New Development Royal Canal Park D15

janus83 · 03-10-2019 7:40pm

maciektok wrote: »

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Hi came across this and its the same error Im getting on our system in Naas, also a Ballymore development actually! Do you mind me asking what fixed this for you please?

pgav19 · 12-10-2019 5:23pm

Hi,

We have moved into a Heron recently. The Air to Water heating system is working well so far....always have hot water and the temperature is kept at a constant.

I have a question about setting temperatures for different times though. We have all floors set to 19 degrees. Which is grand. Sometimes, the bedroom can be a bit cold at night. I'd like to be able to up the temperature by a few degrees for a couple of hours around bedtime. Is this possible?

I've looked through the operating manual and the heating "Schedule" option on the main unit doesn't seem to be available to me.

Just wondering if anyone has advise.

Thanks

slayerking · 16-10-2019 12:31pm

pgav19 wrote: »

Hi,

We have moved into a Heron recently. The Air to Water heating system is working well so far....always have hot water and the temperature is kept at a constant.

I have a question about setting temperatures for different times though. We have all floors set to 19 degrees. Which is grand. Sometimes, the bedroom can be a bit cold at night. I'd like to be able to up the temperature by a few degrees for a couple of hours around bedtime. Is this possible?

I've looked through the operating manual and the heating "Schedule" option on the main unit doesn't seem to be available to me.

Just wondering if anyone has advise.

Thanks

I don't believe its possible to do this unless you change the thermostats because it is the thermostat that controls the heat flow to the radiators that heats the zones.
The thermostats are all basic manually controlled ones and dont have any feature that allows you to add a schedule or anything.

I have installed a Nest thermostat and it allows me to do things like this. They are a bit expensive however.
Another possible option could be to try some of the other thermostats offered by EPH controls, they might have a schedule feature

e.g. https://www.ephcontrols.com/section/progammable-rf-thermostat-receiver-combipack2/

Both would require some rewiring/removal of the existing thermostat.

The general consensus with A2W is to not allow the temp to fluctuate a lot because its inefficient to heat the house from a much lower temp vs maintaining a constant one so even with a scheduled thermostat, it's best to avoid large variances. I do find the Nest good though for subtle changes like a slight increase of a degree or 2 in the morn for an hour or 2, or a slight decrease of a degree or 2 when no one is in the house for long periods.

fret_wimp2 · 16-10-2019 1:07pm

You don't need anything more complicated. The way the heating works is that it's supposed to be on all the time. The thermostats are then set to your liking on each level and the system will keep the house at that temp. It shouldn't need a boost.

It's way less efficient to have it time controlled. Give joule a call and ask them for confirmation.

Manion · 16-10-2019 2:25pm

As mentioned above, the most cost effective approach is to maintain a constant temperature. I believe the previously reference time was 1 hour to raise the temperature 5 degrees. Due to the BER rating once you raise the temperature it's going to take a long time it to drop back down again. When our heating stopped working last year it took a good 48 hours for the house to get "cold".

slayerking · 17-10-2019 9:38am

fret_wimp2 wrote: »

It's way less efficient to have it time controlled. Give joule a call and ask them for confirmation.

I discussed this with Joule before, it really depends on your needs and how you time control it. The important part is not to let your house temperature drop too much (max about 2 - 3 degrees) because the energy required to restore the temp would negate it.

For example, most people are out of the house for up to 50 % of the day during the week (i.e. at work for 9-10 hours of the day), so it's not so efficient that your house is maintaining a temp of say 20 degrees for all that time. You can save energy by dropping it by a degree or 2 for that long stretch so the zone(s) don't need to needlessly maintain that higher temp and constantly draw from the hot water tank into the zones, meaning the heat pump needs to kick in more.
Same goes for a night time when there is no one in the down stairs zone all night, you can drop it by a degree or 2.

It's useful also in the OPs case where you just what a slight boost of heat sometimes during the day/night but you dont want to maintain that boost temp all the time (and maybe not so concerned with efficiency just a need).

Whether the savings is worth the cost/hassle though of replacing thermostats... its hard to know, I guess it depends!

