Should Berlin in Dame St be closed down?

its_steve116 · 16-08-2020 2:11pm #1

Because of it breaching social distancing and all that?

I see sheep · 16-08-2020 2:12pm

Never heard of it.

L1011 · 16-08-2020 2:12pm

It'll have an exceptionally hard time keeping its licence when it comes up for renewal in September (all licences run October->September) anyway.

Although the last major licence-stripping was 20 years ago

Badly Drunk Boy · 16-08-2020 2:20pm

I've heard of Beirut Express on Dame Street, but not Berlin.

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 16-08-2020 2:40pm

L1011 wrote: »

It'll have an exceptionally hard time keeping its licence when it comes up for renewal in September (all licences run October->September) anyway.

Although the last major licence-stripping was 20 years ago

It’s not a pub so has no license to renew in September.

StefanFal · 16-08-2020 2:42pm

Because of one incident it should be closed down? Bit harsh if you ask me.

Atlantic Dawn · 16-08-2020 2:43pm

It should be closed for 40 days and 40 nights.

whisky_galore · 16-08-2020 2:43pm

Build a wall?

Lundstram · 16-08-2020 2:44pm

Because people were in there enjoying themselves?

No.

All the old Facebook fogies having a conniption over this video. Hilarious stuff.

L1011 · 16-08-2020 2:44pm

Leanna Ugly Jig wrote: »

It’s not a pub so has no license to renew in September.

It is, the LVA are trying deflection here by using their exclusionary idea of a pub.

It has a Publicans (Theatre) licence, not a Publicans 7-day; which just means they need a 'performance' (e.g. a DJ) when serving drink.

hairyslug · 16-08-2020 2:47pm

What happened in Berlin Took My Breath Away, I have No More Words but it was only a Matter Of Time. Can someone Tell Me Why etc etc

(Songs by Berlin you Philistines)

Markcheese · 16-08-2020 2:48pm

L1011 wrote: »

It is, the LVA are trying deflection here by using their exclusionary idea of a pub.

It has a Publicans (Theatre) licence, not a Publicans 7-day; which just means they need a 'performance' (e.g. a DJ) when serving drink.

Licence has the same rules (otherwise) and has the same renewal process.

Is that still a goer ? , I remember places in cork that had to do live acts ,because they were told a dj wasn't a performance for licencing purposes ,
That's a good few years back though. ..

Oranage2 · 16-08-2020 2:48pm

L1011 wrote: »

It is, the LVA are trying deflection here by using their exclusionary idea of a pub.

It has a Publicans (Theatre) licence, not a Publicans 7-day; which just means they need a 'performance' (e.g. a DJ) when serving drink.

Licence has the same rules (otherwise) and has the same renewal process.

Barman was making a holy show of the place if that counts.

Jimbob1977 · 16-08-2020 2:49pm

hairyslug wrote: »

What happened in Berlin Took My Breath Away, I have No More Words but it was only a Matter Of Time. Can someone Tell Me Why etc etc

(Songs by Berlin you Philistines)

Watching in slow motion. As you turn around and say. Covid-19. Take my breath away.

Richard Hillman · 16-08-2020 2:53pm

People going up to the bar, one by one taking drinks. Bar man had a Mask on. There were some people dancing in the background, most likely in the groups that they were with already.

What's the problem?

TheValeyard · 16-08-2020 2:53pm

Saw the clip. Was fairly stupid what the guy was doing.

Not sure it's fair on the owner to loose the licence because of some dumbass employee.

But it is a kick in the teeth for frontline workers and all those obeying the restrictions and following guidance.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 16-08-2020 2:54pm

Das ist nicht so gut...

Man with broke phone · 16-08-2020 2:56pm

This means nothing to me

Oh Vienna.

16-08-2020 2:57pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

People going up to the bar, one by one taking drinks. Bar man had a Mask on. There were some people dancing in the background, most likely in the groups that they were with already.

What's the problem?

A large proportion of customers weren't wearing masks. No distancing, alcohol being poured straight into people's mouths. You'd be making leaps if you're claiming that they weren't violating the guidelines by a pretty large margin.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 16-08-2020 2:58pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Saw the clip. Was fairly stupid what the guy was doing.

Not sure it's fair on the owner to loose the licence because of some dumbass employee.

But it is a kick in the teeth for frontline workers and all those obeying the restrictions and following guidance.

Yes, but what about if they were to lose their licence?

Remember, if everyone played it loose and free with the rules... where would we be then?

