Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

seligehgit · 24-06-2019 8:42am

Boys for some reason talking about Castlebar.

seligehgit · 24-06-2019 8:43am

Blackjack wrote: »

It’ll be in Castlebar

Were Armagh not division 3??

For Forks Sake · 24-06-2019 8:45am

seligehgit wrote: »

Boys for some reason talking about Castlebar.

It's in Castlebar, Armagh were div.2 in the league, so no change of venue (only applies for Div 3/4 teams)

Blackjack · 24-06-2019 8:49am

seligehgit wrote: »

Were Armagh not division 3??

No, Division 2

Loafing Oaf · 24-06-2019 8:53am

we never get anything easy do we

Bunny Colvin · 24-06-2019 8:57am

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

we never get anything easy do we

It really could have been worse. Despite our problems, If we can't beat Armagh at home in a high stakes game, then where are we going? Not going to be easy an game but you'd still have to be confident.

jr86 · 24-06-2019 9:09am

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

It really could have been worse. Despite our problems, If we can't beat Armagh at home in a high stakes game, then where are we going? Not going to be easy an game but you'd still have to be confident.

I agree with the bolded but in fairness it couldn't have been much worse given the draw

Tyrone were obviously the one to avoid but Kildare and Armagh were always in the tricky next category

I reckon Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Clare would have been all straightforward

Bunny Colvin · 24-06-2019 9:14am

jr86 wrote: »

I agree with the bolded but in fairness it couldn't have been much worse given the draw

Tyrone were obviously the one to avoid but Kildare and Armagh were always in the tricky next category

I reckon Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Clare would have been all straightforward

We could have had Kildare, Tyrone or Armagh away. Tyrone at home would have been a tougher assignment too.

km79 · 24-06-2019 9:21am

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

It really could have been worse. Despite our problems, If we can't beat Armagh at home in a high stakes game, then where are we going? Not going to be easy an game but you'd still have to be confident.

Agreed

jr86 · 24-06-2019 9:38am

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

We could have had Kildare, Tyrone or Armagh away. Tyrone at home would have been a tougher assignment too.

Ok, the home and away thing fair enough, but from memory we've never shot the lights out in Castlebar in the Back Door, all I can really remember are that Derry debacle and the Fermanagh game where we struggled for long periods. I always thought our better performances actually came away from home at this stage

24-06-2019 9:45am

Tough fixture, but as already mentioned if we can’t win this one, whats the point of having genuine AI ambitions? Virtual certainty I’d guess Sky will cover this one, so a 5 or 7 throw in on Sat eve.

jr86 · 24-06-2019 9:49am

Deleted User wrote: »

Tough fixture, but as already mentioned if we can’t win this one, whats the point of having genuine AI ambitions? Virtual certainty I’d guess Sky will cover this one, so a 5 or 7 throw in on Sat eve.

Will they show two matches?

Kildare and Tyrone would have been the big draw I'd have thought? Two super 8 sides last year

24-06-2019 10:19am

jr86 wrote: »

Will they show two matches?

Kildare and Tyrone would have been the big draw I'd have thought? Two super 8 sides last year

Sky are showing 2 matches. Mentioned here:

https://www.skysports.com/share/11747840

Bunny Colvin · 24-06-2019 10:22am

jr86 wrote: »

Ok, the home and away thing fair enough, but from memory we've never shot the lights out in Castlebar in the Back Door, all I can really remember are that Derry debacle and the Fermanagh game where we struggled for long periods. I always thought our better performances actually came away from home at this stage

We beat Kildare at home as well a couple of years back but I take your point, our record at home in recent years isn't anything great. I'm still glad it's in Castlebar though, that was a long trip on Saturday. Now just to find out if we're on Saturday or Sunday.

Mountjoy Mugger · 24-06-2019 10:22am

Not a B&B to be had for Saturday.

Always_Running · 24-06-2019 10:27am

Tyrone was obviously the hardest tie Mayo could have got.

Kildare,Clare,Armagh are all around the same level and all Div 2 teams. Laois,Westmeath just promoted to div 2 are a level below those 3 teams and Offaly are the worst team left.

Fr Tod Umptious · 24-06-2019 10:47am

Mountjoy Mugger wrote: »

Not a B&B to be had for Saturday.

Fe Pel na n is on in Connacht next weekend so a lot of places will be booked for that.

jr86 · 24-06-2019 10:58am

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

We beat Kildare at home as well a couple of years back but I take your point, our record at home in recent years isn't anything great. I'm still glad it's in Castlebar though, that was a long trip on Saturday. Now just to find out if we're on Saturday or Sunday.

