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How Bout Dem Bears?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,339 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Is it too early to put a 100 foot gold statue of him standing astride the main entrance to Soldier Field? I think if anything we've delayed too long.

    Just a bit but as I said if he’s able to recreate what he did in philly(oh how we’d take him back now) then ye could be onto a winner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭davetherave


    I'm still waiting for one of the stands to be renamed the Sexy Rexy Stand. :pac:

    The man brought us to our only Superbowl in, at the time 20 years, and as it stands has been the only Bears QB to start a superbowl in 35 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    It feels like a must win game tonight but I can't see a Bears win. Outside of the redzone the Bears' coverage has looked soft, Brady and his weapons should have enough to win and cover the 3.5 points. Fournette is a loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    It feels like a must win game tonight but I can't see a Bears win. Outside of the redzone the Bears' coverage has looked soft, Brady and his weapons should have enough to win and cover the 3.5 points. Fournette is a loss.

    I couldn't see a win either but despite the whining about refs (who were terrible) on the main thread I think we were the better team over the sixty minutes, and it's something we can build on. Biggest doubts are Foles being inconsistent and the offensive line being Swiss cheese especially after Daniels left the game. Oh and the collapse of the run game obviously. The schedule is tougher in the next few weeks but no reason not to get a couple of wins either: panthers, Rams, saints, titans, vikings, I could see two-three wins in that putting us at 6-4/7-3 facing the Packers. That's jumping ahead a bit maybe but if we stay healthy I think it looks optimistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    That was grim. I thought it would be relatively close but the defense wasn't at its elite level. Nagy's playcalling is such a crutch on the team that I don't think it's in the best interests of the team going forward to make playoffs this year. Unfortunately we're good enough that we'll finish around .500 again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Grim but unsurprising. We've been pretenders all season.

    The only way we end up in a position to potentially be dangerous come December and possibly January is if Nagy has the courage to hand over playcalling to Lazor (NOT DEFILIPPO, MATT). Not saying Lazor is the answer, but it certainly isn't Nagy.

    Something needs to be done about the line too. You've got Juan Castillo trying to polish a turd. I know the Bills recently released a guard who was quite good for them in recent seasons. If there's no character concerns there then bring him in, and surely there's at least one other guard better than Germain Ifeti that could be brought in.

    The offense doesn't even have to be great. Just be average FFS. Move the ball and don't have 15 second 3 & outs that give the defense no time to rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Can Nagy please realise that Patterson isn't Jordan Howard? Running him between the tackles is insanity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭D9Male


    5-2, with two games against Minnesota and 1 against each of Houston and Jacksonville.

    Still more than possible that the Bears could find a way to 10 wins with that D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    D9Male wrote: »
    5-2, with two games against Minnesota and 1 against each of Houston and Jacksonville.

    Still more than possible that the Bears could find a way to 10 wins with that D.

    10-6 is very possible, but if we do it we'll be a bad 10-6 team, that's for sure. Funny enough there are some bright spots on the offense though, Robinson was in great form, mooney is looking like a great value pick, Cole kmet is still early days but has made let catches in the last two games, graham is playing well although he's being taken out of games in the red zone because cleverness. But it's all for very little when the o line is a disaster and the running back is subpar. The defense is being asked to do everything. I'm predicting losses in the next two weeks. Would hope to get a win after that but the momentum will be going against us by then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭D9Male


    As a Minnesota fan, I would love to be a bad 10-6 team. Certainly better than being a bad 6-10 team! Or 4-12...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    At this stage I would put Trubisky back in. No chance of it happening bar injury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,064 ✭✭✭Christy42


    At this stage I would put Trubisky back in. No chance of it happening bar injury.

    Why? He is the worse of the 2 QBs. Foles isn't great either but it won't be solved by repeatedly swapping mediocre QBs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Yeah Foles had a bad day Sunday against one of the best defenses in the league at pressuring QBs, and while he's not great he is still a good reader of defenses and capable at times of putting the team in scoring situations. He even did it Sunday with a great drive, he just made a balls of the finish. I don't see us doing well against too many teams this year offensively, but we won't be that bad every week. Whatever his shortcomings, Foles can connect on long passes and can read the situation. Trubisky, demonstrably, cannot do either of those things, and you never feel at all like he's going to during a game, he's just woefully inaccurate. We're still 5-2, and I still think we'll get to 10-6. Problem is that a lot of the teams we'd be in the hunt for a WC spot against, like the Rams and Saints, are likely to have beaten us on the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Jay endorsing Trump on twitter has just ruined my day and it's only 7.40am. Deep down I knew but I was able to ignore it.

