The glorious 12th

McMurphy · 12-07-2019 7:10am

realdanbreen wrote: »

I see where there is a gigantic pile of pallets stacked up in an estate in Portadown which the fire service regard as a 'serious health and safety risk'. Apparently 30+ firms have been approached to remove/dismantle it but nobody will touch it. One things for certain if that was some years ago in a nationalist area the British army would be steaming in like a flash to dismantle it and anything else that was in its way.

If they were any way serious about removing it at all, they'd have the army in doing it.

Maybe if direct rule is implemented after Oct, one of the very first things the Brits will do is outlaw hate organisations such as the orange order, and ban bonfires and such that incite religious intolerance or hatred.

Can you imagine the English tolerating the same craic going on around Bradford or Birmingham by Islamic extremists where they burned effigies, spreading their hatred and threatening and menacing everyone and anyone who tried to interfere?

That would be some irony.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-07-2019 7:15am

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

If they were any way serious about removing it at all, they'd have the army in doing it.

Maybe if direct rule is implemented after Oct, one of the very first things the Brits will do is outlaw hate organisations such as the orange order, and ban bonfires and such that incite religious intolerance or hatred.

Can you imagine the English tolerating the same craic going on around Bradford or Birmingham by Islamic extremists where they burned effigies, spreading their hatred and threatening and menacing everyone and anyone who tried to interfere?

That would be some irony.

I doubt they will they don't care what happens in NI.

McMurphy · 12-07-2019 7:21am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I doubt they will they don't care what happens in NI.

To an extent - yeah, but they also don't hold any outdated romanticism thoughts on the place either.

Look at SSM, Abortion etc.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-07-2019 7:24am

NIMAN wrote: »

Unfortunately it's not just knack bags as you put it.

We have Reverends in the north who want these things built and defend the builders. Politicians too.

It's a real classless culture. Most normal people in the world, if you asked them what culture was, would talk about art, music, drama, poetry etc. But culture to some is building a huge bonfire wherever they want, threatening people if they talk about moving it, loading it with tyres to poison the air, putting property at risk, and putting photos of people on it to express your sectarianism and racism.

Yeah, that's culture NI style.

I've noticed this. They have no talent for anything else. You have to admit though they do this well.

One wonders if the Orange Order sucks up all the music talent there.

malinheader · 12-07-2019 7:28am

Seen yesterday 2000 tyres had been removed from one fire. This says everything about the crowd of knuckledraggers who build and organize these bonfires.
Saying that on a smaller scale the same happens on the 23rd of June in my area,used to be a religious day celebrated by small bonfires at night, but unfortunately now the knuckledraggers have taken that over and it's a night to burn your rubbish and use black oil and tyres for the black smoke affect. To which I may add the local council don't want to know.

whisky_galore · 12-07-2019 7:36am

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that at all, most folk just enjoy the yearly parade, I don't see anything wrong with marching bands and the playing of flutes?

I'd prefer to listen to that appliances ad with Deirdre O'Kane on loop than listen to a parade of fücking flute bands.

Edgware · 12-07-2019 8:00am

At least in the nationalist areas we have the delights of overweight dirtbirds with berets and sunglasses marching along out of step with a packet of John Player Blue and the Mirror in the arse pocket

gooch2k9 · 12-07-2019 8:17am

whisky_galore wrote: »

I'd prefer to listen to that appliances ad with Deirdre O'Kane on loop than listen to a parade of fücking flute bands.

Try going to bed with it coming in the windows at 11pm, then waking up with it coming in the windows at 7am. Take a break lads!

filbert the fox · 12-07-2019 8:35am

This morning an article about speeding penalty points and inability of the Gardai to enforce something as simple as motoring offences.
The current rate of TV licence evasion remains at a staggering 265,000 residents in this State, despite or as a result of cringe worthy radio advertising.

What chance of Mary Lou's all Ireland Government dealing with the Loyalist extremists? Presumably not by the previous method.

Or will the tolerant population of this island put up with anything?

There is a crisis in so many areas in the State as it is. I can't imagine what my tax rate would be if the North was to be under the "control" of Dail Eireann.

Let the Taxpayer in Britain pay ad infinitum.

J Mysterio · 12-07-2019 8:51am

Omackeral wrote: »

Here's one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_

So lovely to see our nation's flag set alight like that, amazing message to send to the children in attendance.

Totally bizarre. It really is pathetic to burn the Irish flag and takes the wind out of their sails by saying it's a 'cultural event' - a 'cultural event' where hate is at the core.

