Kevin Lunneys alleged attacker dies

Cee-Jay-Cee

Apparently, the scumbag who ordered the attack on Kevin Lunney died of a heart attack when his 'safe house' was raided by police in the UK.

Can I be the first to say...Delighted!! I hope the scumabg cowards who carried out the attack suffer worse fate and die in severe pain/agony.

The only gripe I have with the headline is that they refer to him as a Mastermind rather than a coward. He didn't mastermind anything, it didn't take some super intelligence to carry out, he paid a bunch of thugs to watch Kevin Lunney and learn his movements, they then attacked, kid-napped and tortured him. Nothing 'mastermind' about it.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/alleged-mastermind-of-kevin-lunney-abduction-dies-of-heart-attack-during-police-raid-38673381.html

alchemist33

Doubt its true, but good riddance

saves the costs of trying him and us paying for it

good riddance.

great riddance in fact.

billymitchell

That's a shame

lawred2

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Apparently, the scumbag who ordered the attack on Kevin Lunney died of a heart attack when his 'safe house' was raided by police in the UK.

Can I be the first to say...Delighted!! I hope the scumabg cowards who carried out the attack suffer worse fate and die in severe pain/agony.

The only gripe I have with the headline is that they refer to him as a Mastermind rather than a coward. He didn't mastermind anything, it didn't take some super intelligence to carry out, he paid a bunch of thugs to watch Kevin Lunney and learn his movements, they then attacked, kid-napped and tortured him. Nothing 'mastermind' about it.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/alleged-mastermind-of-kevin-lunney-abduction-dies-of-heart-attack-during-police-raid-38673381.html

how did they figure out who the top guy was so quickly?

debok

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Apparently, the scumbag who ordered the attack on Kevin Lunney died of a heart attack when his 'safe house' was raided by police in the UK.

Can I be the first to say...Delighted!! I hope the scumabg cowards who carried out the attack suffer worse fate and die in severe pain/agony.

The only gripe I have with the headline is that they refer to him as a Mastermind rather than a coward. He didn't mastermind anything, it didn't take some super intelligence to carry out, he paid a bunch of thugs to watch Kevin Lunney and learn his movements, they then attacked, kid-napped and tortured him. Nothing 'mastermind' about it.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/alleged-mastermind-of-kevin-lunney-abduction-dies-of-heart-attack-during-police-raid-38673381.html

I think your reading it in your offended mind. There not complimenting him by calling him mastermind. It's simply the term used to describe the person that planned out an attack or the person who wanted the attack to take place.
Hope he rots btw.

celt262

lawred2 wrote: »

how did they figure out who the top guy was so quickly?

They knew for years.

radharc

lawred2 wrote: »

how did they figure out who the top guy was so quickly?

I googled his name and the first image that came up was a Sunday World front page from 2014 identifying him as the ringleader of the attacks on the Quinn businesses. 2014 for **** sake, unbelievable the gardai weren't able to do anything to him in the past five years.

celt262

radharc wrote: »

I googled his name and the first image that came up was a Sunday World front page from 2014 identifying him as the ringleader of the attacks on the Quinn businesses. 2014 for **** sake, unbelievable the gardai weren't able to do anything to him in the past five years.

They were as much afraid of him as the directors. Local guards got no support.

Beechwoodspark

Very inconvient if this is true.

lawred2

celt262 wrote: »

They knew for years.

I didn't ask how long they have known about him.

I asked how they know that he was the one who ordered the attack on Kevin Lunney. I mean 'real evidence' know.

Cee-Jay-Cee

celt262 wrote: »

They were as much afraid of him as the directors. Local guards got no support.

Local guards and their families were threatened and intimidated. One Guard in Bawnboy Co Cavan had his car torched at the front of his home. He and his wife and children had to move as a result of it.

The gardai have known for years who he was, they just couldn't find enough evidence to prosecute him as no one would speak against him or offer evidence for fear of reprisals.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/crossborder-arsonist-paid-20000-a-time-for-70-attacks-on-quinn-firms-38566764.html

Snickers Man

The Indo only says he was the agent of the assault on Lunney. He was "retained" to do the task by "The Paymaster", who is clearly the real scumbag. And we still don't know who he is.

