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Eir Fibre Rollout Mapping
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05-04-2013 11:00am#1
MOD WARNING--
Guys, can you please keep this thread on topic.
If your post doesn't relate to this mapping project then please don't post in this thread,
Any off topic posts will be deleted.
This thread exists to manage the boards.ie crowdsource effort behind mapping the current eircom Fibre to the Cabinet Rollout. In a few weeks we have already found about half of all the cabinets.
The most important thing to remember is that you must be located no more than 1000m from a cabinet in future and ideally ( in order to get to 100mbits or higher) you must be located no more than 500m away.
1. First of all have a look to see whether we have found your nearest cabinet or not. MAIN MAP HERE and this is updated every 2-3 days
2. If you have spotted a cabinet that is NOT on the main map and wish to add it to the map then go HERE and simply:
*Zoom in to where cab is on map
*Press EDIT button top left (you must be logged into gmail to see edit)
*Drag and drop marker to where the cab is.
*Name it , eg "Corner of Avenue and Road Monaghan" or "Beside Pats Chipper"
*Press save where the edit button was.
Done and many thanks.
3. The cabinets are VERY easily spotted. While there are many green cabinets along our roadsides only the eircom VDSL cabinets have a lock, (it looks like a giant hinge), and that is how one recognises them.
Generally the VDSL cabinets are located right alongside an older cable cabinet and sometimes up to 10m away, perhaps in shrubbery or behind a wall near a cable cabinet.
The following photo shows a typical cable cabinet ( left) and a VDSL unit (right)
Many thanks to all those who have contributed since we started this mapping effort only a few weeks ago. Between us we have found around half of all the VDSL cabinets and the target is to find and map the other half in time for service launch ( this is anticipated in late May).62
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ericom seem to have a big planning related problem in D4 and D6 so I will set an extra challenge to our mappers.
Anybody who can find an installed cabinet in the stretch from Sandymount to Rathmines ( south of the Canal and north of the Dodder) and covered by Beggars Bush and Rathmines exchanges ( and a tad covered by Nutley down around the Dodder near Clonskeagh...please post a photo of this rare beast for us.
For now nobody has found any cabinet in Nutley or Beggars Bush and them supposed to be finished ages ago. Rathmines is not scheduled for launch until late 2013 and is on or behind schedule. Do feel free to look up alleyways near Leeson St etc to see if they hid a few.
We are finally getting data from West Dublin, eg Palmerstown Chapelizod Ballyfermot Kilmainham Inchicore Tallaght Knocklyon Ballyboden Blanchardstown Clonsilla and Castleknock , many thanks keep it coming. I'm sure they are around.
Nobody in Kilkenny yet, BOO!!!!0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »Don't know if this is relevant, but in Google Streetview there is only one cabinet here, but I drove past it earlier and there was two. Didn't take a good look as was just driving past.
Just take it handy and get used to spotting them, the lock feature stands out clearly and nobody else has a big lump of a lock on their cabinets except eircom on the VDSL cab. The few ADSL cabs they ever deployed are a pale grey colour.
Once you spot one they seem to be everywhere, honest. 0 -
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Fibre related (hopefully!) activities going on in Donovan Road in Cork. (Cork Central probably as Quaker Road is done). First Cork Central activity I've seen.
Edit: Same thing happening in Bishopscourt in Bishopstown, Phase IV is well underway in Cork! I'm getting far too excited by the whole thing, my brother thinks I'm mental, getting him to stop the car whenever I see a green box or eircom van.0 -
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Spotted one in Abbey Park or whatever it's called in Arklow entirely by accident, so now I'm wondering if there's more about. Sadly I have no insurance anymore so I can't borrow the mammy's car and gale around for a bit, and my friends already think I'm enough of a nerd without asking them to drive me around town looking for eircom cabinets
Still! if anyone's on the northside of the town or in the Fishery/Churchview area, keep an eye out since I didn't realise they'd done anything around there
anyway, rambling, threw down the one in Abbeyville/Abbey Park and slipped in the telephone exchange since no one else had.0 -
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Sponge Bob wrote: »Smail problem with duplicate markers, don't worry as this can be sorted. Google have disabled a feture temporarily and I will fix it tomorrow when they re enable it. Carry on adding data and many thanks to those who have done so.
