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Severe Winter Weather, Snow/Ice - Sun 25th Feb (Onwards) ** READ MOD NOTE POST #1 **

  • 23-02-2018 9:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog



    MOD NOTE

    This is a busy thread and as a result the Mod Team will be taking a zero Tolerance approach to trolling, flaming and personal abuse.

    Don’t say you weren’t warned!!

    And please don’t feed - report & let the Mod team deal with Troublesome Posters/Trolls


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    Severe Weather Advisory **UPDATED 25/02/2018**

    An unusual winter weather event is heading for Ireland, the UK and continental Europe from the east for next week.

    Hazards:
    • Snow
    • Ice
    • Frost
    • Low Temperature


      Current advisory level from Met reann: Yellow

      Potential warnings: Orange/Red


      • Turning progressively colder over the weekend and in to Monday

      • Significantly colder from Tuesday and for the rest of the week.
      • All areas are at risk of some harsh cold conditions (ice, frost, low temperatures, snowfalls) at various times.


      icon4.png There is a significant risk of transport and other disruption next week. Eastern and southern counties are most at risk.


      Sunday/Monday

      Feeling increasingly cold and raw in brisk southeast winds. Mainly dry, some light snow showers on south and east coasts later. Skies mostly clear.

      Top temperatures on Sunday 3 to 7c (coldest in the east), Monday 1 to 4c (coldest in the east)


      Tuesday

      Increasingly frequent and heavy snow showers effecting eastern counties (these may fall as rain, hail or sleet in the morning/early afternoon). The snow accumulating by evening. Mainly dry elsewhere. A little milder than Monday in parts.

      Snow showers frequent and becoming more widespread overnight as winds turn more ENE. Further accumulations. Disruption likely Wednesday morning.

      Raw. Top temperatures 0 to 6c (coldest in the east)


      Wednesday --> Thursday

      Progressively colder. Projected temperatures on Wednesday -2 to 0c (coldest in the east and north), Thursday -3 to -1c (coldest in the east).

      Widespread heavy snow showers (with an increasing risk of thunderstorms in coastal counties) or longer periods of more organised snow most frequent in the east and southeast with further widespread accumulations. Disruption is highly likely.


      Friday/Saturday

      For Friday and the weekend winds will be increasing and it will feel very raw with temperatures likely to remain close to or below freezing. Winds should remain easterly or north easterly. There is potential for a major snow event through this period as the deep cold air tries to hold on under assault from southern weather systems. Further significant accumulations and disruption are possible at this point.

      The likelihood of very significant and highly disruptive snowfall for Friday/Saturday has increased. Make sure to keep up to date with the forecast.

      tempresult_mbn7.gif

      Night

      Night time temperatures on Sunday and Monday will range 0 to -3c and 0 to -5c respectively with sharp to severe frosts.

      Tuesday night -1 to -6c (coldest in the western half)

      Wednesday to Friday nights: 0 to -9c (coldest in the west where winds will be lightest and colder over any snow fields)

      Projected windchill:

      -8 to -15c


      Please keep up to date with the model discussion thread and excellent posts here for more in depth detail.

      https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057844498

      This forecast is the most accurate assessment of the model data available to us as of today, therefore it is subject to change somewhat. You should make preparations in anticipation of some disruption.

      I'll keep the OP updated.


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    Comments

    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Bio Mech


      Sounds epic


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


      Excellent post Kermit,hoping for some of the snow action in the rebel county!


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


      This chart shows the air mass coming toward Ireland from around 1,500 meters up (this is used because it is far easier to define air mass at altitude rather than the surface which is subject to geographical considerations).

      tempresult_bfb5.gif


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭White Clover


      This is going to be a disaster from a farming point of view. Hardship on man and beast after an already very challenging previous 7 months.


    • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


      That 12Z does look ghostly. The UK will be mayhem.


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    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


      Definitely looking like it could be one to remember, strange to see bodies like ME jumping on the bandwagon so soon!


    • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭MissMoc


      Sounding like the midlands will not get much disruption of have I misread this?


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


      JCX BXC wrote: »
      Definitely looking like it could be one to remember, strange to see bodies like ME jumping on the bandwagon so soon!

      Strange but great in equal measure! :-P


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,996 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


      Cheers Kermit.

      Now where is Rougies gif of you typing out that report on the previous thread. That was hilarious. I hope you laughed yourself!

      We are in the Chat thread right?


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


      Kermit, thank goodness you're ok. The level of concern for you and your whereabouts caused the previous thread to become locked :D


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    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Soccarboy11


      really looking forward to seeing all the posts from people in the UK/Ireland with their snow and reports on the cold etc. Cant wait! :)


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


      Sub -8 uppers from Monday afternoon solidly through. No reason why anything from lunchtime onwards that falls out of the sky in Leinster won't be snow.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭dacogawa


      Thanks Kermit, this is going to be a very special event, take a bow!

