The Impossible Burger 2.0

emaherx · 19-05-2019 11:41am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Unless there putting the roundup in the fermentation tank I don't see how it'll end up in the burger. Has anyone actually read how they produce the soy.

Have you?
Produce soy in a fermentation tank?

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 11:51am

emaherx wrote: »

Have you?
Produce soy in a fermentation tank?

No they produce GM yeast in a fermentation tank then extract the soy based ingredient they need.
"First, we grow yeast via fermentation. Then, we isolate the soy leghemoglobin (containing heme) from the yeast, and add it to the Impossible Burger"
I don't see where the roundup comes into the equation.

Just to add the burger made that way isn't out for about another week so the article relating to roundup couldn't have tested it. There referring to the land based soy from a few years ago.

my3cents · 19-05-2019 12:02pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

No they produce GM yeast in a fermentation tank then extract the soy based ingredient they need.
"First, we grow yeast via fermentation. Then, we isolate the soy leghemoglobin (containing heme) from the yeast, and add it to the Impossible Burger"
I don't see where the roundup comes into the equation.

What do you think the GM yeast feeds on?

Roundup is sprayed on the GM soybean crop the GM soybeans absorb roundup, GM soybeans are fermented with a GM yeast. The extract will therefore have some roundup in it.

Base price · 19-05-2019 12:08pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

No they produce GM yeast in a fermentation tank then extract the soy based ingredient they need.
"First, we grow yeast via fermentation. Then, we isolate the soy leghemoglobin (containing heme) from the yeast, and add it to the Impossible Burger"
I don't see where the roundup comes into the equation.

Just to add the burger made that way isn't out for about another week so the article relating to roundup couldn't have tested it. There referring to the land based soy from a few years ago.

According to their own website the new composition is already launched. Also according to their website the second ingredient is Soy Protein Concentrate. According to wiki soy protein concentrate retains most of the fibre of the original bean. They also have a note that the composition contains Soy.

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 12:11pm

Where are you getting the GM soybean from, there is none, it's GM yeast which produces the extract the need. No need for soybean.
Are you seriously trying to say the FDA have approved roundup burgers.

Base price · 19-05-2019 12:18pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Where are you getting the GM soybean from, there is none, it's GM yeast which produces the extract the need. No need for soybean.
Are you seriously trying to say the FDA have approved roundup burgers.

Here in their list of ingredients:

Water, Soy Protein Concentrate, Coconut Oil, Sunflower Oil, Natural Flavors, 2% or less of: Potato Protein, Methylcellulose, Yeast Extract, Cultured Dextrose, Food Starch Modified, Soy Leghemoglobin, Salt, Soy Protein Isolate, Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E), Zinc Gluconate, Thiamine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B1), Sodium Ascorbate (Vitamin C), Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B12.

Contains: Soy

my3cents · 19-05-2019 12:19pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Where are you getting the GM soybean from, there is none, it's GM yeast which produces the extract the need. No need for soybean.
Are you seriously trying to say the FDA have approved roundup burgers.

How do you grow yeast or do you think its Genetically engineered out of thin air?

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 12:37pm

my3cents wrote: »

How do you grow yeast or do you think its Genetically engineered out of thin air?

The yeast isn't in the burger. Your assuming the farms there using all use roundup and that roundup is then finding its way into the burger. That's all just assumptions there is nothing to back up that train of thought anywhere.
Let's say there is roundup in it, they've now figured out how to make the extract using alge.

Is the bread we eat everyday laced with roundup?

emaherx · 19-05-2019 12:42pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

The yeast isn't in the burger. Your assuming the farms there using all use roundup and that roundup is then finding its way into the burger. That's all just assumptions there is nothing to back up that train of thought anywhere.
Let's say there is roundup in it, they've now figured out how to make the extract using alge.

Is the bread we eat everyday laced with roundup?

It's not just the yeast that is GM

Impossible foods wrote:

Starting later this month, some of the soy protein used in the Impossible Burger will come from genetically modified soybeans sourced from farms in Iowa, Minnesota and Illinois.

Yes round up is found in lots of our food. But in much higher concertrations in GM foods as they have engineered the food to be resistant to it purely so they can use more of it.

my3cents · 19-05-2019 12:48pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

The yeast isn't in the burger. Your assuming the farms there using all use roundup and that roundup is then finding its way into the burger. That's all just assumptions there is nothing to back up that train of thought anywhere.
Let's say there is roundup in it, they've now figured out how to make the extract using alge.