Crazy listening to the awful songs being played as well. All about WW1, WW2 etc. Pathetic. These guys are completely stuck in the past.

whisky_galore · 12-07-2019 8:56am

J Mysterio wrote: »

Totally bizarre. It really is pathetic to burn the Irish flag and takes the wind out of their sails by saying it's a 'cultural event' - a 'cultural event' where hate is at the core.

Crazy listening to the awful songs being played as well. All about WW1, WW2 etc. Pathetic. These guys are completely stuck in the past.

TBF I haven't heard a contemporary rebel song yet.

Omackeral · 12-07-2019 9:04am

whisky_galore wrote: »

I'd prefer to listen to that appliances ad with Deirdre O'Kane on loop than listen to a parade of fücking flute bands.

Jesus that's a huge claim. I'll just about agree with it. Just.

J Mysterio · 12-07-2019 9:09am

whisky_galore wrote: »

TBF I haven't heard a contemporary rebel song yet.

Look we can hear a rebel song from time to time in Ireland, no doubt. But I'm not aware of anything comparable to this, and certainly not as a cornerstone event on the calendar.

As far as I can make out, these lads have two big 'cultural events' and both antagonize the community:

1. Building massive, dangerous, environmentally unfriendly bonfires while burning Irish material and playing sectarian music

2. Military style Marching through areas where they disturb and disrupt their neighbours

ILoveYourVibes · 12-07-2019 9:15am

It's pure facism.

More often than not it's pure idiocy as well. Its a worship of 'hardman/hardwoman' culture.

Omackeral · 12-07-2019 9:22am

When the Confederate Flag isn't seen as the most controversial one, you've an issue.

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

It's pure facism.

More often than not it's pure idiocy as well.

Despite flying an actual Swastika, they fly the Israeli flag too. Absolute knuckle-dragging troglodytes.

lawred2 · 12-07-2019 9:24am

Imagine it being the center point of your year though. That's a seriously depressing outlook on life.

Such cowardice in the UK when it comes to dealing with what is quite clearly sectarian aggression.

gooch2k9 · 12-07-2019 9:28am

People get convictions for "hateful tweets" in England and Wales, but sure Northern Ireland can be no different from the rest of the UK!!

ILoveYourVibes · 12-07-2019 9:29am

Omackeral wrote: »

When the Confederate Flag isn't seen as the most controversial one, you've an issue.

Despite flying an actual Swastika, they fly the Israeli flag too. Absolute knuckle-dragging troglodytes.

I know. Its because nationalists fly Palestinian flags or else nationalists fly Palestinian flags just because unionists fly Israeli flags.

The only thing that unites them is that both of those idiots hate jews and muslims if they are honest.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-07-2019 9:31am

gooch2k9 wrote: »

People get convictions for "hateful tweets" in England and Wales, but sure Northern Ireland can be no different from the rest of the UK!!

They can fly ****ing swastikas and the confederate flag then set huge constructions on fire ...

Stupid little kids who think they are tough.

malinheader · 12-07-2019 9:34am

Omackeral wrote: »

When the Confederate Flag isn't seen as the most controversial one, you've an issue.

Despite flying an actual Swastika, they fly the Israeli flag too. Absolute knuckle-dragging troglodytes.

Paratroopers regiment flags flying in certain parts of Derry too.
It's not a celebration, it's a ploy to try and incite violence and hate.

gooch2k9 · 12-07-2019 9:37am

malinheader wrote: »

Paratroopers regiment flags flying in certain parts of Derry too.
It's not a celebration, it's a ploy to try and incite violence and hate.

Derry, Portadown, Antrim, Belfast etc. Along with the 'we support soldier F' banners hung on town main streets whilst the PSNI stand by watching.

Disgusting carry on.

12-07-2019 9:40am

You ask most of these idiots why they are lighting a bonfire on that particular day and they'd shrug and mutter "eh... culture"

munsterlegend · 12-07-2019 9:41am

gooch2k9 wrote: »

Derry, Portadown, Antrim, Belfast etc. Along with the 'we support soldier F' banners hung on town main streets whilst the PSNI stand by watching.

Disgusting carry on.

Those parachute flags are in a lot of Unionist towns and areas. Like everything up there it’s just to incite. Only a bigot could justify what soldier ‘f’ did but that’s the north in a nutshell.