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    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭sjb25


      Kermit rolls back in :)

      442658.jpeg


    • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


      :eek::eek::eek:
      1. Well it looks like we are set for quite the cold spell This forum gets extremely busy during these weather events and for the most parts the thread are really enjoyable and you will garner lots of knowledge. Although before you start posting we would like to summarise a few house rules here :
      2. During weather events we take zero tolerance approach to trolling or bickering. Cards, warnings and/or bans from the forum will be handed out as appropriate. It gets so busy that this is the only option we have.
      3. Please don't quote images or charts in your replies.
      4. If you feel someone is trying to cause trouble, please use the Report Post function and let the Mod Team deal with it. Don't respond/react on-thread and further derail it.
      5. PLEASE don't repeatedly ask will it snow in your backyard - read the thread.
      6. If you post pictures that are not your own from Facebook or Twitter, you must follow these guidelines:
      7. All Images taken from Twitter must always be embedded using the URL as in this example https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/show...postcount=1039
      8. You cannot copy and paste images from Twitter and post them on Boards.ie.
      9. With Facebook, you need the creator's permission to copy an image belonging to them and post it on Boards.ie.
      10. You must also credit the creator of the image if you do get permission
      There are a few threads in operation for this event
      The Main Discussion thread for the event
      https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057844792
      The Technical Discussion Thread ( Please don't post in here if you’re looking to tell us its snowing or you want to know will it snow in your back yard )
      https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/show...p?t=2057844498
      The FI Thread ( This is usually for charts that are 120 hours or more away )Although a lot of these charts will probably end up in the technical discussion thread anyway
      https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/show...p?t=2057782713
      This thread below is a great resource for finding out where all the weather charts we use coming from and what they mean
      https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/show...p?t=2056531638
      And last but not least and perhaps the most important Our resident boards.ie forecaster MT's thread can be located in the link below
      https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/show...79971&page=119
      PLEASE FAMILIARISE YOURSELF WITH THE FORUM RULES IN THIS LINK https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/show...p?t=2056531690


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


      This chart shows the air mass coming toward Ireland from around 1,500 meters up (this is used because it is far easier to define air mass at altitude rather than the surface which is subject to geographical considerations).

      tempresult_bfb5.gif




    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


      Can I suggest as well, if you are going to post a live report of conditions give at least county and perhaps an idea of altitude (change profile description to avoid having to repeat)

      And also for the sake of the servers, don't spam F5. Refreshing every 5 minutes instead of every 2 minutes won't kill anyone but will reduce the load on the servers by 60% as a mundane example.


    • Registered Users Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


      Superb day 7 mean from the ECM -

      EDM1-168.GIF?23-0


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


      Thanks for the post. How will the north-west fair in terms of snow?


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,996 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


      My sister is making a long journey home due to land in Dublin on Tuesday about 2pm.

      Anyone care to make a prediction as to whether DUB airport will cope!

      I've alerted her and she is glad I told her that there could possibly be problems.


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    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


      Severe Weather Advisory

      An unusual winter weather event is heading for Ireland, the UK and continental Europe from the east for next week.

      Hazards:
      • Snow
      • Ice
      • Frost
      • Low Temperature


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      • Registered Users Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


        Extended UKMO, check the top right of the frame, there's our potential Blizzard doing it's thing.

        ukm2.2018030212_168_lant.troplant_prp_fcst.gentracker.png.8027ff3e7b383d44d26ae73f50358559.png


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


        My sister is making a long journey home due to land in Dublin on Tuesday about 2pm.

        Anyone care to make a prediction as to whether DUB airport will cope!

        I've alerted her and she is glad I told her that there could possibly be problems.

        If there has been any more than a couple of cm of snow at that stage - which is likely - there is about a 50/50 chance of the runway being open in between clearings.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


        sdanseo wrote: »
        Can I suggest as well, if you are going to post a live report of conditions give at least county and perhaps an idea of altitude (change profile description to avoid having to repeat)

        If people could post it it would be handier, I use mobile most of the time and cannot see what people have in their profile.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


        This is going to be a disaster from a farming point of view. Hardship on man and beast after an already very challenging previous 7 months.


        And during lambing season too! New grass growth will be halted temporarily while there is a fodder crisis.


      • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Daniel2590


        Everyone make sure the nearest lamppost outside your window is turned on! :pac:


      • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


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      • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


        Oh the joys of having a work from home option!! :D


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt




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      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


        Handy calculator here to show the effects of windchill

        https://www.weather.gov/epz/wxcalc_windchill


      • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


        And during lambing season too! New grass growth will be halted temporarily while there is a fodder crisis.

