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Peter Casey's beliefs of Travellers' ethnicity Part II

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  • #52
    fin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    end of the road wrote: »
    it's quite obvious what she was talking about.



    we very much have the balls to deport them. once the full procedures are exausted. direct provision may have it's faults but people going through the process need to be accommodated somewhere while they go through the process, somewhere the authorities can insure their whereabouts. + the majority of asylum seekers aren't fraudsters, they haven't been charged with, and in a court of law, found guilty of fraud.



    or perhapse she is busy, out somewhere, asleep, whichever?



    i'd say there is no chance. he couldn't even get elected to the presidentsy. i have a feeling this chap if he does go for politics, will be the irish version of flipflop farage. running for election but keeps being rejected.

    I say there will be every chance he will be voted in especially in the counties he topped the presidential vote in. He has done very well so far.


  • #53
    fin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    end of the road wrote: »
    nope. he really doesn't. he says what some people think. but he most certainly does not say what all the rest of us think.



    so am i, but peter casey is the exact same as them.



    casey supporters got plenty of platforms to get their message across.

    Sorry he does talk about more than Travellers, he was talking about health care the last night and the terrible long waiting lists for operations something I know all too well about.


  • #54
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Dear O, if you are the second highest contributor to that thread of 10,000 posts and you need to be told what it is travellers believe makes them travellers then I am sorry I have no inclination to help you.

    Ok grand. I thought it would be a handy definition you'd have to hand and you'd have no problem sharing it. My mistake.


  • #55
    erica74
    Registered Users Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭erica74


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    They campaigned for this for years. They want their diversity recognised.

    What makes them diverse? I think it's glaringly obvious what the general population recognises as traveller "diversity" but could you describe what you think their "diversity" is and why it needed to be recognised?
    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Not sure why you wish to make things up them wanting to live above our laws in some way.

    Do you listen to the news? There is absolutely no need for anyone to make anything up about travellers, they create their own headlines.


  • #56
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Should a presidential candidate be allowed to target one community on that subject in an erroneous and discriminatory way? No, he should be robustly challenged on that. And he was. Hence the whinging.

    He was asked a question about the community in question and responded. He didn't target anyone. You're wrong. Incorrect.


  • #57
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,895 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    erica74 wrote: »
    What makes them diverse? I think it's glaringly obvious what the general population recognises as traveller "diversity" but could you describe what you think their "diversity" is and why it needed to be recognised?



    Do you listen to the news? There is absolutely no need for anyone to make anything up about travellers, they create their own headlines.

    Some of them do, of that there is no doubt. Some of the settled community make the news too, some of our immigrant community as well, and for equally bad reasons.


  • #58
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Panch18 wrote: »
    Can you outline exactly what diversity travellers have that should be recognised?

    LOoK iN tHe ThReAd ThErE aRe 10K pOsTs!


  • #59
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    complaints@rte.ie is the place to go.

    This is the legislation that they failed in

    "RTis obliged under Section 39 (1) of the Broadcasting Act 2009 to ensure that:

    (a) all news broadcast is reported and presented in an objective and impartial manner and without any expression of the broadcaster's own views."

    That'll end up in the same type of filing cabinet as Francie's group's complaint to the Gardai :D


  • #60
    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    The insurance companies are getting to grips with false personal injury claims and no prizes for guessing which members of our community are over represented in personal injuries claims.

    Its about time the Insurance companies tackled this problem because its us fools who payy insurance and road tax who have been funding these payouts.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/court-directs-60k-fraudulent-insurance-claim-be-reported-to-garda%C3%AD-1.3291459

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/2768170/julieanne-joyce-taxi-claim-thrown-out/

    Its all part of the culture and the Gardai dont have the expertise or the manpower to prosecute fraudsters. There should be a dedicated unit set up within the Gardai to deal with these people even if its funded by the insurance companies themselves. I would have no problem in paying extra for car insurance if it meant people would be prosecuted for these crimes.


