Kevin Lunneys alleged attacker dies

SafeSurfer · 08-11-2019 5:17pm

Quinn has cost the citizens of this state over €3.5 billion between covering his investment losses and the insurance levy. In the past I felt sympathetic towards the Quinns.
Not any more.

Mad_maxx · 08-11-2019 5:24pm

celt262 wrote: »

I don't care who is on that list, it but is that not what he was up to?

So what's your point?

is_that_so · 08-11-2019 5:24pm

TuringBot47 wrote: »

Do the English have the equivalent of the CAB, to confiscate his house and assets from that side?

Yes they do. It's modelled on CAB. French and Dutch have similar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assets_Recovery_Agency

Mad_maxx · 08-11-2019 5:25pm

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Quinn has cost the citizens of this state over €3.5 billion between covering his investment losses and the insurance levy. In the past I felt sympathetic towards the Quinns.
Not any more.

How anyone could have ever had an ounce of sympathy is beyond me.

is_that_so · 08-11-2019 5:27pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

How anyone could have ever had an ounce of sympathy is beyond me.

Local "saintly" man who made good and was screwed. Plenty of examples of it in this country!

Odyssey 2005 · 08-11-2019 5:28pm

Wouldn't imagine there was a que of coppers to give him CPR !

is_that_so · 08-11-2019 5:30pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Wouldn't imagine there was a que of coppers to give him CPR !

They were in shock themselves and couldn't move!

padd b1975 · 08-11-2019 5:33pm

"Once recruited by MI5".

Show me a Provo and I'll show you a tout.

Harry Palmr · 08-11-2019 5:37pm

Just another example of how the paramilitaries continue to be a malign influence on wider society.

HBC08 · 08-11-2019 5:38pm

Silly Gilly wrote: »

I think the Police may have tasered him which lead to the heart attack and subsequent pissing himself.

Read the article,neither restrained or tasered.

Just sh1t the togs and keeled over when someone came knocking on his door.

Delighted for him

tayto lover · 08-11-2019 5:39pm

macwal wrote: »

One article I read in the past few minutes describes the police as finding a "treasure trove" of information at the house in Derbyshire.

Hopefully its true, and destroys the lives of these criminals and their families and associates.

I can’t imagine that the suspect who died would have been computer savvy enough to cover his tracks either. I’d actually say that most of the stuff found in his safe house was in written form.

facehugger99 · 08-11-2019 5:42pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

"Once recruited by MI5".

Show me a Provo and I'll show you a tout.

For most of those scumbags, Irish nationalism is a handy flag of convenience that allows them to indulge in their criminal and psychopathic acts.

They are bullies and cowards and wouldn't think twice about grassing up their own.

Loafing Oaf · 08-11-2019 5:45pm

I'd say it was across the water he picked up the Dublin Jimmy sobriquet. Any Irish person would take one look at the lad and surmise he wasn't reared anywhere near the big smoke:p

Letwin_Larry · 08-11-2019 5:46pm

tayto lover wrote: »

I can’t imagine that the suspect who died would have been computer savvy enough to cover his tracks either. I’d actually say that most of the stuff found in his safe house was in written form.

tbh i cant even imagine that fat gorilla being able to use a PC.

tayto lover · 08-11-2019 5:47pm

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

!

How the Hell was he not still in prison?
The court system is a joke.

AllForIt · 08-11-2019 5:49pm

facehugger99 wrote: »

For most of those scumbags, Irish nationalism is a handy flag of convenience that allows them to indulge in their criminal and psychopathic acts.

Truer word never said and not said often enough. Nobody scumbags trying to make a name for themselves cuz they can't cut it in the real world.

He's a hard man now but not in the sense he wished for.

Oxter · 08-11-2019 6:00pm

, unbelievable the gardai weren't able to do anything to him in the past five years.[/quote]

To say they didnt want to do anything would be more accurate!