Manion · 18-10-2019 12:34am

Almost certainly not worth replacing the thermostats with smart ones just to have the temperature 2 degrees lower 9-5 Monday to Friday. Electricity bill in the heron runs to about 80 euro of which c20 is standing charge. Being extremely generous and assuming such a process would save 3% of my electricity usage that's just short of 1.8 Euros. 2 Nest thermostats cost c500 euro. It would take me just over 23 years to break even assuming i didn't need to pay someone to install them.

slayerking · 18-10-2019 11:12am

Funny enough, my electricity bill is alot cheaper than that, and I only have a Nest on one zone!!

Interesting assumptions but I think the savings are a little more than that when you factor in night time savings plus how Nest controls heating in general (its not as heavy handed as a standard thermostat, cuts heat prior to hitting target temp) but in any case I agree with you, I dont think a Nest is worth it if you are buying it primarily thinking it will save you loads of money and you have an a2w unit which is already pretty cheap to run.
I think this is true also for any heating system a Nest is applied to because they all have a basic heating scheduler anyway on them (except a2w), so a Nest is just a fancier (and very expensive) scheduler.

For me, usage savings is a small part but its the other stuff you get with it that make it a little more compelling and why I got one to try out.

e.g. More granular temp control + knowing actual room temp, control remotely via app, a scheduler (I dont want the house to always be the same temp all the time, like the OP), actual usage stats, room humidity stats, possible to use smart TRVs on rads linked to Nest to control room level heating, a screen that displays stuff like weather outside (which is surprisingly useful in the dark AMs before I leave for work as the screen turns on when you walk by automatically), it knows when no one is home. etc.
Plus you can build smart triggers off it. e.g. no one in house, turn lights off/on. humidity too high, turn on a dehumidifier etc if you are into that

I also know things like my heating came on for a total of 5 hours in all of September, and I can compare that to similar houses (similar size, rating + heating sytem) via a Nest report to see how my energy usage is.

Those kinds of things are useful and interesting that you might factor in to a decision to buy a smart thermostat (or not if you don't really care).

Manion · 18-10-2019 6:25pm

I could definitely see a comfort level argument.

fret_wimp2 · 18-10-2019 7:07pm

Manion wrote: »

Almost certainly not worth replacing the thermostats with smart ones just to have the temperature 2 degrees lower 9-5 Monday to Friday. Electricity bill in the heron runs to about 80 euro of which c20 is standing charge. Being extremely generous and assuming such a process would save 3% of my electricity usage that's just short of 1.8 Euros. 2 Nest thermostats cost c500 euro. It would take me just over 23 years to break even assuming i didn't need to pay someone to install them.

80 per month or per billing period (usually 2 months)? Mine is a lot more than this, even when making an effort to turn things off when not being used.

Manion · 18-10-2019 10:56pm

Just checked and it's closer to 60 euro a month during summer and 80ish during winter. Used 529 units in a two month period last bill. Maybe the turning off is costing you money. We didn't take any of the builders appliances however. Shocking energy ratings and have LEDs throughout.

Manion · 26-10-2019 2:07pm

Forumsie wrote: »

We got the kenetico system that we saw at ideal homes show. Think it cost around 1600 plus another 200 for drinking water filter tap. Expensive yes, it's meant to be the rolls royce of water softeners and we've had no problems but a cheaper one might be just as good. The water is beautifully soft and there are no limescale marks anywhere. When we first moved in we had to scrub and I mean scrub the lime off the shower doors every week. I don't know if it's an essential item or not but we're happy we got it for the longer term with the A2W heating system and the new appliances etc

How are you finding this now?

cronos · 30-10-2019 11:12am

Do we need to do anything with property tax this year for new builds?

minkey · 04-11-2019 8:30pm

Hi Cronos

No its not till next year. We looked into this because we thought it was this year too, but this is what we have been told

jocefella · 06-11-2019 10:45am

Hi Guys,

I am living in one of the houses in Royal Canal Park. I am looking at putting a water softener into the house because of the hard water in the area. Just wondering has anybody in the area installed a water softener and how have the found the results ? Or any advice would be greatly appreciated ?

theteal · 09-11-2019 6:58pm

I'm trying to help out the younger brother who is a new neighbour to ye all there in RCP. He's in a Heron iirc (3 story, 4 bed). He asking me about connection options but the info he's providing is limited.

