Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

padd b1975 · 13-02-2020 7:39pm

km79 wrote: »

Carr simply must have some kind of injury fitness issue and is being eased back in
Not even Horan is this mad

I think Carr could end up like Tom Parsons in Horan's last reign.

Once he makes up his mind about someone, it doesn't really change.
He seems to substitute Carr early and regularly.

BandMember · 13-02-2020 7:59pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

I think Carr could end up like Tom Parsons in Horan's last reign.

Once he makes up his mind about someone, it doesn't really change.
He seems to substitute Carr early and regularly.

In fairness, Parsons suffered from injuries, a major loss of form and by working overseas throughout that time period - once he got fit and showed a run of form, he was back on the panel in 2014 and got some game time (which is limited by the fact that there was a few lads ahead of him in the pecking order).

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/tom-parsons-i-remember-saying-to-my-parents-i-will-play-for-mayo-again-458704.html

Blackjack · 13-02-2020 8:01pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

I think Carr could end up like Tom Parsons in Horan's last reign.

Once he makes up his mind about someone, it doesn't really change.
He seems to substitute Carr early and regularly.

Pretty sure Carr went off injured in the Donegal game and was recovering late last year as well. I suspect it’s a case of having to sub him off rather than choosing to.

km79 · 13-02-2020 8:06pm

Blackjack wrote: »

Pretty sure Carr went off injured in the Donegal game and was recovering late last year as well. I suspect it’s a case of having to sub him off rather than choosing to.

Yeah
Whilst I agree Horan can be stubborn and take sets against lads I don’t think this is the case with Carr
He clearly rates him
He must be carrying A slight niggle . Under diff circumstances he would prob not have played him at all and let him recover . But needs must .
Hopefully the break will see him and a few more recover
The extra week might help us close the gap on Monaghan fitness wise
They are basically at championship pace at the moment and full strength

charlie14 · 13-02-2020 8:35pm

Blackjack wrote: »

Pretty sure Carr went off injured in the Donegal game and was recovering late last year as well. I suspect it’s a case of having to sub him off rather than choosing to.

Yeah, pretty sure he went off injured in the Donegal game as well.
Dont like to see lads going off injured, but tbh on that occasion I wasn`t that sorry to see the back of him.:o

seligehgit · 13-02-2020 9:34pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

I think Carr could end up like Tom Parsons in Horan's last reign.

Once he makes up his mind about someone, it doesn't really change.
He seems to substitute Carr early and regularly.

TBF to James Horan he seemed to indicate in the latest podcast that he was easing some of the players back in post injury.

Audioslaven · 13-02-2020 11:50pm

km79 wrote: »

Yeah
Whilst I agree Horan can be stubborn and take sets against lads I don’t think this is the case with Carr
He clearly rates him
He must be carrying A slight niggle . Under diff circumstances he would prob not have played him at all and let him recover . But needs must .
Hopefully the break will see him and a few more recover
The extra week might help us close the gap on Monaghan fitness wise
They are basically at championship pace at the moment and full strength

In fairness to Carr, he has been impressive so far imo. He has bulked up and looks a strong guy, I like the way he plays as well as he wants to score and has a real eye for a goal.

TsuDhoNimh · 14-02-2020 12:11am

Jason Doherty back walking in straight lines.

A lot of work left to get the stability and flexibility back I'm sure, but great to hear he's well on the mend.

RedDevil55 · 14-02-2020 1:15am

TsuDhoNimh wrote: »

Jason Doherty back walking in straight lines.

A lot of work left to get the stability and flexibility back I'm sure, but great to hear he's well on the mend.

I assume you mean sprinting in straight lines? I think you're off the crutches and walking a few weeks after an ACL operation.

Good to hear either way!

seligehgit · 14-02-2020 9:54pm

Tad surprised Padraig O Hora did not start on Sunday,he'd done little wrong thus far in the league.He was'nt named amongst the substitutes in the match day program either.

Anyway he's going to feature as a participant on Monday night on RTE2 at 21.35 in season 2 of Special Forces: Ultimate Hell Week.

Can't say I've ever heard of it but I'll definitely give it a look.

Blackjack · 14-02-2020 10:15pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Tad surprised Padraig O Hora did not start on Sunday,he'd done little wrong thus far in the league.He was'nt named amongst the substitutes in the match day program either.

