spacing, the pick and roll, and esp. the teamwork v the more individual NBA game.

I've been to countless NBA games and countless Euro League/European Championships and the Worlds in Madrid in 2014. The atmosphere at all of the Euro/Worlds competitions iis infinitely better than NBA games. US College has an even better atmosphere to be fair too.

I can completely understand though how many/most would find it boring by comparison.

ButtersSuki · 13-09-2019 8:20am

ButtersSuki wrote: »

I've always enjoyed it, I see it as very different from the NBA game stylistically, but for me there's a beauty to it. I see it as very much chess v. the athletic US game. I enjoy the shooting, the passing, the spacing, the pick and roll, and esp. the teamwork v the more individual NBA game.

I've been to countless NBA games and countless Euro League/European Championships and the Worlds in Madrid in 2014. The atmosphere at all of the Euro/Worlds competitions iis infinitely better than NBA games. US College has an even better atmosphere to be fair too.

I can completely understand though how many/most would find it boring by comparison.

US lose again, to Serbia who were up 25 in the first quarter where the US scored just 7 points. Re. the above, great stat on one of the US pods last night from before the loss to France - US were first in 3 point attempts, and 18th in 3pt FG %. That's shocking tbh. Serbia shot the lights out from 3 in the first quarter (8/9) and Bogdanovic looked like the best player on the court by miles. US were only down 4 at the half but Serbia never really looked like losing always finding a way to score when the US got close. Great game and really worth watching back, esp. for the first quarter display by Serbia.

irishguitarlad · 13-09-2019 9:21am

This is some game, Spain winning by a point 22-21, end if first quarter.

ButtersSuki · 13-09-2019 9:32am

irishguitarlad wrote: »

This is some game, Spain winning by a point 22-21, end if first quarter.

Sadly I'm at work and can't watcvh until later. Any one of the last 4 could win it tbh. In likely order I see France, Australia, Spain and Argentina a somewhat distant 4th, with France as slight favourites and Spain and Australia a toss up tbh.

irishguitarlad · 13-09-2019 9:47am

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Sadly I'm at work and can't watcvh until later. Any one of the last 4 could win it tbh. In likely order I see France, Australia, Spain and Argentina a somewhat distant 4th, with France as slight favourites and Spain and Australia a toss up tbh.

Yeah France look very good. 37-32 in favour of Australia at the moment. Spain are doing alright on defence, it's their offence that's killing them, trying to force the 3. Patty Mills having a great game for Australia. Delavedova looks real hot and bothered after receiving an elbow from Klaver. Spain should target him.

irishguitarlad · 13-09-2019 11:31am

VAMOS!!! What heart Spain showed to come back from 11 down in the last quarter. And then to show all their street smarts and experience to win It. Marc Gasol was massive. Llull was also fantastic, bottled up Mills in overtime and scored two huge threes in second overtime.

irishguitarlad · 13-09-2019 3:34pm

Wow Argentina. They played some game against the french, Scola nearly 40 years of age and playing like a 25 year old. Argentina have no NBA player and they beat a team with 4 of them one of them being the DPOY. Unbelievable. Campazzo is also great to watch.

ButtersSuki · 15-09-2019 10:59am

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Wow Argentina. They played some game against the french, Scola nearly 40 years of age and playing like a 25 year old. Argentina have no NBA player and they beat a team with 4 of them one of them being the DPOY. Unbelievable. Campazzo is also great to watch.

Campazzo could and probably should be in the NBA but he's in Madrid with Real and he's "the man" (particularly this year after Doncic left). He has an NBA buyout in his latest contract and given how he's played in the World's he's likely going to attract a lot of attention next summer. He is very small though and that is likely a contributing factor to teams staying away until now. I suspect he'll be int he NBA next year though on some team.

France looking like they're going to gain some revenge over Australia in the 3rd place game at the moment in a very low scoring game. Australia going to go home without a medal again it seems.

One thing that has stood out for me in this year's World's is the amount of Utah Jazz players who've had good World Cups. I know people are high on them for next year but they have had a lot of key perfomers for many countries.

irishguitarlad · 15-09-2019 12:49pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Campazzo could and probably should be in the NBA but he's in Madrid with Real and he's "the man" (particularly this year after Doncic left). He has an NBA buyout in his latest contract and given how he's played in the World's he's likely going to attract a lot of attention next summer. He is very small though and that is likely a contributing factor to teams staying away until now. I suspect he'll be int he NBA next year though on some team.