I'm under assumption that all these shiny new houses are cabled up and will have a patch panel somewhere e.g. utility room. Is this the case? His router has been installed on the middle floor and in a picture he sent me I can see what looks to be an ethernet port on the wall - adds to the theory that there's a patch panel somewhere. Could anybody enlighten me as to where this may be, please?

johnny66179 · 13-11-2019 2:25pm

theteal wrote: »

I'm trying to help out the younger brother who is a new neighbour to ye all there in RCP. He's in a Heron iirc (3 story, 4 bed). He asking me about connection options but the info he's providing is limited.

I'm under assumption that all these shiny new houses are cabled up and will have a patch panel somewhere e.g. utility room. Is this the case? His router has been installed on the middle floor and in a picture he sent me I can see what looks to be an ethernet port on the wall - adds to the theory that there's a patch panel somewhere. Could anybody enlighten me as to where this may be, please?

All the cabling for each room goes back to the utility room. Since at least in the earlier phases the cat6 cable was just left behind a closed face plate I got an electrician in to install a RJ45 wall plate and crimp the cables. In the utility room he installed a small Ethernet switch. The broadband router is installed in the utility room and feeds this Ethernet switch. There should be a couple of posts about the process earlier in the thread.

theteal · 13-11-2019 2:41pm

johnny66179 wrote: »

All the cabling for each room goes back to the utility room. Since at least in the earlier phases the cat6 cable was just left behind a closed face plate I got an electrician in to install a RJ45 wall plate and crimp the cables. In the utility room he installed a small Ethernet switch. The broadband router is installed in the utility room and feeds this Ethernet switch. There should be a couple of posts about the process earlier in the thread.

Thank you. Could I trouble you for a picture of where the cables run to please?

The only pic I got from the brother is attached and it's not showing me much.

johnny66179 · 14-11-2019 10:31am

theteal wrote: »

Thank you. Could I trouble you for a picture of where the cables run to please?

The only pic I got from the brother is attached and it's not showing me much.

Attached is a picture, all the cabling from around the house is going into the black Etherent switch. The Vodafone broadband router feeds this.

theteal · 14-11-2019 11:15am

johnny66179 wrote: »

Attached is a picture, all the cabling from around the house is going into the black Etherent switch. The Vodafone broadband router feeds this.

Thank you. And originally the cabling was left unterminated behind a blank faceplate somewhere around that location?

Edit: I think I can see the opening in the plasterboard beneath your switch.

johnny66179 · 14-11-2019 11:20am

theteal wrote: »

Thank you. And originally the cabling was left unterminated behind a blank faceplate somewhere around that location?

Edit: I think I can see the opening in the plasterboard beneath your switch.

Yes, everything was in that opening under the switch, I cant remember now if was orginally covered by a face plate or not.

theteal · 14-11-2019 11:35am

johnny66179 wrote: »

Yes, everything was in that opening under the switch, I cant remember now if was orginally covered by a face plate or not.

OK, cheers, that's plenty to work with. Thanks for taking the time.

Manion · 12-12-2019 11:29am

Does anyone has the details of a service engineer for the Joule heating system. Joule themselves indicated it will be next year before I can get a service.

Forumsie · 18-01-2020 6:27pm

Hi folks,

Long time no post! I ran out of money for house improvements! But there is one more job I want to do this year, I want to put coving in the sitting room (of a heron) with LED lighting (preferably on a dimmer) behind it. Currently the room is too bright with the main light on even though it's on a dimmer and lamps just create a reflection on the TV. Also I really like the look of coving with light behind it for ambience. Has anyone done this? I'm aware that I'll need both a carpenter and an electrician which makes it difficult to coordinate, it's hard enough to get one of them to show up. If anyone has done this can you give me an estimate of cost and the effort/mess involved? I literally have no idea how much or long it would take.