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  • #61
    erica74
    Registered Users Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭erica74


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    No. He was asked about homelessness and introduced travellers and Tipperary himself.

    Houses being built and refused by anyone is certainly relevant to a discussion about homelessness. Why should he not have brought up travellers and the issues they cause in society?


  • #62
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    tretorn wrote: »

    As a very unwilling licence fee payer to RTE I would like management to review that interview and call Tubridy to account over it.

    How did RTÉ respond when you asked them to do this?


  • #63
    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    Phoebas wrote: »
    How did RTÉ respond when you asked them to do this?

    I would expect RTE management to do their job without having to be asked by people who directly pay their wages.

    If RTE management having read the twitter criticism and having watched Tubridys petulant childish behaviour still dont think there is cause for concern then RTE is no longer an objective professional broadcaster.


  • #64
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    tretorn wrote: »
    I would expect RTE management to do their job without having to be asked by people who directly pay their wages.

    If RTE management having read the twitter criticism and having watched Tubridys petulant childish behaviour still dont think there is cause for concern then RTE is no longer an objective professional broadcaster.
    Fair enough.
    You're just complaining about RTÉ on boards, but you haven't made an actual complaint to RTÉ.

    Will you be back on here next week complaining that RTÉ haven't dealt appropriately with the complaint you didn't tell them about?


  • #65
    fin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    tretorn wrote: »
    The insurance companies are getting to grips with false personal injury claims and no prizes for guessing which members of our community are over represented in personal injuries claims.

    Its about time the Insurance companies tackled this problem because its us fools who payy insurance and road tax who have been funding these payouts.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/court-directs-60k-fraudulent-insurance-claim-be-reported-to-garda%C3%AD-1.3291459

    This is completely true, I worked in a solicitors office before and there was Travellers in most days with personal injuries claim. They even take cases against each other, like the wife would sue the husband who had an accident while a passenger in the car.


  • #66
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    tretorn wrote: »
    I wonder will Tubridy make any reference on his radio show tomorrow to the criticism he got on twitter over his totally biased interview with Peter Casey.

    As a very unwilling licence fee payer to RTE I would like management to review that interview and call Tubridy to account over it.

    Unfortunately, the likes of Turd-idy and his RTE quango co-horts are untouchable. They are protected by liberal and leftist politicians where you will find an enormous amount of mutual back-scratching going on.

    Don't forget that RTE has a complete disdain for the squeezed middle. We are the people who pay for the terrible service that RTE provide to the country through their disproportionate-charge-for-what-we-get television license. RTE tries at every opportunity to seek retribution on those of us who object to their requests for an increase in the TV tax .... in order to give pay increases to their already exorbitantly paid "talent".

    When the squeezed middle finally get a voice in this country (and it will be soon), I'd say that the Television license will be on the way out. Either RTE sink or they swim on their own.


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  • #67
    Edward M
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Edward M


    tretorn wrote: »
    The insurance companies are getting to grips with false personal injury claims and no prizes for guessing which members of our community are over represented in personal injuries claims.

    Its about time the Insurance companies tackled this problem because its us fools who payy insurance and road tax who have been funding these payouts.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/court-directs-60k-fraudulent-insurance-claim-be-reported-to-garda%C3%AD-1.3291459

    Just on insurance, I have a small holding acroos the border here in longford, a couple of sheds and 8 acres of land.
    I have house insurance here and a few sheds with 20 acres of land, in Cavan.
    My farm insurance is higher in longford and has to be separated from here by fbd, or if I include it all together it would be dearer, I was told it was because of the high crime rate on longford farms because of travellers.
    I'm not saying that's the official line, but that's what I was told anyway.


  • #68
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    MFPM wrote: »
    Might I suggest you take your head out of your bigoted ar$e and look at the facts of the situation - you're simply aping Casey.
    Mod note: MFPM, don't post in this thread again. There's no need for anybody to be abusive when replying to a post.