Atlantic Dawn · 16-08-2020 2:58pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Saw the clip. Was fairly stupid what the guy was doing.

Not sure it's fair on the owner to loose the licence because of some dumbass employee.

Would it be fair to say he must be either thick or didn't receive any Covid training whatsoever? I don't know which is worse :pac:

The premises is not listed as participating in the Failte Ireland Covid 19 Safety Charter....
https://www.failteireland.ie/Footer/COVID-19-Safety-Charter/List-of-businesses-compliant-with-COVID-19-safety.aspx

PhilOssophy · 16-08-2020 2:59pm

Meh. At this stage, I couldn't give a bol**x and no longer care.
It is up to people to make up their own mind. The authorities have tried their best to keep us safe, there is no more then can do for people.

bucketybuck · 16-08-2020 3:10pm

There was always going to be some video from somewhere showing young people having fun with minimal social distancing, it was guaranteed, Berlin lost the lottery here but if it wasn't them it would have been somewhere else.

The curtain twitchers will wail and gnash their teeth, the media will lap up the clicks, the government will react to the media just as they always do, NPHET will use it to further their agenda. All very predictable.

Personally I couldn't give a **** about it or any of the nonsense that will be posted about it.

Richard Hillman · 16-08-2020 3:14pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A large proportion of customers weren't wearing masks. No distancing, alcohol being poured straight into people's mouths. You'd be making leaps if you're claiming that they weren't violating the guidelines by a pretty large margin.

Masks are not needed in restaurants.
Waiters have to serve people food and drink. Social distancing not need to be applied with the serving of food and drink.
Pouring a drink into somebody's mouth from a distance, barman wearing gloves. Safer than serving from a glass that was touched with the hand.

In fact maybe all alcohol serving restaurants should be doing this?

Excellent job, Berlin. I will make it my business to visit this establishment.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 16-08-2020 3:16pm

Just for context, and there's 2 more after it.
https://twitter.com/NoelRock/status/1294764775147266049?s=19

Signore Fancy Pants · 16-08-2020 3:18pm

We are still in the midst of a pandemic with no end or vaccine in sight.

All we can realistically do is mitigate against it.

Some people think our reaction as a nation hasnt gone far enough. Others think we have gone into "overkill" with restrictions.

Some people still wont take appropriate or responsible actions to delay or restrict the onward transmission of the virus. Mainly because they domt view it as a big deal and "sure people are dying anyway...rabble rabble...ye are all sheep".

If you dont like wearing a face mask and you dont like lockdowns....well stop acting like *****. The more ***** we have, the longer this will be an issue.

As such, cases are going back up becausd the level of **** behaviour is up.

shaveAbullock · 16-08-2020 3:21pm

Public alcohol consumption + social distancing are not compatible, this has to be acknowledged.

L1011 · 16-08-2020 3:21pm

Markcheese wrote: »

Is that still a goer ? , I remember places in cork that had to do live acts ,because they were told a dj wasn't a performance for licencing purposes ,
That's a good few years back though. ..

Crowbar in Temple Bar gets away with saying that because walking tours start from the premises, its a performance...

Cork has always had stricter judges when it comes to licencing; although I do remember some places in Dublin have fire-eaters or cage dancers as the 'performance' despite having a DJ already.

shaveAbullock · 16-08-2020 3:22pm

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

We are still in the midst of a pandemic with no end or vaccine in sight.

The Russians have one, very minimal testing and I would not take it but they have one.

Bobtheman · 16-08-2020 3:25pm

Sure schools will be packed soon. We had no issues keeping off licenses open and there are still people driving trolleys full of beer out of them for house parties etc
Until you arrest people nothing will change.
I'm sure the place will be given a quiet word.
I hate virtue signalling.

Grab All Association · 16-08-2020 3:27pm

https://twitter.com/moneill2017/status/1248919234211721216?s=21

Just going to leave this here.

They posted on their Facebook page that this was fake news, but more witnesses and alleged photos of inside the hotel emerged.

The post was later removed from their Facebook.

But the GAA was founded there though

https://therave.ie/news/establishment-gains-attention-of-gardai-on-holy-thursday-night/

whisky_galore · 16-08-2020 3:30pm

But the GAA was founded there though

That makes it all right then.

Strumms · 16-08-2020 3:33pm

shaveAbullock wrote: »

Public alcohol consumption + social distancing are not compatible, this has to be acknowledged.

This. You can have 100% of people with the best of ‘intentions’ when getting their glad rags on and hopping on the bus or into a taxi but those intentions soon get forgotten after a few drinks.... it's the social environment coupled with alcohol and the effect it has on the brain, impairs judgement and decision making, lowering inhibitions etc.

