Cross Country Training Thread

Sacksian · 05-12-2018 6:21pm

Testosterscone wrote: »

Any word on the post Xmas Intermediate venue's (Leinster and All Ireland)

National Intermediate & Masters announced for Dundalk I.T. - 3rd February.

TheBigGreen · 06-12-2018 7:42am

Sacksian wrote: »

National Intermediate & Masters announced for Dundalk I.T. - 3rd February.

Aaaaah sh8te, too far up the country.

Wubble Wubble · 07-12-2018 9:58am

Timetable confirmed for National Novices and Uneven Ages

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/downloads/other/Novice_XC_Info_2018.jpg

Lovely twisty turny course out in Navan. That timetable looks a bit tight. Presumably if there's any chance of the Novice Women running into any U-19B tailenders, they'll push that one back a minute or two. 3:10 seems to be a very late start for us. Hopefully I'll get through it before nightfall :pac:

El CabaIIo · 07-12-2018 10:22pm

youngrun wrote: »

Good to see full teams across the board
Definite medal potential in a couple of cases ,Men's 23 team and U 20 team and individually in Ladies
Would have liked to see the sixth man yesterday picked, Landers had a great run has stacks of potential and is also current universities champion.Need to be giving guys like this their opportunity.
Ladies also is pretty strong.
The hunger and desire of the likes of Clohisey,Finn and O Flaherty for more racing ,high standards,and to keep pushing for international vests and medals is something to be admired and hopefully inspirational for some of those up and coming.

Maunsell is out injured now and Landers has been called in to replace him.

Duanington · 07-12-2018 11:59pm

El CabaIIo wrote: »

Maunsell is out injured now and Landers has been called in to replace him.

Looks like scullion has withdrawn too

El CabaIIo · 08-12-2018 12:23am

Duanington wrote: »

Looks like scullion has withdrawn too

Maybe just Scullion so, I heard someone was injured and pulled out and that Landers was called up. Heard it was Muansell but a quick look through twitter shows him arriving in tilburg today.

jamule · 08-12-2018 9:47am

El CabaIIo wrote: »

Maybe just Scullion so, I heard someone was injured and pulled out and that Landers was called up. Heard it was Muansell but a quick look through twitter shows him arriving in tilburg today.

Scullion got sick when he got back to Belfast earlier in the week

jamule · 09-12-2018 12:29pm

A proper cross country. Turning into a mud bath. Healy a little dissappointing.
Forsyth gave it a go, so close. U23 might not be far away.

wgtomblin · 09-12-2018 12:40pm

Healy was clipped from behind and hit the deck. She never quite recovered.

Hilarious face-plant at the finish by U23 men's winner Gressier.

Caprica · 09-12-2018 2:11pm

Very entertaining women’s race. A 3rd straight victory for Can but she had to work for it this year. I thought Schlumpf was going to take her. Bronze for Grovdal and Norway again, she had a very strong finish, maybe timed it a bit late. Gold for Netherlands, just held of the bronze. The Irish were 11th in the team, with Treacy first home in 26th.

Sarah Healy was unlucky with fall, it came just before a break was made. The course looks tough, mucky and very twisty

Caprica · 09-12-2018 2:42pm

Brilliant run by Filip Ingebritsen, for the families 2nd individual gold of the day. At one point he was in a group of 7/8 and was the only European born runner ðŸ˜

Strong run by Sean Tobin for 10th. Team GB have picked up a lot of medals but not so many golds.

jamule · 09-12-2018 2:45pm

Caprica wrote: »

Brilliant run by Filip Ingebritsen, for the families 2nd individual gold of the day. At one point he was in a group of 7/8 and was the only European born runner ðŸ˜

Strong run by Sean Tobin for 10th. Team GB have picked up a lot of medals but not so many golds.

Brits are always really strong teamwise, 1st European team today in the mens too.

youngrun · 09-12-2018 5:13pm

Caprica wrote: »

Very entertaining women’s race. A 3rd straight victory for Can but she had to work for it this year. I thought Schlumpf was going to take her. Bronze for Grovdal and Norway again, she had a very strong finish, maybe timed it a bit late. Gold for Netherlands, just held of the bronze. The Irish were 11th in the team, with Treacy first home in 26th.