Anyway he's going to feature as a participant on Monday night on RTE2 at 21.35 in season 2 of Special Forces: Ultimate Hell Week.

Can't say I've ever heard of it but I'll definitely give it a look.

From what I heard he was named to start but was sick so was replaced I think?

glack · 14-02-2020 10:21pm

Blackjack wrote: »

From what I heard he was named to start but was sick so was replaced I think?

I heard similar. Sick mid week.

HBC08 · 15-02-2020 7:56pm

Yes,O Hora was sick and thats why he wasnt in the squad last Sunday.If he keeps going as good as he has been he'll be starting in the summer.

MayoAreMagic · 17-02-2020 9:22pm

HBC08 wrote: »

Yes,O Hora was sick and thats why he wasnt in the squad last Sunday.If he keeps going as good as he has been he'll be starting in the summer.

Im not sure about that tbh. He looks for contact a bit too much for me. A surefire way to get turned over in your own half. Easily something he could change but at present id pick barrett harrison and mullen ahead of him.

seligehgit · 18-02-2020 12:36am

Padraig O Hora is some man.

Still hanging tough after week one of that hellish challenge.

seligehgit · 18-02-2020 12:43am

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Im not sure about that tbh. He looks for contact a bit too much for me. A surefire way to get turned over in your own half. Easily something he could change but at present id pick barrett harrison and mullen ahead of him.

If Oisin Mullin lives up to his promise IMO he's a certainty to start come the summer irrespective of his age.He's frightening pace and appears to be a great reader of the game.A young Zippy mark 2!

Depends on what James Horan read is on Eoin O Donoghue.He'll surely contend strongly against Chris Barrett when you consider Chris is in the later stage of his playing career.

Padraig O Hora has in the main started in the half back line thus far.I've seen him start for the Stephenites in both the full back and half back lines.He's a very honest combative and aggressive footballer in the very best sense but I agree with your point re the contact fault line.

He doesn't strike me as the paciest footballer which will impede his ability to compete for a berth in the half back line?I could be totally wrong.He is a super option to have in the mix though.

Mayo v Monaghan will be shown on TG4 on Sunday ( Deferred Coverage ).

Green&Red · 18-02-2020 10:16am

Whats the story with Fionn McDonagh? I know there were rumours at the start of the year and I don't want to talk about those but does anyone know definitively if he is still on the panel?

Edwin McGreal has mentioned him twice now on the mayo news podcast, once before the Donegal game I think and again in the Monaghan preview. Don't know where McGreal is from so maybe he has an agenda but he is someone who must be somewhat in the know given his profession, if McDonagh was off the panel surely he wouldn't be referencing him as someone who can come back during the summer?

RedDevil55 · 18-02-2020 10:39am

Green&Red wrote: »

Whats the story with Fionn McDonagh? I know there were rumours at the start of the year and I don't want to talk about those but does anyone know definitively if he is still on the panel?

Edwin McGreal has mentioned him twice now on the mayo news podcast, once before the Donegal game I think and again in the Monaghan preview. Don't know where McGreal is from so maybe he has an agenda but he is someone who must be somewhat in the know given his profession, if McDonagh was off the panel surely he wouldn't be referencing him as someone who can come back during the summer?

I was wondering the same. James Horan had an interview with Keith Duggan in the Irish Times after the Donegal league game. Towards the end he was talking about young players that would be stronger this year and mentioned Fionn as one of those.

HBC08 · 18-02-2020 11:06am

RedDevil55 wrote: »

I was wondering the same. James Horan had an interview with Keith Duggan in the Irish Times after the Donegal league game. Towards the end he was talking about young players that would be stronger this year and mentioned Fionn as one of those.

The Horan part of that interview was given before the discipline issue came up.My understanding is Fionn is not being considered for selection for the league but will be for championship

Green&Red · 18-02-2020 11:12am

HBC08 wrote: »

The Horan part of that interview was given before the discipline issue came up.My understanding is Fionn is not being considered for selection for the league but will be for championship

Thats good news

km79 · 18-02-2020 12:10pm

HBC08 wrote: »

The Horan part of that interview was given before the discipline issue came up.My understanding is Fionn is not being considered for selection for the league but will be for championship

Also heard he is not off the panel for the whole year
Wouldn't be surprised to see him at latter stages of league

TsuDhoNimh · 18-02-2020 10:07pm

Green&Red wrote: »

Don't know where McGreal is from so maybe he has an agenda...