NIMAN · 08-11-2019 6:04pm

Oxter wrote: »

, unbelievable the gardai weren't able to do anything to him in the past five years.

To say they didnt want to do anything would be more accurate![/QUOTE]

Without the Gardai intel, the raid in the UK wouldn't have happened.

fryup · 08-11-2019 6:19pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

, my only regret is his loss as a source of information to the paymasters.

a lot of secrets died with him

nuac · 08-11-2019 6:22pm

terrydel wrote: »

Our police service are a laughing stock.

Why do you claim that?

Deise Vu · 08-11-2019 6:26pm

tayto lover wrote: »

I can’t imagine that the suspect who died would have been computer savvy enough to cover his tracks either. I’d actually say that most of the stuff found in his safe house was in written form.

Judging by the laughable intimidatory signs that were put up, he didn’t know how to use spellchecker anyway. I wonder if the treasure trove of information found my the police includes his household budget with his “salery and expences” on it. Fugging moron.

dontpanic · 08-11-2019 6:27pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

Can someone tell this simpleton why he was attacked, and by whom? Without speaking in code and nudge nudge wink winking I live too far away to understand border talk!

A commenter posted this on The Guardian Facebook for someone asking the same and I thought it was really helpful (not sure if it's correct though as I also don't know the situation well)

"I live on the border with Northern Ireland. This story is really complicated, and connected with the crash in 2008. The original owner of this company, Sean Quinn, was at the time the richest man in Ireland. He unfortunately tried to make money in the futures markets backing a bank called Anglo Irish Bank, who were the most exposed bank in Ireland when the banks crashed, and lost everything. He lost so much that all of his companies were declared bankrupt and were shut down. fast forward about five years, and the building industry in Ireland started to pick up again. A group of his former company directors got together and tried to raise the finances to reopen the building supply wing of his companies. Sean Quinn wanted back in, but his name was so tarnished that their financial advisers told them that they wouldn't be able to raise any capital if he was associated with the attempt, so they refused him. They raised the capital to reopen and did. Here's where it gets complicated. Sean Quinn established his empire during the Troubles in Ireland. One of the main sources of income for terrorists during the Troubles was "protection money", money paid to terrorist groups to "protect" your business (pure mafia). Sean Quinn grew up in this environment, so he paid. When the company reopened, terrorist groups who formerly received protection payments thought the golden goose was back, so they contacted the new owners to tell them what their protection bill would be. The new board refused to pay. This attack is the latest escalation in an attempt by Irish gangsters to force a company to pay them. They cut this man to ribbons, then poured bleach in his wounds. They broke his leg with a fence post, then hit it again because they didn't hear the snap. They slashed under his fingernails with a box knife then dipped his hands in bleach. They carved the initials of his company into his chest with a box knife. They then dumped him in a ditch at the side of a rarely used country road in the middle of nowhere, but away from beside the road, in a grass verge, hoping he would be found dead (a common practice for informers during the Troubles in Ireland). This is literally the bare bones of the story. Hope it helps you to understand why certainly on this occasion, businessmen are not the enemy."

JohnnyFlash · 08-11-2019 6:33pm

Was he a ‘good Republican’?

JohnnyFlash · 08-11-2019 6:33pm

Was he a ‘good Republican’?

Rashers Big Log · 08-11-2019 6:33pm

Would almost never say this about any human being but delighted this violent, pathetic POS died in a pool of his own piss.

pgj2015 · 08-11-2019 6:39pm

“We understand that the officers were executing a warrant at the property at around 7.30am when the man, aged in his 50s, became unwell. He was taken to a hospital where sadly he was later pronounced dead. We declared an independent investigation late this morning after we were contacted by the force and we have sent investigators to the property and to the police post incident procedure to begin gathering information.”#

LOL

NasserShammaz · 08-11-2019 6:45pm

Mary Lou and Sean Quinn are the same funeral...