Is the bread we eat everyday laced with roundup?

But we aren't arguing that the yeast is in the burger. The soybean is in the burger and the soybean has roundup in it.

Yes a lot of bread has roundup in it. Hard to avoid it. The papers quote 60% of bread has roundup in it https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/24/eu-brink-historic-decision-pervasive-glyphosate-weedkiller .

stefanovich · 19-05-2019 12:49pm

my3cents wrote: »

But we aren't arguing that the yeast is in the burger. The soybean is in the burger and the soybean has roundup in it.

Yes a lot of bread has roundup in it. Hard to avoid it. The papers quote 60% of bread has roundup in it https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/24/eu-brink-historic-decision-pervasive-glyphosate-weedkiller .

Bread sold in Irish supermarkets is utter ****. Toxic.

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 12:58pm

my3cents wrote: »

But we aren't arguing that the yeast is in the burger. The soybean is in the burger and the soybean has roundup in it.

Yes a lot of bread has roundup in it. Hard to avoid it. The papers quote 60% of bread has roundup in it https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/24/eu-brink-historic-decision-pervasive-glyphosate-weedkiller .

I'm not trying to knock beef with this question but can you assume most meat fed with anything grown also contains roundup seen as we seem to have some in us.
That's pretty shocking numbers from the guardian article, is the same true in Ireland, all our bread is contaminated?

stefanovich · 19-05-2019 1:00pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I'm not trying to knock beef with this question but can you assume most meat fed with anything grown also contains roundup seen as we seem to have some in us.
That's pretty shocking numbers from the guardian article, is the same true in Ireland, all our bread is contaminated?

Organic meat.

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 1:07pm

stefanovich wrote: »

Organic meat.

It can still be fed on products where roundup was used in production from my reading of what your allowed to use as feed.

emaherx · 19-05-2019 1:19pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It can still be fed on products where roundup was used in production from my reading of what your allowed to use as feed.

If the above is true, those feeds are a tiny part of most Irish beef cattles diets. (Organic or or not)

If I had to pick between eating something with high levels of round up and eating something which ate something else that had high levels of round up, I know which one I'd choose.

I'd bet detectable levels in beef will be miniscule compared with this fake meat.

Also the levels detected in the impossible burger are 11 times higher than it's nearest competitor in the fake meat business.

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 1:27pm

emaherx wrote: »

If the above is true, those feeds are a tiny part of most Irish beef cattles diets. (Organic or or not)

If I had to pick between eating something with high levels of round up and eating something which ate something else that had high levels of round up, I know which one I'd choose.

I'd bet detectable levels in beef will be miniscule compared with this fake meat.

Also the levels detected in the impossible burger are 11 times higher than it's nearest competitor in the fake meat business.

All assumptions again and you referenced the article that doesn't refer to a product still on the market.

emaherx · 19-05-2019 2:00pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

All assumptions again and you referenced the article that doesn't refer to a product still on the market.

You make plenty of your own assumptions.

But what exactly do you disagree with what I said in that quote.

The high levels of round up are in the product currently on the market and they are moving to a new source of soybeans which will have even higher levels. Their move to GM soybeans is not an attempt to reduce such levels.

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 2:35pm

There's nothing to agree or disagree it's just an assumption you've made and can't back up with any facts.
Your stating there now going to move to an ingredient with even more roundup in it. I think that's nonsense and scaremongering, I haven't the facts nor can I find them anywhere so your entitled to your assumption as much as I am that your assumptions are horse manure.

Base price · 19-05-2019 2:52pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There's nothing to agree or disagree it's just an assumption you've made and can't back up with any facts.
Your stating there now going to move to an ingredient with even more roundup in it. I think that's nonsense and scaremongering, I haven't the facts nor can I find them anywhere so your entitled to your assumption as much as I am that your assumptions are horse manure.