        Yes, there is going to be a major crisis in the agricultural sector the longer this goes on.
        The good thing about the snow is it will give protection to the grass from being burnt by the frost.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭Saganist


        Guys... Even with all the excitement in the run up to next week, please don't forget to check on vulnerable and elderly family, neighbors and friends.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


        Daniel2590 wrote: »
        Everyone make sure the nearest lamppost outside your window is turned on! :pac:

        Surely you won't need it in the South or East?


      • Registered Users Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Snowbiee21


        I would like to give my appreciation to all the model onlookers for this cold spell( especially Kermit de frog , JCX BXC and Blizzard 7 and to anyone else who contributed over the last two weeks or so , it’s been a nailbiting past few days, enjoy the cold spell lads. Also make sure elderly are fully equipped on their basic needs and make sure pets like dogs come indoors, as the extreme cold makes landfall on our shores next week.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


        Oh the joys of having a work from home option!! :D

        I've always loathed people who can do that :(

        Is there a limit to how many days a week/month people can do this, generally? Where is the line between convenience and taking the piss? Granted next week many people physically won't be able to get to work.


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      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


        Just one thing to note on the Met Eireann advisory, as a few people have made the comment to me "it's only yellow", ALL weather advisories are yellow as they are well in advance of the event.

        So if anyone says Met Eireann are only at yellow, the colour is not relevant all advisories are yellow, the text contained in that advisory though is relevant and important:
        Exceptionally cold weather is forecast for next week with significant wind chill and severe frosts. Disruptive snow showers are expected from Tuesday onwards, particularly in the east and southeast.

        As Kermit mentioned we are likely to see Orange and possibly Red warnings in the coming days.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


        RobertKK wrote: »
        Yes, there is going to be a major crisis in the agricultural sector the longer this goes on.
        The good thing about the snow is it will give protection to the grass from being burnt by the frost.

        So the west will suffer from the lack of snow, with frost under clear skies, is there any justice?


      • Registered Users Posts: 769 ✭✭✭davidsr20


        Guys no mention at all of the west or midlands in the forecast. Shall we be sunbathing?


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,996 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


        sdanseo wrote: »
        If there has been any more than a couple of cm of snow at that stage - which is likely - there is about a 50/50 chance of the runway being open in between clearings.

        Luck of the draw so I reckon. Thanks.


      • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


        So the west will suffer from the lack of snow, with frost under clear skies, is there any justice?

        My guess would be the whole country eventually gets snow as it is more than likely a prolonged event.


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      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


        davidsr20 wrote: »
        Guys no mention at all of the west or midlands in the forecast. Shall we be sunbathing?

        Yup. The sun tan this week will come with free hypothermia.


      • Subscribers Posts: 8,322 ✭✭✭Scubadevils


        Posting in here before my inevitable 'snowing in Lusk' post in a few days time... only get to say that every few years :pac:


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,996 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


        Sorry, I hope this is within the charter, but could someone far more techy than me re post the Gif of Kermit typing his report on that typewriter? Was on the previous thread that was closed.

        If you can, I hope the real Kermit forecaster doesn't mind.

        But I understand if it is not allowed.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


        davidsr20 wrote: »
        Guys no mention at all of the west or midlands in the forecast. Shall we be sunbathing?

        https://m.facebook.com/MidlandWeatherChannel/


      • Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭barney 20v


        Surely you won't need it in the South or East?

        Wexford for the win !


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


        So the west will suffer from the lack of snow, with frost under clear skies, is there any justice?
        I'm confused about something actually!
        Back in 2010 we got down to -13-14 or possibly lower. I was told it was colder due to the snow fields.
        Now I'm reading it could be coldest in the West later in the week due to clear skies but no snow??????


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


        km79 wrote: »
        I'm confused about something actually!
        Back in 2010 we got down to -13-14 or possibly lower. I was told it was colder due to the snow fields.
        Now I'm reading it could be coldest in the West later in the week due to clear skies but no snow??????

        Both are condusive to creating colder temperatures.probably not as cold as 2010 given there won't be any snowfields and we are into early spring.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


        km79 wrote: »
        I'm confused about something actually!
        Back in 2010 we got down to -13-14 or possibly lower. I was told it was colder due to the snow fields.
        Now I'm reading it could be coldest in the West later in the week due to clear skies but no snow??????
        Wind will be stronger in the east . But more got to do with the fact the east could be under snow clouds for most of the week.


      • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭MissMoc


        I presumed this thread would be going crazy now but it seems fairly quiet given the number of members


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,355 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34



        Anyone care to make a prediction as to whether DUB airport will cope!

        It won't, for several reasons. They don't have the amount of ploughs and blowers to deal with this, they will be overwhelmed all over the airfield. Even if they did, they haven't enough de-icing rigs to keep the planes remotely on schedule. Also, Dublin's most frequent traffic is to/from the UK and northern Europe, those locations will be fecked as well, even by their own standards,so aircraft will not be where they are supposed to be.

        IMO, from Wednesday on, air travel should be written off until further notice.


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