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New, unregistered Irish-bought car from 1976 - where do I start?

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  • #52
    carchaeologist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    macplaxton wrote: »
    Long time, no post there Dave! :D

    Nice of you to drop in and post that. Excuse me while I pop down to the shops for a Caramac.

    It’s been awhile, years infant, moderatorships revoked and all . Nice to see some familiar names still here.
    Looking forward to pics of the OPs car. Stuff like that is always intriguing.


  • #53
    Markcheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,566 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I assume the tyres will be shot , the brakes probably seized ,and maybe a few rubber items under the bonnet perished, but other than that it should be more or less perfect ?? , I mean under cloths in a dry shed ,so completely away from rain and sun , and presumably put away before it had any chance to start rusting or corroding ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • #54
    alfa beta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    apologies everyone for delay in posting pics - life tends to get in the way of the best laid plans! - will have some up here by Tuesday evening though :-)


  • #55
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    alfa beta wrote: »
    apologies everyone for delay in posting pics - life tends to get in the way of the best laid plans! - will have some up here by Tuesday evening though :-)

    I'm sitting here staring at this thread refreshing every few minutes since 6 o'clock. Still nothing I'm not angry Alfa beta, I'm just disappointed.


  • #56
    steam iron
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭steam iron


    Me too


  • #57
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    :pac:


  • #58
    kaizersoze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    Dear God! This alfa beta lad is a marketing genius. The car will be worth a fortune with all the hype this thread is generating.:pac:
    There'll be lads fighting over it.:D:D

    Reminds me of the old 'Big ED loves Mona' ad campaign.


  • #59
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,461 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I think he is having us on.


  • #60
    con747
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    How long does it take to walk out to your shed with a camera.............

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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  • #61
    greencoat
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭greencoat


    mickdw wrote: »
    I think he is having us on.[/Q

    follow thread


  • #62
    con747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,948 ✭✭✭con747


    If I had that motor in my shed it would take 5 minutes to post pictures, either put the pictures up or stop posting about the car.

    MOD NOTE: Well you don't. The OP can post pictures / info about their car in their own time. If you've something useful to contribute please do, but if you haven't, scroll on past.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • #63
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    10/10. Well done OP.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #64
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Jesus lads dramatise much?

    Give the OP a chance. I'm sure he has other things going on in his life rather than upload pictures to satisfy a few posters on boards.


  • #65
    greencoat
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭greencoat


    con747 wrote: »
    If I had that motor in my shed it would take 5 minutes to post pictures, either put the pictures up or stop posting about the car.

    "yes sir right away"...pmsl.mellow out


  • #66
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    It's not in his shed. It's in his mother's I think. And buried down the back.


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  • #67
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    OP's got a life. How inconsiderate of him.

    But seriously OP get clicky clicky :D


  • #68
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maybe he got some PMs or offers or something.


  • #69
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Gone very quiet around here :p


  • #70
    richardsheil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭richardsheil


    Car has disappeared in a cloud of smoke.

    Non existent


  • #71
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    richardsheil wrote: »
    Car has disappeared in a cloud of smoke.

    Non existent


    Had to search his posting history... WHAT!? The options there. :o


    Anyway, think a track from side B of A COLLECTION OF BEATLES OLDIES might explain all this. :)


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  • #72
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    Lads please stop posting. Everytime I get an e mail about this thread I get excited thinking it's the pics we were promised last Tuesday between 6pm and midnight:pac:

    If I had to guess I'd say the op is uncomfortable just going out and taking pictures of the car in his mother's shed as it's possible an inheritance issue with the passing of his father and there's a bit of trouble with siblings making it not so easy. I do believe the car exists. I may be way off but that's just my thought on the matter.


  • #73
    jozi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭jozi


    Custard test?


  • #74
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    jozi wrote: »
    Custard test?

    Who has a tin of custard these days? Maybe a bisto test? Everyone has bisto right?


  • #75
    loyatemu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,104 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Had to search his posting history... WHAT!? The options there. :o


    Anyway, think a track from side B of A COLLECTION OF BEATLES OLDIES might explain all this. :)

    Bad Boy?
    of Paperback Writer?