Edgware · 12-07-2019 9:43am

gooch2k9 wrote: »

Derry, Portadown, Antrim, Belfast etc. Along with the 'we support soldier F' banners hung on town main streets whilst the PSNI stand by watching.

Disgusting carry on.

More "peace walls" than during the troubles, main political parties not talking to each other,
One crowd adamant that its great to leave the E.U. even though the majority want to stay.
An open air lunatic asylum

McMurphy · 12-07-2019 9:44am

Edgware wrote: »

At least in the nationalist areas we have the delights of overweight dirtbirds with berets and sunglasses marching along out of step with a packet of John Player Blue and the Mirror in the arse pocket

Tbf, the pictures I see of some of the yokes around Portadown and Harryville with the spare tyres (not they ones on the fire) missing teeth and union jack dresses will win no pagents either.

Edgware · 12-07-2019 9:55am

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Tbf, the pictures I see of some of the yokes around Portadown and Harryville with the spare tyres (not they ones on the fire) missing teeth and union jack dresses will win no pagents either.

Agreed. I saw a few Union Jackies at a march in Benidorm one time. 20 stone Bessies in their Union Jack and Rangers mini skirts. Frightening!

arybvtcw0eolkf · 12-07-2019 9:59am

I was in Belfast for the first time only last week, we'd intended staying three nights but couldn't wait to get out of the kip and checked out of the hotel and made a dash for the border on the second evening.

The flags didn't bother me, Union Jack and Parachute flags everywhere. Tbh their sh*t isn't mine and I let that crap go over my head.

Done the tourist thing and took the hop on, hop off tour bus and learned a few things, Belfast is a sh*t hole, that the Prince of Wales avenue to Stormont is called the 'POW's Avenue, that the people I met in the SF shop on the Falls Road (at the Bobby Sands mural) were lovely until I asked I mentioned I was taking the bus to the Shankill Road, then the lady looked at me like she wanted to knee cap me.

Got on the bus (great guides btw) and was going to get off on the Shankill when the guide advised me not to!.. You're from Dublin, they've orange fever this week. Its not safe for you.. Ok I stayed on the bus.

Mentioned this to the staff in the hotel, yea don't go near there with your Dublin accent. You'll find yourself in a lot of trouble.

Thinking they meant that people would just be rude to me I asked a taxi man, and even a doctor (I was up on a medical appointment) and told them I don't mind telling someone to fvck off if they're annoying me.

The doctor told me that I could be lucky and meet some lovely people on the Shankill but that I'd more likely meet someone who'd be very unpleasant or I might find a phone call would be made and a few lads would be down to sort us out!!.

Fvck that sh*t!.

Found it strange that in conversation everyone very soon let me know if they were Catholic or Protestant, weird to me because I coudn't give a sh*t.

The pubs were sh*t holes too, although Kellys Cellars serve the best stew I've ever had.

Plumbthedepths · 12-07-2019 10:05am

Giovanni Low Quintuplet wrote:

I was in Belfast for the first time only last week, we'd intended staying three nights but couldn't wait to get out of the kip and checked out of the hotel and made a dash for the border on the second evening.

I guess we all have different experiences, I'm well into my 40's and have been travelling to NI since I was a nipper . Father's family is from Lifford and Strabane. Never experienced anything like what you did even during the height of the 'Troubles' and I have been there different times of the year and all over the province including Belfast and Derry. I've found NI people to be genuine and lovely, although like everywhere there is a vocal cohort of pr*icks.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 12-07-2019 10:12am

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I guess we all have different experiences, I'm well into my 40's and have been travelling to NI since I was a nipper . Father's family is from Lifford and Strabane. Never experienced anything like what you did even during the height of the 'Troubles' and I have been there different times of the year and all over the province including Belfast and Derry. I've found NI people to be genuine and lovely, although like everywhere there is a vocal cohort of pr*icks.

You're welcome to it pal, 'tis not a place for me tho

timthumbni · 12-07-2019 10:17am

Just to clarify that the bonfires on the 11th (or 10th nights in one case) are not normally anything to do with the OO. Also the majority of people who will attend the 12th parades today will not have attended the bonfires the night before.

Burning flags is silly on either side though not going to ruin my day either. It has to be remembered that for many here the Irish tricolour is and was associated with the IRA. Sure you still have people on here who still blab on about the union flag as the butchers apron etc. They shouldn’t be burned but in the grand scheme of things and certainly compared to the murder of a journalist recently it’s no biggie.