Not the type to push an agenda like that from what I've seen over the years. He's more a direct call a spade a spade type. Originally from Breaffy, living out in Achill these days (often mentioned in his stories/twitter, so I'd imagine he wouldn't mind it posted).

Rumours around Castlebar for some time had been we'd not see Fionn or Eoin O'D until championship. Given we've seen Eoin already shows its always worth treating those with a heafty pinch of salt. Given the work Fionn put in last year it'd be remiss of a journalist not to query his current absence, I'd imagine. Even if we don't see him for a while yet, great to have more competition for those places going forward.

Coillte_Bhoy · 19-02-2020 5:23pm

What channel is the Mayo Kerry game on?

mayo.mick · 19-02-2020 9:13pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

What channel is the Mayo Kerry game on?

Eir sport and rte2

muddle84 · 20-02-2020 10:52am

The Mayo team named sees five changes from the win over Meath last time. In to the team comes Padraig O'Hora, Oisin Mullin, Kevin McLoughlin, Darren Coen(first start of the season) and Eoghan McLaughlin who will be making his full debut having come off the bench last weekend.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Lee Keegan - Westport
5. Eoghan McLaughlin - Westport
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
9. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy (C)
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Darren Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
15. James Carr - Ardagh

muddle84 · 20-02-2020 10:53am

Clarke isn't getting a look in at all since the first game!

Padkir · 20-02-2020 12:02pm

muddle84 wrote: »

The Mayo team named sees five changes from the win over Meath last time. In to the team comes Padraig O'Hora, Oisin Mullin, Kevin McLoughlin, Darren Coen(first start of the season) and Eoghan McLaughlin who will be making his full debut having come off the bench last weekend.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Lee Keegan - Westport
5. Eoghan McLaughlin - Westport
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
9. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy (C)
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Darren Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
15. James Carr - Ardagh

Darren Coen and James Carr together in the full forward line will be interesting. If Coen can get back to early last year form they will be hard to keep tabs on.

flasher0030 · 20-02-2020 6:48pm

Padkir wrote: »

Darren Coen and James Carr together in the full forward line will be interesting. If Coen can get back to early last year form they will be hard to keep tabs on.

I think that's a bit optimistic - one chap hasn't played in months, and the other is being hauled off at half time every game he does play.
I was at the Dublin Monaghan game, and Monaghan looked well impressive. I know Dublin got the game back in the last 15 mins or so, but up to that, Monaghan were completely bullying them around the park.
I hope I'm wrong, but I cannot see Mayo getting anything from this game. If so, then we are looking at trying to sneak a result in Salthill, and then down to the wire against Tyrone in Castlebar.
Anyway, one game at a time.

km79 · 20-02-2020 6:56pm

flasher0030 wrote: »

I think that's a bit optimistic - one chap hasn't played in months, and the other is being hauled off at half time every game he does play.
I was at the Dublin Monaghan game, and Monaghan looked well impressive. I know Dublin got the game back in the last 15 mins or so, but up to that, Monaghan were completely bullying them around the park.
I hope I'm wrong, but I cannot see Mayo getting anything from this game. If so, then we are looking at trying to sneak a result in Salthill, and then down to the wire against Tyrone in Castlebar.
Anyway, one game at a time.

We have a decent record against Kerry in the league
Don’t write that one off
Agree about this weekend though

Green&Red · 20-02-2020 6:57pm

flasher0030 wrote: »

I think that's a bit optimistic - one chap hasn't played in months, and the other is being hauled off at half time every game he does play.
I was at the Dublin Monaghan game, and Monaghan looked well impressive. I know Dublin got the game back in the last 15 mins or so, but up to that, Monaghan were completely bullying them around the park.
I hope I'm wrong, but I cannot see Mayo getting anything from this game. If so, then we are looking at trying to sneak a result in Salthill, and then down to the wire against Tyrone in Castlebar.
Anyway, one game at a time.

Like the Kerry game?