Only blanks now are Ballyboden, Kilkenny and Beggars Bush.
When I head back to the IPA in May, I could probably spend some time one day walking about up there.
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I just got asked an interesting question. I will answer it here for clarity.
Boards.ie and Daft.ie share an owner. I was not put up to this exercise by either Boards or by Daft. The Moderators have very kindly tolerated this mapping exercise _so far_ and may choose not to do so in future.
In most of Ireland property values and general rentability of houses will be INEXTRICABLY linked NOW AND IN FUTURE to proximity to FAST and fibre rich broadband services and therefore Cabinet locations are a vital indicator of the future value of property and of ease of rental of same.
Knowledge economies don't work very well when you have to jiggle the 3 Broadband dongle out a window in a plastic bag of a wet and windy night just to get a signal.
Consequently the data collected in this Boards Crowdsource Exercise is permanently available to Daft.ie on an open source and unrestricted basis and with which data they may do as they please. We wil only promise to present it as clearly as possible and check it as well as possible.
We only recommend that you personally liable to double check that a cabinet is where indicated on the map before relying on this data but I'll let the legal lads in daft write that as a disclaimer if they wish. 0 -
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Hmmm, if th
e exchange boundaries on the NGA Access map on the eircom wholesale site are correct then it would appear that these two fall under the Clonee exchange rather than Blanchardstown as they are currently mapped here.
Let me check. Download this to google earth if you have google earth.
White Lines show that Ongar is split between BDT East, CEE Centre and Dunboyne DEZ to the west.
These maps are often wrong or sloppy ....to say the least. I'd say the west part of Ongar might be covered by Clonee not Dunboyne.
The yellow coloured asset tags on cabinets will contain those letters to confirm their parent exchange. Dunboyne is not being done yet.
Not totally, the boundary data can be very slapdash in some areas.Clonee exchange is marked as Phase 1 so the build-out should be complete - which means I've got some more cab hunting to do...
Can I trust those exchange boundaries to narrow the search?
I'll run a check later and will remark anything marked wrong from BLA to Clonee. Yes there are cabs out in Clonee incl in the industrial estates N and S of the Damastown Road north of the N3. Ladyswell Road further east is in Blanchardstown.
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Do you want the cabinet tags added to the description?
Only if you are on foot or cycling and it is convenient, if you are driving by please dont go to any bother or danger over a tag. Tag checking suits some mappers and not others and the tags might not appear for months after a cab anyway as in Galway.
I'd like confirmation of the tags in Stamullen and suspect Colpe ones east of the Dublin road in the new estate though...to see if the parent exchanges are being 'abolished' 0 -
pistolpetes11 wrote: »Will I add a cabinet if its not yet in place BUT .........
If the power and fibre is sticking out of the concreted plinth I will allow it as a cabinet on the grounds that one will surely be there the next time you look. They only pour the concrete when the cabinet arrives in a container in Rotterdam or Harwich, that is how well sequenced the rollout is.
Once the cabinet arrives in Ireland it does not hang around in an eircom store, it goes from Dublin Port to the plinth more or less.
If it is a PLANNING Notice for a cabinet Chalkmarks where a PLINTH is to be dug in I'd rather it was marked ONLY as a PLANNING cabinet as it may never be built....eg as in D4 and D6 where the cabinets seem to be stuck in planning.
But i don't want people travelling around unnecessarily for the mapping project and hopefully that explanation will help. I am not worried about duplicate markers either, they can easily be sorted later.Edit : I may of changed the title of the map , sorry , I have added it on for now ,
I took out your instructions on the opening info SB by mistake .
An easy fix, happened a few times before. ( its still in the big read only map so I just copy n paste) 0 -
Sponge Bob wrote: »If the power and fibre is sticking out of the concreted plinth I will allow it as a cabinet on the grounds that one will surely be there the next time you look. They only pour the concrete when the cabinet arrives in a container in Rotterdam or Harwich, that is how well sequenced the rollout is.
