Winter 2018/2019 - General Discussion

Gonzo · 11-02-2019 7:14pm

pauldry wrote: »

Winter is far from over.

I saw hail on Saturday in Sligo turn the place white for an hour

No it will be a mild week but it wont last and we will be back on the cold side next week.

Could be mixed precipitation once again and single digit temperatures

No long snowy blasts but wintry showers are possible

The models for the rest of February are mostly mild or very mild. The ensembles show temperatures to remain above average every single day between now and 27th of February. There could be a cooler day around the 18th and 19th of February, but even then the temperatures may still be a degree or so above normal. At this stage I think any chance of snow will be in March.

Oneiric 3 · 11-02-2019 7:34pm

Gonzo wrote: »

The models for the rest of February are mostly mild or very mild. The ensembles show temperatures to remain above average every single day between now and 27th of February. There could be a cooler day around the 18th and 19th of February, but even then the temperatures may still be a degree or so above normal. At this stage I think any chance of snow will be in March.

As Pad123456789 said earlier in the thread, if mediocre, dank cold, which to me often feels far more unpleasant than the real thing from the east or north, is all that is on offer, then bring on the mild.

pad199207 · 11-02-2019 7:38pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

As Pad123456789 said earlier in the thread, if mediocre, dank cold, which to me often feels far more unpleasant than the real thing from the east or north, is all that is on offer, then bring on the mild.

Thanks Twoeiric 3456789

MidMan25 · 11-02-2019 8:09pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

What an absolutely glorious day. Its been a while since I've actually felt a bit of warmth of the sunshine. Birds in song all day. This has been a really enjoyable winter for me, 3 or 4 cold nights at most. Feeling summer vibes now

Summer vibes FFS :pac: summer is 14 weeks away.

Ultimate Seduction · 11-02-2019 8:14pm

MidMan25 wrote: »

Summer vibes FFS :pac: summer is 14 weeks away.

So? I didnt say it was summer, or near summer! Blue Sky's, sun shining, birds tweeting away gives me summer vibes.

MidMan25 · 11-02-2019 8:32pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

So? I didnt say it was summer, or near summer! Blue Sky's, sun shining, birds tweeting away gives me summer vibes.

Maybe I misunderstood but the "now" at the end of your post could be considered a suggestion that summer was just around the corner.

pad199207 · 11-02-2019 10:09pm

Naturally expectations this winter were always going to be high after last feb/mar. Incidentally this summer will have HUGE expectations after 2018.

sryanbruen · 11-02-2019 10:21pm

pad199207 wrote: »

Naturally expectations this winter were always going to be high after last feb/mar. Incidentally this summer will have HUGE expectations after 2018.

Like I said in a previous post, what made the period 2008/09 to 2010/11 seem so amazing in regards to Winters was that they got more epic each time until the second half of Winter 2010/11 then Winter 2011/12 was the biggest disappointment ever (going by previous threads).

Dickie10 · 11-02-2019 11:50pm

i always think we can nearly smell summer if you get a bright mild paddys day. its bright til around 7:10pm thats not a winters day or daylight in my book. 10 days later the clocks usually go forward, that to me is summer time straight away, the length of day means its like summer bright til almost 8:30 in evening. i hate snow after 1st March , winters grip is very loose by paddys day because of day lenght even last year when we got a bitter cold and snow on paddys day , it cant last on ground so better off with snow in december and january really.

Ultimate Seduction · 12-02-2019 12:21am

Dickie10 wrote: »

i always think we can nearly smell summer if you get a bright mild paddys day. its bright til around 7:10pm thats not a winters day or daylight in my book. 10 days later the clocks usually go forward, that to me is summer time straight away, the length of day means its like summer bright til almost 8:30 in evening. i hate snow after 1st March , winters grip is very loose by paddys day because of day lenght even last year when we got a bitter cold and snow on paddys day , it cant last on ground so better off with snow in december and january really.