Regarding the 12th parades themselves they are fun family day outs. Now for those who are anti unionist or don’t like the sight of union flags, NI red hands etc etc then it’s obviously not going to be your bag. Like I wouldn’t feel comfortable going to st paddy’s day in Belfast for example. But that’s life. I just don’t go. The disruption is very temporary so wouldn’t bother me.

The parades in the country especially are very gentle affairs. Hard to get offended by an accordion band of young girls. (Well, unless you are a Tyrone gaa player by the looks of it)

The keyboard republican circle jerk of anti unionism on here is a sight to read sometimes. Some highlights include suggesting sterilisation and others calling in the army. I’m sure the 12th July and the 11th November are their most fun times of the year. Probably buy a new keyboard for each date.

Anyway I can hear pipe bands in the distance. (The horror.... the horror)

topper75 · 12-07-2019 10:23am

J Mysterio wrote: »

... songs being played as well. All about WW1, WW2 etc. ...

Omackeral wrote: »

Please help a simple fella understand here folks.

FrancieBrady · 12-07-2019 10:27am

Giovanni Low Quintuplet wrote: »

I was in Belfast for the first time only last week, we'd intended staying three nights but couldn't wait to get out of the kip and checked out of the hotel and made a dash for the border on the second evening.

The flags didn't bother me, Union Jack and Parachute flags everywhere. Tbh their sh*t isn't mine and I let that crap go over my head.

Done the tourist thing and took the hop on, hop off tour bus and learned a few things, Belfast is a sh*t hole, that the Prince of Wales avenue to Stormont is called the 'POW's Avenue, that the people I met in the SF shop on the Falls Road (at the Bobby Sands mural) were lovely until I asked I mentioned I was taking the bus to the Shankill Road, then the lady looked at me like she wanted to knee cap me.

Got on the bus (great guides btw) and was going to get off on the Shankill when the guide advised me not to!.. You're from Dublin, they've orange fever this week. Its not safe for you.. Ok I stayed on the bus.

Mentioned this to the staff in the hotel, yea don't go near there with your Dublin accent. You'll find yourself in a lot of trouble.

Thinking they meant that people would just be rude to me I asked a taxi man, and even a doctor (I was up on a medical appointment) and told them I don't mind telling someone to fvck off if they're annoying me.

The doctor told me that I could be lucky and meet some lovely people on the Shankill but that I'd more likely meet someone who'd be very unpleasant or I might find a phone call would be made and a few lads would be down to sort us out!!.

Fvck that sh*t!.

Found it strange that in conversation everyone very soon let me know if they were Catholic or Protestant, weird to me because I coudn't give a sh*t.

The pubs were sh*t holes too, although Kellys Cellars serve the best stew I've ever had.

If you took the tour of the 'conflict' zones what exactly were you expecting? :rolleyes:

Some of the pubs in Belfast are among the best in the country. I could visit a few in Dublin and make the same 'The pubs were sh*tholes' generalisation too.

Good lord, your post is a classic. Too funny.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 12-07-2019 10:38am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If you took the tour of the 'conflict' zones what exactly were you expecting? :rolleyes:

Some of the pubs in Belfast are among the best in the country. I could visit a few in Dublin and make the same 'The pubs were sh*tholes' generalisation too.

Good lord, your post is a classic. Too funny.

I went with no real expectations tbh.

I was surprised at the difference between the Falls and the Shankill. Like I said the Falls was really nice and we probably spent close to an hour on it taking photos, visiting the garden of remembrance etc.

I was actually shocked at how dirty, unwelcoming and menacing the Skankill is, when I mentioned this to one taxi man he said ''If you didn't feeling that on the Shankill the fvckers weren't doing their job''.

I'm a great walker and would walk for hours, so I took myself off on a walk the first evening. Found a local bar and ordered a beer 'What are you doing in here?'.. I left and got a taxi 'Wellington Hotel on the Malone Road please'.. 'What are you doing here fella?' [I got the fook outta dodge, THAT sh*t doesn't happen down here]

The womens accents are sexy

***I've just been reminded we actually stayed two nights out of the intended three

malinheader · 12-07-2019 10:40am

topper75 wrote: »

Please help a simple fella understand here folks.

They don't understand themselves. Bigoted knuckledraggers the whole lot of them

FrancieBrady · 12-07-2019 10:46am

Giovanni Low Quintuplet wrote: »

I went with no real expectations tbh.