They changed the protein source from Wheat protein to Soy protein in the new composition. See the first link for 2019 ingredients and the second for the previous.
https://faq.impossiblefoods.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018937494-What-are-the-ingredients-
https://faq.impossiblefoods.com/hc/en-us/articles/360021729274-What-was-the-original-Impossible-Burger-

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 3:10pm

Without anything to back up the roundup claims. You can't claim the new process is worse. I'm sure the facts will come out in time. I'd be just as concerned about the vegetables and bun as the burger itself from what I've read this morning.

These guys were producing more beef substitute by the end of 2018 than our entire beef industry. That's just impossible foods.
Ridiculing it as agriculture is involved in the process isn't going to end well for more than beef farmers. You could be unintentionally cause a kick back to farming in general shouting about roundup without facts.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 19-05-2019 4:25pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Without anything to back up the roundup claims. You can't claim the new process is worse. I'm sure the facts will come out in time. I'd be just as concerned about the vegetables and bun as the burger itself from what I've read this morning.

These guys were producing more beef substitute by the end of 2018 than our entire beef industry. That's just impossible foods.
Ridiculing it as agriculture is involved in the process isn't going to end well for more than beef farmers. You could be unintentionally cause a kick back to farming in general shouting about roundup without facts.

In the first incarnation of this product, textured wheat protein was the primary ingredient with less than 2% leghemoglobin.

In the second incarnation of this product, that textured wheat has been replaced by soy protein concentrate, again with less than 2% leghemoglobin.

Therefore, there is now much, much higher levels of soy present in the product.

As the vast majority of soya in the USA is Roundup ready soya (90%) and there is absolutely no roundup ready wheat, the risk of glyphosate being present in the product has increased exponentially.

RHJ · 19-05-2019 4:55pm

https://medium.com/impossible-foods/setting-the-record-straight-how-moms-across-america-lies-to-promote-a-dangerous-fundamentalist-bea50822605a

Impossible Foods have responded to the latest bull**** from the anti-science fruit cakes.

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 5:21pm

You know the antivaxer brigade here won't believe a word of that. It's a burger made from roundup that's all they can see.

emaherx · 19-05-2019 5:37pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You know the antivaxer brigade here won't believe a word of that. It's a burger made from roundup that's all they can see.

Antivaxer brigade? That's one hell of a weird assumption. Horse manure even.

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 5:43pm

emaherx wrote: »

Antivaxer brigade? That's one hell of a weird assumption. Horse manure even.

You kept quoting the looney tune article, now it's been called out as manure. Even the tiniest bit of research you would have known that. A look through there online shop was enough for me to know there crack pots. Pure clickbait and they got you hook line and sinker.

Base price · 19-05-2019 5:56pm

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

In the first incarnation of this product, textured wheat protein was the primary ingredient with less than 2% leghemoglobin.

In the second incarnation of this product, that textured wheat has been replaced by soy protein concentrate, again with less than 2% leghemoglobin.

Therefore, there is now much, much higher levels of soy present in the product.

As the vast majority of soya in the USA is Roundup ready soya (90%) and there is absolutely no roundup ready wheat, the risk of glyphosate being present in the product has increased exponentially.

"There are non so blind as those who will not see" springs to mind.

emaherx · 19-05-2019 7:42pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You kept quoting the looney tune article, now it's been called out as manure. Even the tiniest bit of research you would have known that. A look through there online shop was enough for me to know there crack pots. Pure clickbait and they got you hook line and sinker.

Kept quoting? No I didn't. I posted that link alright but I only quoted impossible foods statement which was they were switching to GM soybeans which is true. And I claimed that would lead to an increase in round up found in the burger which is an assumption alright but a fairly well grounded one. That was backed up by other posters here with relevant links.

The only BS here was when you tried to say they didn't grow soya, but produced it in fermentation vats.

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 8:20pm

Your assumption is knocking farming in general and not just the impossible burger I'd give it a rest until you've some facts to back up your well grounded assumptions before you do any more damage to the food cycle.
Unless I've missed something there's roundup all over the food we eat and even in so called organic food.

emaherx · 19-05-2019 8:27pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Your assumption is knocking farming in general and not just the impossible burger I'd give it a rest until you've some facts to back up your well grounded assumptions before you do any more damage to the food cycle.
Unless I've missed something there's roundup all over the food we eat and even in so called organic food.

