Are you taking part in any LGBTQ events for pride month?

Nobelium · 14-06-2019 7:08pm

Reid Thundering Pollywog wrote: »

I've a few can's in the fridge, and I've a run in the morning so I'll have to decline your very kind offer.. Where had you planned?

After I've done your ma you can have a taste ?

Stop moaning ffs · 14-06-2019 7:10pm

So the only take away from all this is that a few broflakes are upset they can’t be openly homophobic anymore, they don’t like the gays having a parade incase they see something they read about on the internet that doesn’t actually happen, and go on about it rather obsessively and you aren’t allowed challenge their baseless position or opinion cos they get upset if you do and somehow they’re being discriminated against, not the gay people who’s parade they don’t like.

Am I up to speed?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 14-06-2019 7:10pm

Half Hearted Commie wrote: »

If you can take it up the ass then you can take a joke bud.

Hey if you've never been rimmed or had your prostate tickled (fuuuuuuck me do you cum hard) you've had a sheltered sex life (it helps if her nails are short).

Mr.Frame · 14-06-2019 7:10pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

So the only take away from all this is that a few broflakes are upset they can’t be openly homophobic anymore, they don’t like the gays having a parade incase they see something they read about on the internet that doesn’t actually happen, and go on about it rather obsessively and you aren’t allowed challenge their baseless position or opinion cos they get upset if you do and somehow they’re being discriminated against, not the gay people who’s parade they don’t like.

Am I up to speed?

well said

specky4eyes · 14-06-2019 7:12pm

I'm just going for a few pints down the local.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3wFHEm33Aw

14-06-2019 7:13pm

Mr.Frame wrote:

Any right thinking person would think it was wrong and uncalled for to make these kind of comments.

I think any comment that is intended to offend and comes from a bad place is uncalled for. Jokes on the other hand (which I saw this was) are ok. It's ok not to find it funny, but to suppress it is silly.

Mr.Frame wrote:

You're obviously not one of them

No I'm not. Im ok with any humour as long as it's unbiased (e.g. saying something bad about something I hate is funny but aging something bad about something I like is bad is wrong)

14-06-2019 7:15pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote:

So the only take away from all this is that a few broflakes are upset they canâ€™t be openly homophobic anymore, they donâ€™t like the gays having a parade incase they see something they read about on the internet that doesnâ€™t actually happen, and go on about it rather obsessively and you arenâ€™t allowed challenge their baseless position or opinion cos they get upset if you do and somehow theyâ€™re being discriminated against, not the gay people whoâ€™s parade they donâ€™t like.

Stop moaning ffs wrote:

Am I up to speed?

Sure. Take away all you want. None of that was said but if you feel that's the take home message go for it.

Enjoy pride chief.

DrPhilG · 14-06-2019 7:18pm

Did someone send out the twat-sign or something?

Why the sudden influx.

Mr.Frame · 14-06-2019 7:18pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I think any comment that is intended to offend and comes from a bad place is uncalled for. Jokes on the other hand (which I saw this was) are ok. It's ok not to find it funny, but to suppress it is silly.

Funny to you because you a a straight male, who has no clue about the constant snide smart arsed comments like the "joke" that was posted.
Its comments like that that gay people have to put up with from school days to work places, ect and I can safely say ,we are calling it out now for what it is,
It is wrong and is offensive.
Again, any decent person would see that. Alas, you dont which speaks volumes

Deleted User wrote: »

No I'm not. Im ok with any humour as long as it's unbiased (e.g. saying something bad about something I hate is funny but aging something bad about something I like is bad is wrong)

the comment wasnt "funny" ,its that simple

Stop moaning ffs · 14-06-2019 7:19pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sure. Take away all you want. None of that was said but if you feel that's the take home message go for it.

Enjoy pride chief.

You’re a grown man (with a daughter I think you said?)
You’d be better off even talking to her and teaching her we’re all the same every single one of us has the same blood and origin. Kids naturally are accepting and don’t understand prejudice
It could be fun.
Yknow. Instead of ranting about gay people. At length. I mean for 13 hours straight is it now?