Once the cabinet arrives in Ireland it does not hang around in an eircom store, it goes from Dublin Port to the plinth more or less.
If it is a PLANNING Notice for a cabinet Chalkmarks where a PLINTH is to be dug in I'd rather it was marked ONLY as a PLANNING cabinet as it may never be built....eg as in D4 and D6 where the cabinets seem to be stuck in planning.
But i don't want people travelling around unnecessarily for the mapping project and hopefully that explanation will help. I am not worried about duplicate markers either, they can easily be sorted later.
An easy fix, happened a few times before. ( its still in the big read only map so I just copy n paste)
Would seem that its all set to go ,
and they have ran power to it too ,
Quick question , I live in the estate across the road , would our fibre be getting ran from this also or would it run from the cabinet in our estate which is just across the road (100mtrs )
New Cab Location
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=200976005490800150654.0004d6a674e6be3826dcb&msa=0&ll=53.166098,-6.787252&spn=4.182646,11.634521&iwloc=0004da00d26d568216248
Old Cab in my estate across the road
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=200976005490800150654.0004d6a674e6be3826dcb&msa=0&ll=53.166404,-6.788468&spn=4.182646,11.634521&iwloc=0004da00d26d5682162480 -
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pistolpetes11 wrote: »Id say they will put a cabinet in , they had a ADSL one in both areas so one would presume they will do the same for VDSL , one can only live in hope .
The OLD cabs shown on left in Post #1 are cable cabinets. An ADSL cabinet is 1.5m tall or so, Grey, Double Doored and with vents on top. Never heard of any in Newbridge. Pics appreciated.Will save me a fortune driving up and down to D4 most days when in reality with decent broadband a lot of what I do can be done from home.
Exactly. The uplink speed in suburbia is a killer nowadays as many suburbanites are 2 miles out from the exchange in the heart of the old town.
The people who REALLY benefit are EG stay at home mums who can get Telework CS jobs, most Teleworkers need 5 down and 1 up minimum to remote a desk and these speeds were not available at those suburban distances. They will be later this year and it will transform many peoples prospects.0 -
pistolpetes11 wrote: »Will save me a fortune driving up and down to D4 most days when in reality with decent broadband a lot of what I do can be done from home.
I can see many individuals (designers, programmers, entrepreneurs etc) and businesses benefiting massively from the fibre rollout. 0 -
Sponge Bob wrote: »The OLD cabs shown on left in Post #1 are cable cabinets. An ADSL cabinet is 1.5m tall or so, Grey, Double Doored and with vents on top. Never heard of any in Newbridge. Pics appreciated.
Exactly. The uplink speed in suburbia is a killer nowadays as many suburbanites are 2 miles out from the exchange in the heart of the old town.
The people who REALLY benefit are EG stay at home mums who can get Telework CS jobs, most Teleworkers need 5 down and 1 up minimum to remote a desk and these speeds were not available at those suburban distances. They will be later this year and it will transform many peoples prospects.
I will get a few pics tomorrow ,
Ive seen the double doored grey ones in Athgarvan but not in Newbridge ,0 -
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Sponge Bob wrote: »Yes, Athgarvan has one and there are a few around Naas especially north of the M7 but not Newbridge that I know of, get an asset tag if you find one on a yellow sticker.
Will do ,
The cable cab outside Belmount is the same as the one in Kilbelin Abbey , Il also check Walshestown tomorrow ,
The baby will be delighted with such a long walk !
Whats the difference between a cable cab and the ASDL cab performance /spec wise ?0 -
pistolpetes11 wrote: »Whats the difference between a cable cab and the ASDL cab performance /spec wise ?
A cable cab ( left picture on post one) has no electronics at all.
It is the point where eircom break "E(xchange) Side" 300 pair cables into D Side ( customer ) 100 pairs to your estate across the road and 100 pairs along the road and 100 pairs to the estate beside it.
It is the nearest point to YOUR house where they can pick up the 200 customers they need to fill the VDSL cabinet, after that they can only put 100 customers onto a 200 port cabinet..logically. 0 -
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