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Justin Credible Darts · 11-11-2019 11:59pm

I think crashing airlines in to sky scrapers in the name of some invisible man would not be beneficial to the environment or global warming

Tony EH · 12-11-2019 1:31am

blueshade wrote: »

You really should educate yourself. The Crusades were a response to the Muslim threat.

That's the propaganda anyway. But there were numerous crusades too that couldn't rely on that phony story.

The ostensible reason for the first crusade may be played as a "rescue mission" for the Byzantine Empire. But that's just the same as Hitler saying he invaded Czechoslovakia because Hacha "asked him to". Neither excuse holds water.

The reality is that the Church had been envious of the Holy Land for many years before the first crusaders even left Europe and had been looking for a way to increase their influence in the Holy Land for nearly two centuries. Anatolia being lost to the Turks just provided a handy cover story.

But the Byzantine Empire had been in a barney with Seluq over North African and Middle Eastern territory for years. This wasn't just some new event that warranted Church action, all of a sudden.

Think of it more like 9/11 providing an excuse to invade Iraq.

Mules · 12-11-2019 1:34am

Anyway despite the crusaders claiming they were going over to defend the Byzantine Christians, they ended up attacking them too.

12-11-2019 3:44am

blueshade wrote: »

You really should educate yourself. The Crusades were a response to the Muslim threat.

The crusades were far more than a response to "the" Muslim threat. They were the expansion of the RC into the M.East to increase its power, to make it comparable in might to the European monarchs.

As for the ''True Faith'', England was tearing itself apart over religion and many Europeans fled to America where they then proceeded to slaughter the indigenous people in a land grab. Some people never learn that importing millions of people whose beliefs and ideologies are at polar opposites with their own is an extremely bad idea. Native American culture was almost eradicated and the same is true of the native Australian people.

Ah, yes, because the natives of America and Australia had any choice facing colonialism, and your time scale is completely out of wack. The crusades were before the English colonization of America, and subjugation of the natives. Perhaps the Spanish colonization of S.America is what you're thinking of? Even then, your time line is rather... loose.

But its more of this colonialism being incredibly "unfair". Nations expanded and conquered those less powerful than them. Look at the size of China and Russia. The Mongols slaughtered hundreds of cultures who took land from others and were then destroyed themselves. The Persians expanded and took a huge swath of land. Same with the Zulu's and other cultures. This whole white people bad is just naive rubbish. They were just more successful in a later period and maintained their scientific superiority.

Midster wrote: »

So I shall repeat the question, this time in a more simpler format.

Perhaps respond to what I wrote? hmm? Then you might be worth commenting on. You seem to expect people to accept your points without argument, simply repeating yourself until they're accepted.

Feisar · 12-11-2019 9:06am

LaFuton wrote: »

whats the actual point of this thread?

I thought it was a “safe space” for unpopular opinions.

Tacitus Kilgore · 12-11-2019 9:31am

Feisar wrote: »

I thought it was a “safe space” for unpopular opinions.

Popular opinion:

Judging by the last few pages, it ain't.

Feisar · 12-11-2019 9:59am

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Popular opinion:

Judging by the last few pages, it ain't.

:pac:

In fairness if someone attacked an unpopular opinion of mine I wouldn't bother defending it in here.

Midster · 12-11-2019 11:53am

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

I think crashing airlines in to sky scrapers in the name of some invisible man would not be beneficial to the environment or global warming

Was definitely 2 less airliners anyway

blueshade · 12-11-2019 12:24pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The crusades were far more than a response to "the" Muslim threat. They were the expansion of the RC into the M.East to increase its power, to make it comparable in might to the European monarchs.

Ah, yes, because the natives of America and Australia had any choice facing colonialism, and your time scale is completely out of wack. The crusades were before the English colonization of America, and subjugation of the natives. Perhaps the Spanish colonization of S.America is what you're thinking of? Even then, your time line is rather... loose.

