Ground Anchor

Skill Magill

Any recomondations? The front garden is tarmaced over stone. Was thinking of getting some crane chain too.
I was thinking of getting a consaw to cut through the tarmac, then dig a hole and loop the chain into it leaving a noose exposed before pouring concrete into it.

What could possibly go wrong?

There has to be a simpler solution, really don't want to make shít of the tarmac

Cuddlesworth

Any solid brick walls? It doesn't have to actually go in the ground.

Skill Magill

Bolt an anchor onto the wall? Great idea, waay less messy , think I'll go for that one, any good anchors that'd suit?

GBX

http://www.morrisonbhp.net/apps/webstore/products/show/1405489

Good value one here. I've bought from Ian before .. good to deal with .

Zascar

I got this one from Hardie Secure - http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/Anchors-and-Locks/Hardie-Ground-Anchor/p-71-133/

Fitting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGhSES3XOc0

Idleater

I have an unfitted hardie secure anchor for sale if you like?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Skill Magill wrote: »

Bolt an anchor onto the wall? Great idea, waay less messy , think I'll go for that one, any good anchors that'd suit?

Most will recommend you bolt the anchor to the wall as its harder to cut chain which is not lying on the ground.

Unfortunately that option wasn't open to me so mine is on the concrete drive but my preference would have been the wall.

Skill Magill

Idleater, would an almax chain go through it, and if yes, do you have the drill bit that goes with it? Oh and how much do you want for it?

Cienciano

What's the story with the crane chain? Do they sell to the public and how much for a 2m length? Almax aren't great for responding to emails

Skill Magill

Looks like they do 85 + 23% tax - about €105, theyre in cookstown in tallaght


Almax chains are thicker though

Idleater

Skill Magill wrote: »

Idleater, would an almax chain go through it, and if yes, do you have the drill bit that goes with it? Oh and how much do you want for it?

I can root it out tomorrow, I bought it along with the series 4 almax, but used an esb post as a ground anchor instead.
Would €50 be reasonable?
If anyone needs 1m series 4 almax chain, I can sell that too.

goodlad

Skill Magill wrote: »

Idleater, would an almax chain go through it, and if yes, do you have the drill bit that goes with it? Oh and how much do you want for it?

I have the same anchor installed and still have the drill bit for it. Size 16 I think.

If you get the anchor and he doesn't have the drill bit let me know.

Skill Magill

Idleater Yea 50's fine, I'll pm you. Oh and cheers for the offer goodlad, not sure whether or not he has it

Wonda-Boy

Ideal how much for the chain? 1st refusal plz.

nightster1

https://www.kryptonitelock.com/Pages/ProductInformation.aspx?PNumber=330202

This looks good....

Skill Magill

^^^
Doubt you'd get an almax chain through it

Zascar

Goodlad is right it's a size 16 -but try to use the drill bit they give you and not a generic... I had problems fitting mine -first time the M12 expanding bolt went in but didnt catch and would not expand. Did it again, used a different drill bit, made the hole a bit too big and it nearly didnt catch - but it did in the end.

However my as3hole management company complained and I had to take it out. Thankfully I've now found a new place in a corner, so plan to put it back in, to the wall this time.

Many drills wont take a 16mm drill bit - and the SDS one I tried had a different dead on it so would not work..

Once it's in it works well though

Skill Magill

Zascar, I thought these yokes were unmovable? Had you it fully installed? Or did you make a bollíx of it
Ive got a normal household drill, would I need something more substantial? Thanks for the advice man

goodlad

Skill Magill wrote: »

Zascar, I thought these yokes were unmovable? Had you it fully installed? Or did you make a bollíx of it
Ive got a normal household drill, would I need something more substantial? Thanks for the advice man

I used a normal drill for the anchor out my back just fine.

But when installing the anchor out front with the same drill an same drill bit it hadn't a hope of working! I borrowed an sds drill from a neighbor and that went through the concrete like a hot knife through butter.

Skill Magill

Whats an sds drill?

goodlad

Skill Magill wrote: »

Whats an sds drill?

Skill Magill

Still dont know what it is, but I need one of these badly, I'd be drillin the shít out of the house. You want speakers mounted to your wall, let me get the sds out!! I'm throwing out my drills, you've put me wide to something I never knew I needed and now cant live without !
Must resist temptation

Zascar

Skill Magill wrote: »

Zascar, I thought these yokes were unmovable? Had you it fully installed? Or did you make a bollíx of it
Ive got a normal household drill, would I need something more substantial? Thanks for the advice man

Thankfully No I didn't hammer the cap on - so I was able to remove it fairly easy. I had a feeling there might be a problem so I left it off so I was able to get at the nut - thank fook - as I would have been in serious trouble if not!

Skill Magill

I was thinking that alright why didn't you hammer the cap on by the way? Sort of sounds like you'd already drilled in the apartment complex and then thought you'd better ask for approval from the management company, and they said no!
Could be wrong though

Cienciano

Skill Magill wrote: »

Looks like they do 85 + 23% tax - about €105, theyre in cookstown in tallaght


Almax chains are thicker though

I wonder if they sell chain without the shít stuck to either end?

Wonda-Boy

nightster1 wrote: »

https://www.kryptonitelock.com/Pages/ProductInformation.aspx?PNumber=330202

This looks good....

Nay the U bolt that stanless steel is just like a chain link wouldnt put to much faith in that TBH.