France looking like they're going to gain some revenge over Australia in the 3rd place game at the moment in a very low scoring game. Australia going to go home without a medal again it seems.

One thing that has stood out for me in this year's World's is the amount of Utah Jazz players who've had good World Cups. I know people are high on them for next year but they have had a lot of key perfomers for many countries.

Yeah the French beat the Aussies in the end. That Albicy who was poor for them throughout the tournament played really well today so did poirier, who I see plays for the Celtics? Never seen him play for them last year. Gobert was fairly anonymous these last two games.

Fair amount of jazz players alright, I thought Mitchell was the best for the U.S. Jingles had a good game today, was poor against Spain. Gobert was great against the U.S but pants in the last two games. Rubio doesn't count now as he's gone to phoenix haha although he has been excellent.

12 minutes to go until the game begins. I hope Spain win but if Argentina win I won't be too upset as they are great to watch.

irishguitarlad · 15-09-2019 3:06pm

Spain world champions! They played unreal, their defence really smothered argentina. Llull was great, that man is great at putting out fires by getting vital baskets, I thought rudy fernandez was great as well, won a load of rebounds. Also thought Klaver was immense, one of Spain's players of the tournament, crazy good in defence. As for Argentina I feel sorry for them as maybe they got a bit stage frightened. However I do think a couple of their players have put themselves in the nba shop windows, especially laprovittola, deck and campazzo.

K.O.Kiki · 02-10-2019 2:12pm

So the NBA's stipulation for "real height" is finally showing some results.

JJ Barea 6'0" -> 5'10"
Kristaps Porzingis 7'3" -> 7'2.75"
Boban Marjanovic 7'3" -> 7'3.5"

Lonzo Ball has worked on his shooting form - looks much better now!

https://twitter.com/KyleNeubeck/status/1178732029506179077

East is f*cked.

ButtersSuki · 04-10-2019 9:12am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

So the NBA's stipulation for "real height" is finally showing some results.

JJ Barea 6'0" -> 5'10"
Kristaps Porzingis 7'3" -> 7'2.75"
Boban Marjanovic 7'3" -> 7'3.5"

Lonzo Ball has worked on his shooting form - looks much better now!

https://twitter.com/KyleNeubeck/status/1178732029506179077

East is f*cked.

Interesting (but short) Woj Pod interview with Lonzo this week. He's matured for sure.

In other news, I'm going to the GS v Orlando game on Dec. 1st. in Orlando. I'll also be there in November as well at a conference but not sure if I'll catch a game then. Also in Boston from November 2nd-6th but just my luck there's no home games on during that time. :rolleyes:

qwabercd · 06-10-2019 8:27am

The open floor podcast will probably be discontinued now that Sharp is gone from SI? Hope they can keep something going between the 2 of them, I'd really miss it if not.

ButtersSuki · 06-10-2019 12:33pm

qwabercd wrote: »

The open floor podcast will probably be discontinued now that Sharp is gone from SI? Hope they can keep something going between the 2 of them, I'd really miss it if not.

The name might change but they’ll be able to continue the show no problem. I was a little worried when Golliver left SI tbh but don’t see this as an issue.

I am somewhat surprised he was amongst the lay offs though as Open Floor is the No. 1 podcast on the si network. Seems like a very traditional/old school print move not realising the landscape has changed.

K.O.Kiki · 06-10-2019 11:24pm

So China has thrown the baby out with the bathwater.

Daryl Morey tweeted 1 (since deleted) message of support for the people of Hong Kong.
Now the CBA & Tencent are stopping all work with/around the Rockets.
Let's see how much they actually value democracy & freedom of speech in America.

K.O.Kiki · 07-10-2019 6:05pm

https://twitter.com/rachel_cheung1/status/1181127421015330817

ButtersSuki · 07-10-2019 9:16pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rachel_cheung1/status/1181127421015330817

I think they’ve seriously misjudged public sentiment on this one. I’d expect this from the NFL, not the NBA. Bad move.

K.O.Kiki · 08-10-2019 11:13am

https://twitter.com/onlyyoontv/status/1181370046129422336?s=19

FFS

ButtersSuki · 08-10-2019 11:14am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

https://twitter.com/onlyyoontv/status/1181370046129422336?s=19

FFS

That’ll show them!

Pretty big over reaction there....