Where were the parents? Comes to mind

14-06-2019 7:25pm

Mr.Frame wrote:

Funny to you because you a a straight male, who has no clue about the constant snide smart arsed comments like the "joke" that was posted. Its comments like that that gay people have to put up with from school days to work places, ect and I can safely say ,we are calling it out now for what it is, It is wrong and is offensive. Again, any decent person would see that. Alas, you dont which speaks volumes

Yeah cool. Constantly been told you have no right to an opinion or that your opinion doesn't matter because of your skin colour or sexuality is not that nice either. Alas, the fact that someone who comes from that angle and can't see the hypocrisy speaks volumes.

Mr.Frame wrote:

the comment wasnt "funny" ,its that simple

Comedy is subjective. I don't find Mrs brown funny. Lots of people do. Your opinion, despite me being the evil straight lad, hold no more weight than mine

Nobelium · 14-06-2019 7:25pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

You’re a grown man (with a daughter I think you said?)
You’d be better off even talking to her and teaching her we’re all the same every single one of us has the same blood and origin. Kids naturally are accepting and don’t understand prejudice
It could be fun.
Yknow. Instead of ranting about gay people. At length. I mean for 13 hours straight is it now?

Where were the parents? Comes to mind

why would someone make kids watch this ?

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specky4eyes · 14-06-2019 7:26pm

SusieBlue wrote: »

Those sorts of bedroom activities aren’t exclusive to gay people.
Straight couples engage in them too.

Want to go on a date Susie?, any plans for tonight?

specky4eyes · 14-06-2019 7:28pm

Nobelium wrote: »

why would someone make kids watch this ?

It's fucking sickening that some children are made take part in that type of messed up AKGAKJVB AJB N,B Z\X\VN,M\V, sexual crap, disgusting.

14-06-2019 7:28pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote:

Youâ€™re a grown man (with a daughter I think you said?) Youâ€™d be better off even talking to her and teaching her weâ€™re all the same every single one of us has the same blood and origin. Kids naturally are accepting and donâ€™t understand prejudice It could be fun. Yknow. Instead of ranting about gay people. At length. I mean for 13 hours straight is it now?

My daughter is absolutely fine. She's doing her homework at the minute. Then we are going to watch a film. She knows about different sexualities and religions and is accepting of all and treats everyone the same. I'm very proud of her.

I haven't ranted about gay people. I have no issue with gay people.

Stop moaning ffs wrote:

Where were the parents? Comes to mind

Right beside her. Exactly where I want to be.

SusieBlue · 14-06-2019 7:32pm

Half Hearted Commie wrote: »

I find it very hard to believe straight men want it up the ass. These would be the 'straight' men who get off to tranny porn, correct?

You might want to do some research into where your own G spot is located, it will blow your mind.
There’s a reason it’s a popular part of foreplay and sex for both straight and gay couples.

It reeks of insecurity that you are implying straight people who engage in such activities must secretly be gay. You’re missing out big time.

eviltwin · 14-06-2019 7:32pm

Nobelium wrote: »

why would someone make kids watch this ?

In the ten years plus I've been taking my kids to pride I have never seen anything like that.

specky4eyes · 14-06-2019 7:35pm

SusieBlue wrote: »

You might want to do some research into where your own G spot is located, it will blow your mind.
There’s a reason it’s a popular part of foreplay and sex for both straight and gay couples.

It reeks of insecurity that you are implying straight people who engage in such activities must secretly be gay. You’re missing out big time.

Don't mind him SusieBlue, he's so narrow minded, me, I'm open minded and open.

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2019 7:37pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

Why are you playing dumb? You know full well why I'm saying that.

Bent is a legitimate description of an item that is bent. It is also a commonly used derogatory term for gay. If I used it in its proper context, you are the kind of person I would expect to accuse me of homophobia for using the term "bent".

And to answer your next question, "what kind of person is that?" I've already answered. A melodramatic attention seeking person with a victim complex who sees persecution at every corner.

You're a disgrace to the real victims of actual homophobic persecution through the years.

