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Pubs when/will they re-open - the Megathread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Yup as much as everyone says they don't mind when they reopen we all know people will go back and they'll be busy

    The nostalgia alone with drive people in there but I think long term pubs need to change their M.O, no longer can they have toilets that are not maintained to a high standard and they should be much cleaner places. The likes of nightclubs might take longer to get up and running. It’ll be a weird feeling when a bar starts to get packed. A lot at the start will just leave I guess. Pubs were strugglin before all this, won’t be surprised to see a lot go under in each city across the land.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    The nostalgia alone with drive people in there but I think long term pubs need to change their M.O, no longer can they have toilets that are not maintained to a high standard and they should be much cleaner places. The likes of nightclubs might take longer to get up and running. It’ll be a weird feeling when a bar starts to get packed. A lot at the start will just leave I guess. Pubs were strugglin before all this, won’t be surprised to see a lot go under in each city across the land.

    Some will go under yes, if they were struggling before they'll be in distress now, plenty will recover too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭double jobbing


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mcdowell-majority-in-favour-of-cafe-bars-206710.html

    We all laughed and scoffed at McDowell and his ideas for us to adopt pavement table service, no more than two bottles of Italian beer with our French toast. For us pubs were stools, pints, football and crisps.

    Seeing exactly these bars re open for outdoor service on the continent we might well regret our hostility now :pac:


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pubs open like that aren’t pubs at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭redarmy


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    The Goat Grill and Bar in Goatstown,Dublin opened it’s beer garden serving drinks till the early hours of this http://morning.At one point #Garda arrived but were happy with the 2metre #SocialDistanacing and let it continue..What does this mean.Are pubs know allowed to open


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    redarmy wrote: »
    Padraig O'Reilly Photographer
    @padraig_reilly
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    10m
    The Goat Grill and Bar in Goatstown,Dublin opened it’s beer garden serving drinks till the early hours of this http://morning.At one point #Garda arrived but were happy with the 2metre #SocialDistanacing and let it continue..What does this mean.Are pubs know allowed to open

    Seriously bad message if they did let it go.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Was it not a beer van? A mobile beer van, that’s what I saw. Not their beer garden. It happened to be within 100metres of the pub.

    Hayden’s bar in Naas had their van out tonight driving round estate - pulling pints out of the back of it for people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,279 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Munroes in Galway are doing the same thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,926 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Things slowly unraveling and publicans not taking it anymore

    Very festival feel with takeaway pints


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    Seriously bad message if they did let it go.

    Im in the trade and totally agree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭showpony1


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Things slowly unraveling and publicans not taking it anymore

    Very festival feel with takeaway pints


    its cloudy and raining this weekend according to forecast so i don't think they'll all do as much business as last 2 weekends.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Sheep_shear


    Question about all the takeaway pints. I'm guessing line cleaning hasn't been going on, so... you might be having some interesting tasting ones if got from a pub? Or am I missing something


  • Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭md323


    Question about all the takeaway pints. I'm guessing line cleaning hasn't been going on, so... you might be having some interesting tasting ones if got from a pub? Or am I missing something

    They can clean them , its not hard to do.

    Although, the breweries havent been brewing the last couple of months, no deliveries been taking place so the beer being dispensed could be out of date or very nearly out of date.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Sheep_shear


    md323 wrote: »
    They can clean them , its not hard to do

    Then why do Guinness have their cleaning teams if Tom the Barman can do it?


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Then why do Guinness have their cleaning teams if Tom the Barman can do it?

    Guinness probably make the pubs use the cleaning teams normally. They can get pubs to basically do whatever they like.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    Question about all the takeaway pints. I'm guessing line cleaning hasn't been going on, so... you might be having some interesting tasting ones if got from a pub? Or am I missing something

    It’s all for their Instagram story that they get out of it


  • Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭md323


    Then why do Guinness have their cleaning teams if Tom the Barman can do it?

    I run a pub, we clean our lines every 10 days or so, guinness/Heineken only come every six weeks to clean them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭jt69er


    md323 wrote:
    I run a pub, we clean our lines every 10 days or so, guinness/Heineken only come every six weeks to clean them.


    If you don't mind me asking why do you feel the need to clean every 10 days? What draught system do you have?


  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭jt69er


    Guinness probably make the pubs use the cleaning teams normally. They can get pubs to basically do whatever they like.

    All Breweries clean their own lines, not just Guinness. Guinness have way less influence over pubs than they used to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,926 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Id buy a takeaway pint if say i could sit in/near there beer garden or any big green. I refuse to order them to my house as its too expensive and youre better off buying cans/bottles

    Does the public drinking rule even exist anymore ?? Mostly always see people drinking in public


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Does the public drinking rule even exist anymore ?? Mostly always see people drinking in public

    There's no law, only bye-laws particular to certain areas, iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭Bob Z


    when the pubs that serve reopen do you have buy food? or are they just opening as more as restaurants ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Good question. Surprised that hasn't been asked already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    €9 of food needs to be bought


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    Wonder what will happen with Hotel bars? We've a week booked in Kerry and are hoping we can get pints delivered to the room as roomservice? We will be eating in the hotel bar/restaurant but wonder will they be strict with the 90 minute window for hotel guests also?

    Interesting one so it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭Bob Z


    going slightly off topic but is there a distinction in law between a restaurant/pub and a pub and a restaurant ? is there separate laws? are they seen as closer to pubs or a restaurant ?


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you only buy €8.99 worth of food you’re as good as dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭Bob Z


    will pubs reopen in july or just wait to august ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭seamusk84


    20th July for bars.

    You serious with these questions? Then again I am desperate for a pint of Guinness in my local...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭Bob Z


    seamusk84 wrote: »
    20th July for bars.

