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Rjd2 · 25-02-2021 11:21pm

US2 wrote: »

Maavidal was 50-45d by Usman in the most one sided fight ive seen. Colby had an absolute war with usman and nearly beat him yet its masvidal who gets a rematch. Sickening. Id like to see colby v Gilbert burns now maybe

Agreed.

I don't blame Usman though, he's favorite in rematch with Coby, but Jorge the much easier fight and probably will make the same amount of money also.

ASOT · 25-02-2021 11:25pm

I don't mind seeing the Jorge rematch with him having a full camp, don't think it'll make to much of a difference but Usman out away any doubt in the first win.

Really want to see the Colby rematch, hopefully it happens after if this masvidal fight is real. Would rather Colby/Masvidal do a season of TUF and let Marty sit out for a bit though.

yourdeadwright · 26-02-2021 1:04pm

Colby in my eyes could beat Usman I thought he was winning the fight until the last round,

UFC must think Masvidal is more popular than he actually is,

Usman is clever calls out the man who is without question the easier fight, Isn't it for some kind of record win streak ?

Still Ill · 26-02-2021 1:58pm

The Colby Usman fight was one of the best title fights in recent times IMO. Was expecting a dull enough grappling match, but they just stood and traded the entire fight. Was very close until the KO. He definitely deserves a rematch most out of all of Usman's opponents.

That being said, I think the Masvidal fight was one of the biggest selling non McGregor PPVs, so can see why Dana would be interested in that one. They have the excuse that Masvidal didn't he a full camp, I suppose, but would a second fight really do huge numbers after how the first one played out?

ASOT · 27-02-2021 12:24pm

Anyone see Gordon Ryan slap Galvao today? :PAC:

Also Whittakers fighting Costa, food fight that. Id pick Rob to win.

xtal191 · 27-02-2021 2:28pm

ASOT wrote: »

Anyone see Gordon Ryan slap Galvao today? :PAC:

Also Whittakers fighting Costa, food fight that. Id pick Rob to win.

Nice rear on your one near the start

mailburner · 27-02-2021 9:58pm

hill yoder fight off

Mellor · 01-03-2021 12:03pm

xtal191 wrote: »

Nice rear on your one near the start

Video is gone. But I really hope your not talking about Gabi

yourdeadwright · 01-03-2021 12:44pm

Anyone see the video of khabib talking about the Justin fight ,
talks about the problems in training & that but the interesting part was the conversation during the fight,
Justin really was a deer in the headlights ,answering Khabib question in there is bizarre,

Rjd2 · 02-03-2021 2:33am

https://twitter.com/SandhuMMA/status/1366559353738842113

Khamzat retiring due to covid.

It's a shame if true, as while he was somewhat unproven he was a compelling presence in his short UFC career.

Zero-Cool · 02-03-2021 4:04am

Rjd2 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SandhuMMA/status/1366559353738842113

Khamzat retiring due to covid.

It's a shame if true, as while he was somewhat unproven he was a compelling presence in his short UFC career.

WOW! He must be ****ed and i know covid affects people differently with some suffering long term effects and i can't imagine how hard it must be trying to train with something like that. Hopefully it's something he can recover enough from to make a come back as he has so much potential. He's probably been trying to train through it, some complete time off might be what he needs.

Mellor · 02-03-2021 5:30am

Bitta steroids, be grand

yourdeadwright · 02-03-2021 11:04am

Mellor wrote: »

Bitta steroids, be grand

Strangely that may be the case
If he retires and is taken out of the pool he could then go on a cycle to get himself back to where he was pre covid

What is the protocol with the testing pool on retirement and how long before he would be allowed to re-enter ?

Mellor · 02-03-2021 11:17am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Strangely that may be the case
If he retires and is taken out of the pool he could then go on a cycle to get himself back to where he was pre covid

What is the protocol with the testing pool on retirement and how long before he would be allowed to re-enter ?

6 months on re-entry I believe.

US2 · 02-03-2021 11:55am

He was calling out Niel magny yesterday. Bit of a drama queen it seems.

https://twitter.com/MMAjunkieJohn/status/1366586181857603584?s=19

Brussels Sprout · 02-03-2021 12:01pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Strangely that may be the case
If he retires and is taken out of the pool he could then go on a cycle to get himself back to where he was pre covid

What is the protocol with the testing pool on retirement and how long before he would be allowed to re-enter ?

Steroids are actually prescribed to some people suffering the initial breathing difficulties from Covid. My sister's boyfriend was given a course of them by his GP in order to keep him out of hospital. Ho took those in order that he wouldn't need supplementary oxygen and they worked for him and kept him out of hospital. He made a full recovery at home.