No i would think you are a bit thick for assuming that.

klaaaz · 14-06-2019 7:38pm

eviltwin wrote: »

In the ten years plus I've been taking my kids to pride I have never seen anything like that.

Same here, it looks like a pic from some foreign shore. Doubt Nobelium would elaborate on the source of the photo assuming it's not doctored.

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2019 7:42pm

klaaaz wrote: »

Same here, it looks like a pic from some foreign shore. Doubt Nobelium would elaborate on the source of the photo assuming it's not doctored.

Sweden apparently

Stop moaning ffs · 14-06-2019 7:50pm

Nobelium wrote: »

why would someone make kids watch this ?

Ehhh did I suggest he ‘make his kid watch this’?

Ps. That’s not dublin pride.

Pps young ladies brave the town with little more than a waistband on to cover their privates. Students regularly run around in their boxers and traffic cones on their heads.
People are weird. And they’re entitled to be.

The fact that you googled that to make such an insipid post is telling.

Would love to know exactly what you googled.

Stop moaning ffs · 14-06-2019 7:53pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

My daughter is absolutely fine. She's doing her homework at the minute. Then we are going to watch a film. She knows about different sexualities and religions and is accepting of all and treats everyone the same. I'm very proud of her.

I haven't ranted about gay people. I have no issue with gay people.

Right beside her. Exactly where I want to be.

Don’t squeeze or limit her. Think of the soap in your hand in the bathtub.
Let her do her own thing. No blame at all protecting her. I’m the same.
But there’s a line there somewhere shouldn’t be crossed.

Stop moaning ffs · 14-06-2019 7:56pm

eviltwin wrote: »

In the ten years plus I've been taking my kids to pride I have never seen anything like that.

This.

Challenge any of you to find a picture from any Dublin pride ever. That had anything like this one.

Go on. I know you love googling mad stuff you claim to be perverted but somehow know how to find

I’ll wait.

klaaaz · 14-06-2019 7:57pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

The fact that you googled that to make such an insipid post is telling.

Would love to know exactly what you googled.

"Proud closeted BDSM masked doggie wants submission to a master!"

cena · 14-06-2019 8:01pm

Why do the LGBTQ need a parade every year. Straight people don’t and if they did there would be uproar

Stop moaning ffs · 14-06-2019 8:03pm

klaaaz wrote: »

"Proud closeted BDSM masked doggie wants submission to a master!"

Haha! Laughed out loud well played.

It’s aaaalways the quiet ones. And priests and pastors and fragile insecure ‘straight white males’ somehow. (Who are sooooo easily offended and how dare you not tolerate their intolerance!)

What is it with people who really don’t like gay people and everything associated with it, but they feel the need to flood every single conversation where the things they ‘don’t hate, just don’t agree with’ come up?

It really is rather odd isn’t it?

Nobelium · 14-06-2019 8:04pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Haha! Laughed out loud well played.

It’s aaaalways the quiet ones. And priests and pastors and fragile insecure ‘straight white males’ somehow. (Who are sooooo easily offended and how dare you not tolerate their intolerance!)

What is it with people who really don’t like gay people and everything associated with it, but they feel the need to flood every single conversation where the things they ‘don’t hate, just don’t agree with’ come up?

It really is rather odd isn’t it?

I asked a simple question.

You can call me all the names you like, and try whatever personal attacks you like, such ad homien just demonstrates the weakness of your argument, and says more about you than it does about me.

Stop moaning ffs · 14-06-2019 8:08pm

cena wrote: »

Why do the LGBTQ need a parade every year. Straight people don’t and if they did there would be uproar

We’re all having a parade for you tomorrow. We’re so proud of you.
Congratulations on your sterilisation and a warm thanks from us all for sparing us the stupidity of any offspring you were about to inflict upon us.
Take the flag of your choice and join us at 2pm at the zoo and we’ll do a lap in your honour and tip you back into the chimp pen where you no doubt belong

Harry Palmr · 14-06-2019 8:27pm

/Waves

Calhoun · 14-06-2019 8:38pm

Nobelium wrote: »

I asked a simple question.

