Car bomb has exploded in Derry City Centre

22-01-2019 7:55pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Aegir I don't get your posts at all. Who is saying the single market doesn't need a border? Jacob Rees Mogg and Boris Johnson as far as I can see? Have you been on the cooking sherry?

go back and read the thread and don't be so quick with the ad hominem

steddyeddy · 22-01-2019 8:05pm

Aegir wrote: »

go back and read the thread and don't be so quick with the ad hominem

Right well can you provide me with the details of anyone who has said the single market doesn't need borders apart from leave voters?

Risteard81 · 22-01-2019 8:06pm

DellyBelly wrote: »

It's a real shame to see this happening again. I've visted Derry/Londonderry a few times and found it a great place. This bombing could be a real setback for tourism in the area.

I can assure you that this city and this county are called Doire (or Derry in the foreigners' language) and not anything else.

22-01-2019 8:15pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Right well can you provide me with the details of anyone who has said the single market doesn't need borders apart from leave voters?

I have put the posts in order, it seems quite clear the conversation. ittakestwo seems to think that whatever happens, ireland can remain in the single market, but as i said, it won't without a border.

You then chucked in a bit of ad hominem for good measure and finished with your statement that Ireland will still be in the single market with or without a border.

If the UK crashes out and there is not agreement on regulatory alignment, then there will need to be a border. so your statement was incorrect.

ittakestwo wrote: »

How is Ireland jumping of a cliff with them? We will remain nicely in the EU custom Union

Aegir wrote: »

not without a border

steddyeddy wrote: »

Jesus mate your posts are indicative of the type of fundamental ignorance British people have of the EU. Ireland will still be in the single market with or without a border.

22-01-2019 8:16pm

Risteard81 wrote: »

I can assure you that this city and this county are called Doire (or Derry in the foreigners' language) and not anything else.

is that anywhere near Londonderry?

edit: apologies, I see you are talking about Coontie Lunnonderrie

Sureal · 22-01-2019 8:17pm

If a hard border is introduced, there will be a Republican campaign to tear it down. I've no doubt that the campaign will travel to Britain as we saw in the 70's, 80's and 90's. The British government and people should be really careful about how they handle this Brexit!

Sureal · 22-01-2019 8:33pm

RobMc59 wrote: »

Would that be the foreigner language you're speaking now?

In fairness, Irish people were forced to speak English. It would have been the same if the Nazis had taken over, we'd all be speaking German.

steddyeddy · 22-01-2019 8:36pm

Aegir wrote: »

I have put the posts in order, it seems quite clear the conversation. ittakestwo seems to think that whatever happens, ireland can remain in the single market, but as i said, it won't without a border.

You then chucked in a bit of ad hominem for good measure and finished with your statement that Ireland will still be in the single market with or without a border.

If the UK crashes out and there is not agreement on regulatory alignment, then there will need to be a border. so your statement was incorrect.

Aegir the only way Ireland leaves the single market is if it votes to leave the EU. That's the only way.

Penfailed · 22-01-2019 9:39pm

Risteard81 wrote: »

I can assure you that this city and this county are called Doire (or Derry in the foreigners' language) and not anything else.

Ah, I dunno...I've heard it called loads of things. Daire Calgaich, Daire Coluimb Chille, Doire, Derry, Londonderry, Stroke City, Legenderry, Londondeadly, etc. I prefer Derry myself but I'm not going to get all worked up about someone calling it something else on the internet. That would be childish.

FrancieBrady · 22-01-2019 9:43pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Aegir the only way Ireland leaves the single market is if it votes to leave the EU. That's the only way.

The price the DUP will pay for wrecking May's path to Brexit will be a border poll. Mark Francie's word.

22-01-2019 9:51pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Aegir the only way Ireland leaves the single market is if it votes to leave the EU. That's the only way.

Yeah, **** it. Who needs a border and tariffs and stuff.

Oddly enough, a lot of Brexiteers believe the same.

steddyeddy · 22-01-2019 10:48pm

Aegir wrote: »

Yeah, **** it. Who needs a border and tariffs and stuff.

Oddly enough, a lot of Brexiteers believe the same.

Yes you need a border if there's no regulatory alignment. I don't see how that means Ireland's leaving the single market.

22-01-2019 10:56pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Yes you need a border if there's no regulatory alignment. I don't see how that means Ireland's leaving the single market.

I’m not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp.

Ireland needs to carry out checks on goods coming in to the single market. That is one of the key tenants. That means a border. It isn’t just an Ireland/UK border, it is an external border of the single market.

I didn’t say Ireland was leaving the single market, but if it wants to remain in it, it will need some form of border.

FrancieBrady · 22-01-2019 10:59pm

Aegir wrote: »

I’m not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp.

Ireland needs to carry out checks on goods coming in to the single market. That is one of the key tenants. That means a border. It isn’t just an Ireland/UK border, it is an external border of the single market.

I didn’t say Ireland was leaving the single market, but if it wants to remain in it, it will need some form of border.

And we know that the UK will cause the need for one if they crash out (which they won't because they are too afraid to).

This was always the case and is why we fought so hard for an alternative in the deal.

If you want any form of Brexit it looks like that deal is your only option. And that deal suits us to the ground and is the best of all possible outcomes for the northern Ireland.

