Youths Rugby

The Lost Sheep · 04-12-2019 10:37pm

Clareman wrote: »

3 Ennis lads, 1 of them captained Ireland in the last game, have to say I'm delighted

they have the pick of the entire county and have really improved their coaching standards. Hopefully will see adult sides in club to progress and some players will get to academy/pro level soon.
Munster really need the big county towns in the province to do better. The biggest towns in the country dont have the best rugby teams at adult level by and large. It would be nice if Munster could change that...

Hands Like Flippers · 04-12-2019 11:29pm

Clareman wrote: »

3 Ennis lads, 1 of them captained Ireland in the last game, have to say I'm delighted

What positions do they play?

Quin_Dub · 05-12-2019 10:29am

Clareman wrote: »

3 Ennis lads, 1 of them captained Ireland in the last game, have to say I'm delighted

4th year in a row having players at that level from Ennis, although 3 together is a new high.

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

they have the pick of the entire county and have really improved their coaching standards. Hopefully will see adult sides in club to progress and some players will get to academy/pro level soon.
Munster really need the big county towns in the province to do better. The biggest towns in the country dont have the best rugby teams at adult level by and large. It would be nice if Munster could change that...

Adult team is unbeaten this year so far - A number of the squad that won the Munster U18 Cup in 2017 are starting on the team and it's a fairly young squad now , so hopefully will start making upward progress.

The Club have set a goal of getting to Senior Status for 2023 (the Club centenary) which is ambitious but a good target to shoot for.

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

What positions do they play?

8,9 & 10

Conor Moloney is an 8 (although has played across the backrow for Munster)
Ethan Coghlan is Scrum-half , he was capped last year as well
Tony Butler is Outhalf.

Also - Ennis U18.5 playing Ard Scoil Ris SCT this Saturday morning in Limerick which should be a very good game.

Clareman · 05-12-2019 11:46am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

they have the pick of the entire county and have really improved their coaching standards. Hopefully will see adult sides in club to progress and some players will get to academy/pro level soon.
Munster really need the big county towns in the province to do better. The biggest towns in the country dont have the best rugby teams at adult level by and large. It would be nice if Munster could change that...

Kilrush, Senan's and Scariff have good picks as well. The big problem in Ennis for years was as soon as someone was good enough they went off to a club in Limerick, I think Richmond had 3 Ennis lads on their team when they were in the AIL, 1 of them captained them the year they got promoted and another captained them the year in the AIL. Saying that, I would imagine that the 3 lads selected for Ireland will either go into the academy or play for a senior club in Limerick.

Saying that the coaching has really picked up there, some of the folks there should be applauded, especially the youth officer. Munster Rugby have put in great structures as well though so it's a big team effort.

The Lost Sheep · 05-12-2019 7:50pm

Clareman wrote: »

Kilrush, Senan's and Scariff have good picks as well. The big problem in Ennis for years was as soon as someone was good enough they went off to a club in Limerick, I think Richmond had 3 Ennis lads on their team when they were in the AIL, 1 of them captained them the year they got promoted and another captained them the year in the AIL. Saying that, I would imagine that the 3 lads selected for Ireland will either go into the academy or play for a senior club in Limerick.

Saying that the coaching has really picked up there, some of the folks there should be applauded, especially the youth officer. Munster Rugby have put in great structures as well though so it's a big team effort.

kilrush and Senans dont really and scariff dont either to large extent. Senans at least are a division 1 junior club but others are not and wont be ever really.

Quin_Dub · 05-12-2019 8:06pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

kilrush and Senans dont really and scariff dont either to large extent. Senans at least are a division 1 junior club but others are not and wont be ever really.

That's certainly true at Youth/Underage.

None of the above field teams at all ages consistently, I'm not aware of Scariff fielding much beyond U13/U14 at any stage.

Both Kilrush and Senans have decent sides at u16 this year but they are very much the exception for them.

Scariff and Ennis are both Div3 whilst Senans are in Div 2 this year.

Sadly Kilrush no longer field an adult team.

The Lost Sheep · 05-12-2019 9:47pm

Quin_Dub wrote: »

4th year in a row having players at that level from Ennis, although 3 together is a new high.

considering size of town etc they should be doing very well

Adult team is unbeaten this year so far - A number of the squad that won the Munster U18 Cup in 2017 are starting on the team and it's a fairly young squad now , so hopefully will start making upward progress.