You can call me all the names you like, and try whatever personal attacks you like, such ad homien just demonstrates the weakness of your argument, and says more about you than it does about me.

Simple answer is that the LGBT community are probably in pole position from a narrative perspective at the moment and have allot of support behind them. They no longer need to go for the tolerant approach/debate approach to bring people along with them.

Its easier to just label and belittle those that raise any questions.

Unfortunately it has a polarizing effect as we are seeing in the likes of the states and just ends up building more hate. It will be interesting to see how things go over the next few years and if that survey about Irish people being sick of PC culture was accurate or not.

Its going to be a wild ride when it comes to LGBT education in schools, trans rights as we move forward ect. We have already seen how that community acts to medical professionals.

14-06-2019 8:39pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote:

Donâ€™t squeeze or limit her. Think of the soap in your hand in the bathtub. Let her do her own thing. No blame at all protecting her. Iâ€™m the same. But thereâ€™s a line there somewhere shouldnâ€™t be crossed.

What?

klaaaz · 14-06-2019 8:43pm

Calhoun wrote: »

Simple answer is that the LGBT community are probably in pole position from a narrative perspective at the moment and have allot of support behind them. They no longer need to go for the tolerant approach/debate approach to bring people along with them.

Its easier to just label and belittle those that raise any questions.

Unfortunately it has a polarizing effect as we are seeing in the likes of the states and just ends up building more hate. It will be interesting to see how things go over the next few years and if that survey about Irish people being sick of PC culture was accurate or not.

Its going to be a wild ride when it comes to LGBT education in schools, trans rights as we move forward ect. We have already seen how that community acts to medical professionals.

Seems to be an obsession with the USA here! It's the evangelical Christians over there who are pushing anti-LGBT hate. Thankfully they are not as prominent here though they are trying a comeback, the Catholic ones that is.

What on earth does that last paragraph and especially the last line of your post even mean?

14-06-2019 8:45pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote:

Itâ€™s aaaalways the quiet ones. And priests and pastors and fragile insecure â€˜straight white malesâ€™ somehow. (Who are sooooo easily offended and how dare you not tolerate their intolerance!)

Yes. All insecure white men must be gay. We get it...

Stop moaning ffs wrote:

What is it with people who really donâ€™t like gay people and everything associated with it, but they feel the need to flood every single conversation where the things they â€˜donâ€™t hate, just donâ€™t agree withâ€™ come up?

Because believe it or not, not everyone who has a problem with certain aspects of "cultural homosexuality" is anti gay.

I am certainly not opposed to homosexuality but the fact that I refuse to celebrate it makes me somewhat of a homophobe.

I think if "flooding a conversation" amounts to discussing it on a discussion board, then you will be ok.

If you would prefer not to have any criticism, perhaps go elsewhere.

Calhoun · 14-06-2019 8:47pm

klaaaz wrote: »

Seems to be an obsession with the USA here! It's the evangelical Christians over there who are pushing anti-LGBT hate. Thankfully they are not as prominent here though they are trying a comeback, the Catholic ones that is.

What on earth does that last paragraph and especially the last line of your post even mean?

Understandably enough as Ireland consumes allot of the American politics and adopts it for itself. I know we filter it down at times but some of it we try and just transplant straight in (when i say we i mean the collective we, everyone).

The last paragraph is about how we move forward as a society when we have all of these items coming down the track and we are at a stage where any nay-sayers is just a bigot and can be ignored. The last line means the vitriol at the medical professionals that took part in the trans documentary on RTE.

Calhoun · 14-06-2019 8:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

What?

I think he is trying to say if you squeeze to hard the soap will fly out of your hand, where as if you have a gentle grip you can hold on to it much easier.

specky4eyes · 14-06-2019 8:54pm

Heterosexual Pride, although I think like a lesbian.

klaaaz · 14-06-2019 8:56pm

Calhoun wrote: »

Understandably enough as Ireland consumes allot of the American politics and adopts it for itself. I know we filter it down at times but some of it we try and just transplant straight in (when i say we i mean the collective we, everyone).

I agree some of it is annoying and irrelevant to our situation.