Or do we but just can't say out loud?

SafeSurfer

Snickers Man wrote: »

The Indo only says he was the agent of the assault on Lunney. He was "retained" to do the task by "The Paymaster", who is clearly the real scumbag. And we still don't know who he is.

Or do we but just can't say out loud?

I think it is obvious to many people who the paymaster is.

biko

The lord works in mysterious ways.

NIMAN

radharc wrote: »

I googled his name and the first image that came up was a Sunday World front page from 2014 identifying him as the ringleader of the attacks on the Quinn businesses. 2014 for **** sake, unbelievable the gardai weren't able to do anything to him in the past five years.

Is this a dig at the Gardai?

Obviously this guy was clever enough to not give the Gardai enough evidence to ever charge him with.

Many terrorists and gang leaders are able to do this.

Raconteuse

Can someone tell this simpleton why he was attacked, and by whom? Without speaking in code and nudge nudge wink winking I live too far away to understand border talk!

radharc

NIMAN wrote: »

Is this a dig at the Gardai?

Obviously this guy was clever enough to not give the Gardai enough evidence to ever charge him with.

Many terrorists and gang leaders are able to do this.

Oh well that's fair enough then. We shouldn't expect the gardai to be able to catch the clever criminals.

TuringBot47

Do the English have the equivalent of the CAB, to confiscate his house and assets from that side?

TheRepentent

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/alleged-mastermind-of-kevin-lunney-abduction-dies-of-heart-attack-during-police-raid-38673381.html

Any chance youcan copy/paste the important part of the report...not a hope in fuk am I gonna register with that rag

EDIT: link to bbc --> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-50344964

terrydel

radharc wrote: »

I googled his name and the first image that came up was a Sunday World front page from 2014 identifying him as the ringleader of the attacks on the Quinn businesses. 2014 for **** sake, unbelievable the gardai weren't able to do anything to him in the past five years.

Our police service are a laughing stock.

Letwin_Larry

it's kinda ironic that this thug had no problem terrorizing innocent folk, but the minute his own privacy and security is breached he drops dead.

a typical bully just like so many that operated in the border area during the troubles.
they're big men when they're terrorising innocent law abiding people, threatening their families, their young children, but not so big when they come face to face with real men.

Mad_maxx

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I think it is obvious to many people who the paymaster is.

We can't know for sure who the "paymaster" is

On another note, Sean quinn was a terrible stock picker, i mean putting it all on Anglo Irish Bank, pick apple or coca cola ffs

celt262

Mad_maxx wrote: »

We can't know for sure who the "paymaster" is

On another note, Sean quinn was a terrible stock picker, i mean putting it all on Anglo Irish Bank, pick apple or coca cola ffs

Was he not trying to take control of the bank.

Mad_maxx

celt262 wrote: »

Was he not trying to take control of the bank.

Name anyone on the forbes 500 list who owns a bank ( bar a Saudi Prince)?, it was hardly a wise ambition

AlanG

Raconteuse wrote: »

Can someone tell this simpleton why he was attacked, and by whom? Without speaking in code and nudge nudge wink winking I live too far away to understand border talk!

According to locals someone who wants to get control of the company and has a lot of connections wants to drive down the value so that his family can use money they have hidden in Eastern Europe to buy QIH.
These connections were built up through years of paying cash to local "security consultants". These consultants are no longer getting their payoffs as that person can not get their hands on money so easily.

Cee-Jay-Cee

TheRepentent wrote: »

Any chance youcan copy/paste the important part of the report...not a hope in fuk am I gonna register with that rag

EDIT: link to bbc --> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-50344964

The alleged mastermind of the brutal abduction and torture of businessman Kevin Lunney died of a heart attack when English police raided his “safe house” in the UK in a series of searches by three police forces this morning.


Mob boss Cyril McGuinness, who is well known to police on both sides of the Border as well as the UK and mainland Europe, died when armed police raided the property in the Derby area of England after getting the location of the secret hideout from gardai.

McGuinness had regarded where he was "lying low" as a “safe” house and believed that police had not known his whereabouts.