I was surprised at the difference between the Falls and the Shankill. Like I said the Falls was really nice and we probably spent close to an hour on it taking photos, visiting the garden of remembrance etc.

I was actually shocked at how dirty, unwelcoming and menacing the Skankill is, when I mentioned this to one taxi man he said ''If you didn't feeling that on the Shankill the fvckers weren't doing their job''.

I'm a great walker and would walk for hours, so I took myself off on a walk the first evening. Found a local bar and ordered a beer 'What are you doing in here?'.. I left and got a taxi 'Wellington Hotel on the Malone Road please'.. 'What are you doing here fella?' [I got the fook outta dodge, THAT sh*t doesn't happen down here]

The womens accents are sexy

If that is in anyway a common or general experience of Belfast it is remarkable that it has a tourist business at all. We will weekend in Belfast and go there many times in the year for many many years, even during the conflict/war, and I have never been asked 'What are you doing here fella?'.

You are remarkable to have experienced the 'cliched' Belfast on your first trip. Well done fella!

super_furry · 12-07-2019 10:46am

They are, as a group, people who define themselves by what they hate. Therefore if the people they hate support something, they will automatically support the opposite - hence the Israel flags alongside swastikas.

biko · 12-07-2019 10:49am

citytillidie · 12-07-2019 10:51am

timthumbni wrote: »

Just to clarify that the bonfires on the 11th (or 10th nights in one case) are not normally anything to do with the OO. Also the majority of people who will attend the 12th parades today will not have attended the bonfires the night before.

Burning flags is silly on either side though not going to ruin my day either. It has to be remembered that for many here the Irish tricolour is and was associated with the IRA. Sure you still have people on here who still blab on about the union flag as the butchers apron etc. They shouldn’t be burned but in the grand scheme of things and certainly compared to the murder of a journalist recently it’s no biggie.

Regarding the 12th parades themselves they are fun family day outs. Now for those who are anti unionist or don’t like the sight of union flags, NI red hands etc etc then it’s obviously not going to be your bag. Like I wouldn’t feel comfortable going to st paddy’s day in Belfast for example. But that’s life. I just don’t go. The disruption is very temporary so wouldn’t bother me.

The parades in the country especially are very gentle affairs. Hard to get offended by an accordion band of young girls. (Well, unless you are a Tyrone gaa player by the looks of it)

The keyboard republican circle jerk of anti unionism on here is a sight to read sometimes. Some highlights include suggesting sterilisation and others calling in the army. I’m sure the 12th July and the 11th November are their most fun times of the year. Probably buy a new keyboard for each date.

Anyway I can hear pipe bands in the distance. (The horror.... the horror)

All until they can’t get what they want and march in areas they are not welcome then it turns far from a family day out.

If they OO are not part of the 11th why have they appealed before for tyres not to be burned at them?

They are all tied together.

Hector Savage · 12-07-2019 11:03am

Omackeral wrote: »

Here's one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dUhdCG8BII

So lovely to see our nation's flag set alight like that, amazing message to send to the children in attendance.

Christ, such bigots, reminds me of that scene in Trainspotting 2.

Hector Savage · 12-07-2019 11:05am

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

I believe they remove the Union Jacks prior to combustion, but replace them with the flag of the dastardly Ivory Coast.

Take that Côte d'Ivoire!

Poor Ivory Coast, they get a bad rep every year on (Nordy accent) DE TWELFTH!

El Weirdo · 12-07-2019 11:06am

Giovanni Low Quintuplet wrote: »

I went with no real expectations tbh.

I was surprised at the difference between the Falls and the Shankill. Like I said the Falls was really nice and we probably spent close to an hour on it taking photos, visiting the garden of remembrance etc.

I was actually shocked at how dirty, unwelcoming and menacing the Skankill is, when I mentioned this to one taxi man he said ''If you didn't feeling that on the Shankill the fvckers weren't doing their job''.

I'm a great walker and would walk for hours, so I took myself off on a walk the first evening. Found a local bar and ordered a beer 'What are you doing in here?'.. I left and got a taxi 'Wellington Hotel on the Malone Road please'.. 'What are you doing here fella?' [I got the fook outta dodge, THAT sh*t doesn't happen down here]

The womens accents are sexy

***I've just been reminded we actually stayed two nights out of the intended three

Stayed in the exact same hotel last year and had a great time. It's just across from Queens and so is in a very neutral part of the city. Walked into and out of town a few times popping into a few pubs on the way and had absolutely zero issues.

