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UFC 189 - McGregor v Mendes *READ MOD WARNING IN 1st POST*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman




    Nothing we haven't seen before, but great little promo vid by the UFC. That interview Conor did in 2008 has turned out to be gold. You can't fault his self-belief and work ethic, incredible really the amount of work he's put in to get where he is.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    Looks so young in that.......he's definitely grown into himself as they say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭JacksonHeightsOwn


    has anybody got a link to the 3rd episode of the embedded series?

    Its up on mmafighting.com but its set to private so unwatchable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 374 ✭✭Jjiipp79


    Fuk me how could you not love McGregor.......

    C'mon


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    it's not on ufc or the ufc youtube channel so I dunno what's going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    4th July in America so probably get none today


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭Old Perry


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    it's not on ufc or the ufc youtube channel so I dunno what's going on.

    I seen it earlier on a website calledbloodyelbow.com. google embedded ep3 and ya should get it. on the phone now so cant link.

    although now that i think of it the ep was a bit wierd.

    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/3/25/8287441/ufc-189-world-championship-tour-embedded-episode-3-conor-mcgregor-news


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭Old Perry


    nc19 wrote: »
    Looks so young in that.......he's definitely grown into himself as they say

    Yeah, thought he was the image of the father in that conan interview.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    Old Perry wrote: »
    I seen it earlier on a website calledbloodyelbow.com. google embedded ep3 and ya should get it. on the phone now so cant link.

    although now that i think of it the ep was a bit wierd.

    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/3/25/8287441/ufc-189-world-championship-tour-embedded-episode-3-conor-mcgregor-news

    That's the embedded series from the world tour. Article starts with Aldo still fighting a d it says 25th of March on the article.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭Old Perry


    That's the embedded series from the world tour. Article starts with Aldo still fighting a d it says 25th of March on the article.

    Ah fair nuff. Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Pulse8


    It was up at about 8am this morning & then mysteriously made private, lot of ppl online thinkin it was cos it showed Mendes's number but sure anyone who saw the FB post would've already seen that....he would obv have a new one by now I'm sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    could be something to do with the conan footage perhaps?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I saw the third embedded before it was taken down earlier. Conor on Conan and Mendes admits he is a funny guy, good enough one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,735 ✭✭✭Stuxnet


    I saw it also, was a good ep, ended Chad saying after watching Conor on Conan, he's a funny entertaining guy, looks to the camera iircc and says something along the lines, you don't have to act so tough all the time Conor, implying he can be cool, but chill tfo :) Iircc


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭Old Perry


    Stuxnet wrote: »
    I saw it also, was a good ep, ended Chad saying after watching Conor on Conan, he's a funny entertaining guy, looks to the camera iircc and says something along the lines, you don't have to act so tough all the time Conor, implying he can be cool, but chill tfo :) Iircc

    chads cool as a cucumber. i read on reddit that it being tsken down had something to do with sonnen putting ou chads number.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Did Conor predict what round he'd finish mendes in yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Did Conor predict what round he'd finish mendes in yet?

    Inside 4 minutes i think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Here's embedded for anyone that didn't see it.

    http://streamable.com/s92a


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    http://severemma.com/2015/07/video-ufc-189-embedded-vlog-episode-3/
    video is watchable here for anyone that hasnt seen it yet
    EDIT: beaten to it :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 anpanman


    This is obviously a very biased thread. A load of Irish lads writing off one of the best wrestlers in mma. Conor has never fought a ncaa div 1 calibre wrestler and he will be put on his arse early in every round and get ground and pounded either to tko or unanimous decision to chad. Sorry lads just being real. He's only fought Muppets thus far.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    anpanman wrote: »
    This is obviously a very biased thread. A load of Irish writing off one of the best wrestlers in mma. Conor has never fought a ncaa div 1 calibre wrestler and he will be put on his arse early in every round and get ground and pounded either to tko or unanimous decision to chad. Sorry lads just being real. He's only fought Muppets thus far.

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=can+of+worms&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#imgrc=nmJmcHIcGyKQLM%3A


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    anpanman wrote: »
    This is obviously a very biased thread. A load of Irish lads writing off one of the best wrestlers in mma. Conor has never fought a ncaa div 1 calibre wrestler and he will be put on his arse early in every round and get ground and pounded either to tko or unanimous decision to chad. Sorry lads just being real. He's only fought Muppets thus far.

    An IRISH MMA forum, frequented by mainly IRISH fans and they're all supporting an IRISH fighter, well fcuk me, who'd have thought it

    Only muppets.......i laughed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    anpanman wrote: »
    This is obviously a very biased thread. A load of Irish lads writing off one of the best wrestlers in mma. Conor has never fought a ncaa div 1 calibre wrestler and he will be put on his arse early in every round and get ground and pounded either to tko or unanimous decision to chad. Sorry lads just being real. He's only fought Muppets thus far.