But its more of this colonialism being incredibly "unfair". Nations expanded and conquered those less powerful than them. Look at the size of China and Russia. The Mongols slaughtered hundreds of cultures who took land from others and were then destroyed themselves. The Persians expanded and took a huge swath of land. Same with the Zulu's and other cultures. This whole white people bad is just naive rubbish. They were just more successful in a later period and maintained their scientific superiority.

Perhaps respond to what I wrote? hmm? Then you might be worth commenting on. You seem to expect people to accept your points without argument, simply repeating yourself until they're accepted.

I bet it took you ages to Google all that.

12-11-2019 2:33pm

blueshade wrote: »

I bet it took you ages to Google all that.

Why would I need to? I read.

Anyway, I live in China, and VPN's are pretty much useless at the moment due to the HK situation. I'm stuck with Baidu search.

the beer revolu · 12-11-2019 3:41pm

The vast, vast majority of the victims of ISIS were Muslims, yet we seem to think that Muslims are out to get us.

BattleCorp · 12-11-2019 3:43pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

The vast, vast majority of the victims of ISIS were Muslims, yet we seem to think that Muslims are out to get us.

The ISIS Muslims are out to get us. That's a fact.

blinding · 12-11-2019 3:48pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

The vast, vast majority of the victims of ISIS were Muslims, yet we seem to think that Muslims are out to get us.

Thats only them getting warmed up for what they have in for us .

We’re lucky to be getting that warning . We would be stupid not to heed it .

blueshade · 12-11-2019 4:27pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

The vast, vast majority of the victims of ISIS were Muslims, yet we seem to think that Muslims are out to get us.

They were the wrong sort of Muslim. Do you know anything at all about Islam? Do you know for example that it isn't a nice religion? It's main prophet, the guy they worship as the finest man to ever walk the planet, was a slave trading warmongering pedophile. So I have the deepest reservations about the type of individual who could follow anyone like that. Why do so many seem so blind to what Islam actually is and what it actually wants? It is a vile hateful ideology completely at odds with the modern world.

blueshade · 12-11-2019 4:29pm

Senator Grealish has been accused of racism for querying where the 8 billion euro that's been sent from Ireland to Nigeria over the past 10 years has come from. I don't find that racist, I find it an extremely pertinent question, especially given that the issue was raised much further back than that but no answers were forthcoming. Given that the majority of Nigerians living in Ireland don't work one does have to wonder where the money is coming from and who it's going to in Nigeria.

the beer revolu · 12-11-2019 4:33pm

blueshade wrote: »

Senator Grealish has been accused of racism for querying where the 8 billion euro that's been sent from Ireland to Nigeria over the past 10 years has come from. I don't find that racist, I find it an extremely pertinent question, especially given that the issue was raised much further back than that but no answers were forthcoming. Given that the majority of Nigerians living in Ireland don't work one does have to wonder where the money is coming from and who it's going to in Nigeria.

That was all ebay purchases!

cj maxx · 12-11-2019 4:36pm

Our politicians are doing a grand job

Feisar · 12-11-2019 4:57pm

Aldi's diverse couples crap. Randomly select a few couples, what's the chances of gay, lesbian and mixed race couples would pop up?

the beer revolu · 12-11-2019 5:09pm

Feisar wrote: »

Aldi's diverse couples crap. Randomly select a few couples, what's the chances of gay, lesbian and mixed race couples would pop up?

I will never understand why this bothers people.

SporadicMan · 12-11-2019 5:10pm

Dublin is rapidly becoming a ****hole with no identity outside of being 'edgy'.

It's filthy, there's **** graffiti everywhere, it's underpoliced and it's an absolute disgrace how expensive it is to live here for what you get.

I hate Dublin, as well as any 'it'll be grand' Irish person who seems perfectly happy to live in any ol' ****hole as long as they've got a 'It's not as bad as [ Country ]' to compare it to.