K.O.Kiki · 08-10-2019 1:55pm

NBA finally doing an about-face in favour of free speech:

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1181499239626661888
https://twitter.com/business/status/1181552615106080768
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1181497808563658752

China no longer broadcasting NBA basketball

https://twitter.com/YuFuTroy/status/1181465482769178624

We have seen the response from Adam Silver regarding his opinion on Morey’s inappropriate statement related to Hong Kong. We are very dissatisfied and we disagree about Adam’s claim to support Morey’s statement about freedom of speech. We believe that any speech that challenges national sovereignty and social stability is not within the realm of freedom of speech.

Thus, CCTV have decided to immediately stop all broadcasting schedules of the NBA preseason games in China, and start to investigate all cooperation and communication involving NBA.

ButtersSuki · 08-10-2019 5:01pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

NBA finally doing an about-face in favour of free speech:

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1181499239626661888
https://twitter.com/business/status/1181552615106080768
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1181497808563658752

China no longer broadcasting NBA basketball

https://twitter.com/YuFuTroy/status/1181465482769178624

It’s all a bit late. They’ve lost a lot of credibility on this issue IMO.

K.O.Kiki · 09-10-2019 1:44am

https://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/1181725906907418630

EAST = F*CKED

LuckyLloyd · 09-10-2019 12:46pm

Morey shouldn’t really express any personal political opinions on social media. He should be smarter than that. China reacting exactly as they would be expected to react. The NBA are right in their eventual stance too. But I bet Silver is cursing Morey behind close doors.

Carcharodon · 11-10-2019 7:48am

ButtersSuki wrote: »

It’s all a bit late. They’ve lost a lot of credibility on this issue IMO.

Better late than never, we should probably look at it as a glass half full

wonderboysam · 12-10-2019 2:42pm

Are there any decent fantasy NBA sites with a similar system to FPL?

Can only find sites which use a draft

For Forks Sake · 12-10-2019 6:59pm

In a world where Trump exists, Daryl Morey is the last person you'd have expected to cause a diplomatic incident with the Chinese

Dog Murphy · 13-10-2019 11:44pm

Carcharodon wrote: »

Better late than never, we should probably look at it as a glass half full

The NBA 100% deserves the kicking it's been getting over the last week.Hopefully this ends the NBA's outwardly political era and they just stick to basketball from now on.People wouldn't have an issue with them dodging questions and kissing China's ass if they hadn't been shoving their supposed progressiveness down everyone's throat over the last few years.They quite deliberately tried to pretend to be better than other sports leagues and cared about people more and were more than just a business when they were really the exact same as all other sports leagues.The NBA's progressive stance on political issues was good for business so that's why they did it, if it had been bad for business (like pissing China off is ) we wouldn't have has to endure all the pontificating from the likes of Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich in relation to Donald Trump.

Dog Murphy · 15-10-2019 5:32am

So now LeBron comes out and says that Daryl Morey was misinformed about the situation in Hong Kong before he sent out the tweet.

So we have LeBron essentially becoming a pro Chinese Government spokesman and telling Morey to shut up because it has negative financial consequences for the NBA.

I'm confused I thought LeBron was a social justice leader and in favour of free speech.

Pathetic comments from LeBron James.

ButtersSuki · 15-10-2019 8:22am

Dog Murphy wrote: »

So now LeBron comes out and says that Daryl Morey was misinformed about the situation in Hong Kong before he sent out the tweet.

So we have LeBron essentially becoming a pro Chinese Government spokesman and telling Morey to shut up because it has negative financial consequences for the NBA.

I'm confused I thought LeBron was a social justice leader and in favour of free speech.

Pathetic comments from LeBron James.

Hey! Don’t you know you’re not allowed criticise LeBron on boards? :pac:

Gregk961 · 15-10-2019 9:14am

Dog Murphy wrote: »

So now LeBron comes out and says that Daryl Morey was misinformed about the situation in Hong Kong before he sent out the tweet.

So we have LeBron essentially becoming a pro Chinese Government spokesman and telling Morey to shut up because it has negative financial consequences for the NBA.

I'm confused I thought LeBron was a social justice leader and in favour of free speech.

Pathetic comments from LeBron James.

Disgraceful stuff alright. Social justice and free speech until it starts to hit him in his pocket...

ButtersSuki · 16-10-2019 3:16pm

And strangely silence from the LeFanClub.......hmmmm.

US media having a field day with it and he's getting lots of criticism for his comments.

Gregk961 · 16-10-2019 6:31pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

US media having a field day with it and he's getting lots of criticism for his comments.

And rightly so! It's one of the most shocking displays of hypocrisy I've seen from a public figure* It's rare an off-season, off the court headline like this catches my interest but I can't let this one go!

Usually I try to give LeBron a fair shake and I understand it's hard to be anything close to a normal person after a lifetime of being told you are the greatest- but this is indefensible.

