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The Offseason 2019

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    Is this on anywhere over here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    leggo wrote: »
    Is this on anywhere over here?

    It is if you have Kodi....

    FIBA have a YouTube channel that do highlights packages every night - from short (3min) to 10min to full games.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    France have eliminated the united states. To be honest their elimination has been coming. Wide open tournament now. Australia vs czech republic next, suppose Australia Will win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭bot43


    It is if you have Kodi....

    FIBA have a YouTube channel that do highlights packages every night - from short (3min) to 10min to full games.

    Can you PM?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    bot43 wrote: »
    Can you PM?

    Hit me up


  • Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭Vital Transformation


    leggo wrote: »
    Is this on anywhere over here?

    Eurosport have the UK & Ireland TV rights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,399 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Am I the only one watching the Worlds.......?

    A bit meh on International basketball now, tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    A bit meh on International basketball now, tbh.

    I've always enjoyed it, I see it as very different from the NBA game stylistically, but for me there's a beauty to it. I see it as very much chess v. the athletic US game. I enjoy the shooting, the passing, the spacing, the pick and roll, and esp. the teamwork v the more individual NBA game.

    I've been to countless NBA games and countless Euro League/European Championships and the Worlds in Madrid in 2014. The atmosphere at all of the Euro/Worlds competitions iis infinitely better than NBA games. US College has an even better atmosphere to be fair too.

    I can completely understand though how many/most would find it boring by comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    I've always enjoyed it, I see it as very different from the NBA game stylistically, but for me there's a beauty to it. I see it as very much chess v. the athletic US game. I enjoy the shooting, the passing, the spacing, the pick and roll, and esp. the teamwork v the more individual NBA game.

    I've been to countless NBA games and countless Euro League/European Championships and the Worlds in Madrid in 2014. The atmosphere at all of the Euro/Worlds competitions iis infinitely better than NBA games. US College has an even better atmosphere to be fair too.

    I can completely understand though how many/most would find it boring by comparison.


    US lose again, to Serbia who were up 25 in the first quarter where the US scored just 7 points. Re. the above, great stat on one of the US pods last night from before the loss to France - US were first in 3 point attempts, and 18th in 3pt FG %. That's shocking tbh. Serbia shot the lights out from 3 in the first quarter (8/9) and Bogdanovic looked like the best player on the court by miles. US were only down 4 at the half but Serbia never really looked like losing always finding a way to score when the US got close. Great game and really worth watching back, esp. for the first quarter display by Serbia.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    This is some game, Spain winning by a point 22-21, end if first quarter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    This is some game, Spain winning by a point 22-21, end if first quarter.

    Sadly I'm at work and can't watcvh until later. Any one of the last 4 could win it tbh. In likely order I see France, Australia, Spain and Argentina a somewhat distant 4th, with France as slight favourites and Spain and Australia a toss up tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    Sadly I'm at work and can't watcvh until later. Any one of the last 4 could win it tbh. In likely order I see France, Australia, Spain and Argentina a somewhat distant 4th, with France as slight favourites and Spain and Australia a toss up tbh.

    Yeah France look very good. 37-32 in favour of Australia at the moment. Spain are doing alright on defence, it's their offence that's killing them, trying to force the 3. Patty Mills having a great game for Australia. Delavedova looks real hot and bothered after receiving an elbow from Klaver. Spain should target him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    VAMOS!!! What heart Spain showed to come back from 11 down in the last quarter. And then to show all their street smarts and experience to win It. Marc Gasol was massive. Llull was also fantastic, bottled up Mills in overtime and scored two huge threes in second overtime.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    Wow Argentina. They played some game against the french, Scola nearly 40 years of age and playing like a 25 year old. Argentina have no NBA player and they beat a team with 4 of them one of them being the DPOY. Unbelievable. Campazzo is also great to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Wow Argentina. They played some game against the french, Scola nearly 40 years of age and playing like a 25 year old. Argentina have no NBA player and they beat a team with 4 of them one of them being the DPOY. Unbelievable. Campazzo is also great to watch.