Khamzhat's condition appears to be more serious, judging by the fact that he's been coughing up blood. He may have suffered fibrosis to his lungs. There are some young people who require double-lung transplants after particularly severe bouts of the disease. Hopefully he doesn't fall into that category.

EagererBeaver · 02-03-2021 1:21pm

US2 wrote: »

He was calling out Niel magny yesterday. Bit of a drama queen it seems.

https://twitter.com/MMAjunkieJohn/status/1366586181857603584?s=19

If Dana said that, it's 100% confirmed he's retiring.

Mellor · 02-03-2021 1:32pm

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Steroids are actually prescribed to some people suffering the initial breathing difficulties from Covid. My sister's boyfriend was given a course of them by his GP in order to keep him out of hospital.

That would have been corticosteroids not “steroids”.

rob316 · 02-03-2021 2:41pm

Usman beat Masvidal with ease, it won't be much different a rematch. I'd watch Colby and Usman again though.

It's a poor enough division, least interesting in the UFC probably.

Fromvert · 03-03-2021 12:21am

Poor Khamzat can't even retire a day before getting a phone call from Chechnya to let him know retiring isn't a decision he can make. Of course that phone call was likely just the nice bit of cajoling he needed. Grim

https://www.mmamania.com/2021/3/2/22309929/ramzan-kadyrov-sending-khamzat-chimaev-back-chechnya-rehabilitation-following-ufc-retirement-scare

Chairman Meow · 03-03-2021 4:48pm

Finally finished the BJ Penn video if you guys are interested. Fair warning... its 26 minutes long lol
Bloody nightmare of a video to make. Kept having to re-edit it to try and avoid copyright blocks on it, which meant re-rendering it every time, and then trying to upload a 2GB file after my ISP has hobbled my upload speeds meant i spent about 6 or 7 hours alone just re-uploading it... pain in the arse. Bloody UFC is like a ninja with its copyright strikes!!

Beersmith · 03-03-2021 5:10pm

Thats a pity cause those videos surely only helps the brand unless you are slating them

Chairman Meow · 03-03-2021 5:41pm

Beersmith wrote: »

Thats a pity cause those videos surely only helps the brand unless you are slating them

Guess they figure at this point they dont need promotion from small fry youtubers! And i mean i only take the piss a bit in the videos..

Tazzimus · 04-03-2021 1:56am

Overeem and JDS have parted with the UFC seemingly. Don't think it's officially announced yet but they've been removed from the rankings.
Surprised on the Overeem one.

smilerf · 04-03-2021 4:39am

Tazzimus wrote: »

Overeem and JDS have parted with the UFC seemingly. Don't think it's officially announced yet but they've been removed from the rankings.
Surprised on the Overeem one.

they are there now

Axwell · 04-03-2021 4:47am

https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/30999455/ufc-releases-heavyweights-junior-dos-santos-alistair-overeem

Mellor · 04-03-2021 7:26am

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Guess they figure at this point they dont need promotion from small fry youtubers! And i mean i only take the piss a bit in the videos..

I think the strikes are automatic. Bots just scan the videos for data that matches a copyright database

mailburner · 04-03-2021 7:51am

Very surprised at overeem being cut, rarely in a bad fight although his effort v volkov was one of his worst
He's still relevant in the he div though.

Jds well past it and hasn't the beating of any decent fighter right now along with 4 straight ko defeats

I guess though with both earning over 400k per fight and more than the likes of ngannou it makes sense letting jds go anyway

dashoonage · 04-03-2021 9:31am

Dana clearing out the division for jones.

Homelander · 04-03-2021 9:54am

With Overeem, his record is still good and he had some great outings in his last few. Would've thought he had a few more in him though and people like watching him fight.

Won 6 of this last 10, and the losses are against top level guys, and the Rosinstruik fight he was winning until that KO at the literal last momen of the fifth round.

Wonder will he hang it up or go elsewhere now.

Chairman Meow · 04-03-2021 10:17am

Mellor wrote: »

I think the strikes are automatic. Bots just scan the videos for data that matches a copyright database

That... would make a lot more sense

Man sad to see JDS and Overeem go. Two HW legends. JDS was one of my favourite fighters back in his prime. And even tho i never liked Overeem at first, i always found him too cocky and he always looked so smug, in the last few years he kinda pulled a Bisping on it for me, he just never gave up and really earned my respect and i grew to really like him. An era of HW gone forever now. Horse meat Ubereem was an absolute unit

Tazzimus · 04-03-2021 11:01am

If he ends up in Bellator we may see the return of Ubereem.

smilerf · 04-03-2021 11:23am

As per my comment yesterday they are still in the rankings

Tazzimus · 04-03-2021 11:31am

I was reading it on Twitter last night and it mentioned them being removed from the rankings, that obviously wasn't true. Yet.
JDS has commented on his release but nothing from Overeem yet.

