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10 Player Secret Role

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    #542
    Green&Red
    Registered Users Posts: 11,387 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    My take, Im up early in case I die.

    Fixxxer, if he had a once off good witch poison/cure role why . Claimed straight off use it so early and cure so quickly

    QB Claimed almost straight off they had the role, AFAIK never said good/bad or what, just the power, why and why did Fixxer ask if they had poisoned GnR?

    GnR Claim to fame lynched BH

    I'll continue on another post in case i die while compiling

    Fixxer can ask this himself but my read is he was shaking trees, he knew it was bogus


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    #543
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Everyone is assuming the power is for good and while it might be it might also be/have been in the control of a WW.

    What better way to gain credibility than poison and cure either a villager or a WW? Wouldn't matter which!


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    #544
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Green&Red wrote: »
    Fixxer can ask this himself but my read is he was shaking trees, he knew it was bogus

    I also suspected him as the real roled player when he asked it too.


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    #545
    Clarabel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Everyone is assuming the power is for good and while it might be it might also be/have been in the control of a WW.

    What better way to gain credibility than poison and cure either a villager or a WW? Wouldn't matter which!

    But realistically we've not had any counter claims and I really feel we are not going to.

    That role, I think that was it. It feels right.


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    #546
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    TBH, yeah, I had always assumed that it would be a good role.

    If the secret role was given to a wolf, then that changes everything.


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    #547
    Clarabel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    quickbeam wrote: »
    I also suspected him as the real roled player when he asked it too.

    I said as much yesterday too when I reasked Fixxxer the question. The point remains that he has been asked 4 times and not answered.


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    #548
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    It would also mean that there would be no counter claims.


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    #549
    MrKingsley
    Registered Users Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭MrKingsley


    I said this on Day 1 when we were discussing how many wolves were in play.

    I thought that if it was 2 wolves then one would have the role.

    If 3 then surely it would give them too much of an advantage in such a small game.

    Could have been that BH had the role and we are only looking for 1 more?


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    #550
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Why would QB fire off a claim that could be so easily refuted if it's an obvious lie why would fixxer not poison the liar instead of a potential villager.


    Before am claim

    Fixxer, QB and still not losing sight of GnR


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    #551
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Why would QB fire off a claim that could be so easily refuted if it's an obvious lie why would fixxer not poison the liar instead of a potential villager.


    Before am claim

    Fixxer, QB and still not losing sight of GnR

    Thrown off laptop so formatting now via mobile

    Above should read before 10am claim


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    #552
    MrKingsley
    Registered Users Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭MrKingsley


    Did Fixxxer ever say when he gave GnR the poison? As in was it before or after QBs claim?


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    #553
    Green&Red
    Registered Users Posts: 11,387 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Everyone is assuming the power is for good and while it might be it might also be/have been in the control of a WW.

    What better way to gain credibility than poison and cure either a villager or a WW? Wouldn't matter which!

    So now you're saying a wolf would poison a wolf?


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    #554
    Green&Red
    Registered Users Posts: 11,387 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    MrKingsley wrote: »
    Did Fixxxer ever say when he gave GnR the poison? As in was it before or after QBs claim?

    QBs claim was early, Fixxer said it was before the first lynch, so after QBs claim


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    #555
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Someone give me a valid logical reason for claiming a power ( QB ) that they don't have, except to cloud the issue completely, too obvious making yourself a munch target to save a role player when you don't know what power or if good/evil, too early IMO to be effectively believed by any WWs


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    #556
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Green&Red wrote: »
    So now you're saying a wolf would poison a wolf?

    If they had cure as well, why not? Bloody good smokescreen IMO


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    #557
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Green&Red wrote: »
    So now you're saying a wolf would poison a wolf?

    *If* the wolves had the power then it could be anything at all and the whole poison/cure thing could be just made up.

    I'm not really buying it, tbh.