LineOfBeauty · 12-11-2019 5:20pm

SporadicMan wrote: »

Dublin is rapidly becoming a ****hole with no identity outside of being 'edgy'.

It's filthy, there's **** graffiti everywhere, it's underpoliced and it's an absolute disgrace how expensive it is to live here for what you get.

I hate Dublin, as well as any 'it'll be grand' Irish person who seems perfectly happy to live in any ol' ****hole as long as they've got a 'It's not as bad as [ Country ]' to compare it to.

Always wanted to live in Dublin when I was a kid. Doing it, loving it, loads of stuff to do, more opportunities, more friends, it's expensive sure and I take your point about gentrification but I do think it has kept it's own character and it's a great place to live.

Feisar · 12-11-2019 5:24pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

I will never understand why this bothers people.

It's the pandering that annoys me however I'm not loosing sleep over it.

12-11-2019 5:42pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

The vast, vast majority of the victims of ISIS were Muslims, yet we seem to think that Muslims are out to get us.

Well, I feel that their religion is incompatible with western culture. It's simply that those who are very religious would find our culture/social status to be at odds with their own beliefs as to how people should live. It's a religion that has shown in the last three decades, an alarming tendency to regress to the more hard-line beliefs which do view us as their enemy.

And just because the vast majority of those killed by ISIS were Muslims, doesn't mean that they wanted everlasting peace and prosperity with us.

Justin Credible Darts · 12-11-2019 5:52pm

Feisar wrote: »

Aldi's diverse couples crap. Randomly select a few couples, what's the chances of gay, lesbian and mixed race couples would pop up?

this stuff irritate me.

The fact is most people in this country are white
Most men are straight not gay
mixed race couples is not the norm

Yet look at even the rubbish on tv, remember the angelas at 6, if that is still going since I have not watched tv in about 4 months and they show all the token minorities, as if all these minorites were not minorities at all.

it seems the traditional white striaght couple is now the minority, such is the agenda.

Even the GAA adverts are trying to get in the token black people in , in an effort to basically scream, look at us, we are not racist....the same org that would not let brits play

When you have any group shoving a minority to the fore in an effort to tick some pc box, they are only showing what type of person they are and how image is more important to them.

LineOfBeauty · 12-11-2019 5:58pm

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

this stuff irritate me.

The fact is most people in this country are white
Most men are straight not gay
mixed race couples is not the norm

Yet look at even the rubbish on tv, remember the angelas at 6, if that is still going since I have not watched tv in about 4 months and they show all the token minorities, as if all these minorites were not minorities at all.

it seems the traditional white striaght couple is now the minority, such is the agenda.

Even the GAA adverts are trying to get in the token black people in , in an effort to basically scream, look at us, we are not racist....the same org that would not let brits play

When you have any group shoving a minority to the fore in an effort to tick some pc box, they are only showing what type of person they are and how image is more important to them.

The majority of couples in this country are white and straight.

The majority of ads aimed at couples in this country feature straight white couples.

Someone has picked up on an ad that doesn't fit the description of the majority. Not every couple in Ireland is straight and white. Not every ad has to be straight and white either. Without having researched it, I'd suspect that Aldi have run more ads with straight white couples in Ireland than without. The majority of ads in this country absolutely represents the likeness/sexual preferences of the majority, that doesn't mean once in a while a company can't throw those of us who don't fit that stereotype a bone.

It's only noticeable because most ads represent the majority.

blueshade · 12-11-2019 6:39pm

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

this stuff irritate me.

The fact is most people in this country are white
Most men are straight not gay
mixed race couples is not the norm

Yet look at even the rubbish on tv, remember the angelas at 6, if that is still going since I have not watched tv in about 4 months and they show all the token minorities, as if all these minorites were not minorities at all.

it seems the traditional white striaght couple is now the minority, such is the agenda.

Even the GAA adverts are trying to get in the token black people in , in an effort to basically scream, look at us, we are not racist....the same org that would not let brits play

When you have any group shoving a minority to the fore in an effort to tick some pc box, they are only showing what type of person they are and how image is more important to them.