Sources said that McGuinness “must have been completely shocked” when police kicked in the door, which was one of 18 locations searched in co-ordinated raids this morning by gardai, the PSNI and English police.

Gardai believe the Co Fermanagh thug nicknamed ‘Dublin Jimmy’ was the criminal who ordered the attack on respected businessman Mr Lunney.

He is thought to have been hired by another person, known as “The Paymaster” to form a gang to kidnap Mr Lunney and intimidate him and his fellow directors to resign from their posts in Quinn Holdings.

“This is a bizarre development but the information coming from England is that he simply suffered a heart attack when the raid happened and had not been restrained or tasered by officers in the course of the raid,” a senior source said.

McGuinness, who was aged in his early 50’s, is from Co Fermanagh and has more than 50 convictions.

These include one in Belgium for leading a gang smuggling plant machinery into Ireland.

Mr Lunney, a 50-year-old father of six was abducted from his car near his home in Derrylin, Co Fermanagh at around 6.40pm that day.

He was allegedly assaulted at a second location, the same evening, before being left at the side of the road at Drumcoughill, Cornafean, Co Cavan sometime before 9pm.

The Quinn Industrial Holdings (QIH) director had his neck cut with a blade during the ordeal. He also sustained a broken leg and some of his fingernails removed.

Cross-border searches

Gardaalong with the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) and the Derbyshire Constabulary in England, carried out the searches this morning as part of a larger ongoing criminal investigation.

Members of An Garda Sh searched a mix of domestic dwellings and business premises in five locations in Co Cavan, three locations in Co Longford and four locations in Dublin.

Their investigation, in conjunction with UK police services, also saw the PSNI search five locations in Northern Ireland the Derbyshire Constabulary search one further location in UK.

These searches are part of the evidence gathering stage, to progress the investigations into the abduction, false imprisonment and assault of Kevin Lunney on the September 17 of this year.

Garda Commissioner Drew Harris said it is their “understanding” that a suspect in the Kevin Lunney abduction has died in the UK but that the matter is being pursued by authorities in England.

ACC Hamilton said that police in England were commissioned to search a property by the PSNI and that the death of a man was “regrettable” and could not comment further.

Mr Harris also told reporters at Garda Headquarters that he has signed off on a Joint Investigation Team to ensure increased cooperation between Gardai and the PSNI.

The Garda Commissioner said this will centre on the attacks on QIH and will investigate any future crimes as well as previous attacks on the business and its directors.

In a joint press conference with Assistant Chief Constable Mark Hamilton of the PSNI he said that this was to ensure a “joint and robust” response to the attacks in a cooperative manner.

Asked if they were targeting the ‘paymaster’ bankrolling the attacks on QIH, ACC Hamilton said that their investigation was wide ranging.

Garda Commissioner Drew Harris added that their investigation is multi faceted including the “motivation” which is being investigated.

'Ruthless' McGuinness

Cyril McGuinness was regarded as being an extremely dangerous and ruthless criminal who has connections with organised crime across Europe.

He is an expert planner of crimes and masterminded at least 18 robberies of ATM machines using diggers in 2009 before he was extradited to Belgium over a €3.4m smuggling racket.

He used the proceeds of the ATM robberies as a nest egg after losing his legal bid to stop his extradition to Belgium which took place in August 2011.

However the gang was brought down by the garda organised crime unit with several members arrested during robberies and later convicted. Although McGuinness was questioned there was not enough evidence to bring charges.

McGuinness was one of the country’s top smuggler and was convicted in Belgium of running a €3.4m smuggling racket between 2006 and 2008.

He and his cronies stole 20 trucks, tractors and trailers from farms in Belgium and smuggled them into Ireland. He was nabbed after one of the machines was fitted with a tracker and led police to him.

When he was sent to jail in Belgium the theft of farm machinery in the Republic of Ireland fell by over 50% and gardai directly attributed this to the fact McGuinness was locked up.

McGuinness, who was once recruited by MI5, has links to the Continuity IRA has been on the garda and PSNI radars for over 25 years.

During the 1990s he ran a gang specialising in stealing farm machinery, diggers and other heavy machinery from building sites in England and shipping them to Ireland.