The Club have set a goal of getting to Senior Status for 2023 (the Club centenary) which is ambitious but a good target to shoot for

good to see that. Hopefully club can keep them. Look to bandon as example or further back clonakilty who went senior and were able to flourish on back several under 16 and 18 sides who were provincial/all Ireland winning sides
Ennis may last longer at senior as they're closer to city for access to other players and for work prospects
That's a good goal and would be great for the sport if they did go up.

Also - Ennis U18.5 playing Ard Scoil Ris SCT this Saturday morning in Limerick which should be a very good game.

saw that earlier in the week. Will be very interesting to see how that goes.

Quin_Dub wrote: »

That's certainly true at Youth/Underage.

None of the above field teams at all ages consistently, I'm not aware of Scariff fielding much beyond U13/U14 at any stage.

Both Kilrush and Senans have decent sides at u16 this year but they are very much the exception for them.

Scariff and Ennis are both Div3 whilst Senans are in Div 2 this year.

Sadly Kilrush no longer field an adult team.

scarriff have in past very occasionally fielded at older age groups and they did when Shane o Leary was at that age grade though most often at older ages any still playing either go into limerick or up to Nenagh to play.
Very much an exception for Kilrush. Quite often been issues with Kilrush playing away but they would play their home games at 16s/18s some years!

Shame kileush not fielding at adult level. Would be great to see it happening again!

Quin_Dub · 07-12-2019 2:51pm

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Also - Ennis U18.5 playing Ard Scoil Ris SCT this Saturday morning in Limerick which should be a very good game.

Ennis beat Ard Scoil 49-19

Very good game

Hands Like Flippers · 30-12-2019 12:47am

Schools beat Clubs today. Dont know the score but it was by a fair margin.

The Lost Sheep · 30-12-2019 12:56am

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

Schools beat Clubs today. Dont know the score but it was by a fair margin.

was more schools v clubs and schools though not exactly schools v clubs though?
It was 54-12. Its basically Ireland u18 A v u18 Bs but exiles aren't able play on the As side

Hands Like Flippers · 30-12-2019 8:58am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

was more schools v clubs and schools though not exactly schools v clubs though?
It was 54-12. Its basically Ireland u18 A v u18 Bs but exiles aren't able play on the As side

Ok thanks.

The Lost Sheep · 05-01-2020 9:45pm

Munster u16/18 cup has started
Plenty provincial games at 16s/17s etc on over xmas break

Appears Irish 18s just picked two teams for that game but picked one side far stronger than the other and it wasnt actually A v B. Will be interesting to see how things change for the actual internationals in April...

The Lost Sheep · 20-01-2020 9:09pm

Connacht cup draws made tonight.

connemara man · 29-01-2020 10:56pm

Deleted posts relating to the schools game There is a dedicated thread for schools with its own rules please stick to them

Quin_Dub · 30-01-2020 11:53am

Final Rounds of the Munster Cup this week end

At Under 18.5 Ennis, Nenagh and Cobh Pirates are leading the 3 groups and all are unbeaten so far

Group 1
TEAM PLD W D L PTS
Ennis Red 4 4 0 0 16
Abbeyfeale 4 3 0 1 12
Bandon RFC 3 2 0 1 8
Mallow 4 2 0 2 8
Cork Con 3 0 0 3 0
Carrick-on-Suir 4 0 0 4 0

Group 1 sees 2 big games this week-end , with Ennis travelling to Bandon and Mallow hosting Abbeyfeale. If Ennis win they qualify as group winners but if Bandon win and then win their delayed fixture against Cork Con, they would go through as group winners with Ennis in 2nd. If Ennis win though , 2nd/3rd could get get complicated as if Mallow also win there could be 3 teams on 12 points and each will have beaten the other so playoffs or draws out of a hat are a real possibility. However if Abbeyfeale win then they could finish level on points with Bandon but having won the head to head they would get 2nd place and a QF spot with Bandon going into the playoffs and Mallow missing out.