Kind of same as how I think to be honest. We've two seasons and they change around March and October . Think it was 2015 we had a really warm period mid march? Thats only 4 weeks away

Gonzo · 12-02-2019 12:39am

will be interesting to see how many degree's above normal will February be if the GFS charts are correct. Tonights GFS ensembles are just so mild, mostly low to mid teens all the way to March 1st.

PixelTrawler · 12-02-2019 12:42am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Kind of same as how I think to be honest. We've two seasons and they change around March and October . Think it was 2015 we had a really warm period mid march? Thats only 4 weeks away

Mid March 2014 was very warm. We had just moved into this house and we got a wood burner installed. We lit it to test it but didnt use it til the following autumn. It was far too warm already for a fire.

Years since we've lit it in miserable cold wet days in April.

Graces7 · 12-02-2019 7:00am

A wild, loud night and a blustery morning. Yesterday was an oasis.

zell12 · 12-02-2019 11:26am

Been such a mild winter and little rain

pauldry · 12-02-2019 1:01pm

Is this going to be the mildest Winter on record?

December way milder than normal
January slightly above
February above normal

Only about 10 cold days all season.

Seems nowadays that the weather is either milder than average for a prolonged period followed by a short cold spurt to bring average down followed by another long mild spell.

The monthly averages are distorted nowadays.

e.g February showing as normal currently but this is only because it was way colder than normal for 3 days but the other days have been normal or above.

Oscar Bravo · 12-02-2019 1:15pm

Nice afternoon here in Castlebar.blue skies light winds . 12 degrees

sideswipe · 12-02-2019 1:45pm

repub wrote: »

hi people,
i picked up a virus guessing it was a strain of flu. It lasted a good 10 days and I'm still recovering. aches pains, temperature, dry cough, sinuses, sore throat. the strangest thing though is the night sweats the past few nights. I feel most symptoms are gone just the after math like a bit flem-ee etc. but the waking up in the night with my clothes soaking is a bit alarming. anyone else experience this??

Hi repub,

Think you may have the wrong forum. This is the weather forum, you're looking for the under the weather forum:P

ps get well soon

pps go and see a doctor

snowgal · 12-02-2019 2:41pm

repub wrote: »

hi people,
i picked up a virus guessing it was a strain of flu. It lasted a good 10 days and I'm still recovering. aches pains, temperature, dry cough, sinuses, sore throat. the strangest thing though is the night sweats the past few nights. I feel most symptoms are gone just the after math like a bit flem-ee etc. but the waking up in the night with my clothes soaking is a bit alarming. anyone else experience this??

Hi Repub, yes Im exactly the same. Just about feeling somewhat normal this week but still getting these crazy night (and day!) sweats after 2 weeks. I think its just the way the strain is working on this particular virus....

btw mods, move this somewhere else if appropriate...thanks

Gonzo · 12-02-2019 2:46pm

pauldry wrote: »

Is this going to be the mildest Winter on record?

December way milder than normal
January slightly above
February above normal

Only about 10 cold days all season.

Seems nowadays that the weather is either milder than average for a prolonged period followed by a short cold spurt to bring average down followed by another long mild spell.

The monthly averages are distorted nowadays.

e.g February showing as normal currently but this is only because it was way colder than normal for 3 days but the other days have been normal or above.

It will be very interesting to see how mild in total this Winter has been. The majority of the season has seen days of 10C+. Only a handful of days have gone colder than 6C. Many places have seen no snow at all and only a few frosty nights.

At night time Ireland has been consistently the warmest country in Europe throughout this Winter, with night time temperatures close to 10C on many nights. Only recently has places like Greece and southern Spain joined Ireland with mild night time temperatures.

This may not be the mildest winter of all time, but it's certainly in my top 3 list of mild winters since the 1970s in terms of mild daytime and nighttime temperatures, almost complete absence of snow and very little frost.

road_high · 12-02-2019 2:56pm

PixelTrawler wrote: »

Mid March 2014 was very warm. We had just moved into this house and we got a wood burner installed. We lit it to test it but didnt use it til the following autumn. It was far too warm already for a fire.

