Timber

Calahonda52

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Would this be planed?

I would not thing so and whats more it will be unseasoned if he is cutting it fresh from his forest

timfromtang

not planed and fresh sawn.
tim

Aodhan5000

Best place to buy sheets of plywood? Located in South West of the country

dnme

Hi all.

Can anyone advise me where to source planed oak boards in the Limerick Clare area. I've been in to McMahons and found the experience very intimidating. I felt like a nuisance. All the timber was rough sawn so you could not see the grain and it was nearly all stacked and strapped.

I want to build a headboard, see rough sketch attached. The sizes are still approximate so I can tolerate variances on widths and thicknesses but would like to stay as close as possible to the plan.

I think I'd like Oak for the surround, main styles and rails but maybe you'd use something better / cheaper / etc. Any advice greatly appreciated.

Sparks

I dunno about dimensional stuff, but https://www.instagram.com/irishhardwoods/ might be of interest, it's a tad north in Galway but that's not that far and he seems to be aiming at a smaller scale market than McMahons would be.

Muahahaha

Im looking to make a kitchen table hopefully out of a single slab of wood from a tree with a nice grain, approx 1m wide by 2m long and a few inches thick. Is that something that sawmills do or is it more a tree surgeon that I need to find? Have tried Clonee sawmills but its not something they carry.

Also in terms of the grain is it potluck on what trees they are cutting or is this something they might have in stock where you have a choice of a few options? Have no ideas what way tree surgeons or sawmills work.

recipio

Willie Crowley in Quin Co Clare has started trading again and you will not meet a nicer man to do business with.Check out his website. However all the timber merchants will only sell undimensioned timber. If you are going to stay with the hobby why not spend a few hundred on a secondhand planer thicknesser.?
The headboard is fine but do you not have a lot of timber under the mattress level which will never be seen ? -and the mitred wrap around seems a bit superfluous Just sayin'

dnme

recipio wrote: »

Willie Crowley in Quin Co Clare has started trading again and you will not meet a nicer man to do business with.Check out his website. However all the timber merchants will only sell undimensioned timber. If you are going to stay with the hobby why not spend a few hundred on a secondhand planer thicknesser.?
The headboard is fine but do you not have a lot of timber under the mattress level which will never be seen ? -and the mitred wrap around seems a bit superfluous Just sayin'

Many thanks and I take your point about timber below mattress level. I was going to use cheaper t+g here but your right, I might MDF it. The surround adds depth and leaves me with a working cavity into which I will install lighting, just cant really be seen in that drawing.

tabby aspreme

Muahahaha wrote: »

Im looking to make a kitchen table hopefully out of a single slab of wood from a tree with a nice grain, approx 1m wide by 2m long and a few inches thick. Is that something that sawmills do or is it more a tree surgeon that I need to find? Have tried Clonee sawmills but its not something they carry.

Also in terms of the grain is it potluck on what trees they are cutting or is this something they might have in stock where you have a choice of a few options? Have no ideas what way tree surgeons or sawmills work.

Try Kiln Dried Hardwoods, Kilruddery Bray, they may have something to suit

recipio

dnme wrote: »

Many thanks and I take your point about timber below mattress level. I was going to use cheaper t+g here but your right, I might MDF it. The surround adds depth and leaves me with a working cavity into which I will install lighting, just cant really be seen in that drawing.

Fair enough. I've made a few beds and the k/d fittings to keep the thing together are crucial. You can buy clip on systems but they are useless - the bed will rack and squeak. The best fittings I've found are metal dowels about 30mm long in the horizontals with bolts joining them through the vertical posts if that makes sense.All available online.

iwillhtfu

Muahahaha wrote: »

Im looking to make a kitchen table hopefully out of a single slab of wood from a tree with a nice grain, approx 1m wide by 2m long and a few inches thick. Is that something that sawmills do or is it more a tree surgeon that I need to find? Have tried Clonee sawmills but its not something they carry.