We beat Monaghan in Clones the last two times we've played there, no reason why we can't again

I assume Keegan is in to man mark McManus, that'll be interesting to see, I wouldn't be surprised to see Harry start and mark him

NabyLadistheman · 21-02-2020 10:40am

The 2 week break will have done us the world of good. Horan was targeting the Dublin game for a big performance and he got it until half-time, the sending-off effectively ruining all plans of a win. Meath was an abomination of a performance but getting out of there with 2 points was a massive plus. Another 2 weeks of fitness into Aido, Leeroy and a few others. I fancy us to bring a performance to Clones and get a result

seligehgit · 22-02-2020 2:41pm

Absolutely gutted but I won't make Clones tomorrow.

MWR pour moi and the deferred TV coverage on TG4 at 15.46.

Lukekul · 22-02-2020 3:04pm

I think I'll stump for the tenner on GAA Go

seligehgit · 22-02-2020 3:16pm

Lukekul wrote: »

I think I'll stump for the tenner on GAA Go

Will do!Cheers for that.Will record the deferred coverage but I hate the thought of not watching it live and hiding away from any spoilers via text,whatsapp and Boards in the interim!

For some reason I could'nt log in to the website on Chrome.

Up and running on Edge.

Martina1991 · 22-02-2020 4:06pm

I've never been to Clones. I'll be coming from Sligo direction.

Any advice on parking or faculties near by?

km79 · 22-02-2020 9:42pm

Pattons "weapon" of a kickout isn't much use if he cant do his primary job of catching a high ball and keeping the ball out of the net.
But I already had this debate last month and last year I believe......

Blackjack · 22-02-2020 9:44pm

km79 wrote: »

Pattons "weapon" of a kickout isn't much use if he cant do his primary job of catching a high ball and keeping the ball out of the net.
But I already had this debate last month and last year I believe......

Can’t imagine the Donegal lads will be having sly digs at their own keepers though.

charlie14 · 22-02-2020 9:52pm

km79 wrote: »

Pattons "weapon" of a kickout isn't much use if he cant do his primary job of catching a high ball and keeping the ball out of the net.
But I already had this debate last month and last year I believe......

For what his kick-outs give, I won`t begrudge him the odd faux pas. Doubt many Donegal supporters will.

km79 · 22-02-2020 9:54pm

charlie14 wrote: »

For what his kick-outs give, I won`t begrudge him the odd faux pas. Doubt many Donegal supporters will.

Depends who the alternative is I guess?

km79 · 22-02-2020 9:57pm

Blackjack wrote: »

Can’t imagine the Donegal lads will be having sly digs at their own keepers though.

I am referencing a debate I had about him last Summer and after Mayo game
I think he is very weak under a high ball and his kickouts do not make up for that

My views on our own keepers are well known. Its not a sly dig. I want my keeper to command his area first and foremost. Others disagree. Thats why there is always a debate. Opposing views. Nothing personal

charlie14 · 22-02-2020 9:58pm

km79 wrote: »

Depends who the alternative is I guess?

Well Cluxton seems happy living in Dublin.

km79 · 22-02-2020 10:00pm

charlie14 wrote: »

Well Cluxton seems happy living in Dublin.

So no decision for management to make so.
In many ways that is easier

charlie14 · 22-02-2020 10:09pm

km79 wrote: »

So no decision for management to make so.
In many ways that is easier

Cluxton at times is no great shakes under the high ball at times, but that is more than made up for by his kick-outs.
Patton`s the same and has been worth at least 3 points a game to Donegal since he took over.

Coillte_Bhoy · 22-02-2020 10:32pm

Lukekul wrote: »

I think I'll stump for the tenner on GAA Go

Its not on live on it, is it?

seligehgit · 22-02-2020 11:25pm

charlie14 wrote: »

Cluxton at times is no great shakes under the high ball at times, but that is more than made up for by his kick-outs.
Patton`s the same and has been worth at least 3 points a game to Donegal since he took over.

Can't believe I've been dragged into discussing other counties goalkeepers on our county thread but TBF to err is human and Patton's has all the attributes to be a truly outstanding goalkeeper into the future.Very impressed with the lad.

Outside of Cluxton Beggan IMO is the standard bearer.

Morgan is too inconsistent.