Many thanks

dovetail · 29-01-2020 4:43pm

hello! can anybody recommend a Dublin based solicitor to do the legal paperwork for a mortgage provider switch on a property in RCP?

Chumpski · 04-02-2020 12:31pm

Has anybody had trouble with their patio door warping?

Ours has warped and is letting in a bad cold draft into the kitchen.

Been in the house since 2016 so we are past Ballymores 18 months and Munster Joinerys 12 months.

But this is not good, surely a fault in the house or door?

cronos · 05-02-2020 6:19pm

Forumsie wrote: »

Hi folks,

Long time no post! I ran out of money for house improvements! But there is one more job I want to do this year, I want to put coving in the sitting room (of a heron) with LED lighting (preferably on a dimmer) behind it. Currently the room is too bright with the main light on even though it's on a dimmer and lamps just create a reflection on the TV. Also I really like the look of coving with light behind it for ambience. Has anyone done this? I'm aware that I'll need both a carpenter and an electrician which makes it difficult to coordinate, it's hard enough to get one of them to show up. If anyone has done this can you give me an estimate of cost and the effort/mess involved? I literally have no idea how much or long it would take.

Many thanks

Did you get anywhere with this? I'm just curious, don't know anything about it.

Manion · 07-02-2020 8:17am

Chumpski wrote: »

Has anybody had trouble with their patio door warping?

Ours has warped and is letting in a bad cold draft into the kitchen.

Been in the house since 2016 so we are past Ballymores 18 months and Munster Joinerys 12 months.

But this is not good, surely a fault in the house or door?

In what way is it warping? Is this from water damage?

Chumpski · 07-02-2020 9:53pm

Manion wrote: »

In what way is it warping? Is this from water damage?

No maybe from hot/cold weather, or maybe it got damaged at some point. I don’t know for sure. Just wondering if anyone else had similar problem.

dovetail · 19-02-2020 9:57pm

Has anybody had any trouble with rusty discoloration starting to show through the white enamel on their bath tub?

It started on mine. its quite patchy, not just confined to a small area. I guess rust is starting underneath the enamel. thought it was a little strange that this should happen.

Manion · 17-03-2020 11:00pm

Hey, any recommendations on a plumber who could fix the shower fittings. They're embedded in the wall in some kind of membrane and I'd rather get someone whose familiar with this setup.

kj72 · 19-03-2020 9:59pm

Hi, could anyone give a current update on broadband availability in the area (Camden avenue) - with the working at home lark I need to get sorted. Many thanks to anyone who can give an update. Kj

Manion · 23-03-2020 8:17pm

Same as it ever was, you need to get a Eir reseller or cable watch.

kj72 · 23-03-2020 9:48pm

Manion wrote: »

Same as it ever was, you need to get a Eir reseller or cable watch.

Thanks - what's an 'eir reseller'? Not too well up on this stuff

kj72 · 23-03-2020 9:48pm

Manion wrote: »

Same as it ever was, you need to get a Eir reseller or cable watch.

Thanks - what's an 'eir reseller'? Not too well up on this stuff

Manion · 05-04-2020 7:27pm

Basically for DSL you have really only one provider, Eir (OpenEir) all the other sellers like Vodafone, Magnet, Pure Telecom, etc are reselling this service.

fret_wimp2 · 05-04-2020 7:41pm

Manion wrote: »

Basically for DSL you have really only one provider, Eir (OpenEir) all the other sellers like Vodafone, Magnet, Pure Telecom, etc are reselling this service.

I will add that although all the sellers are piggybacking on Eir infrastructure, if you value your time, go through anyone except eir.

We tried eir first.

They needed us to be at home to come test the line. they didnt show. half day wasted.

Tried again, they didnt show. another half day wasted.

They turned up the 3rd time, said the cables were not laid. I dont know how the guys in the office couldnt tell this from whatever systems they use.

5 weeks later, cables laid we get an account and need to be home for the guy to come connect us. this time we have to be home all day as he cant narrow down the fitting window. Thankfully he came.

Internet wouldnt work, they had difficulty setting up our account.

5+ calls at an hour each and all they managed was to bill us for a service we were not getting.