Also in terms of the grain is it potluck on what trees they are cutting or is this something they might have in stock where you have a choice of a few options? Have no ideas what way tree surgeons or sawmills work.

You'll do well to get a slab that size let alone afford to be picky on the grain. A specialist saw mill would be the one you're looking for. There's one down the road from me I'm dropping over during the week I'll see what they have. It won't be cheap though

chillyspoon

Muahahaha wrote: »

Im looking to make a kitchen table hopefully out of a single slab of wood from a tree with a nice grain, approx 1m wide by 2m long and a few inches thick. Is that something that sawmills do or is it more a tree surgeon that I need to find? Have tried Clonee sawmills but its not something they carry.

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Try Kiln Dried Hardwoods, Kilruddery Bray, they may have something to suit

+1, KDH should be able to sort you out - here's Neil from KDH with a nice beech log about to go through the mill, he's sound to deal with but brace yourself for the cost of a slab of that scale, it won't be cheap:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCt7n-in1_v/

Muahahaha

Thanks tabby will check them out. I also came across Pat Staunton Sawmills in Glenealy,Co.Wicklow and spoke to him as he deals a lot in hardwoods. Said he has a Californian sequoia redwood in the sawmill at the moment so going to head down to see it when he gets back from holidays in a couple of weeks.

Muahahaha

iwillhtfu wrote: »

You'll do well to get a slab that size let alone afford to be picky on the grain. A specialist saw mill would be the one you're looking for. There's one down the road from me I'm dropping over during the week I'll see what they have. It won't be cheap though

re: the grain, yeah thats what I was afraid of in that you just have to take what you can get but as its intended as a kitchen table for the next few decades Id like something I really like so maybe this venture is trickier than I thought. Still though I can only visit some sawmills and see what is available. .Regarding price Pat Staunton said about 500 euro for a 3ft by 9ft untreated piece of his sequioa so definitely not cheap. But if it was something that has a beautiful grain then I would stretch to it. Im hoping to end up with a table I love and will keep for life so its worth paying for.

Ive come across websites in the UK that sell exactly what Im after but would prefer try to source locally if I can. Shipping would also be a hassle too so I will stick local if I can.

Would appreciate it if you could take a look in your local sawmill and report back if anything suitable is available. Im not necessarly stuck on hardwoods either, would consider anything that looks nice and could be sanded and polished up good.

tabby aspreme

Pat Staunton was the first person I bought timber from, over 20 years ago, Beech, quarter sawn Oak and a few planks of Walnut, I still have the Walnut , they haven't told me what they want to be yet, he has a great understanding of how to cut logs to get the best out of them

tabby aspreme

If you buy a fresh sawn plank from a sawmill, it could take a few years to season and stabilise, before you could use it indoors, KDH in Kilruddery will have dried timber, though 2 inch may be the thickest they have.

Guru Maith Agut

Muahahaha wrote: »

...Im not necessarly stuck on hardwoods either, would consider anything that looks nice and could be sanded and polished up good.

Honestly, I wouldn't even consider a "softwood" for a project like a kitchen table. You will never keep it in good condition regardless of how much varnish you use. It will mark badly over time and although some say it "adds character", if you want it to last a long time, it will be in bits with general day to day use.

Why not go with a slightly thinner piece and beef up all around it using the same type of wood, giving it the appearance of being really thick? At least that way it'll cut down on weight and cost.

Worth considering maybe..?

chillyspoon

Muahahaha wrote: »

Thanks tabby will check them out. I also came across Pat Staunton Sawmills in Glenealy,Co.Wicklow and spoke to him as he deals a lot in hardwoods. Said he has a Californian sequoia redwood in the sawmill at the moment so going to head down to see it when he gets back from holidays in a couple of weeks.

