[DubInMeath]

Originally Posted by ablelocks

junior cert project time :

my son has a design for a side table that he is really stuck on, but i suspect his dimensions won't make it easy to source the timber.

he needs

1 board of Ash - 350mm deep, 1150 long and 25mm thick
1 board of Walnut - 350mm x 750mm x 25mm
(finished dimensions)

any recommendations/suggestions greatly appreciated....

Where are you based?' BTW the last time I looked at getting walnut it was very expensive so be warned.

[recipio]

Originally Posted by ablelocks

junior cert project time :

my son has a design for a side table that he is really stuck on, but i suspect his dimensions won't make it easy to source the timber.

he needs

1 board of Ash - 350mm deep, 1150 long and 25mm thick
1 board of Walnut - 350mm x 750mm x 25mm
(finished dimensions)

any recommendations/suggestions greatly appreciated....

The thickness is the problem. We still sell hardwoods in one or two inch thick boards so to end up with 25 mm you would have to buy two inch ( 50 mm ) stock and plane it down with a planer - a terrible waste of timber ! You can get ash and walnut faced MDF but to my knowledge it is all 18mm thick. I think even a seasoned woodworker would look to veneering a ply or MDF core to get those dimensions. Does the teacher have any ideas about sourcing materials. ?

[Bungusbeefcake]

Originally Posted by ablelocks

junior cert project time :

my son has a design for a side table that he is really stuck on, but i suspect his dimensions won't make it easy to source the timber.

he needs

1 board of Ash - 350mm deep, 1150 long and 25mm thick
1 board of Walnut - 350mm x 750mm x 25mm
(finished dimensions)

any recommendations/suggestions greatly appreciated....

Hi, contact Dara or his wife here:

http://heartswoodheritage.ie/shop/

Or you can find them on facebook and message them or their number should be there too.

They'll work with you to see what they have and work within your budget. I can't recommend them highly enough. Based on the Naas side of Kildare

[ablelocks]

Originally Posted by DubInMeath

Where are you based?' BTW the last time I looked at getting walnut it was very expensive so be warned.

near limerick, McMahons was recommended by a furniture maker....he said they'd be very obliging about cutting to sizes......

Originally Posted by recipio

The thickness is the problem. We still sell hardwoods in one or two inch thick boards so to end up with 25 mm you would have to buy two inch ( 50 mm ) stock and plane it down with a planer - a terrible waste of timber ! You can get ash and walnut faced MDF but to my knowledge it is all 18mm thick. I think even a seasoned woodworker would look to veneering a ply or MDF core to get those dimensions. Does the teacher have any ideas about sourcing materials. ?

...but i don't think he heard the thickness, so not sure if they'll be able to supply. The Teacher? Said "any wood shop"....

I was thinking the thickness might be an issue alright.

Originally Posted by Bungusbeefcake

Hi, contact Dara or his wife here:

http://heartswoodheritage.ie/shop/

Or you can find them on facebook and message them or their number should be there too.

They'll work with you to see what they have and work within your budget. I can't recommend them highly enough. Based on the Naas side of Kildare

thanks for that, I wouldn't mind a trip to kildare! - will try them if i don't get anywhere locally.

[DubInMeath]

Originally Posted by ablelocks

near limerick, McMahons was recommended by a furniture maker....he said they'd be very obliging about cutting to sizes......

Haven't used them personally but a friend in Tipp used to buy some pieces from
http://www.dinantimber.ie

[recipio]

Try Willie Crowley in Quin Co Clare. www.crowleyhardwoods.com You might get lucky and find 27 -28 mm stock sold as 'one inch' He encourages phone calls and is not great with online contact. You would also do well to find 250 mm wide boards so your son may have to join two together if he uses solid wood.If the thickness could be reduced to 22m you would have no problem finding 25 mm planks in the rough. Access to a planer /thicknesser would make life a lot easier,

[wartotojas]

Hi all,

looking to build a pergola and can't seem to find 6"x6" posts, I have only seen 6x6 fence post which are 2.4m long, since I will be concreting them into the ground - that's too short.

Anyone know where to source 6"x6" pressure treated timber at least at 3.6m lengths?
Based in Westmeath/Meath border - the closer the better.

Many thanks

[tabby aspreme]

Originally Posted by wartotojas

Hi all,

looking to build a pergola and can't seem to find 6"x6" posts, I have only seen 6x6 fence post which are 2.4m long, since I will be concreting them into the ground - that's too short.