I've never understood the appeal of Aldi, it's like the poor man's Lidl. I've been in twice and never bought anything. As for all the ''diversity'' it's just identity politics bs and it's starting to eat itself now. The lesbians are pissed that the gays get more airtime than they do. The lesbians are pissed that they are vilified for refusing to date men who claim to identify as women. The feminists are pissed that they are demonised for refusing to accept the push to give more rights to men who identify as women than to actual women. The gays are pissed at there being so many mixed race couples on TV when they claim that there are far more LGBTQ people in Britain than there are mixed race couples.

I haven't bought McCain oven chips since they got woke and tried to squeeze in just about every single possible demographic. I don't care about people's colour or religion or sexual orientation etc, I do care that it's rammed down my throat. Still, I think Tesco were the biggest offender last year when they tried to get people to believe the Muslim people in their Ad celebrated Christmas. Who cares? Nobody really, but if anything I think more and more people switch brands when an agenda is pushed rather than buy a product because it's woke. We don't buy Gillette and we don't buy McCain anymore.

Justin Credible Darts · 12-11-2019 8:03pm

blueshade wrote: »

I've never understood the appeal of Aldi, it's like the poor man's Lidl. I've been in twice and never bought anything. As for all the ''diversity'' it's just identity politics bs and it's starting to eat itself now. The lesbians are pissed that the gays get more airtime than they do. The lesbians are pissed that they are vilified for refusing to date men who claim to identify as women. The feminists are pissed that they are demonised for refusing to accept the push to give more rights to men who identify as women than to actual women. The gays are pissed at there being so many mixed race couples on TV when they claim that there are far more LGBTQ people in Britain than there are mixed race couples.

I haven't bought McCain oven chips since they got woke and tried to squeeze in just about every single possible demographic. I don't care about people's colour or religion or sexual orientation etc, I do care that it's rammed down my throat. Still, I think Tesco were the biggest offender last year when they tried to get people to believe the Muslim people in their Ad celebrated Christmas. Who cares? Nobody really, but if anything I think more and more people switch brands when an agenda is pushed rather than buy a product because it's woke. We don't buy Gillette and we don't buy McCain anymore.

I have not been in an aldi or lidl in over 6 years, or a tesco or dunnes for that matter, leave all that to the wife.
dont have a facebook account, instagram, nor a mobile phone, dont play computer games, and the tv is only turned on for netflix and nothing else.

I go online to check news, post on forums, and watch streams, but other than that most things would bore me so tend to avoid all things that I dont like.

Pity I can not block out most of the people I meet in real life as well

Tippsman · 12-11-2019 8:37pm

Illegal drugs are ok in moderation.

Paddy Cow · 12-11-2019 10:16pm

Tippsman wrote: »

Illegal drugs are ok in moderation.

I don't think that works for heroin.

Tony EH · 13-11-2019 12:31am

Paddy Cow wrote: »

I don't think that works for heroin.

It doesn't really work with any highly addictive substance. It's and idiotic point of view and the one that every addict takes on their way.

Feisar · 13-11-2019 1:03am

If someone takes something by the sword they have no right to be upset if the oppressed try to reclaim the taken by the sword.

13-11-2019 1:19am

Feisar wrote: »

If someone takes something by the sword they have no right to be upset if the oppressed try to reclaim the taken by the sword.

Is there a statute of limitations for that? Are we talking about the truly native natives to a territory, or pretty much everyone who is not the current controllers? Are the natives determined by their ethnicity, religion, or some other classification?

Tippsman · 13-11-2019 2:33am

Paddy Cow wrote: »

I don't think that works for heroin.

It would depends on the person.

Tony EH wrote: »

It doesn't really work with any highly addictive substance. It's and idiotic point of view and the one that every addict takes on their way.

Do you have personal experience with highly addictive substances?