Wow; bizarre coincidence - I was looking at some sequoia turning blanks that came from Pat's mill just last weekend, except they've been "seasoning" (gathering dust) since 2008 in a friend's workshop!!

mayo.mick

Am reading here with envy (rage actually!) at all these suppliers, AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE COUNTRY TO ME :mad:

Rant over!

Came across this video of Surry Timber, might be just as well its in another country, or I'd be bankrupt!

Its a real pity there's no such like place here (or if there is, I don't know about it).

Sparks

Surrey would have a large chunk of my pay if they were too close
But that Irish hardwoods crowd are in Galway Mick, that shouldn't be too far from you surely?

Also, if you think Surrey are bad, try these lads: http://www.feinesholz.de/
Or https://shop.exotichardwoods.co.uk/

mayo.mick

Sparks wrote: »

Surrey would have a large chunk of my pay if they were too close
But that Irish hardwoods crowd are in Galway Mick, that shouldn't be too far from you surely?

Also, if you think Surrey are bad, try these lads: http://www.feinesholz.de/
Or https://shop.exotichardwoods.co.uk/

I hadn't heard of Irish hardwoods before, where abouts in Galway are they?
My local guy is near Corrofin just off the Tuam rd, only about 50min drive.

Sparks

I mentioned them up above mick: https://www.instagram.com/irishhardwoods/

Muahahaha

Guru Maith Agut wrote: »

Why not go with a slightly thinner piece and beef up all around it using the same type of wood, giving it the appearance of being really thick? At least that way it'll cut down on weight and cost.

Worth considering maybe..?

Can you flesh this idea out a bit more. Do you mean go with something with like an inch thickness for the table top but then add long narrow strips of about 2 inch thickness of the same wood all around the edges of the tabletop underneath to make it look thicker? Seems a great idea to save on costs but wondering how it might look aesthetically. Is it a common practice and where could I find pictures of it done, sorry not sure what to search for to see an example.

Also just wondering with spalted wood do the spalts grow further over time or is the fungus dead at once the tree is chopped down. And are there only certain types of species where spalting occurs (seem to see it a lot in beech) or can it happen in any species of hardwood

Guru Maith Agut

Muahahaha wrote: »

Can you flesh this idea out a bit more. Do you mean go with something with like an inch thickness for the table top but then add long narrow strips of about 2 inch thickness of the same wood all around the edges of the tabletop underneath to make it look thicker? Seems a great idea to save on costs but wondering how it might look aesthetically. Is it a common practice and where could I find pictures of it done, sorry not sure what to search for to see an example.

In a nutshell yes that's exactly what I'm suggesting. You could brad nail/glue the strips to the main table easily and they should easily blend in if you use the same material as the main top.

And I would normally mitre all angles when making a box shape so you see no end grain, but in your case it wouldn't matter as both table ends will be end grain anyway so win win.



I'll see if I can find a vid of the principle for you.

Guru Maith Agut

Muahahaha wrote: »

...where could I find pictures of it done, sorry not sure what to search for to see an example.

This is pretty much what I'm suggesting you do all around the table, edges and sides. Will then give the appearance of thicker stock whilst keeping cost and overall weight down. Hope that helps.

Muahahaha

Thanks a million, thats very helpful

mayo.mick

Sparks wrote: »

I mentioned them up above mick: https://www.instagram.com/irishhardwoods/

Just outside Athenry! I'll call up to them when I get a chance

Mr Crispy

Does anyone know where I could get a solid wood countertop in or around the Dublin area? I know of woodworkers.ie but my Google-fu is failing me in finding others. It's just going to be used to make an office desk.

Calahonda52

Try the panelling centre

Guru Maith Agut

Mr Crispy wrote: »

Does anyone know where I could get a solid wood countertop in or around the Dublin area? I know of woodworkers.ie but my Google-fu is failing me in finding others. It's just going to be used to make an office desk.

Would you be happy enough using pine? If so Strahan Timber do laminated pine sheets.

Sizes here.