Anyone know where to source 6"x6" pressure treated timber at least at 3.6m lengths?
Based in Westmeath/Meath border - the closer the better.

Many thanks

Don't concrete posts into the ground, they will rot, it's better to fix them onto concrete using brackets and keeping them slightly above the concrete

[waterboy15]

I would imagine using something like these on a concrete base would be the job
https://m.ebay.ie/itm/Heavy-Duty-Gal...6-06239a3e6b6b

[wartotojas]

Originally Posted by tabby aspreme

Don't concrete posts into the ground, they will rot, it's better to fix them onto concrete using brackets and keeping them slightly above the concrete

thanks for advise, I have seen fence post that were concreted in removed after 7-8 years with no rot, but might be pure luck.

I have no solid/flat surface to attach post supports, so might end up using concrete-in post supports (sorry cant post links or images).

but need to look around to find something suitable for 6"x6"s, and still need to find a supplier stocking posts themselves.

[waterboy15]

Or these with 2 slots ripped in the post to hide the bracket
https://m.ebay.ie/itm/Heavy-Duty-Gal...r=414390651442

[wartotojas]

Originally Posted by waterboy15

Or these with 2 slots ripped in the post to hide the bracket

thanks waterboy15, I was able to find same type holders suitable for 150mm (6") posts. may end up using them. just need to find posts now

[timfromtang]

Originally Posted by wartotojas

thanks for advise, I have seen fence post that were concreted in removed after 7-8 years with no rot, but might be pure luck.

I have no solid/flat surface to attach post supports, so might end up using concrete-in post supports (sorry cant post links or images).

but need to look around to find something suitable for 6"x6"s, and still need to find a supplier stocking posts themselves.

Greetings, in my humble opinion, posts are best set in holes, set a large round stone in the bottom of the hole to sit the post on, and fill the hole with well rammed crushed stone or pit run gravel to secure the post. Most posts fail at ground level from stress failure. The problem lies in the abrupt transition from continually wet ground and the rest of the post in the air which is subjected to wetting and drying cycles over the seasons, wood expansion and contraction provides the stress which is of course concentrated where the post meets the ground. (this is why pressure treated posts fail whilst the top wood is still good) A well drained well rammed gravel fixing will greatly increase the lifetime of any post. A Kango Hammer and an old bit with a small flat welded on the end makes a GREAT rammer for this job If you are not in too much of a hurry for your posts, I'll be thinning some larch in our forest in a month or so and could run you off a few 5 or 6"square larch posts on the sawmill. best send me a pm if you are interested tim I should add of course that a post that is secured to a concrete base by a metal bracket and not in contact with the ground will last the best of all, apologies I should have read further up the thread before replying. tim

[wartotojas]

Originally Posted by timfromtang

Greetings, in my humble opinion, posts are best set in holes, set a large round stone in the bottom of the hole to sit the post on, and fill the hole with well rammed crushed stone or pit run gravel to secure the post. Most posts fail at ground level from stress failure. The problem lies in the abrupt transition from continually wet ground and the rest of the post in the air which is subjected to wetting and drying cycles over the seasons, wood expansion and contraction provides the stress which is of course concentrated where the post meets the ground. (this is why pressure treated posts fail whilst the top wood is still good) A well drained well rammed gravel fixing will greatly increase the lifetime of any post. A Kango Hammer and an old bit with a small flat welded on the end makes a GREAT rammer for this job If you are not in too much of a hurry for your posts, I'll be thinning some larch in our forest in a month or so and could run you off a few 5 or 6"square larch posts on the sawmill. best send me a pm if you are interested tim I should add of course that a post that is secured to a concrete base by a metal bracket and not in contact with the ground will last the best of all, apologies I should have read further up the thread before replying. tim

Thanks Tim, will be in touch.

In a meantime, Crowes Sawmills Ltd confirmed they have 3.6m 145x145mm Douglas Fir in Stock PAO

[timfromtang]

Originally Posted by wartotojas

Thanks Tim, will be in touch.

In a meantime, Crowes Sawmills Ltd confirmed they have 3.6m 145x145mm Douglas Fir in Stock PAO

You should buy it from Crowes so, the douglas fir will be lovely. best of luck with the build. tim