Much less in beef compared with this crap. Plenty of facts linked above don't need to repost what others already have.

drunkmonkey · 19-05-2019 8:37pm

emaherx wrote: »

Much less in beef compared with this crap. Plenty of facts linked above don't need to repost what others already have.

Again your referencing the bs article to make that claim as there is no other source you could be using.
There has been facts about the burger but you either didn't read it or just blatantly ignoring it and continuing with the roundup burger mantra.

emaherx · 19-05-2019 8:52pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Again your referencing the bs article to make that claim as there is no other source you could be using.
There has been facts about the burger but you either didn't read it or just blatantly ignoring it and continuing with the roundup burger mantra.

Don't need to reference the Article. Impossible foods have made a statement saying they are using GM soybeans. Soybeans are genetically modified for 2 reasons, first is to make Roundup ready and second is to improve quality of the oil. They are not using the oil. You seem fairly fixated on that one link and blatantly ignore those posted by the others here.

emaherx · 19-05-2019 8:59pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I'm not trying to knock beef with this question but can you assume most meat fed with anything grown also contains roundup seen as we seem to have some in us.
That's pretty shocking numbers from the guardian article, is the same true in Ireland, all our bread is contaminated?

And as for this nonsense. Beef cattle mostly eat grass. Roundup in grass is counter productive. Some supplemental food may contain some Roundup but that is far from assuming anything grown contains round up. And you want others to fact check? Do you think the levels in beef will compare to a crop designed specifically to be managed using round up?

Markcheese · 19-05-2019 9:05pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Your assumption is knocking farming in general and not just the impossible burger I'd give it a rest until you've some facts to back up your well grounded assumptions before you do any more damage to the food cycle.
Unless I've missed something there's roundup all over the food we eat and even in so called organic food.

There shouldn't be roundup in organic food... Its not allowed,
But its everywhere at this stage, there's quite a lot in wheat, as its often sprayed on shortly before harvest as a desiccant, in Ireland anyway..
Its in most watersupplies to some degree, and if you test your urine it'll more than likely be present...

Upstream · 20-05-2019 12:36am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It can still be fed on products where roundup was used in production from my reading of what your allowed to use as feed.

From the Irish IOFGA Organic Food and Farming Standards

Livestock productivity
Do I have to use 100 % organic feed?
Yes.

And in America from USDA's organic standards

Cattle can only be fed 100% organically-produced feed

So they're pretty clear - no roundup applications are allowed in the production of feed for organic beef.
How did you read differently?

drunkmonkey · 20-05-2019 1:52am

Have we a supply problem with Organic beef here, you'd often see organic mince in the supermarkets but have to head to the farmers market or in-laws farm for something like a steak. Don't ever recall seeing an organic steak in a supermarket or any pre cooked meats like ham, turkey, beef etc.
I'm going to assume that most farmers here would nearly be organic by default just without the labelling and red tape that goes with it. I can imagine it puts a big dent in profits as well. There seems to little marketing behind the products, off the top of my head I can't think what the certified organic meat label looks like even though I buy the organic mince regularly.
It's something that should be concentrated on with the health buzz around fake meats.

longgonesilver · 20-05-2019 1:54am

Postpone the argument lads until someone finds more reliable sources.

That guardian article says that 60% of bread was contaminated so round-up isn't everywhere.

When you get down to a parts/million analysis non of us would be happy with any food we are probably better off not knowing what is there. Something from Chernobyl?, Something from an Icelandic volcano? Some micro plastics?

If you ate a standard 800G sliced pan every day of your life and lived to be 100 you would eat slightly over 29 ton of bread. If there was a contaminant at 1 ppm in that bread you would have consumed 29 grams of contaminant in your lifetime.

gozunda · 20-05-2019 8:28am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Where are you getting the GM soybean from, there is none, it's GM yeast which produces the extract the need. No need for soybean.
Are you seriously trying to say the FDA have approved roundup burgers.

Soybean is the main ingredient. Soybeans grown in dirt (as our American friends would call it). It's what most of the burger is made up of.

Bizarrly you seem to believe that the entire soy product of the Imp. Burger is somehow made in a vat from the GM yeast! It's not.