Pkiernan · 16-08-2020 3:34pm

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

Just for context, and there's 2 more after it.
https://twitter.com/NoelRock/status/1294764775147266049?s=19

Gotta laugh at the dozy slappers with the masks on.
Look like classy ladies.

Signore Fancy Pants · 16-08-2020 3:36pm

shaveAbullock wrote: »

The Russians have one, very minimal testing and I would not take it but they have one.

Yeah Im aware of that but "having one" and having a proven vaccine are not one and the same. Id rather lock myself in a room for 3 years than take one of the first few batches of a Russian vaccine.

0ph0rce0 · 16-08-2020 3:41pm

Other than the pouring of the drinks and maybe, just maybe touching off peoples rotten mouths and on to the next.

Doesn't actually look that bad when you look at all 3 videos.

People aren't on top of each other. Doesn't seem to be that many either. Looks like markings on the floor where a group are all together.

sabat · 16-08-2020 3:44pm

What the f*ck happened to you people? Grassing people up to the fun police as we descend into a joyless dystopia.

RandomViewer · 16-08-2020 3:44pm

hairyslug wrote: »

What happened in Berlin Took My Breath Away, I have No More Words but it was only a Matter Of Time. Can someone Tell Me Why etc etc

(Songs by Berlin you Philistines)

Only heard of the first one

pgj2015 · 16-08-2020 3:46pm

is that a gay bar? seemed pretty gay to me.

maestroamado · 16-08-2020 3:50pm

Strumms wrote: »

This. You can have 100% of people with the best of ‘intentions’ when getting their glad rags on and hopping on the bus or into a taxi but those intentions soon get forgotten after a few drinks.... it's the social environment coupled with alcohol and the effect it has on the brain, impairs judgement and decision making, lowering inhibitions etc.

If this the formula bars will be closed for awhile.

Personally i think if owner cannot adhere be closed 2 weeks which is the accepted norm time-frame...

Deebles McBeebles · 16-08-2020 3:50pm

bucketybuck wrote: »

The curtain twitchers will wail and gnash their teeth, the media will lap up the clicks, the government will react to the media just as they always do, NPHET will use it to further their agenda. All very predictable.

Which is?

WashYourHands · 16-08-2020 3:51pm

Shut it down for good - it's a threat to Ireland

maestroamado · 16-08-2020 3:52pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Which is?

Oireachtas comittee meeting...

TheRiverman · 16-08-2020 3:56pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

People going up to the bar, one by one taking drinks. Bar man had a Mask on. There were some people dancing in the background, most likely in the groups that they were with already.

What's the problem?

Open to correction, but under the restrictions people are supposed to sit at their tables, and the staff will take their orders and serve the drink to them there.Customers should not go to the bar to order or stand and drink there.

16-08-2020 3:59pm

TheRiverman wrote: »

Open to correction, but under the restrictions people are supposed to sit at their tables, and the staff will take their orders and serve the drink to them there.Customers should not go to the bar to order or stand and drink there.

That would be correct and pouring alcohol into people's mouths is not better than a fecking glass... Some spittle ending up on the bottle etc. Really reaching to claim they were following the rules.

Richard Hillman · 16-08-2020 4:05pm

It's basically the loud music and dancing that people are objecting to. If there was no music, and people were standing still and the barman said please come to the bar for your shot in a shot glass and return to your seat in silence, there wouldn't be any objection.

shaveAbullock · 16-08-2020 4:08pm

So this was the event from someone the media calls an influencer(Jess Brennan) however she does not have many followers so I'm not sure that title is correct.

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Acosta · 16-08-2020 4:09pm

Disgraceful scenes even if there wasn't a pandemic. The f***ing state of them.

Signore Fancy Pants · 16-08-2020 4:12pm

shaveAbullock wrote: »

So this was the event from someone the media calls an influencer(Jess Brennan) however she does not have many followers so I'm not sure that title is correct.

Man thats cringy as fcuk.

Im old as fcuk though.

PhilOssophy · 16-08-2020 4:13pm

It is easy to be outraged, but where the F are the Gardai in Dublin 2 on a Saturday night?
Or who exactly is responsible for ensuring that social distancing is being adhered to?
If the answer is nobody, then it is probably time to close all the pubs.

shaveAbullock · 16-08-2020 4:13pm

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Man thats cringy as fcuk.

Im old as fcuk though.

I'm old too but it reads like some parody from a GTA game.

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