Still waters · 08-11-2019 6:59pm

I wonder will there be scum in balaclavas at his funeral

NasserShammaz · 08-11-2019 7:43pm

Still waters wrote: »

I wonder will there be scum in balaclavas at his funeral

That will be the Quinn family

NewRed2 · 08-11-2019 7:49pm

radharc wrote: »

I googled his name and the first image that came up was a Sunday World front page from 2014 identifying him as the ringleader of the attacks on the Quinn businesses. 2014 for **** sake, unbelievable the gardai weren't able to do anything to him in the past five years.

Judges let off scot free OR hand down far too lenient sentences for scumbags all the time which must frustrate the hell out of the Gardai as well as the public.
So.... in this instance maybe it worked out for the best. He's gone now and can't do any more harm from a prison cell or early release etc....
I'd call it a win. Even if it took longer than it should have.

Dyr · 08-11-2019 8:06pm

dontpanic wrote: »

A commenter posted this on The Guardian Facebook for someone asking the same and I thought it was really helpful (not sure if it's correct though as I also don't know the situation well)

"I live on the border with Northern Ireland. This story is really complicated, and connected with the crash in 2008. The original owner of this company, Sean Quinn, was at the time the richest man in Ireland. He unfortunately tried to make money in the futures markets backing a bank called Anglo Irish Bank, who were the most exposed bank in Ireland when the banks crashed, and lost everything. He lost so much that all of his companies were declared bankrupt and were shut down. fast forward about five years, and the building industry in Ireland started to pick up again. A group of his former company directors got together and tried to raise the finances to reopen the building supply wing of his companies. Sean Quinn wanted back in, but his name was so tarnished that their financial advisers told them that they wouldn't be able to raise any capital if he was associated with the attempt, so they refused him. They raised the capital to reopen and did. Here's where it gets complicated. Sean Quinn established his empire during the Troubles in Ireland. One of the main sources of income for terrorists during the Troubles was "protection money", money paid to terrorist groups to "protect" your business (pure mafia). Sean Quinn grew up in this environment, so he paid. When the company reopened, terrorist groups who formerly received protection payments thought the golden goose was back, so they contacted the new owners to tell them what their protection bill would be. The new board refused to pay. This attack is the latest escalation in an attempt by Irish gangsters to force a company to pay them. They cut this man to ribbons, then poured bleach in his wounds. They broke his leg with a fence post, then hit it again because they didn't hear the snap. They slashed under his fingernails with a box knife then dipped his hands in bleach. They carved the initials of his company into his chest with a box knife. They then dumped him in a ditch at the side of a rarely used country road in the middle of nowhere, but away from beside the road, in a grass verge, hoping he would be found dead (a common practice for informers during the Troubles in Ireland). This is literally the bare bones of the story. Hope it helps you to understand why certainly on this occasion, businessmen are not the enemy."

The good people of Fermanagh call a stanley knife a box knife?

Ipso · 08-11-2019 8:22pm

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Quinn has cost the citizens of this state over €3.5 billion between covering his investment losses and the insurance levy. In the past I felt sympathetic towards the Quinns.
Not any more.

I thought all the people that attended the marches in support of him paid for it themselves, if they supported him that much then it would be the right thing to do.

Berserker · 08-11-2019 8:30pm

Still waters wrote: »

I wonder will there be scum in balaclavas at his funeral

Depends on how good a republican he was.

Ipso wrote: »

I thought all the people that attended the marches in support of him paid for it themselves, if they supported him that much then it would be the right thing to do.

Coming from that part of the island, I doubt it.

John_Rambo · 08-11-2019 8:32pm

Imagine they had a Stanley knife and a leg breaking bat?

Obviously Lunney's stronger, fitter & made of tougher stuff than this departed gentleman.