Years since we've lit it in miserable cold wet days in April.

March 2012 was savage, mini heatwave stuff. Remember doing a job interview and having to have all windows open. It was so sunny and warm.
The summer after was pretty crap though!

Gonzo · 12-02-2019 3:45pm

long range models now forcasting the mild spell to last at least until the second week of March. Temperatures this week between 3 and 6C above average, then more like 1 to 3C above average in the 3 weeks to follow this week.

The long range models have been wrong all winter, so let's see if this mild theme lasts for another month.

Snow Garden · 12-02-2019 3:48pm

repub wrote: »

hi people,
i picked up a virus guessing it was a strain of flu. It lasted a good 10 days and I'm still recovering. aches pains, temperature, dry cough, sinuses, sore throat. the strangest thing though is the night sweats the past few nights. I feel most symptoms are gone just the after math like a bit flem-ee etc. but the waking up in the night with my clothes soaking is a bit alarming. anyone else experience this??

One flu over the cuckoos nest. You are hallucinating chief...

Rebelbrowser · 12-02-2019 3:53pm

Gonzo wrote: »

long range models now forcasting the mild spell to last at least until the second week of March. Temperatures this week between 3 and 6C above average, then more like 1 to 3C above average in the 3 weeks to follow this week.

The long range models have been wrong all winter, so let's see if this mild theme lasts for another month.

There's only one long range model you can trust....:)

and

sryanbruen · 12-02-2019 6:44pm

Gonzo wrote: »

It will be very interesting to see how mild in total this Winter has been. The majority of the season has seen days of 10C+. Only a handful of days have gone colder than 6C. Many places have seen no snow at all and only a few frosty nights.

At night time Ireland has been consistently the warmest country in Europe throughout this Winter, with night time temperatures close to 10C on many nights. Only recently has places like Greece and southern Spain joined Ireland with mild night time temperatures.

This may not be the mildest winter of all time, but it's certainly in my top 3 list of mild winters since the 1970s in terms of mild daytime and nighttime temperatures, almost complete absence of snow and very little frost.

In case of your curiosity, I have created the following analysis for Dunsany based on temperature data of previous Winters (means are based on midnight to midnight readings rather than 0900 to 0900 UTC readings).

Winter (December to February) mean temperatures, mean max and mean min temperatures.

Keep in mind, some or all data is not available for the following Winters: 1967-68, 1970-71, 1971-72, 1979-80, 1984-85, 1991-92, 2007-08. So beware of the sudden down spikes as a result in points of the graph.

Coldest: 2009-10 with a mean of 2.2c
Mildest: 1988-89 & 1997-98 with a mean of 6.4c

2018-19 up to January is currently running at 6.3c. Mean minimum is currently record high at 4.0c but one more month of data to consider.

MidMan25 · 12-02-2019 7:06pm

Dismal day in Cork. Horrible grey misty mildness.

m17 · 12-02-2019 7:52pm

Galway 12/02/19 18.50 temperature 9°C

squarecircles · 12-02-2019 7:57pm

no snow,then no. 16 degrees,gas stuff.

esposito · 12-02-2019 8:03pm

squarecircles wrote: »

no snow,then no. 16 degrees,gas stuff.

You really do have to laugh at how mild it is getting over the next few days.

It will be interesting to see how long this exceptionally mild spell lasts. I know models at the moment are currently saying it will last into early March but we all know long term models have been atrocious this winter.

Gonzo · 12-02-2019 8:20pm

esposito wrote: »

You really do have to laugh at how mild it is getting over the next few days.

It will be interesting to see how long this exceptionally mild spell lasts. I know models at the moment are currently saying it will last into early March but we all know long term models have been atrocious this winter.

not sure it will reach as high as 16C as what is showing in that chart, but that sort of temperature chart wouldn't look out of place in May. Crazy to think that's a February chart.