Again these are the ingredients

Water, Soy Protein Concentrate, Coconut Oil, Sunflower Oil, Natural Flavors, 2% or less of: Potato Protein, Methylcellulose, Yeast Extract, Cultured Dextrose, Food Starch Modified, Soy Leghemoglobin, Salt, Soy Protein Isolate, Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E), Zinc Gluconate, Thiamine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B1), Sodium Ascorbate (Vitamin C), Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B12.

The stuff added which makes this concoction 'taste' of meat / makes it 'bleed' (wtf?) is the soy leghemoglobin (produced from the GM yeast) and which makes up only 2% of the entire burger.

The filler or the 'meat' substitute is primarily "soy protein concentrate" (No. 1 ingredient on the list) and this makes up the bulk of the burger. This protein concentrate is derived from soy bean meal - a waste product of the soy oil production process.

Xcellor · 20-05-2019 9:30am

gozunda wrote: »

The soybean is 'needed'. It's what most of the burger is made up of.

Bizarrly you seem to believe that the entire soy product of the Imp. Burger is somehow made from the GM yeast! Its not.

Again these are the ingredients

Water, Soy Protein Concentrate, Coconut Oil, Sunflower Oil, Natural Flavors, 2% or less of: Potato Protein, Methylcellulose, Yeast Extract, Cultured Dextrose, Food Starch Modified, Soy Leghemoglobin, Salt, Soy Protein Isolate, Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E), Zinc Gluconate, Thiamine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B1), Sodium Ascorbate (Vitamin C), Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B12.

The stuff that makes this connection 'taste' of meat / makes it 'bleed' (wtf?) is the soy leghemoglobin (produced from the GM yeast) and which makes up only 2% of the entire burger.

The filler or the 'meat' substitute is primarily "soy protein concentrate" (No. 1 ingredient on the list) and this makes up the bulk of the burger. This protein concentrate is derived from soy bean meal - a waste product of the soy oil production process.

Doesn't seem to be any GMO in the burgers. The yeast that is GMO creates a protein which is naturally occuring and it available in other plants just in less quantity. The yeast itself is not an ingredient in the burgers.

https://sciblogs.co.nz/code-for-life/2018/07/06/the-impossible-burger-is-not-genetically-engineered/

Also genetic engineering has many routine applications

emaherx · 20-05-2019 10:45am

Xcellor wrote: »

Doesn't seem to be any GMO in the burgers. The yeast that is GMO creates a protein which is naturally occuring and it available in other plants just in less quantity. The yeast itself is not an ingredient in the burgers.

https://sciblogs.co.nz/code-for-life/2018/07/06/the-impossible-burger-is-not-genetically-engineered/

Also genetic engineering has many routine applications

That was true in 2018, company announced this month a move to GM soybeans.

roosterman71 · 20-05-2019 11:08am

Anyone got any idea of what the investment to date has been into this? I mean, all the money spent on research and whatnot?

gozunda · 20-05-2019 11:59am

Xcellor wrote: »

Doesn't seem to be any GMO in the burgers. The yeast that is GMO creates a protein which is naturally occuring and it available in other plants just in less quantity. The yeast itself is not an ingredient in the burgers.Also genetic engineering has many routine applications

The impossible burgers are now made with GMO soy protein / meal. This is the main ingredient of the burger

The soy leghemoglobin (SLH) used in the burgers to mimic meat and produced from the GM yeast is a protein that's never before been in the human food supply and in itself remains an area of contention.

Other issues include:
For vegetarians and those that eat a normal mixed diet gmo plants may lead to more people being exposed to genetically engineered ingredients whether they wish to consume such foods or otherwise.

On an environmental level it has been promoted that new herbicide-tolerant GM crops require less herbicides. However this is not the case. The use of Roundup and other herbicides on genetically modified crops has increased by tens of millions of pounds compared to non-GM conventional agriculture.

That's just a small part of the debate. Best do some research tbh.

Tar.Aldarion · 20-05-2019 12:15pm

Just had one of these in the US, it was amazing. Delicious. Had it at bareburger. They are going to be in all burger Kings there now.

Mooooo · 20-05-2019 12:22pm

I find the thing of burgers strange, as if they are the standard meat is judged off. Fair enough you can get nice burgers in places where they are freshly prepared but a lot of the time it is more to do with what is served with or on them.
Its cuts of meat such as steak etc. is a better judgement of quality of meat, McDonald's burger king etc are all just fast food, not exactly what one would call fine dining.