    I guess I have cancel him now.

    pikachu-crying-icegif.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    In fairness he said he supports Trump in 2016 and he delivered the line in typically trolling cutler style at the time, so it's not a surprise or anything. Still better than urlacher and ditka. I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    In fairness he said he supports Trump in 2016 and he delivered the line in typically trolling cutler style at the time, so it's not a surprise or anything. Still better than urlacher and ditka. I guess.

    I can sort of forgive people for supporting him in 2016. A lot got caught up in the BS he was spouting and fell for it.

    Supporting him now, in 2020, after all that has gone on in the past 4 years? Unforgivable. Sorry Jay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Oat23 wrote: »
    I can sort of forgive people for supporting him in 2016. A lot got caught up in the BS he was spouting and fell for it.

    Supporting him now, in 2020, after all that has gone on in the past 4 years? Unforgivable. Sorry Jay.

    Brett Favre too, so at least we don't have a monopoly on that crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    When was the last time we played a 60 minute game?

    I genuinely can't remember. Could it be as far back at against the Bucs in 2018? They have been few and far between.

    Tired of the excuses. Tired of hearing Nagy say "we're still growing and learning". B*llocks. You are bad at your job. End of.

    Get a new line. Get a new playcaller. Come back in 2021 and play disciplined football for 60 minutes each week. It should be the last chance for GM/HC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Running Montgomery for zero yards in the redzone twice when 2 scores down in the 4th.

    It was abundantly clear that running between the tackles wasn't working yet Nagy kept calling it. Grim.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    This is insane. The line will soon be 5 random people nobody has heard of.

    https://twitter.com/ChicagoBears/status/1323742808457547779?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Oat23 wrote: »
    This is insane. The line will soon be 5 random people nobody has heard of.

    https://twitter.com/ChicagoBears/status/1323742808457547779?s=19

    Christ in a bike. Maybe you're right about trubisky. We'll need someone who can run for his life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    @ TEN
    vs MIN
    ---Bye Week---
    @ GB
    vs DET
    vs HOU
    @ MIN
    @ JAX
    vs GB

    I'd have absolutely taken 5-3 at this point at the start of the season but it feels like inverting that W-L record would paint a fairer picture of where the Bears are at.

    Given what Dalvin Cook can do and the Bears' questionable run D, I think the Bears go 1-1 against Minnesota. I can't see the Bears keeping pace with Rodgers, even though the Packers have shown they can fail to turn up in games. The Bears should beat Detroit again. That would put the Bears on 7-6 before looking at the games outside the division.

    The game on Sunday at Tennessee is a big one. Can the defense stop Derrick Henry? The Titans' pass rush isn't great but the Bears OL is thrown together at this stage. Tannehill has shown he can make big plays to compliment the run game. It's a big ask to win.

    I think the Bears finish 9-7 with wins over Minnesota, Detroit, Houston and Jacksonville.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I think the Bears finish 9-7 with wins over Minnesota, Detroit, Houston and Jacksonville.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    :pac:

    The way the Vikes are playing right now we're gonna lose that game next week too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Oat23 wrote: »
    The way the Vikes are playing right now we're gonna lose that game next week too.

    If Dalvin Cook doesn't have over 150 yards from scrimmage I will be surprised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    I can't believe the great Ryan Nall scored a TD 5 minutes after I turn the game off. I've been waiting 3 years to see him score and he picks today. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,339 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Just seen an update from the NFL network that Matt Nagy is giving up play calling duties from Monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Just seen an update from the NFL network that Matt Nagy is giving up play calling duties from Monday.

    Praise be to God. No idea if Lazor will be any good, but we can't keep doing what he's been doing. The weird thing is the decisions he makes are so obviously bad that you wonder what is so difficult sometimes about just recognising why a given playcall is stupid under a given circumstance. Either way, this is a good move. If it doesn't work out, Nagy's days are numbered. No excuses left at this point, it's playoffs or bust for him I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Oat23 wrote: »
    Mitch cannot start next week. Enough is enough.


    I'm sorry, Mitch. I was wrong to blame you.



    Please come back. At least you can run :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Where do we go from here? Hard to see any kind of recovery this season, the sense of inevitability to us losing games is so strong. It's so grim watching this offensive ineptitude next to a truly great defense, the offensive players should be embarrassed to share a dressing room with the other side of the ball. Nagy doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt at this point, he was brought in to create an offense. I don't care what injuries we have, we are the worst offense in the game right now so he simply has to be fired. I'd be ok with that happening now actually, that performance was so abject.

    Amazing to still be in this position. I mean it's not trestman bad, but other than that, what has nagy brought to the table? Other than various excuses and scapegoats, all of which are now gone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Well Mitch is in.

    Now the Bears need to agree with the Packers to pay 2 minute halves and they're in business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Well Mitch is in.

    Now the Bears need to agree with the Packers to pay 2 minute halves and they're in business.