Group 2
TEAM PLD W D L PTS
Cobh Pirates 4 4 0 0 16
Highfield 4 3 0 1 12
Skibbereen 4 2 0 2 8
Midleton 4 2 0 2 8
Bruff 4 1 0 3 4
Killarney 4 0 0 4 0

Group 2 is a little clearer , Cobh are unbeaten and the top three teams are all playing the bottom 3 teams so if results go as expected it should see the table order remain as is with Cobh as winners , Highfield getting an away QF and Skib going into a draw/playoff for a QF spot

Group 3
TEAM PLD W D L PTS
Nenagh Ormond 4 4 0 0 16
Waterpark 4 3 0 1 12
Sundays Well 4 3 0 1 12
Muskerry 4 1 0 3 4
Young Munster 4 1 0 3 4
Listowel-Tralee 4 0 0 4 0

In Group 3 Nenagh can't be caught as they have won the head to heads against their challengers so they go through as Group winners regardless of their result this week-end. The big game this weekend is Waterpark vs. Sundays Well - The winner there getting the QF spot and the loser going into the draw/playoff for a QF place.

** The rules for QF qualifications are as follows.

3 Group winners get Home QF
2nd place teams go into a hat and 1st name out gets final home QF , other 2 get away QF
3rd place teams go into a hat and 1st name out gets an away QF , other 2 go into a play off for the final away QF spot.

The Lost Sheep · 13-02-2020 6:04pm

https://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic_news/bank-of-ireland-munster-clubs-age-grade-launch/

In connacht some of the under 14 and 15 league finals are this weekend while the under 16 and 18 leagues are at semi final stage

Quin_Dub · 14-02-2020 11:42am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

https://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic_news/bank-of-ireland-munster-clubs-age-grade-launch/

In connacht some of the under 14 and 15 league finals are this weekend while the under 16 and 18 leagues are at semi final stage

Draw made for Munster U16/U18.5 Cup knock-out phase

U16

QF1 Kinsale vs Kilrush
QF2 Skiberreen vs Cobh Pirates
QF3 Clonakilty vs Midleton or Bruff
QF4 Abbeyfeale vs Charleville

SF1 - Winner of QF2 vs Winner QF1
SF2 - Winner of QF3 vs Winner QF 4

Final Winner SF1 vs Winner SF2

U18.5

QF1 Ennis vs Skiberreen
QF2 Nenagh vs Waterpark
QF3 Highfield vs Abbyefeale
QF4 Cobh Pirates vs Bandon or Cork Con

SF1 - Winner of QF2 vs Winner QF1
SF2 - Winner of QF3 vs Winner QF 4

Final Winner SF1 vs Winner SF2

Final QF qualifying playoffs this week-end with Quarter-finals played on 22/23rd Feb , Semi-Finals on 29th/1st with the Finals in Independent Park on March 15th

The Lost Sheep · 23-02-2020 10:29pm

In Munster semis will be Ennis v Nenagh and Abbeyfeale v Cobh and 16s cup will be Cobh v Kinsale and Clonakilty v Abbeyfeale or Charleville
After this weekends games

Quin_Dub · 24-02-2020 12:04am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

In Munster semis will be Ennis v Nenagh and Abbeyfeale v Cobh and 16s cup will be Cobh v Kinsale and Clonakilty v Abbeyfeale or Charleville
After this weekends games

18's is the opposite way around - Ennis vs Abbeyfeale and Cobh vs Nenagh.

Mistake in my earlier mail....

The Lost Sheep · 01-03-2020 11:44pm

Some Munster finalists known now but quite a few knock out games this weekend were off due to the weather

Munster Club Under 18 Cup Semi-Final: Abbeyfeale 15, Ennis Red 22;

Munster Club Under 18 Bowl Semi-Final: Cashel-Fethard 14, Old Christians 47;

Munster Club Under 18 Development Cup: Bruff 24, Cork Constitution 17;

Killarney 12, Mallow 20;

Young Munster 29, Carrick-on-Suir 5;

Munster Club Under 18 Development Plate: Fermoy 31, Clonmel 5;

Old Crescent 10, Thurles 19;

Munster Club Under 16 Cup Semi-Finals: Clonakilty 33, Abbeyfeale 17;

Cobh Pirates Black 34, Kinsale 12;

Munster Club Under 16 Plate Semi-Finals: Nenagh Ormond 22, Chorca Dhuibhne 12;

Sunday’s Well 7, Douglas-Carrigaline-Dolphin 15;

Munster Club Under 16 Bowl Semi-Finals: Ennis White 12, Old Crescent-UL Bohemian 24;

Munster Club Under 16 Development Cup: Clonmel 10, Muskerry 17;

Munster Club Under 16 Development Plate: Listowel-Tralee 19, Cashel 12;

The Lost Sheep · 01-03-2020 11:51pm

A lot of games off this weekend.