    Buford T. Justice


  • #69
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    fin12 wrote: »
    I say there will be every chance he will be voted in especially in the counties he topped the presidential vote in. He has done very well so far.

    What are you talking about? Michael D topped the poll in every single constituency and only in a handful was Casey even reasonably close behind him.


  • #70
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,895 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Omackeral wrote: »
    He was asked a question about the community in question and responded. He didn't target anyone. You're wrong. Incorrect.

    Wrong O, completely wrong. He was asked about homelessness and introduced Tipp and travellers himself. He then went on to have a go at SEMS.
    20.22 here.
    https://soundcloud.com/the-floating-voter-independent-ie/presidential-candidate-peter-casey-believes-travellers-should-not-be-recognised-as-a-ethnic-minority


  • #71
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Some of them do, of that there is no doubt. Some of the settled community make the news too, some of our immigrant community as well, and for equally bad reasons.

    Again I’ll ask the question, what is traveller diversity? What makes them diverse?


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  • #72
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    No. He was asked about homelessness and introduced travellers and Tipperary himself.

    He hasn't addressed any of the other issues you mention, that I can see. That is what his supporters think he was referring to in some sort of masonic secret shorthand way.

    He brought it up in the context of discussing people turning down offers of housing.
    Perfectly legitimate context.

    Listen to about 20 mins in....

    https://soundcloud.com/the-floating-voter-independent-ie/presidential-candidate-peter-casey-believes-travellers-should-not-be-recognised-as-a-ethnic-minority


  • #73
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,895 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Panch18 wrote: »
    Again I’ll ask the question, what is traveller diversity? What makes them diverse?

    Again I will answer - if you don't know the answer to that,(what travellers say about it and what your government accepted) go research it. It is not my responsibility to inform you. Nor to defend what travellers think.
    Personally I accept the arguments for SEMS.


  • #74
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,895 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    He brought it up in the context of discussing people turning down offers of housing.
    Perfectly legitimate context.

    Listen to about 20 mins in....

    https://soundcloud.com/the-floating-voter-independent-ie/presidential-candidate-peter-casey-believes-travellers-should-not-be-recognised-as-a-ethnic-minority


    It may or may not be legitimate. The poster said he 'was asked' specifically about the Tipp situation and SEMS. He wasn't, he introduced those subjects himself.


  • #75
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Again I will answer - if you don't know the answer to that,(what travellers say about it and what your government accepted) go research it. It is not my responsibility to inform you. Nor to defend what travellers think.
    Personally I accept the arguments for SEMS.

    So you can’t answer the question then

    Go figure


  • #76
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Again I will answer - if you don't know the answer to that,(what travellers say about it and what your government accepted) go research it. It is not my responsibility to inform you. Nor to defend what travellers think.
    Personally I accept the arguments for SEMS.

    So you can’t answer the question then

    Go figure


  • #77
    Redneck Culchie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 378 ✭✭Redneck Culchie


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    complaints@rte.ie is the place to go.

    This is the legislation that they failed in

    "RTÉ is obliged under Section 39 (1) of the Broadcasting Act 2009 to ensure that:

    (a) all news broadcast is reported and presented in an objective and impartial manner and without any expression of the broadcaster's own views."
    Sending my complaint in now. I also think it's worth people reporting to the BAI under the legislation you quoted above.


    https://www.bai.ie/en/viewers-listeners/complaints/


  • #78
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,104 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Different is not different.



    Entitlements are not entitlements.



    You still here?

    Not sure why you're posting WW2 propaganda (it is explicitly such). Don't worry your head listermint, I'll do the work for you!

    So the American movie Don't be a sucker was warning against 5th columnists and socially divisive rabble rousers. Presumably it was also an opportunity for FDR to promote racial desegregation as well, though that didn't stop him from the mass interment of people with Japanese heritage the year before.

    A fascist who was openly anti-Catholic Church? Seems a bit unlikely. Also the fascists in America were more likely to be acting on a pacifist note, in the same way that the fascists in Germany were more about undoing the Versailles Treaty as their primary take-home message.