  • #76
    MercMad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    As mentioned the duty will have been paid otherwise he would never have been able to drive it away. Clearly it wasnt ever taxed, and therefore unregistered, but it wont be liable for VRT if duty was paid.

    I had 2 similar situations in recent years, one car came from the US pre 1993 and duties etc. were all.paid but never taxed or registered. A letter from Revenue confirmed all was in order and nothing was owed. We were told a standard VRT appointment was all that was rewuired to get a ZV number however I sold the car on eBay so never followed through.

    Secind car was imported in 1993, VRTd but never taxed and stored until 2016. It wasnt on the system but a main dealer letter and one from commissioner of oaths got us the paperwork and on the road.

    As mentioned Gowans would be a good starting point. It may not be easy.

    It cannot be registered as a new car since it does not comply with current EU regulations. I know of several brand new cars that were MY17 and unsold into 2018 and 2019 and were listed to be scrapped purely because of this. They could never be registered. I heard last week 2 were sent back to the factory, 1 for display and the other to be dismantled for training. The fate of the 3rd may be similar but is in the air at the moment.

    Good luck to the OP either way and sorry for your loss.


  • #77
    Dymo
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    jozi wrote: »
    Custard test?

    To prove something. Its a pistonheads thing if they don't believe the op, they must take a picture of whatever they are questioning along with a tin of birds custard


  • #78
    emeldc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,597 ✭✭✭emeldc


    I believe the OP. He mentioned the 504 in a post over five years ago. Like most of us he's probably busy. Give him a chance I say.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89832977


  • #79
    BrianD3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,447 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Wasn't there an unregistered Renault 19 on donedeal a few years ago and posted on this forum. A black hatchback from circa 1995 that was never driven and was still unregistered ~20 years later - anyone know what happened to it?


  • #80
    ba_barabus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    Wasn't there an unregistered Renault 19 on donedeal a few years ago and posted on this forum. A black hatchback from circa 1995 that was never driven and was still unregistered ~20 years later - anyone know what happened to it?
    Yep there was. They were looking for a lot of money for it. No idea where it went in the end. You have to be careful buying these as most cars like it were donations by the manufacturers to technical colleges. They had no chassis numbers and could never be put on the road. Someone recently got stung very badly after paying big money for a Clio V6 in Belgium and bring it back here only to realise it could never be registered or used here.


  • #81
    mgbgt1978
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,245 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    MercMad wrote: »
    As mentioned the duty will have been paid otherwise he would never have been able to drive it away. Clearly it wasnt ever taxed, and therefore unregistered, but it wont be liable for VRT if duty was paid.

    I had 2 similar situations in recent years, one car came from the US pre 1993 and duties etc. were all.paid but never taxed or registered. A letter from Revenue confirmed all was in order and nothing was owed. We were told a standard VRT appointment was all that was rewuired to get a ZV number however I sold the car on eBay so never followed through.

    Secind car was imported in 1993, VRTd but never taxed and stored until 2016. It wasnt on the system but a main dealer letter and one from commissioner of oaths got us the paperwork and on the road.

    As mentioned Gowans would be a good starting point. It may not be easy.

    It cannot be registered as a new car since it does not comply with current EU regulations. I know of several brand new cars that were MY17 and unsold into 2018 and 2019 and were listed to be scrapped purely because of this. They could never be registered. I heard last week 2 were sent back to the factory, 1 for display and the other to be dismantled for training. The fate of the 3rd may be similar but is in the air at the moment.

    Good luck to the OP either way and sorry for your loss.


    Both the Cars you mention were previously registered (albeit in a different jurisdiction).
    As the OP's Car was never registered this leaves him in a different situation.


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  • #82
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    Both the Cars you mention were previously registered (albeit in a different jurisdiction).
    As the OP's Car was never registered this leaves him in a different situation.

    You misunderstand the regime at the time.


  • #83
    mgbgt1978
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,245 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    ????