AH you're right, I thought that was in Newbridge

km79 · 24-06-2019 11:00am

jr86 wrote: »

AH you're right, I thought that was in Newbridge

Wasn’t big enough

PressRun · 24-06-2019 12:10pm

I think it's a tricky one. My main concern is McHale Park - our record there is not good.
Secondly, our defensive frailties - they have a couple of quick, smart forwards that will present a stronger challenge than Down. I would be worried about our apparent lethargy in defence, especially when ran at.
Honestly, in some respects I would have preferred Tyrone. We are used to playing them and I think we would genuinely raise our game somewhat for opposition like that. This game is harder to predict.

Hulk Hands · 24-06-2019 12:52pm

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

we never get anything easy do we

Mayo had a string of easy qualifiers in 16 and 17, the easiest possible QF both years and avoided the Dublin semi final both years. Middle of the road draws last year. Bit of self awareness needed

Lukekul · 24-06-2019 1:06pm

The GAA can confirm the following fixture details.

GAA Football All Ireland Senior Championship Round Three Qualifiers

Kildare v Tyrone, St Conleth's Park, 5pm LIVE ON SKY

Westmeath v Clare, TEG Cusack Park, 6pm

Laois v Offaly, O'Moore Park, 7pm

Mayo v Armagh, Elverys MacHale Park, 7pm LIVE ON SKY

Please note: All referees to be confirmed and ET if necessary and winner on the day in all fixtures.

Fr Tod Umptious · 24-06-2019 2:09pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Mayo had a string of easy qualifiers in 16 and 17, the easiest possible QF both years and avoided the Dublin semi final both years. Middle of the road draws last year. Bit of self awareness needed

Welcome back

Barlett · 24-06-2019 2:16pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Mayo had a string of easy qualifiers in 16 and 17, the easiest possible QF both years and avoided the Dublin semi final both years. Middle of the road draws last year. Bit of self awareness needed

While you're exaggerating there (Ulster Champions QF 2016) I would agree, I don't think we have had difficult roads in the qualifiers, we haven't had easy ones either, they're pretty much middle of the road ones, the same as this year.

jr86 · 24-06-2019 2:58pm

Barlett wrote: »

While you're exaggerating there (Ulster Champions QF 2016) I would agree, I don't think we have had difficult roads in the qualifiers, we haven't had easy ones either, they're pretty much middle of the road ones, the same as this year.

I think the A/B qualifier draw was in place in 2016?

If I remember correctly we could only get either Dublin or Tyrone in the quarters. Since we drew Westmeath in round 4 (instead of Donegal as well) we then had to play Tyrone, so that was certainly a much more fortunate scenario

Fr Tod Umptious · 24-06-2019 3:11pm

I hope all the people here whinging a few weeks ago about the timing of the Down game will be spare a thought for the Armagh fans.

PressRun · 24-06-2019 3:21pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I hope all the people here whinging a few weeks ago about the timing of the Down game will be spare a thought for the Armagh fans.

Certainly am.

7pm is crazy for fans who have to travel long distances.

Hulk Hands · 24-06-2019 3:39pm

Barlett wrote: »

While you're exaggerating there (Ulster Champions QF 2016) I would agree, I don't think we have had difficult roads in the qualifiers, we haven't had easy ones either, they're pretty much middle of the road ones, the same as this year.

You couldn't play Galway in 2016 as already played, so the draw was either Dublin Kerry or Tyrone. Dub and Kerry were on B side and you A so you avoided both until the final. Tyrone certainly the easiest.

There were 11 possible scenarios today, Tyrone home/away, Westmeath away etc. Armagh at home is the 5th hardest if you rate them better than Kildare. So middle of the road seems apt

24-06-2019 5:02pm

Tickets details available. €20 in, €5 for juveniles. Always thought they charged extra for stand admission as opposed to the rest of the ground?

http://gaa.tickets.ie/Listing/EventInformation/40168/gaa-football-all-ireland-senior-championship-round-3-mayo-v-armagh-elverys-mchale-park-29-June-2019

EDIT: and no print at home option either. Post only. Why the print at home facility is available for some games and not others is absolutely bloody ridiculous in 2019.