JamieHP · 05-03-2021 11:02am

How many fighters have went up/down a weight class to compete for the title, and ultimately lost?

Beersmith · 05-03-2021 11:06am

JamieHP wrote: »

How many fighters have went up/down a weight class to compete for the title, and ultimately lost?

Do you mean that were current champs of the divisions or ex champs or never champs?

Not many have gone down/up and gotten an instant shot.

Loads have changed a division and eventually gotten shots.

JamieHP · 05-03-2021 11:07am

Beersmith wrote: »

Do you mean that were current champs of the divisions or ex champs or never champs?

Not many have gone down/up and gotten an instant shot.

Loads have changed a division and eventually gotten shots.

Yes! Meant to say champs, that went up or down, and fought instantly for the title!

MrStuffins · 05-03-2021 11:35am

JamieHP wrote: »

Yes! Meant to say champs, that went up or down, and fought instantly for the title!

Correct me if this is not a complete list..........

BJ Penn v GSP - Lost

McGregor v Alvarez - Won

DC v Stipe - Won

Nunes v Cyborg - Won

TJ v Cejudo - Lost (Unique in that TJ was actually coming down in weight)

Beersmith · 05-03-2021 12:24pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

Correct me if this is not a complete list..........

BJ Penn v GSP - Lost

McGregor v Alvarez - Won

DC v Stipe - Won

Nunes v Cyborg - Won

TJ v Cejudo - Lost (Unique in that TJ was actually coming down in weight)

Cejudo going up and winning bantamweight

GSP winning the middleweight title i would think counts

AlmightyCushion · 05-03-2021 12:44pm

Beersmith wrote: »

Cejudo going up and winning bantamweight

GSP winning the middleweight title i would think counts

I wouldn't count GSP. He wasn't champ at the time and had a huge lay off beforehand so could put the weight on slowly and be a proper MW as opposed to a WW fighting at MW.

Holloway Poirer 2 was for the interim 155 belt. Holloway lost that.

derfderf · 06-03-2021 6:45am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Holloway Poirer 2 was for the interim 155 belt. Holloway lost that.

Holloway was set to fight Khabib for the belt too, but they stopped his weight cut.

Zero-Cool · 07-03-2021 8:54pm

https://twitter.com/danhardymma/status/1368637397672558595?s=19

mdwexford · 08-03-2021 12:27am

Was just coming on to post about that.

I love his breakdowns and work on BT.
Very disappointing news, wonder what the hell happened and did he actually do anything wrong or is it Dana being a dick. He already had beef with him over the Herb Dean incident.

ASOT · 08-03-2021 8:45am

It's over Laura Sanko getting something ahead if him iv been reading online but could alll be bollox.

I loved all but BT stuff myself

yourdeadwright · 08-03-2021 10:38am

Izzy is the first champion to go up as champion & fight for a title and lose

BJ Penn was champion when he went up to fight GSP but GSP was not the champion

yourdeadwright · 08-03-2021 10:39am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Correct me if this is not a complete list..........

BJ Penn v GSP - Lost

McGregor v Alvarez - Won

DC v Stipe - Won

Nunes v Cyborg - Won

TJ v Cejudo - Lost (Unique in that TJ was actually coming down in weight)

GSP was not champion when he fought BJ he won the belt in his next fight v Hughes

fitzparker · 08-03-2021 10:46am

ASOT wrote: »

It's over Laura Sanko getting something ahead if him iv been reading online but could alll be bollox.

I loved all but BT stuff myself

Its not Laura, she released a statement saying its nothing to do with her

MrStuffins · 08-03-2021 10:46am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

GSP was not champion when he fought BJ he won the belt in his next fight v Hughes

At UFC 94?

yourdeadwright · 08-03-2021 10:52am

MrStuffins wrote: »

At UFC 94?

Ah my bad somehow I'm getting details from the first fight and second one mixed up

Your correct so then Izzy and Bj are the only two to have lost as undisputed champions going up to fight for the title

Mellor · 08-03-2021 11:08am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

GSP was not champion when he fought BJ he won the belt in his next fight v Hughes

When BJ moved up as champ. GSP was also champ. BJ lost.

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