  • #84
    jozi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭jozi


    Dymo wrote: »
    To prove something. Its a pistonheads thing if they don't believe the op, they must take a picture of whatever they are questioning along with a tin of birds custard

    I know what it is, that's why I suggested it.


  • #85
    Isambard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    not just a Pistonheads thing btw...


  • #86
    jozi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭jozi


    Isambard wrote: »
    not just a Pistonheads thing btw...

    I think it originated in pistonheads. Chris Harris talked about it on his collecting cars podcast


  • #87
    w124man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭w124man


    MercMad wrote: »

    It cannot be registered as a new car since it does not comply with current EU regulations. I know of several brand new cars that were MY17 and unsold into 2018 and 2019 and were listed to be scrapped purely because of this. They could never be registered. I heard last week 2 were sent back to the factory, 1 for display and the other to be dismantled for training. The fate of the 3rd may be similar but is in the air at the moment.

    I wonder if the guy who paid €17M for the un-registered McLaren F1 knew what he was getting into !!


  • #88
    carchaeologist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    There is a new unregistered Mini 25 in a garage in Listowel Co Kerry right now. And another lad in Kerry has a 70s Scirocco with delivery mileage on it.
    And speaking of 504s, I was in a yard one time in the Tipperary that had 36 of them, as well as a a few 604s, parked in an open barn. All appeared to have driven in there but were not used with years. One of my more surreal car related days out.


  • #89
    Pops_20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    Any updates OP? I'm checking in three times a day at this stage.


  • #90
    McCrack
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    Well played OP


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  • #91
    w124man
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    Just checking if this thread was about a car or someone's auld fella!

    As they say on other forums, 'pics or it didn't happen'.


  • #92
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    The op hasn't logged on in over a week. Give him a break. He's clearly busy.


  • #93
    w124man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭w124man


    pablo128 wrote: »
    The op hasn't logged on in over a week. Give him a break. He's clearly busy.

    What's this his name is again? Walter Mitty?


  • #94
    mgbgt1978
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,245 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    and.....unfollow ;)




    Life's too short for this nonsense


  • #95
    Odelay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,889 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Relax, life can get in the way, especially on the run up to Christmas. How many here have free time to be pulling stuff out of a shed?


  • #96
    [Deleted User]
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    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    and.....unfollow ;)




    Life's too short for this nonsense

    And miss the entertainment of those still waiting for Godot Alfa Beta


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  • #97
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    Dear OP. Show me the God damn car. You've had all Christmas. Thanks bye x.


  • #98
    ArielAtom
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    I’ve just read the full thread, that same feeling after watching The Dublin Murders!!!!!


  • #99
    Bigus
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    I’ve a feeling the reason the car was left in the garage all that time, was because the purchaser didn’t realize how bad a 504 diesel sounded back then before he ordered it, here’s a good one below.
    They were really like a tractor sound compared to Mercedes 200 and 240d diesels which were the only real Diesel cars irish people had experience of previous to the 504

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE9UchoCov4


  • #100
    Seweryn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    Bigus wrote: »
    I’ve a feeling the reason the car was left in the garage all that time, was because the purchaser didn’t realize how bad a 504 diesel sounded back then before he ordered it, here’s a good one below.
    They were really like a tractor sound compared to Mercedes 200 and 240d diesels which were the only real Diesel cars Irish people had experience of previous to the 504
    They where no worse than any other Diesel at the time, except the M-B. They were the second best after Mercedes. Any conventional Diesel engine sounds like that on idle, especially when old with a bit of wear and sound recorded with a tiny microphone.


  • #101
    Bigus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Bigus


    Seweryn wrote: »
    They where no worse than any other Diesel at the time, except the M-B. They were the second best after Mercedes. Any conventional Diesel engine sounds like that on idle, especially when old with a bit of wear and sound recorded with a tiny microphone.

    They’d were brutal, if you had any respect for your neighbours and you were an industrious EARLY RISER, you’d hide one away in the back of a garage for 40 years to keep the peace, I’d actually say they contributed to holding back diesel car proliferation in cities and the suburbs for years afterwards due to the tractor noise.


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