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    #558
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Someone give me a valid logical reason for claiming a power ( QB ) that they don't have, except to cloud the issue completely, too obvious making yourself a munch target to save a role player when you don't know what power or if good/evil, too early IMO to be effectively believed by any WWs

    As mentioned, I had always assumed it was a good role, so yeah, to protect the one with the real (good) role.


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    #559
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    quickbeam wrote: »
    *If* the wolves had the power then it could be anything at all and the whole poison/cure thing could be just made up.

    I'm not really buying it, tbh.

    Question on game dynamics

    Are wolves allowed to comm off thread, didn't think they were, which would be needed if anything other than real poison/cure role surely


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    #560
    Green&Red
    Registered Users Posts: 11,387 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    If the role is evil I think we can assume there are only 2 wolves.
    The scenarios are below and both run out to three mislynches so it would make no odds, although I still think a wolf would take the kill when he had the chance, especially since he had it on someone who'd lynched a wolf

    Fixxxer definitely cured me, 100% without doubt, whether he is good or evil that much is fact

    Scenario 1
    lynch 1 - successful - 8-1
    Player poisoned
    munch 1 7-1
    Player cured
    mislynch 1 - 6-1
    munch - 5-1
    mislynch 2 - 4-1
    munch - 3-1
    mislynch 3 - 2-1

    Scenario 1
    lynch 1 - successful - 8-1
    Player poisoned
    munch 1 7-1
    Player dies - 6-1
    mislynch 1 - 5-1
    munch - 4-1
    mislynch 2 - 3-1
    munch - 2-1
    mislynch 3 - 1-1


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    #561
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Yeah, wolves will have a back room to strategise.


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    #562
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Question on game dynamics

    Are wolves allowed to comm off thread, didn't think they were, which would be needed if anything other than real poison/cure role surely
    quickbeam wrote: »
    Yeah, wolves will have a back room to strategise.

    Though kinda an odd question for somebody who's now read all the links relating to playing the game to be asking. A little too innocent?


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    #563
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Green&Red wrote: »
    If the role is evil I think we can assume there are only 2 wolves.
    The scenarios are below and both run out to three mislynches so it would make no odds, although I still think a wolf would take the kill when he had the chance, especially since he had it on someone who'd lynched a wolf

    Fixxxer definitely cured me, 100% without doubt, whether he is good or evil that much is fact

    Scenario 1
    lynch 1 - successful - 8-1
    Player poisoned
    munch 1 7-1
    Player cured
    mislynch 1 - 6-1
    munch - 5-1
    mislynch 2 - 4-1
    munch - 3-1
    mislynch 3 - 2-1

    Scenario 1
    lynch 1 - successful - 8-1
    Player poisoned
    munch 1 7-1
    Player dies - 6-1
    mislynch 1 - 5-1
    munch - 4-1
    mislynch 2 - 3-1
    munch - 2-1
    mislynch 3 - 1-1

    But scenario 1 gives better odds of not being lynched at 2-1


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    #564
    Green&Red
    Registered Users Posts: 11,387 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Spookie, when you were reading the glossary did you come across the term tunnelling??

    giphy.gif


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    #565
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    quickbeam wrote: »
    Though kinda an odd question for somebody who's now read all the links relating to playing the game to be asking. A little too innocent?

    Didn't find anything in the threads mentioned earlier so asking the obvious


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    #566
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Green&Red wrote: »
    Spookie, when you were reading the glossary did you come across the term tunnelling??

    giphy.gif

    I did, and I've seen nothing to cause me to want to reverse out of that tunnel.


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    #567
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    10.06 someone's late for work :D


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    #568
    MrKingsley
    Registered Users Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭MrKingsley


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    10.06 someone's late for work :D

    You still sharpening your fangs spook?


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    #569
    tusk
    Registered Users Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭tusk


    Green&Red has been munched, murderised, obliterated, extinguished, annihilated, deadified, unalived.

    GNR WAS A WOLFhunting nrv


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    #570
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Jaysus Tusk. You gave me a fright there!!

    So long GnR!


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    #571
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    MrKingsley wrote: »
    You still sharpening your fangs spook?

    Knotting my rope actually.


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