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Ground Anchor

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  • 19-07-2014 9:42am
    #1
    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭


    Any recomondations? The front garden is tarmaced over stone. Was thinking of getting some crane chain too.
    I was thinking of getting a consaw to cut through the tarmac, then dig a hole and loop the chain into it leaving a noose exposed before pouring concrete into it.

    What could possibly go wrong? :D

    There has to be a simpler solution, really don't want to make shít of the tarmac


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    #2
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users Posts: 13,982 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Any solid brick walls? It doesn't have to actually go in the ground.


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    #3
    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Bolt an anchor onto the wall? Great idea, waay less messy ;), think I'll go for that one, any good anchors that'd suit?


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    GBX
    Registered Users Posts: 11,931 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    http://www.morrisonbhp.net/apps/webstore/products/show/1405489

    Good value one here. I've bought from Ian before .. good to deal with .


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    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I got this one from Hardie Secure - http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/Anchors-and-Locks/Hardie-Ground-Anchor/p-71-133/

    Fitting:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGhSES3XOc0


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    Idleater
    Registered Users Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    I have an unfitted hardie secure anchor for sale if you like?


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    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    Skill Magill wrote: »
    Bolt an anchor onto the wall? Great idea, waay less messy ;), think I'll go for that one, any good anchors that'd suit?

    Most will recommend you bolt the anchor to the wall as its harder to cut chain which is not lying on the ground.

    Unfortunately that option wasn't open to me so mine is on the concrete drive but my preference would have been the wall.


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    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Idleater, would an almax chain go through it, and if yes, do you have the drill bit that goes with it? Oh and how much do you want for it?


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    Cienciano
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    What's the story with the crane chain? Do they sell to the public and how much for a 2m length? Almax aren't great for responding to emails


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    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Looks like they do 85 + 23% tax - about €105, theyre in cookstown in tallaght
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    Almax chains are thicker though


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    Idleater
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    Skill Magill wrote: »
    Idleater, would an almax chain go through it, and if yes, do you have the drill bit that goes with it? Oh and how much do you want for it?

    I can root it out tomorrow, I bought it along with the series 4 almax, but used an esb post as a ground anchor instead.
    Would €50 be reasonable?
    If anyone needs 1m series 4 almax chain, I can sell that too.


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    goodlad
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    Skill Magill wrote: »
    Idleater, would an almax chain go through it, and if yes, do you have the drill bit that goes with it? Oh and how much do you want for it?

    I have the same anchor installed and still have the drill bit for it. Size 16 I think.

    If you get the anchor and he doesn't have the drill bit let me know.


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    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Idleater Yea 50's fine, I'll pm you. Oh and cheers for the offer goodlad, not sure whether or not he has it


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    Wonda-Boy
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    Ideal how much for the chain? 1st refusal plz.


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    nightster1
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    https://www.kryptonitelock.com/Pages/ProductInformation.aspx?PNumber=330202

    This looks good....


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    #16
    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    ^^^
    Doubt you'd get an almax chain through it


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    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Goodlad is right it's a size 16 -but try to use the drill bit they give you and not a generic... I had problems fitting mine -first time the M12 expanding bolt went in but didnt catch and would not expand. Did it again, used a different drill bit, made the hole a bit too big and it nearly didnt catch - but it did in the end.

    However my as3hole management company complained and I had to take it out. Thankfully I've now found a new place in a corner, so plan to put it back in, to the wall this time.

    Many drills wont take a 16mm drill bit - and the SDS one I tried had a different dead on it so would not work..

    Once it's in it works well though


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    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Zascar, I thought these yokes were unmovable? Had you it fully installed? Or did you make a bollíx of it :D
    Ive got a normal household drill, would I need something more substantial? Thanks for the advice man


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    goodlad
    Registered Users Posts: 3,222 ✭✭✭goodlad


    Skill Magill wrote: »
    Zascar, I thought these yokes were unmovable? Had you it fully installed? Or did you make a bollíx of it :D
    Ive got a normal household drill, would I need something more substantial? Thanks for the advice man

    I used a normal drill for the anchor out my back just fine.