Calhoun wrote: »

The last paragraph is about how we move forward as a society when we have all of these items coming down the track and we are at a stage where any nay-sayers is just a bigot and can be ignored. The last line means the vitriol at the medical professionals that took part in the trans documentary on RTE.

Naysayers usually judge their judgement on ignorance and scaremongering. Alot of the vitriol was aimed at the unqualified Lenihan.

On your previous mention of LGBT in schools, there is already LGBT awareness in Irish schools, no wild ride yet! Happened just this week https://gcn.ie/primary-school-pride-parade/ .

14-06-2019 8:58pm

Calhoun wrote:

I think he is trying to say if you squeeze to hard the soap will fly out of your hand, where as if you have a gentle grip you can hold on to it much easier.

Oh right. So if I have a firm grip on reality, I will lose my mind whereas if I let all the madness enter reality, I will end up capitulating and agreeing that their reality is actuality.

I see...

Calhoun · 14-06-2019 9:01pm

klaaaz wrote: »

I agree some of it is annoying and irrelevant to our situation.

Naysayers usually judge their judgement on ignorance and scaremongering. Alot of the vitriol was aimed at the unqualified Lenihan.

On your previous mention of LGBT in schools, there is already LGBT awareness in Irish schools, no wild ride yet! Happened just this week https://gcn.ie/primary-school-pride-parade/ .

That is great news on the LGBT stuff in primary schools and even more so that it hasn't gone negative either way so far. Don't get me wrong for one second, i have three daughters one of which has autism, today's society as it stands is so non-inclusive its absolutely crazy.

I am just concerned that the polarization on both sides will lead us to a more unequal world. Discounting opinions we don't like and writing people off is the road to ruin.

John_Rambo · 14-06-2019 9:02pm

Usually bring the kids in earlyish. It's a good day out, lots of colour and fun and it's nice to teach the kids exactly what it's about and the meaning behind the protest/celebration. Not sure if I'll make it this year, we could be away.

Calhoun · 14-06-2019 9:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh right. So if I have a firm grip on reality, I will lose my mind whereas if I let all the madness enter reality, I will end up capitulating and agreeing that their reality is actuality.

I see...

No but you know how it is, we all rebel against our parents. Especially if we are being forced to adopt their world view. Like the analogy with the soap if you squeeze to hard to try and hold on to it you will warp it.

So yes you can have your own opinions on things but if you dogmatically push them onto your kids you may end up having the opposite impact.

14-06-2019 9:09pm

Calhoun wrote:

No but you know how it is, we all rebel against our parents. Especially if we are being forced to adopt their world view. Like the analogy with the soap if you squeeze to hard to try and hold on to it you will warp it.

Calhoun wrote:

So yes you can have your own opinions on things but if you dogmatically push them onto your kids you may end up having the opposite impact.

Ooooooohhhhhhhhhh.....

I get it. I genuinely didn't.

So by me teaching my daughter that people shouldn't be ashamed or proud of how they were born and they should be proud of the decisions they make and how they treat others...

That will make her be a supervillain?

Calhoun · 14-06-2019 9:14pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Ooooooohhhhhhhhhh.....

I get it. I genuinely didn't.

So by me teaching my daughter that people shouldn't be ashamed or proud of how they were born and they should be proud of the decisions they make and how they treat others...

That will make her be a supervillain?

I think you need to take a minute or two and step back because i don't think we are at odds like you think we are.

I agree with the approach you are taking with your daughter but i was just explaining what i thought the other poster meant. I also agree with their point because kids rebel if you push to hard that's the nature of the beast. It doesn't matter what your politics are if you don't listen to your children and force your opinion on them you may have the opposite effect than you planned.

14-06-2019 9:16pm

Calhoun wrote:

I think you need to take a minute or two and step back because i don't think we are at odds like you think we are.

Apologies. And maybe I did misrepresent you and sorry if I did.

cena · 14-06-2019 11:28pm

Nobelium wrote: »

I asked a simple question.

You can call me all the names you like, and try whatever personal attacks you like, such ad homien just demonstrates the weakness of your argument, and says more about you than it does about me.