He once used a digger to drive over the top of a Mercedes car with his intended victim inside and he was convicted of attempted murder for that stunt.

He also served time for burning down the house of a man who owed him money and in 1997 he and another man pleaded guilty to 44 charges of illegal dumping.

Lunney attack

Mr Lunney told BBC Northern Ireland’s ‘Spotlight’ programme earlier in the week how he was bundled into a car boot at knifepoint by a gang of three men. Mr Lunney went on to describe the torture he suffered during his attack.

He was in the boot when he overheard one of his captors talking on the phone, addressing someone as “boss”. After a hood was placed over his head, and he was led to a horsebox, his captors then told him they wanted him to resign from QIH, which he agreed to before the torture started.

“One of them started with the Stanley knife on each of my fingers... he started to run the Stanley knife under each nail quite hard and deep so each of them were bleeding a bit, deep enough that it was sore and painful,” he said.

The captors then poured bleach over Mr Lunney.

“That was very, very sore [because of the cuts] then he started with a cloth and started to rub my hands which were tied, rubbed them and rubbed them, really, really hard, and that was agony with the bleach,” he said.

“It was excruciating, the pain of the bleach – I was screaming, I think. Then they pulled me up and somebody said: ‘Have you done his face.’ Next thing there was a squirt of bleach in my face, into my eyes... there was a lot of fumes, I started to cough and almost passed out,” he said.

At this point, they told him again to resign from QIH, as well as the other directors.

“I said: ‘I’ll tell them to resign’. He said a number of times, ‘We know you, we have been watching you.’ At one stage he said: ‘We have been watching you, we have seen you with your little daughter with the GAA top and you are going to do what we say.’

“Then he said: ‘OK we believe you, but if you don’t we’ll be back, for you and all the family and everybody’s family.’”

Mr Lunney said his captors told him they “had to rough him up”.

“He says: ‘Hold out your leg’... next thing was he hit it... I think it was a either a baseball bat or a short fence post, and I heard it breaking and I roared, the pain was awful,” he said.

“He said to the other guy holding the torch, ‘Did that snap?’. He said no so he immediately hit it again, same place or close, and it was a hundred times worse the second time.”

As the investigation continues, An Garda Sh has appealed to anyone who may have any information, no matter how insignificant it appears,to contact An Garda Sh at Cavan Garda Station 049 4368800, the Garda Confidential Line 1800 666 111, or Crime Stoppers on 1800 25 00 25 or any Garda Station.

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Lefty Bicek

debok wrote: »

I think your reading it in your offended mind. There not complimenting him by calling him mastermind. It's simply the term used to describe the person that planned out an attack or the person who wanted the attack to take place.
Hope he rots btw.

Safe to say.

celt262

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Name anyone on the forbes 500 list who owns a bank ( bar a Saudi Prince)?, it was hardly a wise ambition

I don't care who is on that list, it but is that not what he was up to?

celt262

AlanG wrote: »

According to locals someone who wants to get control of the company and has a lot of connections wants to drive down the value so that his family can use money they have hidden in Eastern Europe to buy QIH.
These connections were built up through years of paying cash to local "security consultants". These consultants are no longer getting their payoffs as that person can not get their hands on money so easily.

The second part of that makes no sense.

facehugger99

Raconteuse wrote: »

Can someone tell this simpleton why he was attacked, and by whom? Without speaking in code and nudge nudge wink winking I live too far away to understand border talk!

It was the notorious north Lenister mob boss Jimmy the Aardvark.

farmchoice

TuringBot47 wrote: »

Do the English have the equivalent of the CAB, to confiscate his house and assets from that side?

they do, in fact i believe it was modeled on CAB. i remember reading an article about it, at the time it was being brought in the english police referred to colloquially as ''Murphys Law''.

Silly Gilly

Reports that Cyril was a cousin of former Sinn Fein deputy Martin McGuinness. Can anyone confirm?

whisky_galore

Big man who liked terrorising people keels over at a knock at his door.
Not so tough after all.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

celt262

Silly Gilly wrote: »

Reports that Cyril was a cousin of former Sinn Fein deputy Martin McGuinness. Can anyone confirm?

He was related either nephew or cousin.