*Not counting politicians

Carcharodon · 17-10-2019 4:47am

ButtersSuki wrote: »

And strangely silence from the LeFanClub.......hmmmm.

US media having a field day with it and he's getting lots of criticism for his comments.

I think it’s been said before and before that and before that but you really have to let the LeBron thing go brah, it’s not healthy

Carcharodon · 17-10-2019 5:02am

I would be first to admit that iam not an expert on the Hong Kong situation but I know enough to know the history of Hong Kong and China’s history of autharionism and abuse. China will eroded away at Hong Kong’s freedoms until it regains full control in the future

Disappointing to see LeBron go down the wrong road since his voice would carry a bit of weight.

ButtersSuki · 17-10-2019 7:03am

Carcharodon wrote: »

I think it’s been said before and before that and before that but you really have to let the LeBron thing go brah, it’s not healthy

My health is perfectly fine dude. Just because I point out his flaws compared to fawn over every single thing he does doesn’t make me sick. Some here think I’m
obsessed with LeBron, quite the contrary.

Anyway, was listening to the Ringer NBA Show last night and they referenced a story I’d pretty much forgotten about where LeBron refused to sign a Cavs players letter of condemnation to China re. human rights abuses, and various tweets he’s issued over the years.

When you see the reaction in the mainstream media this has generated this could end up being The Decision Part II from a PR perspective.

leggo · 17-10-2019 11:18am

I dunno. The issue is barely gaining traction here among people who follow every step of the NBA, I think you’re reaching expecting the entire world to take notice. “Who will this really good player play for?” makes for much easier watercooler discussion than trying to understand the dynamics of the Hong Kong/China situation and weighing up how LeBron’s commercial interests in that market affect his public stance.

ButtersSuki · 17-10-2019 12:01pm

Good feature on it here:

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/10/15/lebron-james-nba-china-financial-fallout

ButtersSuki · 17-10-2019 12:03pm

leggo wrote: »

I dunno. The issue is barely gaining traction here among people who follow every step of the NBA, I think you’re reaching expecting the entire world to take notice. “Who will this really good player play for?” makes for much easier watercooler discussion than trying to understand the dynamics of the Hong Kong/China situation and weighing up how LeBron’s commercial interests in that market affect his public stance.

The reality of that is no matter what happens in the NBA it barely makes any news here to be fair. There was a small comment piece on the NBA China issue (pre-LBJ weighing in) in last weekend's irish Times or Sunday Independent (Can't excatly remember which), but it's huge news in the US.

For Forks Sake · 17-10-2019 1:50pm

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2807065-bradley-beal-wizards-agree-to-2-year-72m-max-contract-extension

Someone just got paid. Although all it means is that they might get something of value in return when he inevitably gets sick of carrying the franchise on his back and asks for a trade. No way he's still there at the end of that contract.

leggo · 17-10-2019 6:04pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

The reality of that is no matter what happens in the NBA it barely makes any news here to be fair. There was a small comment piece on the NBA China issue (pre-LBJ weighing in) in last weekend's irish Times or Sunday Independent (Can't excatly remember which), but it's huge news in the US.

I don’t mean here, I follow a lot of US media myself because I’m big into NFL, NBA and US politics. It’s not really scratching the surface, I doubt it’s one of the top 5 stories right now, much less a cultural phenomenon that’ll be spoken about for years on par with ‘The Decision’. On talk shows I’d follow I saw it mentioned once last week (on The Daily Show) and it was more a 5-minute piece covering the story in general than LeBron’s role in it. And my ears would prick up if one of these shows got into a story like this because it’s a specific interest.

Whether it should be or not is another story, but personally I’m seeing a lot more sports coverage of the likes of Jalen Ramsey’s trade, and NBA-wise the usual pre-season thinkpieces seem to be more prevalent than this story. It’s just not moving the needle anywhere near that level. Though online today you can dive into rabbit holes and bubbles and convince yourself the entire world is talking about the specific thing you’re interested in.

DaveyDave · 18-10-2019 1:33am

Damn, League Pass single team has gone up from €10.99 to €16.99, anyone sign up using a VPN? Wondering if I can still watch on Xbox.

LibSuperstar · 18-10-2019 4:45am

From the clips I saw on Twitter my Lakers were looking good. Of course, it's just preseason so we'll see how things pan out.

ButtersSuki · 18-10-2019 9:40am

https://twitter.com/RobertJPfeifer/status/1184749839973675008

:pac::pac:

The Offseason 2019

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