    Wait - but how does this relate to Ireland?

    Dun dun dun


    It's that when you get someone lauching tirades against certain people or organizations, like the Catholic Church, the Brits, the Prods, or the scummy bankers, you are giving into extremism. I think I've picked that up wrong.

    Okay, I'll give it another go. There are 5th columnists afoot who will weaken the war effort. They should not be given a platform from which to sow division during these perilous times. No, no, I'm still missing it.

    This is tougher than I thought, listermint, I'm not surprised you left it to me.

    Oh wait, Casey is a fascist.

    Got it.

    You still here.


    Response. Yes I'm still here your attempts to ridicule a single poster out of a thread didn't work.

    Casey is a facist ? Never said it. Can you give me a link where I said Casey is a facist or said he was like a facist?

    Il wait.

    Watch the video again it's fairly obvious explanation of where demonising sections of society leads . You don't get it. Fine. Others will.


  • #79
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Omackeral wrote: »
    He was asked a question about the community in question and responded. He didn't target anyone. You're wrong. Incorrect.

    That's not true.
    He was asked a question about the housing crisis in general and he introduced the topic of people refusing houses and the specific instance in Tipp.


  • #80
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    Phoebas wrote: »
    That's not true.
    He was asked a question about the housing crisis in general and he introduced the topic of people refusing houses and the specific instance in Tipp.

    And isn’t it a very valid point to bring into a conversation on housing and homelessness??


  • #81
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,895 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Panch18 wrote: »
    So you can’t answer the question then

    Go figure

    No, I can. I read the documentation and the contributions from all sides in the debate leading up to the conferring of SEMS. I am satisfied with SEMS as an aid to inclusivity and to parity of esteem.

    It's you that seems to be having some difficulty.


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  • #82
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,104 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    tretorn wrote: »
    I wonder will Tubridy make any reference on his radio show tomorrow to the criticism he got on twitter over his totally biased interview with Peter Casey.

    As a very unwilling licence fee payer to RTE I would like management to review that interview and call Tubridy to account over it.

    Why bother.

    If it's not obvious to you that its usually angry people angry about something that are the loudest then I suggest getting a job in a customer service department for a week.

    Everyone else is just out there living their lives beside their neighbours just getting on with it. Not being angry all the time.

    That's the exhausted middle. Not the 6 percent of twitter ranters


  • #83
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    No, I can. I read the documentation and the contributions from all sides in the debate leading up to the conferring of SEMS. I am satisfied with SEMS as an aid to inclusivity and to parity of esteem.

    It's you that seems to be having some difficulty.

    Yet you can’t actually list anything that makes them diverse??


  • #84
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,895 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Panch18 wrote: »
    Yet you can’t actually list anything that makes them diverse??

    :D:D Yes I can.

    If you are in this debate and don't know what it is travellers say on the subject and what your government agreed to, then it isn't my responsibility to inform you.

    The subject of the thread kinda suggests you should know something about the subject.


  • #85
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Panch18 wrote: »
    And isn’t it a very valid point to bring into a conversation on housing and homelessness??

    It is.
    Just correcting the untruth that he was just answering a question he was asked by someone else.
    He introduced the whole traveller bit, with no prompting from anyone.


  • #86
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,895 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Phoebas wrote: »
    It is.
    Just correcting the untruth that he was just answering a question he was asked by someone else.
    He introduced the whole traveller bit, with no prompting from anyone.

    And it is entirely legitimate to say he 'targeted' a specific community.


  • #87
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Panch18 wrote: »
    Again I’ll ask the question, what is traveller diversity? What makes them diverse?


    Unique language and religious customs I would say are the main things.


  • #88
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    :D:D Yes I can.

    If you are in this debate and don't know what it is travellers say on the subject and what your government agreed to, then it isn't my responsibility to inform you.

    The subject of the thread kinda suggests you should know something about the subject.