    Campazzo could and probably should be in the NBA but he's in Madrid with Real and he's "the man" (particularly this year after Doncic left). He has an NBA buyout in his latest contract and given how he's played in the World's he's likely going to attract a lot of attention next summer. He is very small though and that is likely a contributing factor to teams staying away until now. I suspect he'll be int he NBA next year though on some team.

    France looking like they're going to gain some revenge over Australia in the 3rd place game at the moment in a very low scoring game. Australia going to go home without a medal again it seems.

    One thing that has stood out for me in this year's World's is the amount of Utah Jazz players who've had good World Cups. I know people are high on them for next year but they have had a lot of key perfomers for many countries.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    Campazzo could and probably should be in the NBA but he's in Madrid with Real and he's "the man" (particularly this year after Doncic left). He has an NBA buyout in his latest contract and given how he's played in the World's he's likely going to attract a lot of attention next summer. He is very small though and that is likely a contributing factor to teams staying away until now. I suspect he'll be int he NBA next year though on some team.

    France looking like they're going to gain some revenge over Australia in the 3rd place game at the moment in a very low scoring game. Australia going to go home without a medal again it seems.

    One thing that has stood out for me in this year's World's is the amount of Utah Jazz players who've had good World Cups. I know people are high on them for next year but they have had a lot of key perfomers for many countries.

    Yeah the French beat the Aussies in the end. That Albicy who was poor for them throughout the tournament played really well today so did poirier, who I see plays for the Celtics? Never seen him play for them last year. Gobert was fairly anonymous these last two games.

    Fair amount of jazz players alright, I thought Mitchell was the best for the U.S. Jingles had a good game today, was poor against Spain. Gobert was great against the U.S but pants in the last two games. Rubio doesn't count now as he's gone to phoenix haha although he has been excellent.

    12 minutes to go until the game begins. I hope Spain win but if Argentina win I won't be too upset as they are great to watch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    Spain world champions! They played unreal, their defence really smothered argentina. Llull was great, that man is great at putting out fires by getting vital baskets, I thought rudy fernandez was great as well, won a load of rebounds. Also thought Klaver was immense, one of Spain's players of the tournament, crazy good in defence. As for Argentina I feel sorry for them as maybe they got a bit stage frightened. However I do think a couple of their players have put themselves in the nba shop windows, especially laprovittola, deck and campazzo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    So the NBA's stipulation for "real height" is finally showing some results.
    SEbBVxYl.png

    JJ Barea 6'0" -> 5'10"
    Kristaps Porzingis 7'3" -> 7'2.75"
    Boban Marjanovic 7'3" -> 7'3.5"


    Lonzo Ball has worked on his shooting form - looks much better now!

    https://twitter.com/KyleNeubeck/status/1178732029506179077

    East is f*cked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    So the NBA's stipulation for "real height" is finally showing some results.
    SEbBVxYl.png

    JJ Barea 6'0" -> 5'10"
    Kristaps Porzingis 7'3" -> 7'2.75"
    Boban Marjanovic 7'3" -> 7'3.5"


    Lonzo Ball has worked on his shooting form - looks much better now!

    https://twitter.com/KyleNeubeck/status/1178732029506179077

    East is f*cked.

    Interesting (but short) Woj Pod interview with Lonzo this week. He's matured for sure.

    In other news, I'm going to the GS v Orlando game on Dec. 1st. in Orlando. I'll also be there in November as well at a conference but not sure if I'll catch a game then. Also in Boston from November 2nd-6th but just my luck there's no home games on during that time. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    The open floor podcast will probably be discontinued now that Sharp is gone from SI? Hope they can keep something going between the 2 of them, I'd really miss it if not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    qwabercd wrote: »
    The open floor podcast will probably be discontinued now that Sharp is gone from SI? Hope they can keep something going between the 2 of them, I'd really miss it if not.

    The name might change but they’ll be able to continue the show no problem. I was a little worried when Golliver left SI tbh but don’t see this as an issue.

    I am somewhat surprised he was amongst the lay offs though as Open Floor is the No. 1 podcast on the si network. Seems like a very traditional/old school print move not realising the landscape has changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    So China has thrown the baby out with the bathwater.