Took a tour of the Shankill road and loyalist areas with a Linfield supporting taxi driver and again, had zero issues and felt entirely comfortable. Very nice guy who was happy to explain things from a loyalist perspective.

Also did the hop-on-hop-off bus tour and wasn't worried about hanging around waiting for the next bus wherever we stopped.

It's a great city, and I would encourage anyone to go and visit.

cgcsb · 12-07-2019 11:07am

Hamsterchops wrote: »

The PSNI applies Best Practice to all its affairs with the public, they are also bound by the Ombudsmans office to be totally impartial. If the PSNI/ Chief constable did not comply, be assured they would be outed and publicly repremanded.

So why don't they apply the law to loyalists? I see today the PSNI have also waved Northern Ireland's strict public drinking laws, funny that.

Dublin Spur · 12-07-2019 11:08am

backward bitter small minded animals

cgcsb · 12-07-2019 11:09am

janfebmar wrote: »

The IRA March of a few months ago in O'Connell st., far more intimidating.

It was a few seconds long, and went largely unnoticed other than it appeared in the journal.

J Mysterio · 12-07-2019 11:09am

Hector Savage wrote: »

Christ, such bigots, reminds me of that scene in Trainspotting 2.

Trainspotting 2 was completely forgettable other than that scene - absolutely hilarious.

McMurphy · 12-07-2019 11:17am

Great bunch of lads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwYFt1AUxHA

facehugger99 · 12-07-2019 11:18am

Giovanni Low Quintuplet wrote: »

I was in Belfast for the first time only last week, we'd intended staying three nights but couldn't wait to get out of the kip and checked out of the hotel and made a dash for the border on the second evening.

The flags didn't bother me, Union Jack and Parachute flags everywhere. Tbh their sh*t isn't mine and I let that crap go over my head.

Done the tourist thing and took the hop on, hop off tour bus and learned a few things, Belfast is a sh*t hole, that the Prince of Wales avenue to Stormont is called the 'POW's Avenue, that the people I met in the SF shop on the Falls Road (at the Bobby Sands mural) were lovely until I asked I mentioned I was taking the bus to the Shankill Road, then the lady looked at me like she wanted to knee cap me.

Got on the bus (great guides btw) and was going to get off on the Shankill when the guide advised me not to!.. You're from Dublin, they've orange fever this week. Its not safe for you.. Ok I stayed on the bus.

Mentioned this to the staff in the hotel, yea don't go near there with your Dublin accent. You'll find yourself in a lot of trouble.

Thinking they meant that people would just be rude to me I asked a taxi man, and even a doctor (I was up on a medical appointment) and told them I don't mind telling someone to fvck off if they're annoying me.

The doctor told me that I could be lucky and meet some lovely people on the Shankill but that I'd more likely meet someone who'd be very unpleasant or I might find a phone call would be made and a few lads would be down to sort us out!!.

Fvck that sh*t!.

Found it strange that in conversation everyone very soon let me know if they were Catholic or Protestant, weird to me because I coudn't give a sh*t.

The pubs were sh*t holes too, although Kellys Cellars serve the best stew I've ever had.

Worked there for years and never had anything similar happen to me than the numerous incidents you had in 2 days.

It sounds like you went looking for trouble though - the SF shop, Shankill - why FFS?

Dublin Spur · 12-07-2019 11:18am

I go to Belfast for gigs - the city center is a nice friendly place
I think the suburbs are a different story though

Strumms · 12-07-2019 11:22am

Noveight wrote: »

Looking at tonight’s events on social media would reaffirm the idea that we are better off without the North for another few generations.

You’d rather they be a pain in the UK’s arse than ours.

Completely, I doubt too, the politicians, Gardai/Army wouldn’t want that either... the pain of having to deal with these attitudes.

timthumbni · 12-07-2019 11:22am

cgcsb wrote: »

I see today the PSNI have also waved Northern Ireland's strict public drinking laws, funny that.

Where did you see this? The police will use discretion in these areas and not just on the 12th July. Ffs the holylands on st paddy’s day is like a scene from day of the dead only on buckfast. Loads of Tyrone culchie students singing songs about the ra. Taking after their County players obviously.

This law is broken regularly, especially in holiday towns etc. I regularly meet cops going past whilst I have a beer in hand. The police in general don’t mind unless you are acting the dick. But I suspect that you know that.

In saying that I wonder does my orange collarette perhaps give me some kind of immunity. You might be on to something here.

The glorious 12th

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