Sarah Healy was unlucky with fall, it came just before a break was made. The course looks tough, mucky and very twisty

Good to see Treacy back in form. Tobin and Forsyth had great runs
Standard very high the Irish acquitted themselves well, Scullion loss didnt help

Sacksian · 09-12-2018 8:34pm

Great to see the two senior races competitive right up until the final stretch and so much talent on show in the junior races. There's often a lot more ebb and flow in xc races than the longer track distances so they're probably a better watch. World Cross in Aarhus next year should be much better than the last few competitions and given the location, we'll hopefully send a few teams - I think 2008 was the last time we had both men's & women's teams at World XC

Sacksian · 09-12-2018 8:35pm

Kevin Dooney's run from earlier:

https://www.strava.com/activities/2008983423

Sacksian · 10-12-2018 8:11pm

National Novice entry list:

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/downloads/other/MASTER_NOVICE_FINAL_entry_list_10122018.pdf

The men's team competition looks brilliant. Crusaders are probably favourites because of their depth - there'll be lots of guys fighting it out to be scorers on that team. North Belfast have finished 2nd and 3rd in the last couple of years. Rathfarnham's 1st two scorers will probably be in top 15 or very close to it and they've a strong 3rd man as well. Leevale are always there or thereabouts for medals. Dunboyne had 3 in the top 10 at the Leinster Novice and they have another 2 or 3 strong runners to add to that squad. Clonliffe, Ratoath...... anyone else?

RayCun · 10-12-2018 8:19pm

About 300 men entered - excellent!

Duanington · 11-12-2018 5:34am

RayCun wrote: »

About 300 men entered - excellent!

Hopefully most of those turn up !

RayCun · 11-12-2018 7:45am

Duanington wrote: »

Hopefully most of those turn up !

Hopefully just the slow ones

Wubble Wubble · 11-12-2018 9:36am

RayCun wrote: »

Hopefully just the slow ones

One more here, not on yesterday's list, but should be on the next one....

Duanington · 11-12-2018 10:21am

Wubble Wubble wrote: »

One more here, not on yesterday's list, but should be on the next one....

Won't make it myself but would have liked to give it a shot

Sacksian · 11-12-2018 10:36am

Duanington wrote: »

Hopefully most of those turn up !

There's generally a very big fall-off from the entry lists but I'd say you'll still be looking at 200+ finishers, especially given the venue's accessibility compared to some others in recent years.

Sacksian · 15-12-2018 8:26pm

254 finishers in the men's novice and 151 finishers in the women's, compared to 186 and 108 last year. Ferocious standard in the men's race and the volume of runners meant that you could win or lose a lot of places in the last 100m. Happy with the race, if not my placing. Still the best race on the calendar!

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/downloads/results/Results_Novice_Women.pdf
http://www.athleticsireland.ie/downloads/results/Results_Novice_Men.pdf

Wottle · 15-12-2018 8:51pm

Sacksian wrote: »

254 finishers in the men's novice and 151 finishers in the women's, compared to 186 and 108 last year. Ferocious standard in the men's race and the volume of runners meant that you could win or lose a lot of places in the last 100m. Happy with the race, if not my placing. Still the best race on the calendar!

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/downloads/results/Results_Novice_Women.pdf
http://www.athleticsireland.ie/downloads/results/Results_Novice_Men.pdf

Loved the finish up the hill. Cracking finish to the U15 girls.

youngrun · 18-12-2018 6:40pm

Wottle wrote: »

Loved the finish up the hill. Cracking finish to the U15 girls.

Mystery of the missing runner. Ladies race? What happened here?! Front of the race...
http://www.crusadersac.ie/news/high-standards-for-national-novices-and-a-podium-place-for-niamh-allen

Testosterscone · 18-12-2018 6:45pm

Sacksian wrote: »

National Intermediate & Masters announced for Dundalk I.T. - 3rd February.

Following up on this Gowran announced for Leinsters

Sacksian · 18-12-2018 8:30pm

youngrun wrote: »

Mystery of the missing runner. Ladies race? What happened here?! Front of the race...
http://www.crusadersac.ie/news/high-standards-for-national-novices-and-a-podium-place-for-niamh-allen

I hadn't heard about that on the day and only saw it in the Crusaders report.