    Daryl Morey tweeted 1 (since deleted) message of support for the people of Hong Kong.
    Now the CBA & Tencent are stopping all work with/around the Rockets.
    Let's see how much they actually value democracy & freedom of speech in America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »

    I think they’ve seriously misjudged public sentiment on this one. I’d expect this from the NFL, not the NBA. Bad move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »

    That’ll show them!

    Pretty big over reaction there....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    NBA finally doing an about-face in favour of free speech:

    https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1181499239626661888
    https://twitter.com/business/status/1181552615106080768
    https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1181497808563658752

    China no longer broadcasting NBA basketball

    https://twitter.com/YuFuTroy/status/1181465482769178624
    We have seen the response from Adam Silver regarding his opinion on Morey’s inappropriate statement related to Hong Kong. We are very dissatisfied and we disagree about Adam’s claim to support Morey’s statement about freedom of speech. We believe that any speech that challenges national sovereignty and social stability is not within the realm of freedom of speech.

    Thus, CCTV have decided to immediately stop all broadcasting schedules of the NBA preseason games in China, and start to investigate all cooperation and communication involving NBA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »

    It’s all a bit late. They’ve lost a lot of credibility on this issue IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,399 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Morey shouldn’t really express any personal political opinions on social media. He should be smarter than that. China reacting exactly as they would be expected to react. The NBA are right in their eventual stance too. But I bet Silver is cursing Morey behind close doors.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    It’s all a bit late. They’ve lost a lot of credibility on this issue IMO.

    Better late than never, we should probably look at it as a glass half full


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭wonderboysam


    Are there any decent fantasy NBA sites with a similar system to FPL?

    Can only find sites which use a draft


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    In a world where Trump exists, Daryl Morey is the last person you'd have expected to cause a diplomatic incident with the Chinese


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭Dog Murphy


    Better late than never, we should probably look at it as a glass half full


    The NBA 100% deserves the kicking it's been getting over the last week.Hopefully this ends the NBA's outwardly political era and they just stick to basketball from now on.People wouldn't have an issue with them dodging questions and kissing China's ass if they hadn't been shoving their supposed progressiveness down everyone's throat over the last few years.They quite deliberately tried to pretend to be better than other sports leagues and cared about people more and were more than just a business when they were really the exact same as all other sports leagues.The NBA's progressive stance on political issues was good for business so that's why they did it, if it had been bad for business (like pissing China off is ) we wouldn't have has to endure all the pontificating from the likes of Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich in relation to Donald Trump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭Dog Murphy


    So now LeBron comes out and says that Daryl Morey was misinformed about the situation in Hong Kong before he sent out the tweet.

    So we have LeBron essentially becoming a pro Chinese Government spokesman and telling Morey to shut up because it has negative financial consequences for the NBA.

    I'm confused I thought LeBron was a social justice leader and in favour of free speech.

    Pathetic comments from LeBron James.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Dog Murphy wrote: »
    So now LeBron comes out and says that Daryl Morey was misinformed about the situation in Hong Kong before he sent out the tweet.

    So we have LeBron essentially becoming a pro Chinese Government spokesman and telling Morey to shut up because it has negative financial consequences for the NBA.

    I'm confused I thought LeBron was a social justice leader and in favour of free speech.

    Pathetic comments from LeBron James.

    Hey! Don’t you know you’re not allowed criticise LeBron on boards? :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    Dog Murphy wrote: »
    So now LeBron comes out and says that Daryl Morey was misinformed about the situation in Hong Kong before he sent out the tweet.

    So we have LeBron essentially becoming a pro Chinese Government spokesman and telling Morey to shut up because it has negative financial consequences for the NBA.

    I'm confused I thought LeBron was a social justice leader and in favour of free speech.

    Pathetic comments from LeBron James.

    Disgraceful stuff alright. Social justice and free speech until it starts to hit him in his pocket...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    And strangely silence from the LeFanClub.......hmmmm.

    US media having a field day with it and he's getting lots of criticism for his comments.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    US media having a field day with it and he's getting lots of criticism for his comments.