Xcellor · 20-05-2019 1:36pm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5813221/

Link to the study on whether this protein is safe for human consumption. Interesting is this

"Dietary exposure to plant Hbs is also common. Sprouted barley, widely used in the beverage industry (malted barley) and in the bakingindustry (malted barley flour), has been shown to express Hb 2–3 days after imbibition.[3] In legumes, four major leghemoglobin (LegHb) isoproteins are generally found in root nodules, where atmospheric N2 is reduced to ammonia and assimilated in exchange for photosynthetically produced sugars.[4,5] LegHb is structurally similar to the widely consumed mammalian myoglobins"

So humans have had this protein in their diet in the past. Also the animal form which is eaten all the time

"LegHb is structurally similar to the widely consumed mammalian myoglobins.[6] They share an identical heme cofactor (heme

, which binds oxygen with high affinity. These mammalian myoglobins share a common history of safe use in foods."

So I'm not sure the concern over the safety of this ingredient is merited.

gozunda · 20-05-2019 2:18pm

Mooooo wrote: »

I find the thing of burgers strange, as if they are the standard meat is judged off. Fair enough you can get nice burgers in places where they are freshly prepared but a lot of the time it is more to do with what is served with or on them.
Its cuts of meat such as steak etc. is a better judgement of quality of meat, McDonald's burger king etc are all just fast food, not exactly what one would call fine dining.

I'd agree tbh. And whatever these fake 'burgers' are - they are not 'whole foods' for sure. Pure processed junk imo. Yeah and I know some people like junk food but I dont get this endless promotion of this s*****

_Brian · 20-05-2019 2:27pm

Mooooo wrote: »

I find the thing of burgers strange, as if they are the standard meat is judged off. Fair enough you can get nice burgers in places where they are freshly prepared but a lot of the time it is more to do with what is served with or on them.
Its cuts of meat such as steak etc. is a better judgement of quality of meat, McDonald's burger king etc are all just fast food, not exactly what one would call fine dining.

Yep.
Imagine how many millions were spent trying to replicate a 3rd rate overprocessed food ?

Truth is this is abkut business and money, these investors see an opportunity and are going all out to capitalise on it.

gozunda · 20-05-2019 8:31pm

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Just had one of these in the US, it was amazing. Delicious. Had it at bareburger. They are going to be in all burger Kings there now.

https://i.imgur.com/mBiyNEwl.jpg

Seriously any need for the overt food porn?

Xcellor · 21-05-2019 12:05pm

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Just had one of these in the US, it was amazing. Delicious. Had it at bareburger. They are going to be in all burger Kings there now.

I got the same in bareburger and had to ask twice were they sure I was given the right burger...

My wife got the beyond burger. While also very nice the impossible burger is indistinguishable, texture, flavour SPOT on ...

gozunda · 22-05-2019 1:38pm

Looks like not all reviews are in agreement for the 2.0 version.

But I do wonder how many of the gushing reviews so far are really independent and not from vested interests?

Goodhousekeeping.com (which cites editorial independence and flags sponsored content etc)

The first is that (the Impossible burger) contains way less protein — 19 grams versus 28 grams — which may make it less filling..."The bigger downside of the Impossible Burger is that it’s also 2 grams higher in saturated fat, likely because of the coconut oil that's added," she adds. "Coconut oil contains the highest saturated fat content of any plant-based oil, despite its super 'health halo.'"

The Impossible Burger also contains a lot more sodium — about 15% of your recommended value, compared to just 4% in plain beef...

If you love burgers and you’re opting in on the Impossible Burger because 'plant-based' seems like the healthier alternative, I’d rather you go with the regular burger and enjoy every bite,"

"It’s not a universally better choice, no matter what the buzzword is that’s attached to the name," says Jaclyn London, MS, RD, CDN, Nutrition Director at the Good Housekeeping Institute. "Plant-based protein that’s used to create something new — and therefore highly processed — is susceptible to being loaded with sodium and saturated fat."

The review details how with regard to the actual taste etc - the reviewer couldn't detect much of a difference and concluded that cutting back on processed foods etc may be a better idea overall...

drunkmonkey · 02-06-2019 3:21pm

Here we go, eggs without chickens.... https://www.clarafoods.com

The Impossible Burger 2.0

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