2 weeks of this and i wanted to cancel, again took about 3 hours of calls. one chap eventually realized they set up 2 accounts for us and neither were complete. he cancelled both.

called vodafone on the wednesday. had our router and were online by friday.

CBear1993 · 22-05-2020 4:58pm

I had sky tv & broadband on pellestown avenue/phelan avenue apartment. Sky was brilliant for the last year, never any issues. However my 1st year I got €59 per month.

Looking to go upto €95 per month and the best I could get them down to was €83.50 PM.

Still cancelling and getting one of those recordable boxes in. Going to give vodafone a go for the broadband now.

Manion · 30-06-2020 1:53pm

So they've started working through the night on the train station. The Following condition was placed on the planning permission.

C340 Hours of work:

7. (a) The site and building works required to implement the development shall only be carried out between the hours of: Mondays to Fridays - 7.00a.m. to 6.00p.m. Saturday - 8.00a.m. to 2.00p.m. Sundays and Public Holidays - No activity on site. (b) Deviation from these times will only be allowed in exceptional circumstances where prior written approval has been received from Dublin City Council. Such approval may be given subject to conditions pertaining to the particular circumstances being set by Dublin City Council. Reason: In order to safeguard the amenities of adjoining residential occupiers.

Orginal:
http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=2109/13&SearchID=1

Revised planning permission
http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=2310/18&theTabNo=2

You can contact Dublin city council on 01 2222 149 to lodge a complaint.

CBear1993 · 30-06-2020 2:20pm

Manion wrote: »

So they've started working through the night on the train station. The Following condition was placed on the planning permission.

C340 Hours of work:

Orginal:
http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=2109/13&SearchID=1

Revised planning permission
http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=2310/18&theTabNo=2

You can contact Dublin city council on 01 2222 149 to lodge a complaint.

Are you hearing it at night? Haven't heard anything yet myself.

It is Ireland's biggest contractor, we're talking billions, John Sisk & Son. I'd imagine they're well in bed with TII and will do what they want unfortunately.
Sure if it gets the new station here faster and it isn't causing too much of a disruption to residents then so be it.
I don't live on that row of houses in front of the site so I can't say. Maybe they're hearing the vibration and machines non-stop daily.

Manion · 30-06-2020 2:36pm

Unfortunately my call to DCC timed out after 1 hour on hold. Might need to go in. We live on Royal canal avenue and the noise is quiet disruptive to a decent nights sleep, they've no right to be working through the night and are specifically constrained by the planning permission granted. Not looking forward to a year of interrupted sleep so SISK can make their bonus payment dates.

CBear1993 · 30-06-2020 2:40pm

Manion wrote: »

Unfortunately my call to DCC timed out after 1 hour on hold. Might need to go in. We live on Royal canal avenue and the noise is quiet disruptive to a decent nights sleep, they've no right to be working through the night and are specifically constrained by the planning permission granted. Not looking forward to a year of interrupted sleep so SISK can make their bonus payment dates.

1 hour :eek:

Yeah that's not on at all, as you say they don't give a hoot about residents. Whacking up a bit of timber hoarding there over the last few weeks and a lick of paint on it I see, you'd think they'd invest in something that's half decent to look at, promoting the new rail line, a graphic type.

Manion · 30-06-2020 3:06pm

I've emailed all our local councillors and also sent an email off to: customerservices@dublincity.ie

https://councilmeetings.dublincity.ie/mgFindMember.aspx?XXR=0&AC=WARD&WID=13093

Frankly the time is now to make an issue of this. I grew up in another part of Dublin also close to a train line. We had strong community action and Iarnrod Eireann knew not to take residents for granted. There are also noise constraints placed on the train station operation.

The windows installed in Royal Canal Park are mostly Munster joinery, with pretty standard acoustic properties. I've been quoted upwards of 5K to replace one set of windows in the main bedroom with acoustic glass.

CBear1993 · 30-06-2020 3:11pm

Manion wrote: »

I've emailed all our local councillors and also sent an email off to: customerservices@dublincity.ie

https://councilmeetings.dublincity.ie/mgFindMember.aspx?XXR=0&AC=WARD&WID=13093

Frankly the time is now to make an issue of this. I grew up in another part of Dublin also close to a train line. We had strong community action and Iarnrod Eireann knew not to take residents for granted. There are also noise constraints placed on the train station operation.