    And rightly so! It's one of the most shocking displays of hypocrisy I've seen from a public figure* It's rare an off-season, off the court headline like this catches my interest but I can't let this one go!

    Usually I try to give LeBron a fair shake and I understand it's hard to be anything close to a normal person after a lifetime of being told you are the greatest- but this is indefensible.


    *Not counting politicians


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    And strangely silence from the LeFanClub.......hmmmm.

    US media having a field day with it and he's getting lots of criticism for his comments.

    I think it’s been said before and before that and before that but you really have to let the LeBron thing go brah, it’s not healthy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    I would be first to admit that iam not an expert on the Hong Kong situation but I know enough to know the history of Hong Kong and China’s history of autharionism and abuse. China will eroded away at Hong Kong’s freedoms until it regains full control in the future

    Disappointing to see LeBron go down the wrong road since his voice would carry a bit of weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    I think it’s been said before and before that and before that but you really have to let the LeBron thing go brah, it’s not healthy

    My health is perfectly fine dude. Just because I point out his flaws compared to fawn over every single thing he does doesn’t make me sick. Some here think I’m
    obsessed with LeBron, quite the contrary.

    Anyway, was listening to the Ringer NBA Show last night and they referenced a story I’d pretty much forgotten about where LeBron refused to sign a Cavs players letter of condemnation to China re. human rights abuses, and various tweets he’s issued over the years.

    When you see the reaction in the mainstream media this has generated this could end up being The Decision Part II from a PR perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    I dunno. The issue is barely gaining traction here among people who follow every step of the NBA, I think you’re reaching expecting the entire world to take notice. “Who will this really good player play for?” makes for much easier watercooler discussion than trying to understand the dynamics of the Hong Kong/China situation and weighing up how LeBron’s commercial interests in that market affect his public stance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    leggo wrote: »
    I dunno. The issue is barely gaining traction here among people who follow every step of the NBA, I think you’re reaching expecting the entire world to take notice. “Who will this really good player play for?” makes for much easier watercooler discussion than trying to understand the dynamics of the Hong Kong/China situation and weighing up how LeBron’s commercial interests in that market affect his public stance.

    The reality of that is no matter what happens in the NBA it barely makes any news here to be fair. There was a small comment piece on the NBA China issue (pre-LBJ weighing in) in last weekend's irish Times or Sunday Independent (Can't excatly remember which), but it's huge news in the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2807065-bradley-beal-wizards-agree-to-2-year-72m-max-contract-extension

    Someone just got paid. Although all it means is that they might get something of value in return when he inevitably gets sick of carrying the franchise on his back and asks for a trade. No way he's still there at the end of that contract.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    The reality of that is no matter what happens in the NBA it barely makes any news here to be fair. There was a small comment piece on the NBA China issue (pre-LBJ weighing in) in last weekend's irish Times or Sunday Independent (Can't excatly remember which), but it's huge news in the US.

    I don’t mean here, I follow a lot of US media myself because I’m big into NFL, NBA and US politics. It’s not really scratching the surface, I doubt it’s one of the top 5 stories right now, much less a cultural phenomenon that’ll be spoken about for years on par with ‘The Decision’. On talk shows I’d follow I saw it mentioned once last week (on The Daily Show) and it was more a 5-minute piece covering the story in general than LeBron’s role in it. And my ears would prick up if one of these shows got into a story like this because it’s a specific interest.

    Whether it should be or not is another story, but personally I’m seeing a lot more sports coverage of the likes of Jalen Ramsey’s trade, and NBA-wise the usual pre-season thinkpieces seem to be more prevalent than this story. It’s just not moving the needle anywhere near that level. Though online today you can dive into rabbit holes and bubbles and convince yourself the entire world is talking about the specific thing you’re interested in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Damn, League Pass single team has gone up from €10.99 to €16.99, anyone sign up using a VPN? Wondering if I can still watch on Xbox.


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭LibSuperstar


    From the clips I saw on Twitter my Lakers were looking good. Of course, it's just preseason so we'll see how things pan out.


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