    I mean I'm ok with Mitch being in since foles has failed, but it wouldn't exactly fill you with optimism. I've a terrible feeling about how bad this will be.

    That being said one thing that started to really bother me with foles was how surly and uninspiring he was on the field and on the line, bitching to the coach constantly and generally looking like someone who isn't being wildly overpaid. It will be good to have someone whose body language is that of someone who at least wants to be there, might lead to a positive response in the offense.

    But that's really thin gruel. We're shagged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    I turned it off in the second quarter and watched a bit of mandalorian. Must say I'm impressed with the second season so far, even though I'm only a couple of episodes in. It's got that old star wars feel, doesn't take itself too seriously and it's just the right scale for a show like this. The main character is surprisingly likeable given he's a cold killer with a mask on.

    What are ye doing with your sundays now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Even if I could have stayed up last night I didn't want to. Was far too tired and fell asleep at 10.

    No real surprise what happened looking at the highlights. Even the D looked terrible.

    Our record might not say it yet but we are easily one of the worst teams in the league. This team is a some way off being considered 'middle of the pack'.

    If we lose out we should have a top 8 pick hopefully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    I have no idea why I tuned in for that but it was a bad idea, they have a way of finding new ways to break your heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    So many people on twitter saying to clean house tomorrow. People who should know better as well, not just your average meathead.

    I don't see it happening and will be shocked if they fire everyone tomorrow. If Trestman managed to keep his job until black Monday then anyone will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Trubisky is going to get tagged isn't he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭Badabing


    Win the last 3 games and also possible play off place? Packers might rest up a few players in the last game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Badabing wrote: »
    Win the last 3 games and also possible play off place? Packers might rest up a few players in the last game.

    The Packers might need the win for the top seed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Badabing wrote: »
    Win the last 3 games and also possible play off place? Packers might rest up a few players in the last game.

    So much would have to happen for us to sneak in at this point that it seems very unlikely. But, technically yeah...but we need the Vikes to keep losing, and the Cardinals also. And we need the Packers to keep winning until they play us, which is a little sickening. The least likely thing of all, though, is that we win out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    So after all the permutations are considered, basically, we win and we're in next week, lose and we are in all probability out, and the Cardinals will probably be taking the spot. Meanwhile the Packers almost certainly need a win against us to secure the number one seed, assuming they go on and win this game that they are currently well on top in at half time.

    Earlier in the week I liked the idea of a handy game against their backups (though knowing the bears we'd probably lose it), but honestly I wouldn't have it any other way. It should come down to the bears v Packers in the last week, it feels right. We've looked better the last few weeks and I expect us to put it up to them. I don't think we have the beating of a motivated Packers team, but honestly if we don't, we aren't going anywhere in the playoffs anyway. I'm just glad we are on a meaningful game against them this late in the season. And if we DID happen to beat them (would be far from the weirdest result this year), it would be a huge statement that we are a serious playoff team and you could be legitimately excited going into the playoffs instead of having nagging feeling that we were kind of handed the last spot.

    Need to cut out the qb errors from today, and the defense need to both stop taking the odd drive off, and find ways to get pressure on Rodgers, it's the only thing that works on him, scheming to get pressure in his face. Trying to just cover his options is only feckacting. Blitz pagano! Early and often!

    Bear down!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Oh, and if Nagy and Trubisky happened to get a real high pressure win against the pack it would go a long way to giving me a sense of confidence in them. Another loss and we can probably write them off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    The Cardinals love nothing more than to sabotage themselves but surely they will beat a Goff-less Rams team.

    That disaster at home to the Lions is coming back to firmly bite the Bears.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    The Cardinals love nothing more than to sabotage themselves but surely they will beat a Goff-less Rams team.

    That disaster at home to the Lions is coming back to firmly bite the Bears.

    Yeah I think the path to the playoffs is a win against the Packers (and sneaking in the other way would not be a promising start anyway). Anyone think we have a hope? I remain excited but realistic: we always have a chance but they have had our number since forever, think it'll be closer than last time but not enough...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Bakhtiari out, no excuse not to be aggressively pressuring Rodgers on passing downs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Two great pieces of news!

    1. Nagy is safe for next year regardless of the result today. Yay!

    2. Confirming suspicions and rumours, nagy has gradually increased his input into playcalling for the offense again. Just in case you were wondering about that jet sweep to kmet. Expect more cleverness and less running the ball when it's the obviously correct call.

    Hooray for the Bears!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    I'm ****ing tired of the Packers enjoying bears games. Nagys paws are all over another embarrassment. And one that we might actually get into the playoffs on so no heads at all will roll (although they already made it clear that a performance today wasn't even required). What a shambles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,965 ✭✭✭Liamalone


    Defaulting into the playoffs?

    Or am I doting?


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