Andrew00 · 08-11-2019 8:32pm

Ur man who died is probably the ugliest c*nt I've ever seen. Can't think of many more uglier people than that

TCM · 08-11-2019 8:33pm

Good result all round.

dontpanic · 08-11-2019 8:39pm

Bambi wrote: »

The good people of Fermanagh call a stanley knife a box knife?

The person who asked wasn't Irish (usa I think but I can't quite remember) so the person who answered likely used a more widely understood term in the explanation.

If you like I can go back to the comments thread and ask if they say box cutter or stanley knife in Fermanagh :P

SafeSurfer · 08-11-2019 8:46pm

dontpanic wrote: »

A commenter posted this on The Guardian Facebook for someone asking the same and I thought it was really helpful (not sure if it's correct though as I also don't know the situation well)

"I live on the border with Northern Ireland. This story is really complicated, and connected with the crash in 2008. The original owner of this company, Sean Quinn, was at the time the richest man in Ireland. He unfortunately tried to make money in the futures markets backing a bank called Anglo Irish Bank, who were the most exposed bank in Ireland when the banks crashed, and lost everything. He lost so much that all of his companies were declared bankrupt and were shut down. fast forward about five years, and the building industry in Ireland started to pick up again. A group of his former company directors got together and tried to raise the finances to reopen the building supply wing of his companies. Sean Quinn wanted back in, but his name was so tarnished that their financial advisers told them that they wouldn't be able to raise any capital if he was associated with the attempt, so they refused him. They raised the capital to reopen and did. Here's where it gets complicated. Sean Quinn established his empire during the Troubles in Ireland. One of the main sources of income for terrorists during the Troubles was "protection money", money paid to terrorist groups to "protect" your business (pure mafia). Sean Quinn grew up in this environment, so he paid. When the company reopened, terrorist groups who formerly received protection payments thought the golden goose was back, so they contacted the new owners to tell them what their protection bill would be. The new board refused to pay. This attack is the latest escalation in an attempt by Irish gangsters to force a company to pay them. They cut this man to ribbons, then poured bleach in his wounds. They broke his leg with a fence post, then hit it again because they didn't hear the snap. They slashed under his fingernails with a box knife then dipped his hands in bleach. They carved the initials of his company into his chest with a box knife. They then dumped him in a ditch at the side of a rarely used country road in the middle of nowhere, but away from beside the road, in a grass verge, hoping he would be found dead (a common practice for informers during the Troubles in Ireland). This is literally the bare bones of the story. Hope it helps you to understand II are qQyt t savages why i Was d certainly on this occasion, businessmen are not the enemy."

This version of events doesn’t quite gel with the understanding of what is happening on the ground. The people carrying out the attacks aren’t doing so because they haven’t been paid protection money. They are doing so because they are being paid by someone who wants the management driven out.

dontpanic · 08-11-2019 8:49pm

SafeSurfer wrote: »

This version of events doesn’t quite gel with the understanding of what is happening on the ground. The people carrying out the attacks aren’t doing so because they haven’t been paid protection money. They are doing so because they are being paid by someone who wants the management driven out.

Interesting. Would love to hear more if there is another explanation or theory you know of?

Nekarsulm · 08-11-2019 9:24pm

dontpanic wrote: »

Interesting. Would love to hear more if there is another explanation or theory you know of?

If the Americian backers decided to off-load QIH at below market value, there probably isn't a person within 200 miles who would be shocked if Sean Quinn emerged as the buyer.
And that article isn't really accurate, it's not like the place was shut down and mothballed.
Cyril McGuinnesses brother rammed a burning Jeep Cheokee , loaded with old tyres, into the foyer of the Quinn Packaging factory, causing 6000000 euro of damage four years ago.
30 people were inside at the time.
The glass factory was bought by a Spanish firm.
Was talking to a concrete contractor two weeks ago and he claims the quality of the concrete is better now than under Quinn, and the drivers now have a bit of manners when delivering.