Coillte_Bhoy · 24-06-2019 5:25pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Tickets details available. €20 in, €5 for juveniles. Always thought they charged extra for stand admission as opposed to the rest of the ground?

http://gaa.tickets.ie/Listing/EventInformation/40168/gaa-football-all-ireland-senior-championship-round-3-mayo-v-armagh-elverys-mchale-park-29-June-2019

EDIT: and no print at home option either. Post only. Why the print at home facility is available for some games and not others is absolutely bloody ridiculous in 2019.

No stand tickets for sale there, just general Admission

24-06-2019 5:46pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

No stand tickets for sale there, just general Admission

Different rules for the qualifiers as opposed to a provincial fixture then. Normally you pay extra for stand admission. Forecast currently not great for Saturday evening. Would want to be there early if you want to stay dry!

seligehgit · 24-06-2019 6:07pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I hope all the people here whinging a few weeks ago about the timing of the Down game will be spare a thought for the Armagh fans.

They weren't whinging but rather voicing a very valid complaint and I've ample sympathy for the Armagh supporters but I'm sure they're big enough and old enough to voice same.

Martina1991 · 24-06-2019 6:24pm

seligehgit wrote:

They weren't whinging but rather voicing a very valid complaint and I've ample sympathy for the Armagh supporters but I'm sure they're big enough and old enough to voice same.

The Down game also wasnt on any t.v. station.

At least those who cant make this one can watch it on sky.

Coillte_Bhoy · 24-06-2019 8:13pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Different rules for the qualifiers as opposed to a provincial fixture then. Normally you pay extra for stand admission. Forecast currently not great for Saturday evening. Would want to be there early if you want to stay dry!

And i presume stand tickets will be dearer? Though maybe not, doubt too many will be going on public sale anyway

cocoman · 24-06-2019 8:38pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

And i presume stand tickets will be dearer? Though maybe not, doubt too many will be going on public sale anyway

General admission so no separate stand tickets. Once stand is full people will be directed to terraces.

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-06-2019 12:24am

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

I dont really buy this tbh. If you want to judge in this manner then you can say dublin lost to the now eliminated monaghan team...

I think we just need to calm down a little and look at the facts. The first one being we are on the backfoot with a lot of injuries. The second one being confidence was undoubtedly well down after the roscommon game.
We need a bit of luck in the next draw and if we get it we might have some breathing room to build momentum.
We won the game and that was all we needed to do. Now onto game 4

What I was getting at is that what we, as fans, got from the success of the the league as a guide to where this team are at may have to be reevaluated.

I thought they were on the up, they had benefited from the long layoff and we're once again back to being a real top team.

But based on the Roscommon game and the feedback from the Down game there seems to be real cause for concern.

I get it they have been unlucky with the continued absence of Cillian and the injury to Ruane, but the elephant in the room is their defence.

My worry is that Higgins is done and that Horan has no one to replace him, or no idea how to replace him.

Teams will traget Higgins.

km79 · 25-06-2019 12:25am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

What I was getting at is that what we, as fans, got from the success of the the league as a guide to where this team are at may have to be reevaluated.

I thought they were on the up, they had benefited from the long layoff and we're once again back to being a real top team.

But based on the Roscommon game and the feedback from the Down game there seems to be real cause for concern.

I get it they have been unlucky with the continued absence of Cillian and the injury to Ruane, but the elephant in the room is their defence.

My worry is that Higgins is done and that Horan has no one to replace him, or no idea how to replace him.

Teams will traget Higgins.

He could start by giving Eoin o Donoghue a few minutes!

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-06-2019 12:31am

km79 wrote: »

He could start by giving Eoin o Donoghue a few minutes!

And this has always been my worry about the second coming of James Horan

Will he be too loyal to the guys who did it for him before, even if they are beginning to show their age ?

naughto · 25-06-2019 7:43am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

And this has always been my worry about the second coming of James Horan

Will he be too loyal to the guys who did it for him before, even if they are beginning to show their age ?

He’s allready doing it look at the hennelly saga

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-06-2019 8:00am

naughto wrote: »

He’s allready doing it look at the hennelly saga

True
Hennelly used to get far more game time under Horan 1, than he did after 2014.

RedDevil55 · 25-06-2019 8:45am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

True
Hennelly used to get far more game time under Horan 1, than he did after 2014.

Clarke was 1st choice in 2012 and 2013 until he got the bad injury which kept him out for 2014 as well. Hennelly was actually 3rd choice at the start of 2013 championship.

jr86 · 25-06-2019 9:04am

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Hennelly was actually 3rd choice at the start of 2013 championship.