Oneiric 3 · 12-02-2019 8:39pm

Top 10 warmest winters in Northern Ireland:

6.24 1989
5.97 1998
5.67 1943
5.67 1935
5.65 1975
5.64 2017
5.58 2007
5.56 1949
5.55 2012
5.53 1932

(UK Met Office)

For the Dec - Jan period this winter, the mean temp stands at 5.75c in the North. Here in the Rep, temps are running pretty close to average for the month of Feb so far, so would expect about the same in the North, so even with this upcoming mild spell, I would doubt that winter will break any records regarding warmth on either side of the border, but certainly will be up there on the ranks.

acequion · 12-02-2019 8:50pm

I absolutely hate this mild weather and am worried now because I'm due to spend a few days next week near London. And double figures are forecast! In bloody February

My question to you weather experts is how mild is a temperature of 13 degrees in southern England? Here in Kerry 13 degrees is just awful because of the humidity. So without humidity is it more comfortable? I'm hoping to pack normal winter clothes ie a winter coat,a few jumpers,light ones. Will that be too warm there? In Kerry it would be.

I've not much to trouble me, people will say and they might be right, but I'm looking forward to my break and we'll be doing a fair bit of walking around outside and I just hate when it's too warm in winter.

Ultimate Seduction · 12-02-2019 8:58pm

acequion wrote: »

I absolutely hate this mild weather and am worried now because I'm due to spend a few days next week near London. And double figures are forecast! In bloody February

My question to you weather experts is how mild is a temperature of 13 degrees in southern England? Here in Kerry 13 degrees is just awful because of the humidity. So without humidity is it more comfortable? I'm hoping to pack normal winter clothes ie a winter coat,a few jumpers,light ones. Will that be too warm there? In Kerry it would be.

I've not much to trouble me, people will say and they might be right, but I'm looking forward to my break and we'll be doing a fair bit of walking around outside and I just hate when it's too warm in winter.

Its 13 degrees not 30.

Monkeynut · 12-02-2019 9:11pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Its 13 degrees not 30.

I'm roasting in the house, I say its reaching 30. My partner thinks you put the heating on by the season. In the summer its off. In the winter its on all day.

Shes gone to work now, I have all the windows open, in my boxers, watching the match.

oh yeah and typing on this like a creep too. :pac::pac::pac:

Oneiric 3 · 12-02-2019 9:21pm

National daily temperature departure from 1981-2010 base for this winter so far (up to yesterday)

Current Winter deviation: +1.2 deg. C.

Data C/O Met Eireann.

Marengo · 12-02-2019 10:32pm

Siobhan said 'mild' 13 times in 3 min on RTE forecast!

acequion · 12-02-2019 10:34pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Its 13 degrees not 30.

I'm aware it's 13 and not 30 :rolleyes:

Some people just can't resist the urge to be smart alecs.

I find 13 degrees too warm in winter. You associate 13 degrees with late March or October, Spring or Autumn,not winter. And though February may technically be Spring, with its short days and bare trees,in most people's minds its still winter. We might even get 15 or 16 here later this week. Great for those that like that but it's not for me, not this early.

Ultimate Seduction · 12-02-2019 10:39pm

acequion wrote: »

I'm aware it's 13 and not 30 :rolleyes:

Some people just can't resist the urge to be smart alecs.

I find 13 degrees too warm in winter. You associate 13 degrees with late March or October, Spring or Autumn,not winter. And though February may technically be Spring, with its short days and bare trees,in most people's minds its still winter. We might even get 15 or 16 here later this week. Great for those that like that but it's not for me, not this early.

The time of the year doesn't make it any hotter though. How can 13 degrees be too warm for you just because its a certain month? 13c in February is as warm/cool as 13c in April. Fair enough if you just don't want mild weather, but to be worrying about it being too warm its ludicrous.