Silly Gilly

whisky_galore wrote: »

Big man who liked terrorising people keels over at a knock at his door.
Not so tough after all.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

I think the Police may have tasered him which lead to the heart attack and subsequent pissing himself.

NSAman

facehugger99 wrote: »

It was the notorious north Lenister mob boss Jimmy the Aardvark.

Was he not a Slothe? Jimmy the Slothe?

whisky_galore

Silly Gilly wrote: »

I think the Police may have tasered him which lead to the heart attack and subsequent pissing himself.

Good.

Letwin_Larry

i know they wont release it, but i would part with good money to see the police officer's bodycam footage of his ugly mug when they 'er "knocked" on his door.

"wakey! wakey!"

Still waters

He probably die too fast, good riddance

KWAG2019

“Once recruited by MI5”. Now there’s a cast iron way to avoid prosecution for quite a while.

riemann

Deleted User wrote: »

saves the costs of trying him and us paying for it

good riddance.

great riddance in fact.

Innocent until proven guilty?

You have a very simple mind my friend, if you think the ringleader of this whole operation conveniently died while officers were searching his house.

Silly Gilly

celt262 wrote: »

He was related either nephew or cousin.

Thanks. There's definitely a resemblance in some of the images I've seen of him. Like a fatter, scummier version of Martin.

Letwin_Larry

what the fool didn't realise is the attack on Mr. Lunney, had wider economic implications. ie the ability/willingness of MNCs/FDI to locate in the border area and perhaps beyond.
he effectively attracted a hugh $hitstorm on his head, on both sides of the border and on both islands.

the deaths of those poor Vietnamese people would also have strengthened the resolve of the powers of state to sort this lot out.

hopefully some good will come of this, and i congratulate the Gardai, the PSNI, and Derbyshire Police on some brillant work.

Larbre34

riemann wrote: »

Innocent until proven guilty?

You have a very simple mind my friend, if you think the ringleader of this whole operation conveniently died while officers were searching his house.

Some people delight in a conspiracy, particularly those uninclined to pay TV licence fees. However most often, a cigar is just a cigar.

I absolutely accept that an overweight, middle-aged man, living a stressful life (self induced) might well have a dicky ticker that could throw a jammer at any moment, not least from the shock of the cops kicking in his door in a house he thought he was safe in, or from a taser blast if he resisted. He may also have thought he was facing a worse fate from a dangerous enemy that found him and literally and figuratively shat himself.

If you further think that police officers engaged in a raid linked directly to a couple of the highest profile and most appalling cases in both Britain and Ireland this year were not going to carry out the raid absolutely by the book, then you're even madder.

Either way, if he is the man behind these things, my only regret is his loss as a source of information to the paymasters.

Letwin_Larry

well if they ever decide to make a movie about this guy, and god only knows why, then they wont have far to look .....

NIMAN

radharc wrote: »

Oh well that's fair enough then. We shouldn't expect the gardai to be able to catch the clever criminals.

... and in the end it was our useless police force who actually provided the intel to the UK team to break down his door.

They had no idea about him, who he was or what he had done.

macwal

Larbre34 wrote: »

....

Either way, if he is the man behind these things, my only regret is his loss as a source of information to the paymasters.

One article I read in the past few minutes describes the police as finding a "treasure trove" of information at the house in Derbyshire.


Hopefully its true, and destroys the lives of these criminals and their families and associates.

SafeSurfer

macwal wrote: »

One article I read in the past few minutes describes the police as finding a "treasure trove" of information at the house in Derbyshire.


Hopefully its true, and destroys the lives of these criminals and their families and associates.

Sometimes statements like that are released to give associates some squeaky bum time in the hope of garnering some voluntary information.

KaneToad

Raconteuse wrote: »

Can someone tell this simpleton why he was attacked, and by whom? Without speaking in code and nudge nudge wink winking I live too far away to understand border talk!

The ambition of these thugs, to take down QIH, was so that it could be taken over by someone else. It wasn't going to be the thugs who were eyeing up control of the company. It was someone else.

Incidentally, this chief ringleader, who died, is a Derrylin man. Small world, eh?

Montage of Feck

Fergul Quinn is dead!!! At least his sausages will live on.