The windows installed in Royal Canal Park are mostly Munster joinery, with pretty standard acoustic properties. I've been quoted upwards of 5K to replace one set of windows in the main bedroom with acoustic glass.

Disgrace that you even have to consider doing that though, no one should have to change the external facade of their house for construction works.

Are you in the facebook group? Royal canal & rathborne residents forum. I would post that link in there to make a complaint and I and hopefully many others will lodge a complaint with you.

Manion · 30-06-2020 3:15pm

No I'm not on the facebook group, but will look into it. Here is a taste of what we're putting up with when trying to get to sleep last night.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/pjw2a1BZsEq3Hnn36
https://photos.app.goo.gl/xU2tLa8uNzKaZg8GA

CBear1993 · 30-06-2020 3:21pm

That's a joke, really annoying that, I feel your pain.

What annoys me more is that I work in construction and these lads are doing the bare minimum on these nightshifts I can guarantee you. It's all about more money for SISK. they'll tell you that the night shifts are needed to meet their programme dates. That's bull****, let them do their 6/7am -7/8pm in the evenings now during the summer.
Anyone who tells me they work hard on nightshift is a bluffer. They're tipping around there in your video on big night rates.

Definitely get into that forum, it's actually a great community on there and if you share a detailed post explaining the situation I can guarantee everyone will pull together and complain, hopefully DCC Will sit up and take notice then. There's a few local councillors in the forum as well, it will do no harm to see everyone voice their anger at it.

If you need any info on getting into it DM me but I believe it's straight forward from memory.

Manion · 30-06-2020 4:50pm

So our local green councillor Darcy Lonergan got back to me right away and has contacted Iarnrod Eireann who responded that they will get onto SISK. Good result so far.

Manion · 30-06-2020 8:31pm

OK, so Darcy got a response from them indicating the night time work will continue for the next 4 weeks. Apparently a letter was sent to residents but we never received it. I've sent them back a written complaint as well.

SISK Letter attached.

PhoenixParker · 30-06-2020 8:52pm

CBear1993 wrote: »

That's a joke, really annoying that, I feel your pain.

What annoys me more is that I work in construction and these lads are doing the bare minimum on these nightshifts I can guarantee you. It's all about more money for SISK. they'll tell you that the night shifts are needed to meet their programme dates. That's bull****, let them do their 6/7am -7/8pm in the evenings now during the summer.
Anyone who tells me they work hard on nightshift is a bluffer. They're tipping around there in your video on big night rates.

Definitely get into that forum, it's actually a great community on there and if you share a detailed post explaining the situation I can guarantee everyone will pull together and complain, hopefully DCC Will sit up and take notice then. There's a few local councillors in the forum as well, it will do no harm to see everyone voice their anger at it.

If you need any info on getting into it DM me but I believe it's straight forward from memory.

Generally works on and beside a rail line will need night shifts at various stages.

Whether they're required right now or whether the noise is excessive I can't say but there will need to be at least some night works to get the platforms and bridges built.

Nighttime is the only time they can get a decent stretch of time to work on the railway unless they close the line or work Christmas day.

Manion · 30-06-2020 9:07pm

PhoenixParker wrote: »

Generally works on and beside a rail line will need night shifts at various stages.

Whether they're required right now or whether the noise is excessive I can't say but there will need to be at least some night works to get the platforms and bridges built.

Nighttime is the only time they can get a decent stretch of time to work on the railway unless they close the line or work Christmas day.

I think there is something in between. I've lived most of my life near railway lines but what I witness last night was excessive. I saw one lad drive a digger from one end of the site to the other and back again a half hour later having done nothing with it, at another point my home was lit up by a flood light. They need to be aware they are working in a residential area and just because they has a job to do doesn't meant they can be oblivious to the impact they are having on the environment around them. The planning permission when granted set out the working hours and that operating beyond those hours is exceptional, for the majority of the work last night there where trains on the line.

New Development Royal Canal Park D15

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