    Actually it’s seems that you can’t list anything - despite being repeatedly asked to do so you avoid answering what is requested of you


  • #89
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Phoebas wrote: »
    It is.
    Just correcting the untruth that he was just answering a question he was asked by someone else.
    He introduced the whole traveller bit, with no prompting from anyone.

    They were speaking about the homeless crisis. The hot topic at that time was the Travellers refusal to take the state of the art homes offered to them in Tipp. It was national news and therefore relevant. It was a natural progression from the topic which was offered by the hosts.


  • #90
    Redneck Culchie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 378 ✭✭Redneck Culchie


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Unique language and religious customs I would say are the main things.
    What are Travellers unique religious customs compared to other Catholics? They attend the same masses as everyone else.


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  • #91
    fin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    What are you talking about? Michael D topped the poll in every single constituency and only in a handful was Casey even reasonably close behind him.

    No he didn’t, he topped the polls in Rathkeale, Askeaton, and a few others, what r u talking about???


  • #92
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Unique language and religious customs I would say are the main things.

    That would make Gaeilgeoirhi their own ethnic group surely?


  • #93
    xi5yvm0owc1s2b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭xi5yvm0owc1s2b


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Dear O, if you are the second highest contributor to that thread of 10,000 posts and you need to be told what it is travellers believe makes them travellers then I am sorry, I have no inclination to help you.

    Takes kids out of school before age 15? Check.

    Marries kids off to cousins or second cousins while still in their teens? Check

    High probability of having a criminal record or having spent time in prison? Check

    High probability of having perpetrated or experienced domestic abuse? Check

    High probability of having no job and claiming social welfare, yet having unexplained sources of wealth when it comes to new vehicles, lavish wedding and First Communion celebrations, etc? Check

    History of violence / feuding / bare-knuckle fights with other Traveller families? Check

    Noted disregard for property, the environment, and animal welfare? Check

    Like it or not, the above are what make Travellers into Travellers in the eyes of the public. It has little or nothing to do with their ethnicity.


  • #94
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Redneck Culchie wrote: »
    What are Travellers unique religious customs compared to other Catholics? They attend the same masses as everyone else.


    Do you know any other people that burn the homes of the deceased? They have customs around mourning and the like.


  • #95
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,895 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Panch18 wrote: »
    Actually it’s seems that you can’t list anything - despite being repeatedly asked to do so you avoid answering what is requested of you

    I am not here to defend SEMS. I have accepted it, after reading the documentation and listening to the arguments. I posted The Taoiseach's address to the House and other info on it before.

    If you object to it, knock yourself out.


  • #96
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Unique language and religious customs I would say are the main things.

    They are catholic’s - the same as 80 or 90% of the population of this country

    As for separate language it’s a blend of Irish and English - a mashup


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  • #97
    fin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Anyway it will probably be a good thing in hindsight he didn’t win as President cause its going to be much more valuable to the country having him as Taoiseach.


  • #98
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Drink every time Francie says SEMS.


  • #99
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,895 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    fin12 wrote: »
    No he didn’t, he topped the polls in Rathkeale, Askeaton, and a few others, what r u talking about???

    Do you know what a 'constituency' is? :rolleyes:


  • #100
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Do you know what a 'constituency' is? :rolleyes:

    Do you know what the definition of a Traveller is? :rolleyes:


  • #101
    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    listermint wrote: »
    Why bother.

    If it's not obvious to you that its usually angry people angry about something that are the loudest then I suggest getting a job in a customer service department for a week.

    Everyone else is just out there living their lives beside their neighbours just getting on with it. Not being angry all the time.


    That's the exhausted middle. Not the 6 percent of twitter ranters

    Isnt the bit bolded in your post the whole point of the thread, everyone except the travellers are just living their lives beside their neighbours and getting on with it. They arent moaning about discrimination and looking for ethnic status, they are too busy working and paying bills and doing their best to get their children educated, they havent the time to be navel gazing about their ethnicity and nor do they have paid organisations like Pavee Point to indulge their whining.


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