Junkyard Tom · 22-01-2019 11:01pm

Aegir wrote: »

I didn’t say Ireland was leaving the single market, but if it wants to remain in it, it will need some form of border.

It will need some form of border if Britain crashes out. If Britain crashes out it's in serious trouble. You're gloating over splashing someone with water due to your bus driving off a cliff into the sea.

22-01-2019 11:09pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

It will need some form of border if Britain crashes out. If Britain crashes out it's in serious trouble. You're gloating over splashing someone with water due to your bus driving off a cliff into the sea.

I’m not gloating about anything Tom, I’m telling people to cop the **** on.

Sitting there and simply blaming the Brits, won’t work this time.

ittakestwo · 22-01-2019 11:10pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The price the DUP will pay for wrecking May's path to Brexit will be a border poll. Mark Francie's word.

I would say most English politicians would be glad to see the back of the North. It brings nothing to table but trouble.The rest of the UK has to subsidise it's economy and instead of them being greatful they bite the hand that feeds them.

Both UK and ireland should force them to go independent by not letting them be part of eithers country. Both nationalists and unionist lose and nobody for them to sponge of either.

FrancieBrady · 22-01-2019 11:10pm

Aegir wrote: »

I’m not gloating about anything Tom, I’m telling people to cop the **** on.

Sitting there and simply blaming the Brits, won’t work this time.

Whose fault is this mess exactly?

22-01-2019 11:20pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Whose fault is this mess exactly?

So are you saying the UK shouldn’t leave the Eu becaus it’s a bit inconvenient for the Irish?

Talk about an over blown sense of self importance.

ittakestwo · 22-01-2019 11:26pm

Aegir wrote: »

So are you saying the UK shouldn’t leave the Eu becaus it’s a bit inconvenient for the Irish?

Talk about an over blown sense of self importance.

They mean this whole mess was caused by Britian voting to leave the EU. They want to leave the EU with a deal. But they won't get a deal if there is a border on ireland. The choice is 100% britian's on what they want to do.

FrancieBrady · 22-01-2019 11:26pm

Aegir wrote: »

So are you saying the UK shouldn’t leave the Eu becaus it’s a bit inconvenient for the Irish?

Talk about an over blown sense of self importance.

The UK can go where it likes imo. They have a responsibility on this island though and they are being held to it, if they want (and they do want) a deal.

This isn't empire days anymore.

steddyeddy · 22-01-2019 11:28pm

Aegir wrote: »

I’m not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp.

Ireland needs to carry out checks on goods coming in to the single market. That is one of the key tenants. That means a border. It isn’t just an Ireland/UK border, it is an external border of the single market.

I didn’t say Ireland was leaving the single market, but if it wants to remain in it, it will need some form of border.

Ah right. So the original comment you disagreed with about Ireland staying in the custom union was right.

Junkyard Tom · 22-01-2019 11:29pm

Aegir wrote: »

So are you saying the UK shouldn’t leave the Eu becaus it’s a bit inconvenient for the Irish?

The sooner they're out the better. I feel bad for the people that voted to remain, and it's a shame that it will cause problems for us, but on the upside Rule Britannia types will have to learn to deal with Britain's place in the world as a bit-player.

zapitastas · 22-01-2019 11:53pm

The UK is certainly now in the territory of being a failed state. The only upside to a hard brexit will be a hastening of British withdrawal from the island of Ireland .

NIMAN · 23-01-2019 1:01am

Lads, BREXIT thread thata way

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This is about a bomb in Derry, which had little to do with BREXIT.

Laois_Man · 23-01-2019 1:08am

NIMAN wrote: »

Lads, BREXIT thread thata way
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This is about a bomb in Derry, which had little to do with BREXIT.

It had everything to do with Brexit - Despite what anyone says!

steddyeddy · 23-01-2019 1:15am

Aegir wrote: »

So are you saying the UK shouldn’t leave the Eu becaus it’s a bit inconvenient for the Irish?

Talk about an over blown sense of self importance.

I'm saying the Irish shouldn't have to leave because of some English nationalists want to. The majority of northern Ireland voted to remain

circadian · 23-01-2019 4:50am

Laois_Man wrote: »

It had everything to do with Brexit - Despite what anyone says!

Not so sure about that. Dissident activity has been ongoing in Derry for years now, long before anyone even mentioned Brexit.

bilbot79 · 23-01-2019 5:33am

zapitastas wrote: »

The UK is certainly now in the territory of being a failed state. .

What a quintessentially outlandish statement to make

O'Neill · 23-01-2019 9:50am

ittakestwo wrote: »

I would say most English politicians would be glad to see the back of the North. It brings nothing to table but trouble.The rest of the UK has to subsidise it's economy and instead of them being greatful they bite the hand that feeds them.

Both UK and ireland should force them to go independent by not letting them be part of eithers country. Both nationalists and unionist lose and nobody for them to sponge of either.

You talk about the North as if it's the naughty school child in the class. It's been through a lot. Up until now at least it's improved a lot. You talk about the UK subsiding the economy? By simply throwing money at the place and not actually caring about the issues of the place is inevitable going to lead to problems!

Car bomb has exploded in Derry City Centre

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