    But when installing the anchor out front with the same drill an same drill bit it hadn't a hope of working! I borrowed an sds drill from a neighbor and that went through the concrete like a hot knife through butter.


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    #20
    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Whats an sds drill?


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    #21
    goodlad
    Registered Users Posts: 3,222 ✭✭✭goodlad


    Skill Magill wrote: »
    Whats an sds drill?



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    #22
    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Still dont know what it is, but I need one of these badly, I'd be drillin the shít out of the house. You want speakers mounted to your wall, let me get the sds out!! I'm throwing out my drills, you've put me wide to something I never knew I needed and now cant live without ! :D
    Must resist temptation


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    Zascar
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    Skill Magill wrote: »
    Zascar, I thought these yokes were unmovable? Had you it fully installed? Or did you make a bollíx of it :D
    Ive got a normal household drill, would I need something more substantial? Thanks for the advice man

    Thankfully No I didn't hammer the cap on - so I was able to remove it fairly easy. I had a feeling there might be a problem so I left it off so I was able to get at the nut - thank fook - as I would have been in serious trouble if not!


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    #24
    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    I was thinking that alright :) why didn't you hammer the cap on by the way? Sort of sounds like you'd already drilled in the apartment complex and then thought you'd better ask for approval from the management company, and they said no!
    Could be wrong though :)


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    Cienciano
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    Skill Magill wrote: »
    Looks like they do 85 + 23% tax - about €105, theyre in cookstown in tallaght
    4K662NIl.png

    Almax chains are thicker though

    I wonder if they sell chain without the shít stuck to either end?


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    Wonda-Boy
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    nightster1 wrote: »
    https://www.kryptonitelock.com/Pages/ProductInformation.aspx?PNumber=330202

    This looks good....

    Nay the U bolt that stanless steel is just like a chain link wouldnt put to much faith in that TBH.


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    #27
    Wonda-Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    I got a very good Parkland SDS drill in Aldi not too long ago for buttons cheap. And I have used it to drill holes into concrete more then 8" down. But try to get a hammer action on it if you can.....Skill if you stuck you can borrow my drill no probs I have a couple of sds drill bits also.


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    #28
    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    It says without shorteners, which I presume those yellow yokes are. I'll give en a em on Monday see what the score is. They also do 16mm chain for a fraction of the cost, the website isn't ultra clear on the difference.


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    #29
    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Cheers Wonda, I'm gonna see how this plays out first, not sure whether your offer will stand after tomorrows match haha


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    Wonda-Boy
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    Skill Magill wrote: »
    Cheers Wonda, I'm gonna see how this plays out first, not sure whether your offer will stand after tomorrows match haha

    Ahh its all good. Its a win win for me.....but I hope the Dubs sneak it. ;)


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    #31
    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    So I noticed Zascar had created a thread in the gardening section!!
     which was very much related to my thread here. Anyways, here's how I learned how to drill a hole through a wall :)


    Its in, and it aint coming out!!

    My tools :
    1. SDS Drill - McQuillans Caple st €100
    2. 20mm SDS drillbit Chadwicks Thomas Street €10
    3. A fair few ruined m12s
    4. The one that worked was from all metal fastners in Finglas, which had to have the normal bolt swapped out for a allen key head bolt.
    5. 50 cent to superglue over the allen key bolt, cause it came up to high and couldnt smack the provided cap down over it.

    Now I just have to get some crane chain, to keep the bike a bit away from the front wall, stop passers bye havin a nosey.

    It may seem a tad on the expensive side, just to drill a hole, but it was never going to get the better of me :D and now I have some kick ass tools!



    IMrX95Zl.jpg

    Zascar, if you want me to get you the same m12 and lend you the few bits and pieces you're more than welcome


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