In my unpopular opinion illegal drugs are ok in moderation.

Tony EH · 13-11-2019 3:01am

Tippsman wrote: »

In my unpopular opinion illegal drugs are ok in moderation.

What's your "opinion" based on?

NIMAN · 13-11-2019 3:04am

Tippsman wrote: »

Illegal drugs are ok in moderation.

Wrong.

All illegal drugs are funding criminal gangs.

NIMAN · 13-11-2019 3:05am

blueshade wrote: »

Senator Grealish has been accused of racism for querying where the 8 billion euro that's been sent from Ireland to Nigeria over the past 10 years has come from. I don't find that racist, I find it an extremely pertinent question, especially given that the issue was raised much further back than that but no answers were forthcoming. Given that the majority of Nigerians living in Ireland don't work one does have to wonder where the money is coming from and who it's going to in Nigeria.

I'd agree with you, but it was only Ruth Coppinger who accused him of being racist.

She is a populist, will say anything to get her name in the media and for people on social media to say "you're right Ruth".

What a dose.

Tacitus Kilgore · 13-11-2019 8:30am

NIMAN wrote: »

Wrong.

All illegal drugs are funding criminal gangs.

Wrong.

I grow mine, they don't fund anyone.

Mad_maxx · 13-11-2019 8:48am

Living a socially Conservative life is healthier and leaves you more content and happy

Feisar · 13-11-2019 9:42am

Deleted User wrote: »

Is there a statute of limitations for that? Are we talking about the truly native natives to a territory, or pretty much everyone who is not the current controllers? Are the natives determined by their ethnicity, religion, or some other classification?

Here I was basically saying brits and their poppy out!:pac::pac::pac:

13-11-2019 9:49am

NIMAN wrote: »

All illegal drugs are funding criminal gangs.

Naturally, which is why making them legal and regulated in a reasonable fashion would negate most of the income that criminal gangs receive. But it won't happen. Just as cigarettes have become a product to be sold illegally to avoid the excessive government taxes. The government will want their pound of flesh and that means that criminal gangs will continue to be funded.

Tippsman wrote: »

In my unpopular opinion illegal drugs are ok in moderation.

Depends on the drug. The simple fact is that most people are incapable of moderating their drug usage especially where addictive drugs are concerned. They go on binges. You see it all the time with Alcohol and that's a legal drug.

Whereas with cannabis, having a binge just whites you out, you puke or curl up somewhere and sleep. Perfect.

The point is that people binge on dangerous drugs and die. Personally, I say, let them. Remove some of the idiots from society. Take a step away from this nanny state situation.

13-11-2019 9:53am

Feisar wrote: »

Here I was basically saying brits and their poppy out!:pac::pac::pac:

Personally, I can't see why anyone from the Republic would want the North to rejoin the South. The North is a cesspit of negativity. If people really disliked the British so much, they should be encouraging them to stay in the North as it drags them down into the gutter, and financial ruin.

Another unpopular opinion, I guess.

Drumpot · 13-11-2019 9:56am

Deleted User wrote: »

Depends on the drug. The simple fact is that most people are incapable of moderating their drug usage especially where addictive drugs are concerned. They go on binges. You see it all the time with Alcohol and that's a legal drug.

Whereas with cannabis, having a binge just whites you out, you puke or curl up somewhere and sleep. Perfect.

The point is that people binge on dangerous drugs and die. Personally, I say, let them. Remove some of the idiots from society. Take a step away from this nanny state situation.

All drugs are potentially addictive, but my understanding with addiction is that generally a small percentage (10% in some studies) of people who use them will end up addicted. There was some very good studies done on soldiers coming home from war and the Americans thought there was going to be a heroin epidemic. Most soldiers gave it up when their environment changed.

Posts like this remind me how uninformed people are about drugs and addiction. In many regards people are addicted because of pain, emotional or physical pain and the world around them is not too empathetic or supportive to their troubles. Addicts aren't stupid either, many of them are very intelligent, the stupid comes from society that's too ignorant to bother amending how it treats them, usually at a much larger cost to addict and society.