If you look in the finish photos, you can see the 2nd placed runner isn't listed in the final results. In earlier photos taken by Kieran Carlin, she's in 4th - 5th so it's not clear when she left the course and how she got back on - I presume they know that for a fact that she cut the course as she is a very good athlete so I can't imagine it would be impossible for her to have an exceptional run.

She was also supposed to be in the u19 race and not the novice. Missed all the drama on the day!

RayCun · 18-12-2018 9:58pm

Bizarre to be both in the wrong race and to cut the course

19-12-2018 12:01am

Sacksian wrote: »

I hadn't heard about that on the day and only saw it in the Crusaders report.

If you look in the finish photos, you can see the 2nd placed runner isn't listed in the final results. In earlier photos taken by Kieran Carlin, she's in 4th - 5th so it's not clear when she left the course and how she got back on - I presume they know that for a fact that she cut the course as she is a very good athlete so I can't imagine it would be impossible for her to have an exceptional run.

She was also supposed to be in the u19 race and not the novice. Missed all the drama on the day!

Has it been established that she definitely cut the course? If she was supposed to be in the U19, it would make sense that she was disqualified just on that alone (i.e. not registered for the senior race)

youngrun · 19-12-2018 1:20am

28064212 wrote: »

Has it been established that she definitely cut the course? If she was supposed to be in the U19, it would make sense that she was disqualified just on that alone (i.e. not registered for the senior race)

I don't know
She was absolutely flying on the last lap for sure and stormed up from fifth to second
Saw race at a couple of points and saw nothing re this
If ineligible fair enough
The races at senior level were really dramatic and great to watch, the weather and course all added to it from a spectators viewpoint and hopefully a runners!

RayCun · 19-12-2018 7:44am

28064212 wrote: »

Has it been established that she definitely cut the course? If she was supposed to be in the U19, it would make sense that she was disqualified just on that alone (i.e. not registered for the senior race)

If she was eligible for u19,-she wasn't eligible for the novices. You have to be at least 19 in the year of competition.

Sacksian · 19-12-2018 10:25am

28064212 wrote: »

Has it been established that she definitely cut the course? If she was supposed to be in the U19, it would make sense that she was disqualified just on that alone (i.e. not registered for the senior race)

Well, they do say that she "had not run the full race", and I presume that was established on the day. Otherwise, it'd be unfair on the athlete who, as I said, is an accomplished junior athlete with good recent form and in the earlier photos was in 4th or 5th. All of which, you think, would make it a whole lot less likely for her to cut the course.

It's not that unusual to be dq'ed for age ineligibilty - and probably more of an achievement than an offence! There was a guy a few years ago who won the Dublin Novice and Dublin Intermediates the same year who had the Intermediate title taken away a couple days later because he was too young. And it happened Siofra Cleirigh-Buttner winning a national junior xc title at 14 or 15, I think.

RayCun · 06-01-2019 6:34pm

280 men in the Dublin Masters xc today, and 202 women. Very crowded in the first lap, but the introduction of chip timing solved the issues at the finish line.

djemba djemba · 06-01-2019 7:53pm

First cross country race today. Very enjoyable. Well done to raheny for organising.

Sacksian · 06-01-2019 8:34pm

RayCun wrote: »

280 men in the Dublin Masters xc today, and 202 women. Very crowded in the first lap, but the introduction of chip timing solved the issues at the finish line.

Disappointed to miss it - fantastic numbers, it's quite possibly the biggest men's xc field in the country - think it's bigger than last year's men's novice & masters.

Birdsong · 06-01-2019 8:52pm

Was in Raheny today, was great to see such big numbers and great racing. Lovely day for it too

Lusk_Doyle · 06-01-2019 11:21pm

First xc race since primary school. Man that was a tough start to the racing year!

Murph_D · 07-01-2019 1:50am

RayCun wrote: »

280 men in the Dublin Masters xc today, and 202 women. Very crowded in the first lap, but the introduction of chip timing solved the issues at the finish line.

Keep up Ray, chip timing last year too!

RayCun · 07-01-2019 8:33am

Murph_D wrote: »

Keep up Ray, chip timing last year too!

There was? Maybe I didn't run it last year. I'd also forgotten that we don't run through the trees at the start anymore and that change is even older.