Wonda-Boy

I got a very good Parkland SDS drill in Aldi not too long ago for buttons cheap. And I have used it to drill holes into concrete more then 8" down. But try to get a hammer action on it if you can.....Skill if you stuck you can borrow my drill no probs I have a couple of sds drill bits also.

Skill Magill

It says without shorteners, which I presume those yellow yokes are. I'll give en a em on Monday see what the score is. They also do 16mm chain for a fraction of the cost, the website isn't ultra clear on the difference.

Skill Magill

Cheers Wonda, I'm gonna see how this plays out first, not sure whether your offer will stand after tomorrows match haha

Wonda-Boy

Skill Magill wrote: »

Cheers Wonda, I'm gonna see how this plays out first, not sure whether your offer will stand after tomorrows match haha

Ahh its all good. Its a win win for me.....but I hope the Dubs sneak it.

Skill Magill

So I noticed Zascar had created a thread in the gardening section!!
which was very much related to my thread here. Anyways, here's how I learned how to drill a hole through a wall


Its in, and it aint coming out!!

My tools :

1. SDS Drill - McQuillans Caple st €100
2. 20mm SDS drillbit Chadwicks Thomas Street €10
3. A fair few ruined m12s
4. The one that worked was from all metal fastners in Finglas, which had to have the normal bolt swapped out for a allen key head bolt.
5. 50 cent to superglue over the allen key bolt, cause it came up to high and couldnt smack the provided cap down over it.

Now I just have to get some crane chain, to keep the bike a bit away from the front wall, stop passers bye havin a nosey.

It may seem a tad on the expensive side, just to drill a hole, but it was never going to get the better of me and now I have some kick ass tools!

Zascar, if you want me to get you the same m12 and lend you the few bits and pieces you're more than welcome

Richard tea

Very Nice Skill. Cant believe the company ship the anchor with the wrong drill bit:mad:

If I ever have a bike worth robbing ill get the same

Skill Magill

Not so sure that the wrong bit was supplied, possibly you need an sds drill with a girth of 20mm to install it though.
!

Green_Martian

Nice work, did you check the other side of the wall to check it didn't go through:P:P:P

Zascar

I got mine in tonight also

Skill Magill

Zascar wrote: »

I got mine in tonight also

What about the anchor?

Skill Magill

Did the cap not go on for you?

Zascar

I have not put it on yet. Going to wait a few weeks just in case my management company kick off again. If I hammer the cap on and they want me to take it out, I'm in trouble..

Skill Magill

Whats to stop someone just unwinding it with an allen key? Or once the bolt has been expanded, is that it, stuck forever?

Wonda-Boy

Zascar if you can put the chain through the back wheel not the front....much more secure.

nerrad1983

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Zascar if you can put the chain through the back wheel not the front....much more secure.

I was thinking the same myself, ideally it should be going through the swing arm and stick a disk lock or something on the front wheel

The more deterants you have the better Colly.

The front wheel is very easily removed mate

Cienciano

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Zascar if you can put the chain through the back wheel not the front....much more secure.

Yeah, I always go through the back wheel now. Takes an extra 5 seconds to push the bike in. Throw a disc lock on the front too.

Sir Arthur Daley

Just a quick question on this ground anchor, from what i can see its just secured to the wall via one bolt. have the right size socket and easily remove it or does it come with some other secure cover that covers the bolt?

Zascar

Yes there is a cap that you hammer on to cover the bolt, and when you do - it's not coming off again. I just left mine off in case my fkn management company complain again, but I'll put it on soon. Yes might start pushing the bike in backwards. The thing with any of these things though it it's only ever a deterrent.

I have two of these with a chain around each wheel. Not the best anchor you can get obviously based on price, but still decent enough. Secured to the ground/wall with two M10 expanding bolts, which are provided with ball bearings to hammer into hex head to make them tamper proof. I also have the bike behind a locked side door.

Not bad at £13 each. Or you can get them in Woodies for €40!!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sterling-GA1-Locks-Ground-Anchor/dp/B001LQ53WW

arybvtcw0eolkf

Deleted User wrote: »

I have two of these with a chain around each wheel. Not the best anchor you can get obviously based on price, but still decent enough. Secured to the ground/wall with two M10 expanding bolts, which are provided with ball bearings to hammer into hex head to make them tamper proof. I also have the bike behind a locked side door.

Not bad at £13 each. Or you can get them in Woodies for €40!!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sterling-GA1-Locks-Ground-Anchor/dp/B001LQ53WW

I use more or less the same one, bought it on ebay for a few quid ~ cheap as chips. But I also use a disc lock and a U lock, plus I've two cars blocking my gates so I'm feeling pretty secure.

Skill Magill

This is my finished deal, crane chain' n 'all

Skill Magill

The_Chap

Looks good, but I reckon a pair of bolt croppers would snap that chain off in about 20s
Get an Almax chain and get it off the ground

Zascar

I was going to say - the locks don't seem that great. When Iw as buying mine the guy said those types are easily broken. Best to get one like this - they are harder to cut. Then again, you have 3 locks, most thieves will just say fuk it I'll rob something easier. All of this is just preventative measures anyway.

Skill Magill

Not sure about that man, its crane chain that can lift up 12.6 tonne. Heavy as Fúck, already have an almax chain going through the frame and rear wheel secured by the squire lock. The chaps (haha) in the crane shop reckon its bolt cutter proof.


Z, theres another lock on the front

Z, the crane chain doesn't loop into each link like one you've shown, it needs to be attached side by side.

Z both of those locks are Kryptonite, the dear ones