BattleCorp · 13-11-2019 9:59am

NIMAN wrote: »

Wrong.

All illegal drugs are funding criminal gangs.

Supposing someone grows their own weed for their own personal consumption. How is that funding criminal gangs?

Feisar · 13-11-2019 10:05am

Deleted User wrote: »

Personally, I can't see why anyone from the Republic would want the North to rejoin the South. The North is a cesspit of negativity. If people really disliked the British so much, they should be encouraging them to stay in the North as it drags them down into the gutter, and financial ruin.

Another unpopular opinion, I guess.

Don't tell Francie but yea I'd be of the same opinion.

13-11-2019 10:07am

Drumpot wrote: »

All drugs are potentially addictive,

Everything is potentially addictive. :rolleyes:

but my understanding with addiction is that generally a small percentage (10% in some studies) of people who use them will end up addicted. There was some very good studies done on soldiers coming home from war and the Americans thought there was going to be a heroin epidemic. Most soldiers gave it up when their environment changed.

Yup. It's a generally accepted notion in habit changing.

Posts like this remind me how uninformed people are about drugs and addiction. In many regards people are addicted because of pain, emotional or physical pain and the world around them is not too empathetic or supportive to their troubles. Addicts aren't stupid either, many of them are very intelligent, the stupid comes from society that's too ignorant to bother amending how it treats them, usually at a much larger cost to addict and society.

Who is uninformed? You? Since you're suggesting that others are uninformed because they disagree with you, without any discussion to find out what they actually do know? :pac::pac::pac:

I don't particularly support this idea that everyone deserves consideration because it never ends. They become a drain on society because people expect greater degrees of support to help people who have no real interest in stopping being an addict. Most support systems are in place to maintain the addiction rather than remove it. In some cases, an addiction is linked to some condition which is permanent (pain treatment), and some measure of sympathy should be shown, but not to the extent of encouraging them to be a drain on society.

blueshade · 13-11-2019 10:25am

Feisar wrote: »

Here I was basically saying brits and their poppy out!:pac::pac::pac:

Is one bigoted forum on that subject not enough for you? You've been banging on with the anti Brit crap on a separate thread, park it there. We can ignore the 800 years headbangers by ignoring that thread.

blueshade · 13-11-2019 10:28am

Deleted User wrote: »

Personally, I can't see why anyone from the Republic would want the North to rejoin the South. The North is a cesspit of negativity. If people really disliked the British so much, they should be encouraging them to stay in the North as it drags them down into the gutter, and financial ruin.

Another unpopular opinion, I guess.

Exactly. The North has nothing to offer us except the cost of funding all their Social welfare, health, housing and educational expenses. If Britain turned around tomorrow and said here you go, it's all yours, we don't want it anymore then Ireland would be fooked. Ask a person in the Republic then if they want to pay all that extra money and there'd be a second revolution to prevent it.

Feisar · 13-11-2019 10:35am

blueshade wrote: »

Is one bigoted forum on that subject not enough for you? You've been banging on with the anti Brit crap on a separate thread, park it there. We can ignore the 800 years headbangers by ignoring that thread.

Unpopular opinion is... unpopular!!!

Midster · 13-11-2019 11:10am

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Wrong.

I grow mine, they don't fund anyone.

Hey snap!! Home grown these days is just so much better than you’d buy from any dealer, It’s easy to do, and plus, the street prices these days are LUDICROUS

Tacitus Kilgore · 13-11-2019 11:40am

Midster wrote: »

Hey snap!! Home grown these days is just so much better than you’d buy from any dealer, It’s easy to do, and plus, the street prices these days are LUDICROUS

Ah i dunno about that, i'm shite at it and most of it turns out fairly crap, but it's mine so I don't care.

Just got sick of paying €15/g to scummers for dirt.

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