Hopefully our Robert will have a good day out tomorrow.

km79 · 22-02-2020 11:37pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Can't believe I've been dragged into discussing other counties goalkeepers on our county thread but TBF to err is human and Patton's has all the attributes to be a truly outstanding goalkeeper into the future.Very impressed with the lad.

Outside of Cluxton Beggan IMO is the standard bearer.

Morgan is too inconsistent.

Hopefully our Robert will have a good day out tomorrow.

Many other county players have been discussed on this GAA forum
You have referenced two yourself who have been repeatedly

Patton was discussed tonight because last summer he was held up as what our number one at the time should be
Due to his kickouts
I suggested at the time he had a weakness under the high ball and looked more like a soccer keeper at times and I would prefer Clarke
And with Clarke we went one step further into the championship last year

Tonight again we seen his weakness which like it or not cost his team the game and a valuable two points

I am clearly old fashioned in what I want my keeper to do . Not every team has a Michael Murphy to kickout out to .....

And yes hopefully our keeper (I assume it is Robbie ) tomorrow has a good game tomorrow and we sneak a win

It’s an Internet forum where we all have opinions . I am sure people think McManus is a better option than Cillain O Connor for example but I would argue against it too Cos I am contrary

seligehgit · 22-02-2020 11:57pm

km79 wrote: »

Many other county players have been discussed on this GAA forum
You have referenced two yourself who have been repeatedly

Patton was discussed tonight because last summer he was held up as what our number one at the time should be
Due to his kickouts
I suggested at the time he had a weakness under the high ball and looked more like a soccer keeper at times and I would prefer Clarke
And with Clarke we went one step further into the championship last year

Tonight again we seen his weakness which like it or not cost his team the game and a valuable two points

I am clearly old fashioned in what I want my keeper to do . Not every team has a Michael Murphy to kickout out to .....

And yes hopefully our keeper (I assume it is Robbie ) tomorrow has a good game tomorrow and we sneak a win

It’s an Internet forum where we all have opinions . I am sure people think McManus is a better option than Cillain O Connor for example but I would argue against it too Cos I am contrary

Ah it's very much tongue in cheek outrage on my behalf.

I've no issue discussing outsiders lol.

We're not that insular here in Mayo.

Of course this is a discussion forum and all topics are up for debate on a continual basis.

I missed the first half of tonight's game (recorded it) but on the basis of what I've seen last year and thus far this year Donegal will be involved deep into championship on the proviso they can keep Murphy fit.

km79 · 22-02-2020 11:58pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Ah it's very much tongue in cheek outrage on my behalf.

I've no issue discussing outsiders lol.

We're not that insular here in Mayo.

Of course this is a discussion forum and all topics are up for debate on a continual basis.

I missed the first half of tonight's game (recorded it) but on the basis of what I've seen last year and thus far this year Donegal will begin involved deep into championship on the proviso they can keep Murphy fit.

Agreed on all

That is always the proviso with Donegal tbh
He is a freak of nature and would be missed by any team
But their squad has been thin enough so losing him would be devastating
Goes to show how strong our squad was/is that we managed to get over them to reach the semis last year
And that’s why there is always a continuing debate over our keepers as well
A lot of counties don’t have that decision to make !

We could do with a bit of luck on the injury front tbh
If and it’s a huge IF we could get everyone back AND match fit by summer we will match anyone
And that includes Dublin . There is a reason they recalled Connolly and still continued to call oj McMahon , Cooper , mdma , mcmennemaon etc last summer. The lads behind them are not as good . The gap was and is closing imo

I am afraid though we will head into summer again with some lads fir and some lads half fit and other lads not even fit !

muddle84 · 23-02-2020 10:52am

seligehgit wrote: »

Ah it's very much tongue in cheek outrage on my behalf.

I've no issue discussing outsiders lol.

We're not that insular here in Mayo.

Of course this is a discussion forum and all topics are up for debate on a continual basis.

I missed the first half of tonight's game (recorded it) but on the basis of what I've seen last year and thus far this year Donegal will be involved deep into championship on the proviso they can keep Murphy fit.

Just as important as fit, they need to keep him away from cards and the likes of John Small

Coillte_Bhoy · 23-02-2020 11:55am

Lads, anyone know if you can watch GAA Go on more than one device?

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

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