As you can see, I'm well qualified to run the masters

Butterbeans · 07-01-2019 9:21pm

Has anyone on here run Rás na hÉireann before? Just wondering does it attract big numbers and is there a good spread of ability or more top end runners?

pconn062 · 07-01-2019 11:10pm

Butterbeans wrote: »

Has anyone on here run Rás na hÉireann before? Just wondering does it attract big numbers and is there a good spread of ability or more top end runners?

Full disclosure, I'm involved in the organisation of the Rás!

Yes the event attracts very large numbers, especially the juvenile races but the senior races are healthy too. Last year we had over 1,000 entries across all races. The senior races usually have between 60-80 runners per race but this year the entries are guaranteed to be bigger as it's the 50th anniversary. Standard is usually well mixed, this year their will be an international elite field but there is also plenty of mid pack runners (like myself) that do it. Anything down to 50 mins plus for 10k will be well in the mix.

Butterbeans · 07-01-2019 11:21pm

pconn062 wrote: »

Full disclosure, I'm involved in the organisation of the Rás!

Yes the event attracts very large numbers, especially the juvenile races but the senior races are healthy too. Last year we had over 1,000 entries across all races. The senior races usually have between 60-80 runners per race but this year the entries are guaranteed to be bigger as it's the 50th anniversary. Standard is usually well mixed, this year their will be an international elite field but there is also plenty of mid pack runners (like myself) that do it. Anything down to 50 mins plus for 10k will be well in the mix.

Thanks for that pconn062. I like the sound of it so I'll give it a go.

djemba djemba · 12-01-2019 3:38pm

Enjoyable race this morning for the BHAA cross country. Some preparation and planning must have gone into it. Mats at path crossing points was a nice touch.

Well done BOI for organising.

Also saw a Boards.ie Dublin Marathon Novices t-shirt.

MY BAD · 13-01-2019 7:30pm

How would regular cross country runners feel about having all xc races open events? In order to attract more runners to xc? To score you'd have to be registered through your club. A bit like the national 10km is open to club runners and non club runners? Just a thought.

RayCun · 13-01-2019 8:12pm

Mellow Yellow 26.2 wrote: »

How would regular cross country runners feel about having all xc races open events? In order to attract more runners to xc? To score you'd have to be registered through your club. A bit like the national 10km is open to club runners and non club runners? Just a thought.

It makes a difference to the insurance requirements.

Ceepo · 13-01-2019 8:22pm

Mellow Yellow 26.2 wrote: »

How would regular cross country runners feel about having all xc races open events? In order to attract more runners to xc? To score you'd have to be registered through your club. A bit like the national 10km is open to club runners and non club runners? Just a thought.

While i think the idea of a mass participation xc event would be great. The logistics might be a nightmare.
The tighter nature of xc courses and usually multi looped course might cause havoc...
Also bear in mind xc doesn't hold the same appeal as road races
Would be interesting all the same.

RayCun · 14-01-2019 4:47pm

There are plenty of open or semi-open XC events in Leinster already - the BHAA XC races, Ras na hEireann, Star of the Sea (I think) have one in September. I don't know that the masses are crying out for more

Kissy Lips · 14-01-2019 11:46pm

XC is by far my favourite race format and I would love to see more open XC events. There used to be 11 BHAA XC events in the calendar, now there is 6 give or take a cancellation. Ras Na hEireann clashes with a BHAA event.

youngrun · 15-01-2019 9:46am

Kissy Lips wrote: »

XC is by far my favourite race format and I would love to see more open XC events. There used to be 11 BHAA XC events in the calendar, now there is 6 give or take a cancellation. Ras Na hEireann clashes with a BHAA event.

Also the Autumn open in Abbottstown
Limerick have one early Sept, Castlegar in Galway a big promo one in Sept
Lots of open XC races
World Cross Country is open this year as well
https://www.aarhus2019.dk/en/2018/03/28/registration-for-the-iaaf-world-cross-country-championships-aarhus-2019-opens-april-4th-website-just-launched/

YFlyer · 22-01-2019 7:58pm

Hi there

Is there anyone racing the National Intermediates in Dundalk on Sunday the 3rd of February?

I'm trying to enter one of the lads.

Athletics Ireland have changed the format of their website and the link they give won't open for me either using Google Chrome or internet explorer.

www.athleticsireland.entry4sports.com

Thanks

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