Birdnuts · 12-02-2019 10:57pm

Could some of the experts here do a comparison of very mild Febs and the following summer?? I remember 1998 being like this and then we got record cold in April followed by a horrid summer:(

acequion · 12-02-2019 10:58pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

The time of the year doesn't make it any hotter though. How can 13 degrees be too warm for you just because its a certain month? 13c in February is as warm/cool as 13c in April. Fair enough if you just don't want mild weather, but to be worrying about it being too warm its ludicrous.

God would you ever learn to live and let live!

Let me try to explain it so that you might see where another person is coming from. I like a proper winter with lowish temperatures. I love to wear proper winter clothes and feel comfortable and you can't do that at 13 degrees. You expect around 13 degrees in April so you dress differently. I'm going to England next week and as I love my fashion I want to wear my nice winter clothes. With this type of weather you don't know what to wear and if you dress too heavy you're too warm.Hence low temps are much easier to plan for. So I'm worried it will be uncomfortable next week as we'll be doing a lot of walking.

It's exactly the same in summer. I love hot weather then and to be able to just fling my light clothes into the case when I travel and off I go. But in Ireland it's often only 15 degrees in summer so same dilemma but in reverse as you're worrying about it being too cold. I've always associated England with being more seasonal than the Atlantic coasts of Ireland so I'm not too happy about these unseasonal temps there too, but am hoping that with less humidity than here it might be more comfortable.

Get it now?

Ultimate Seduction · 12-02-2019 11:01pm

acequion wrote: »

God would you ever learn to live and let live!

Let me try to explain it so that you might see where another person is coming from. I like a proper winter with lowish temperatures. I love to wear proper winter clothes and feel comfortable and you can't do that at 13 degrees. You expect around 13 degrees in April so you dress differently. I'm going to England next week and as I love my fashion I want to wear my nice winter clothes. With this type of weather you don't know what to wear and if you dress too heavy you're too warm.Hence low temps are much easier to plan for. So I'm worried it will be uncomfortable next week as we'll be doing a lot of walking.

It's exactly the same in summer. I love hot weather then and to be able to just fling my light clothes into the case when I travel and off I go. But in Ireland it's often only 15 degrees in summer so same dilemma but in reverse as you're worrying about it being too cold. I've always associated England with being more seasonal than the Atlantic coasts of Ireland so I'm not too happy about these unseasonal temps there too, but am hoping that with less humidity than here it might be more comfortable.

Get it now?

Nope, dont get it at all. You're leaving a place of 13degrees and traveling to a place 13degrees. I won't bother you anymore .

acequion · 12-02-2019 11:03pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Nope, dont get it at all. You're leaving a place of 13degrees and traveling to a place 13degrees. I won't bother you anymore .

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Gaoth Laidir · 12-02-2019 11:11pm

acequion wrote: »

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

To be fair he has a point. 13 degrees is 13 degrees. The way you're talking about humidity, etc. it's like you're going to Lagos, not London. I, too, don't get it.

acequion · 12-02-2019 11:14pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

To be fair he has a point. 13 degrees is 13 degrees. The way you're talking about humidity, etc. it's like you're going to Lagos, not London. I, too, don't get it.

Fine if you don't get it!! I've made my point and I'm so sorry I even bothered to ask here. Rudeness is the order of the day with a lot of posters on boards.ie

Monkeynut · 12-02-2019 11:25pm

acequion wrote: »

Fine if you don't get it!! I've made my point and I'm so sorry I even bothered to ask here. Rudeness is the order of the day with a lot of posters on boards.ie

I get it, you need 2 suitcases for London just to be safe.