    You serious with these questions? Then again I am desperate for a pint of Guinness in my local...
    its august for bars. july for bars that serve food

    im just wondering what it will be like when some of the pubs open early to serve food. it sounds like a lot of hassle


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Bob Z wrote: »
    its august for bars. july for bars that serve food

    im just wondering what it will be like when some of the pubs open early to serve food. it sounds like a lot of hassle

    No its not. All bars without food can open 20th July. 29th june for those operating as restaurants.

    There's already threads on this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭Bob Z


    No its not. All bars without food can open 20th July. 29th june for those operating as restaurants.

    There's already threads on this

    right im not sure where i got august from. maybe it was a mooted date?


    thats still a wait of nearly a month


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,507 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Bob Z wrote: »
    right im not sure where i got august from. maybe it was a mooted date?


    thats still a wait of nearly a month


    It was August originally but they brought the last stage forward in to July.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    I do wonder about hotel bars now though. I've 2 nights away for the first weekend in July and of course we'll be out for dinner and we'll have a few drknks with dinner but I wonder seeing as we're staying in a hotel will the bar be open to residents or if we can get something to the rolm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    I do wonder about hotel bars now though. I've 2 nights away for the first weekend in July and of course we'll be out for dinner and we'll have a few drknks with dinner but I wonder seeing as we're staying in a hotel will the bar be open to residents or if we can get something to the rolm

    The original plan had hotel bars not opening, so presumably that will still be the case until July 20. But most hotel bars also serve food, so maybe now they will be open?

    One would expect there to be some common sense so room service would be a given - or just buy a bottle of wine for the room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,165 ✭✭✭893bet


    In a hotel room.

    Getting pints delivered which are normally ****e in a hotel but now will be extra ****e from the delivery service.

    Rather be at home.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,614 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Threads merged


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭Redo91


    Saw NPHET mention that nightclubs wouldn’t open until the 10th July at the earliest. Would have thought pubs would open before nightclubs.

    Have already said it on another thread but think the distinction between pubs serving food and those serving drink once table service is daft. In any event I don’t see pubs being strict on implanting the €9 meal. Can see them maybe allowing groups to just spend that between them.

    Wonder is there any possibility that the 20th July will be brought forward?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,040 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    So you can go pay a game of football next week, full contact and sweat on other people but you can't sit beside someone in a pub. Makes sense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭Bob Z


    Redo91 wrote: »
    Saw NPHET mention that nightclubs wouldn’t open until the 10th July at the earliest. Would have thought pubs would open before nightclubs.

    Have already said it on another thread but think the distinction between pubs serving food and those serving drink once table service is daft. In any event I don’t see pubs being strict on implanting the €9 meal. Can see them maybe allowing groups to just spend that between them.

    Wonder is there any possibility that the 20th July will be brought forward?

    before cv19 happened was there any distinction ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭seamusk84


    OK so we all know it's 20th July for bars (without the mandatory €9 food).

    But I have heard some rumors that it might be brought forward to 6th July due to the way the numbers have gone and in an attempt to speed up job retention etc etc.....That would be sweeeet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Redo91 wrote: »
    Saw NPHET mention that nightclubs wouldn’t open until the 10th July at the earliest. Would have thought pubs would open before nightclubs.

    Have already said it on another thread but think the distinction between pubs serving food and those serving drink once table service is daft. In any event I don’t see pubs being strict on implanting the €9 meal. Can see them maybe allowing groups to just spend that between them.

    Wonder is there any possibility that the 20th July will be brought forward?

    I do as pubs want to claw back as much money as possible and the threat of lynching someone out for not forking out for €9 will make ppl buy the food, the pub benefits in both ways. For me it’s the whole 90mins or 105mins whatever it is, does each table get a clock on it and will “The Locals” be given priority and extended to stay? That side I can see being an absolute nightmare for pubs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1277002527679156225


    Texas Governor admits he re-opened bars too soon




    "Shure it'll be grand"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,383 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    The Nal wrote: »
    So you can go pay a game of football next week, full contact and sweat on other people but you can't sit beside someone in a pub. Makes sense.

    One indoors. One outdoors. And the length of time you are in relatively close contact with someone indoors doesn't compare to playing a football match outdoors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1277002527679156225


    Texas Governor admits he re-opened bars too soon




    "Shure it'll be grand"

    Tbh, I think most people here have a bit more cop on about the whole thing. You are relying on public compliance to the measures in place to not see spikes.

    The USA is currently very fractured for a multitude of reasons.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Tbh, I think most people here have a bit more cop on about the whole thing. You are relying on public compliance to the measures in place to not see spikes.

    The USA is currently very fractured for a multitude of reasons.

    Let's not forget in the USA, some states, texas included opened up when they still hadn't got a handle on the first surge, the clown in the white house wanted everyone to open up back in April.

    Its like comparing apples and organges here. We have cases at a very low level when we look to reopen restaurants and bars, the states had nowhere near any sort of handle on it when they went full speed reopening


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Tbh, I think most people here have a bit more cop on about the whole thing.


    Did you just mention the phrase "a bit more cop on" when it comes to the Irish and drinking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Did you just mention the phrase "a bit more cop on" when it comes to the Irish and drinking?

    No I think the poster meant cop on regarding social distancing etc. A lot of the state's where there's been a resurgence there seems to be mass ignorance l. Hence their surges.


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭seamusk84


    The day has finally come!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,011 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    Just because you are allowed to do something doesn't mean you have to. I'm going to wait and see how this pans out before I venture out for a pint. I agree that they need to open up, but I'm worried about customer behaviour.


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