Ballinasloe won connacht 18s A league beating Ballinasloe today
Corinthians and Creggs play 16s league final next weekend

FellasFellas · 01-03-2020 11:56pm

Any link to the Munster 20.5 League Table?

Fraser McMullen draw will be next week after last round of JP games.

The Lost Sheep · 01-03-2020 11:58pm

FellasFellas wrote: »

Any link to the Munster 20.5 League Table?

Fraser McMullen draw will be next week after last round of JP games.

I was about to post it in the 20s thread.

Garfin · 02-03-2020 12:00pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

A lot of games off this weekend.

Ballinasloe won connacht 18s A league beating Ballinasloe today
Corinthians and Creggs play 16s league final next weekend

Ballinasloe retained the Connacht U18 League Title beating Ballina 26-17 in Creggs RFC yesterday.

Quin_Dub · 02-03-2020 1:21pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Some Munster finalists known now but quite a few knock out games this weekend were off due to the weather

Munster Club Under 18 Cup Semi-Final: Abbeyfeale 15, Ennis Red 22;

Munster Club Under 18 Bowl Semi-Final: Cashel-Fethard 14, Old Christians 47;

Munster Club Under 18 Development Cup: Bruff 24, Cork Constitution 17;

Killarney 12, Mallow 20;

Young Munster 29, Carrick-on-Suir 5;

Munster Club Under 18 Development Plate: Fermoy 31, Clonmel 5;

Old Crescent 10, Thurles 19;

Munster Club Under 16 Cup Semi-Finals: Clonakilty 33, Abbeyfeale 17;

Cobh Pirates Black 34, Kinsale 12;

Munster Club Under 16 Plate Semi-Finals: Nenagh Ormond 22, Chorca Dhuibhne 12;

Sunday’s Well 7, Douglas-Carrigaline-Dolphin 15;

Munster Club Under 16 Bowl Semi-Finals: Ennis White 12, Old Crescent-UL Bohemian 24;

Munster Club Under 16 Development Cup: Clonmel 10, Muskerry 17;

Munster Club Under 16 Development Plate: Listowel-Tralee 19, Cashel 12;

At U18, the Cobh/Nenagh game was called off due to the weather and is now rescheduled for next Saturday at 1pm in Bruff.

The Lost Sheep · 03-03-2020 4:47pm

Cobh and Nenagh now set to be played in Cashel

Leinster finals are this weekend in Mullingar
16s: Tullow v Naas
18s: Tullow v Wexford

Connacht 16s replay is on. Corinthians and Creggs

The Lost Sheep · 05-08-2020 6:57pm

https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/gallery/leinster-under-18-clubs-returntorugby/

The Lost Sheep · 15-12-2020 8:27pm

Leinster have some info about competitions for age grade this season. hopefully they do go ahead in schools and clubs

would be nice if schools cups kept these group formats in future years
https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/bank-of-ireland-schools-cup-draws-to-be-broadcast-this-thursday/?FixGuid=

shaungil · 15-12-2020 8:37pm

I think this is pretty optimistic. Contact training first week in January with matches three weeks later when all signs are pointing to another tightening of restrictions in January.

I coach an underage team and if we get 4 or 5 matches this season I'd be happy at this stage.

Quin_Dub · 16-12-2020 10:36am

shaungil wrote: »

I think this is pretty optimistic. Contact training first week in January with matches three weeks later when all signs are pointing to another tightening of restrictions in January.

I coach an underage team and if we get 4 or 5 matches this season I'd be happy at this stage.

Sadly I think you are correct.

We are likely to move back to some variant of Level 3 in January which put a block on contact training for another period of time.

I think the schools competitions are at real risk as I can't see using being at Level 2 in January or February and the clubs may just about get to play the regional Cup competitions in April which would amount a half dozen games at the most.

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