I too asked a simple question. I wasn't talking about you. My own brother is gay.

cloudatlas · 14-06-2019 11:48pm

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

No I will be avoiding everything related to pride. I treat gays like every other person I meet. I will not put gays on a pedestal and treat them like they're different to straight people. I also don't support corps using gay people as a tool to make money. Shame on them.

If gay people are bullied, attacked etc, the law is there to protect them. We have voted for marriage equality. Ireland is a place where gays are widely accepted as equal and I think it's absolutely stupid that you'd need to have a parade for people to know gays are supported.

Racism exists in the gaa at underage levels...why aren't the GAA doing a black pride march for them?

Irish people were victims of racism in the UK and still are yet I don't see any Irish Pride marches there?

I know gay lads who are dead sound and are just like everyone else. Then I see a lot of gay lads acting like being gay is an identity....like Daffyd from Little Britain.

God I liked your little homophobic rant at the end there, being masc gay is okay but not if you act fey, of course. Yes you are the epitome of accepting we don't need pride at all, just hide away inside. All those complaining about pride being flamboyant don't complain about halloween which is basically straight pride where straight people dress up in 'sexy' outfits and converge on the city centre on mass. Just because of gay marriage does not mean that there is total acceptance unfortunately things don't just magically change over night especially for trans people. A gay lad was beaten badly in Cavan, a lesbian couple on a bus in London were attacked. Get over yourself The other absurd comment on this thread was the link between gay pride, pro immigration hypocrisy good lord on that one. Plenty of people fleeing homophobic regimes seeking asylum here. Also the people saying that they are going to get drunk with their straight mates for pride etc., one of the problems is that multi nationals, mainly banks have turned it into a corporate festival and as soon as people see capitalist symbols they think that it's a free for all and that they should participate and that they know how to act appropriately which judging by the insensitivity in this thread ye don't have a clue so please stay away instead of coming pretending that you are part of it and then getting drunk and acting the pr1ck to someone because you have no understanding.

15-06-2019 12:13am

cloudatlas wrote:

God I liked your little homophobic rant at the end there, being masc gay is okay but not if you act fey, of course. Yes you are the epitome of accepting we don't need pride at all, just hide away inside. All those complaining about pride being flamboyant don't complain about halloween which is basically straight pride where straight people dress up in 'sexy' outfits and converge on the city centre on mass. Just because of gay marriage does not mean that there is total acceptance unfortunately things don't just magically change over night especially for trans people. A gay lad was beaten badly in Cavan, a lesbian couple on a bus in London were attacked. Get over yourself The other absurd comment on this thread was the link between gay pride, pro immigration hypocrisy good lord on that one. Plenty of people fleeing homophobic regimes seeking asylum here. Also the people saying that they are going to get drunk with their straight mates for pride etc., one of the problems is that multi nationals, mainly banks have turned it into a corporate festival and as soon as people see capitalist symbols they think that it's a free for all and that they should participate and that they know how to act appropriately which judging by the insensitivity in this thread ye don't have a clue so please stay away instead of coming pretending that you are part of it and then getting drunk and acting the pr1ck to someone because you have no understanding.

Sound.
paragraphs help your cause too.

So tl;dr for your rant?

Some people were abused and were called bad names. Homophobia.

Lots of other people were abused and called bad names but they weren't gay. It's ok though. Probs not a hate crime.

If you want to be a victim, you can. That goes for everyone of any race, creed or ability.

Atlantic Dawn · 15-06-2019 12:16am

None for me so far.

If my employer goes down the LGBT mandatory lanyard route I will hand in my notice on grounds of equality.

cloudatlas · 15-06-2019 1:05am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sound.
paragraphs help your cause too.

So tl;dr for your rant?

Some people were abused and were called bad names. Homophobia.

Lots of other people were abused and called bad names but they weren't gay. It's ok though. Probs not a hate crime.

If you want to be a victim, you can. That goes for everyone of any race, creed or ability.

It’s not that long a read, sorry you struggled with it.

Are you taking part in any LGBTQ events for pride month?

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