NasserShammaz · 08-11-2019 9:41pm

Nekarsulm wrote: »

If the Americian backers decided to off-load QIH at below market value, there probably is a person within 200 miles who would be shocked if Sean Quinn emerged as the buyer.
And that article isn't really accurate, it's not like the place was shut down and mothballed.
Cyril McGuinnesses brother rammed a burning Jeep Cheokee , loaded with old tyres, into the foyer of the Quinn Packaging factory, causing 6000000 euro of damage four years ago.
30 people were inside at the time.
The glass factory was bought by a Spanish firm.
Was talking to a concrete contractor two weeks ago and he claims the quality of the concrete is better now than under Quinn, and the drivers now have a bit of manners when delivering.

If that did happen would the people in the area happily continue working with the company and it's off shoots as if nothing has happened ?

Larbre34 · 08-11-2019 9:51pm

Andrew00 wrote: »

Ur man who died is probably the ugliest c*nt I've ever seen. Can't think of many more uglier people than that

A cold black heart always shows itself in the face of its bearer.

08-11-2019 9:53pm

NasserShammaz wrote: »

If that did happen would the people in the area happily continue working with the company and it's off shoots as if nothing has happened ?

There's damn all other industry in the area, so if they've a mortgage to pay and kids to feed most probably would.

milehip · 08-11-2019 9:58pm

is_that_so wrote: »

Local "saintly" man who made good and was screwed. Plenty of examples of it in this country!

Sure doesn't he own the pub,the post office,the hardware and the undertaker's and employs plenty of the local 5-bellied, neer-do-well,wannabe hardmen who think the sun shines out of his holy hole.

Nearly every ****hole town in the country has one of his kind.

John_Rambo · 08-11-2019 10:00pm

NasserShammaz wrote: »

If that did happen would the people in the area happily continue working with the company and it's off shoots as if nothing has happened ?

Whatever happened, the new management are sustaining employment in an area with not a lot of other options. Realistically, they should be forwarded the same if not more respect than the previous (dodgy risk taking) owners of the companies.

terrydel · 08-11-2019 10:14pm

Letwin_Larry wrote: »

well if they ever decide to make a movie about this guy, and god only knows why, then they wont have far to look .....

I thought you were selling drugs.....

terrydel · 08-11-2019 10:18pm

AllForIt wrote: »

Truer word never said and not said often enough. Nobody scumbags trying to make a name for themselves cuz they can't cut it in the real world.

He's a hard man now but not in the sense he wished for.

Remember Johnny adare saying if he was born Catholic he'd be fighting for the other lot. That behaviour is in the genes. Scumbags most of them.

terrydel · 08-11-2019 10:23pm

nuac wrote: »

Why do you claim that?

Many reasons, the fact this has been going on for years unchecked.

The institutional smearing of Maurice mccabe for the crime of going against the cult.
The institutional, widespread epidemic of falsified breath tests for which not one person was punished, fired or disciplined.
The accounting scandal at the garda college, again nobody got so much as a smack on the wrist.
The fact that since 2004 1 in 10 garda have made claims for injury incurred while performing their duties, way above any other profession.
Etc

high_king · 08-11-2019 10:33pm

Letwin_Larry wrote: »

what the fool didn't realise is the attack on Mr. Lunney, had wider economic implications. ie the ability/willingness of MNCs/FDI to locate in the border area and perhaps beyond.
he effectively attracted a hugh $hitstorm on his head, on both sides of the border and on both islands.

You can be sure if it was done to some poor lorry driver there wouldn't be a word about it.

high_king · 08-11-2019 10:35pm

NIMAN wrote: »

... and in the end it was our useless police force who actually provided the intel to the UK team to break down his door.

They had no idea about him, who he was or what he had done.

Took the English cops to arrest him and do anything about it though. They are not as easily hampered and called off as the soft soap Irish ones only good for collecting motor tax and speeding fines. There many areas all over Ireland that are effectively un-policed.

Kevin Lunneys alleged attacker dies

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