Wasn't even in the panel

Kenneth O'Malley and Paul mannion were the back up keepers in 2012. When Clarke and O'Malley got injured, RH got called up

Lukekul · 25-06-2019 9:47am

Maurice Deegan is the man in the middle on Saturday

km79 · 25-06-2019 12:12pm

According to ah ref
Akram and Cian Hanley are gone to america

yop · 25-06-2019 12:22pm

Higgins performance and like wise McLaughlins haven't been great this year. Both look leggy. Hopefully with more games they will lose that, but I hope its not the end of the line approaching.

cossy09 · 25-06-2019 1:07pm

Hi Lads

Living in Dublin and was thinking of taking my Dad to this game. We follow Mayo all over the country and Dad is a good age . Was last in McHale Park for the league closer against Monaghan and brought him to Croker for the final. Gave Newry a miss but had it on midwest for him. Plan is to drive down and back on Saturday.

Question is re the tickets whats the protocol ? If I buy them online on link below that gets us into the stand or terrace? I need him to be as comfortable as possible i.e a seat in the stand out of the rain as he is not long out of hospital and mad keen to go.

Also echo the thoughts about posting tickets and not having the option of emailing them. Had e tickets for the Monaghan game in the league Crazy stuff in 2019!!

Any advice appreciated

cossy

Deleted User wrote: »

Tickets details available. €20 in, €5 for juveniles. Always thought they charged extra for stand admission as opposed to the rest of the ground?

http://gaa.tickets.ie/Listing/EventInformation/40168/gaa-football-all-ireland-senior-championship-round-3-mayo-v-armagh-elverys-mchale-park-29-June-2019

EDIT: and no print at home option either. Post only. Why the print at home facility is available for some games and not others is absolutely bloody ridiculous in 2019.

spurscormac · 25-06-2019 1:35pm

cossy09 wrote: »

Hi Lads

Living in Dublin and was thinking of taking my Dad to this game. We follow Mayo all over the country and Dad is a good age . Was last in McHale Park for the league closer against Monaghan and brought him to Croker for the final. Gave Newry a miss but had it on midwest for him. Plan is to drive down and back on Saturday.

Question is re the tickets whats the protocol ? If I buy them online on link below that gets us into the stand or terrace? I need him to be as comfortable as possible i.e a seat in the stand out of the rain as he is not long out of hospital and mad keen to go.

Also echo the thoughts about posting tickets and not having the option of emailing them. Had e tickets for the Monaghan game in the league Crazy stuff in 2019!!

Any advice appreciated

cossy

First come first served in the stand.
Be warned though, Mayo fans have been arriving earlier and earlier to games, lots waiting on the gates to open.
If you want a decent seat in the stand, I reckon you'll need to be there at least an hour ahead of throw-in.

statto25 · 25-06-2019 1:37pm

km79 wrote: »

According to ah ref
Akram and Cian Hanley are gone to america

I'd be very surprised at that with the GRG business going well. I've dealt with them and they are very busy.

MayoAreMagic · 25-06-2019 1:48pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I hope all the people here whinging a few weeks ago about the timing of the Down game will be spare a thought for the Armagh fans.

Why wouldnt they?
I wouldnt call it whining tbh. I know of people who didnt get home until 3 in the morning from last weekends match. If we had woken up to news of fatalities in a traffic accident in the small hours, the people who were giving mayo fans both barrells would have been very silent. It was idiotic then and it is idiotic again this weekend.

Audioslaven · 25-06-2019 1:52pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

What I was getting at is that what we, as fans, got from the success of the the league as a guide to where this team are at may have to be reevaluated.

I thought they were on the up, they had benefited from the long layoff and we're once again back to being a real top team.

But based on the Roscommon game and the feedback from the Down game there seems to be real cause for concern.

I get it they have been unlucky with the continued absence of Cillian and the injury to Ruane, but the elephant in the room is their defence.

My worry is that Higgins is done and that Horan has no one to replace him, or no idea how to replace him.

Teams will traget Higgins.

Only for two stupid mistakes against Roscommon, we would have won. We would have most likely taken Galway. We would have been in the super eights and the doom and gloom would not be so high.

We have fixed the first mistake with Clarke and Higgins is still an issue, but the real bigger problem is that confidence is now low and this makes us vulnerable all over the pitch in these qualifiers.

I do think we will improve once we get to CP, so we just need to get through these next two games in whatever manner.

Also, we cannot give Geezer a bigger head than he already has.

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

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