Gaoth Laidir · 12-02-2019 11:38pm

acequion wrote: »

Fine if you don't get it!! I've made my point and I'm so sorry I even bothered to ask here. Rudeness is the order of the day with a lot of posters on boards.ie

Rudeness has nothing to do with it. Your point about 13 degrees and the humidity that goes with it is totally bizarre, to be honest. Don't be surprised when people comment on it. There's no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes. If you "like your fashion" too much to dress appropriately for the weather (which is fairly seasonable (+/- a degree or two) then it's not the weather that's the problem.

Hooter23 · 12-02-2019 11:52pm

We need a rapid cool down:cool:;)

acequion · 13-02-2019 12:09am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Rudeness has nothing to do with it. Your point about 13 degrees and the humidity that goes with it is totally bizarre, to be honest. Don't be surprised when people comment on it. There's no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes. If you "like your fashion" too much to dress appropriately for the weather (which is fairly seasonable (+/- a degree or two) then it's not the weather that's the problem.

Rudeness has everything to do with it. Some people just love to be assholes here on boards.ie just to be smart and to somehow point score with people who post to ask genuine questions. Are you one of them?

If you know about weather you will know about humidity. You will know that humidity hugely affects the real feel of a temperature. If you've ever been to Kerry you will know that because it's the rainiest county in Ireland it's almost always very humid here. Which makes double digit figures in winter uncomfortable unless you fancy going around in a tshirt which personally, I don't. Humidity is perceivable winter and summer. In fact I don't mind Kerry's humidity in summer when temps are still in the teens because it makes the real feel warmer.

Now you do have a point about clothes. But my point is that I like a winter where I can feel comfortable in winter clothes, where I don't have to be constantly second guessing what I might wear. If you don't or won't get that, fine, but stop making an issue like I've said something certifiable. We just see things differently.

And I don't agree that 13 degrees is seasonal for February. 13 degrees is mild and everybody is agreeing here that this winter is exceptionally mild. I just thought and hoped it would be cooler in England and I'm disappointed to see that's it's not.

Gaoth Laidir · 13-02-2019 12:33am

acequion wrote: »

Rudeness has everything to do with it. Some people just love to be assholes here on boards.ie just to be smart and to somehow point score with people who post to ask genuine questions. Are you one of them?

If you know about weather you will know about humidity. You will know that humidity hugely affects the real feel of a temperature. If you've ever been to Kerry you will know that because it's the rainiest county in Ireland it's almost always very humid here. Which makes double digit figures in winter uncomfortable unless you fancy going around in a tshirt which personally, I don't. Humidity is perceivable winter and summer. In fact I don't mind Kerry's humidity in summer when temps are still in the teens because it makes the real feel warmer.

Now you do have a point about clothes. But my point is that I like a winter where I can feel comfortable in winter clothes, where I don't have to be constantly second guessing what I might wear. If you don't or won't get that, fine, but stop making an issue like I've said something certifiable. We just see things differently.

And I don't agree that 13 degrees is seasonal for February. 13 degrees is mild and everybody is agreeing here that this winter is exceptionally mild. I just thought and hoped it would be cooler in England and I'm disappointed to see that's it's not.

I'm not going to get into an argument about it with you but you seem to misunderstand humidity. Humidity does affect real feel but only when you start talking about actual high dewpoints. A temperature of 13 degrees with 100% r.h. only means a dewpoint of 13 degrees, which is not oppressive. In reality the dewpoints at this time of the year are several degrees lower than that. It's only when dewpoint gets into the high teens or 20 that you start to feel its effects.

And the recent max temperature at Valentia has only got to about two degrees above the LTA of 10 °C. Still in the 90th percentile. If it was hitting 18 degrees then you might have a point, but it hasn't even been hitting 12.0

Donegal Storm · 13-02-2019 12:37am

Have mild Februarys not been fairly common in recent years? Plenty of years I can remember where Spring was well underway by the end of the month, I'd say more often than not the second half of the month feels Spring-like with noticeably longer days and plant life starting to sprout

Oneiric 3 · 13-02-2019 12:46am

Winter 2018/2019 - General Discussion

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