    Careful now.
    080110_ea_mma_bas_rutten_t.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 anpanman


    Perhaps Muppets was over the top but I liked conors chances against aldo. I just think chad will get him down and I cant see Conor getting back to his feet. Chad Mendes is a beast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    anpanman wrote: »
    This is obviously a very biased thread. A load of Irish lads writing off one of the best wrestlers in mma. Conor has never fought a ncaa div 1 calibre wrestler and he will be put on his arse early in every round and get ground and pounded either to tko or unanimous decision to chad. Sorry lads just being real. He's only fought Muppets thus far.

    No one's writing Mendes off and your post is ridiculous. Hating Conor does not equate to him being ****, no matter how much you want it to be true. I have no idea who'll win but either side writing off the other, which is what you're doing, has no clue what they're talking about.

    You're also trolling, so bye bye.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I'm guessing a wrestler would try and submit someone?


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 anpanman


    I'm not trolling I just think everyone has Conor down as the winner. I just hope its more of a fight than conors last ufc fights. I would love to see Conor defend off his back and break a sweat against possibly the best wrestler in mma


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    I'm guessing a wrestler would try and submit someone?

    Usually not. They control the opponent and land punches and elbows. But they can and do submit guys too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    anpanman wrote: »
    I'm not trolling I just think everyone has Conor down as the winner. I just hope its more of a fight than conors last ufc fights. I would love to see Conor defend off his back and break a sweat against possibly the best wrestler in mma

    He's far from the best wrestler in mma


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 anpanman


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    He's far from the best wrestler in mma

    He has about 64 ncaa d1 wins he's a beast


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭bur


    This fight shows what a piss poor effort the UFC makes of hyping most of their events. They just get lucky now and then when someone like Conor comes along and captivates the media.

    Lawlor's is one of the best stories in all of MMA and there has been nothing. I know he has the personality of a stone but come on, it's still an easy story to sell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭Old Perry


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    I'm guessing a wrestler would try and submit someone?

    Thought this as well a while ago but if i remember corrrctly only 2 of his pro wins have come from subs and the rest a fairly even devide between decision an T/KO. maybe someone could explain why this is? like i watched a cerrone video the other day and if got someone on the ground it seemed he was always going for submission or back to the feet. Would i be wrong in sayin conor is similar to chad in that he may prefer to just keeping punching when it goes to ground?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    anpanman wrote: »
    He has about 64 ncaa d1 wins he's a beast

    Henry cejudo, Daniel Cormier, Yoel Romero are top of the food chain wrestlers. Mendes is a level below but nonetheless still a beast as you rightly said


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    Old Perry wrote: »
    Thought this as well a while ago but if i remember corrrctly only 2 of his pro wins have come from subs and the rest a fairly even devide between decision an T/KO. maybe someone could explain why this is? like i watched a cerrone video the other day and if got someone on the ground it seemed he was always going for submission or back to the feet. Would i be wrong in sayin conor is similar to chad in that he may prefer to just keeping punching when it goes to ground?

    There are no submissions in wrestling, wrestlers coming to MMA are basically starting from scratch in that regard. It's a lot easier to learn how to rain down punches from dominant positions than to learn how to apply subs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Old Perry wrote: »
    Thought this as well a while ago but if i remember corrrctly only 2 of his pro wins have come from subs and the rest a fairly even devide between decision an T/KO. maybe someone could explain why this is? like i watched a cerrone video the other day and if got someone on the ground it seemed he was always going for submission or back to the feet. Would i be wrong in sayin conor is similar to chad in that he may prefer to just keeping punching when it goes to ground?

    Basically wrestling doesnt equate to BJJ, so just because you have good wrestling doesnt mean your going to sub everyone. A wrestler will more often than not take the guy down and look for the ground and pound as opposed to subs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    UFC released episode 3 again edited out the part with Mendes saying Conor can be funny and just needs to chill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Davei141 wrote: »
    UFC released episode 3 again edited out the part with Mendes saying Conor can be funny and just needs to chill.

    Was wondering why they took it down earlier, guess the gotta create the bad blood!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Glade87


    Interim title??? Really? I feel they should have made the Diaz fight... Mendes is a boring fighter and he has clearly stated his intentions... Put McGregor on his back (which he will succeed in doing) and keep him there... FOR 5 ROUNDS.

    I want Mcgregor to win but this fight is a stupid risk, he got the title shot, it should have been put in the bank... because let's say Diaz beat McGregor... his title shot is still in the bank. Let's say Mendes puts on the most boring display ever seen and pins McGregor for the whole fight... suddenly McGregor is at the back of the queue.

    It's a stupid risk considering Dana White will be redder than a tomato should this occur. I want McGregor to do well but if I'm being honest, I think Mendes is a terrible match up for him at such short notice... Mendes is no joke... BORING but no joke.

    McGregor is a young guy, it's seems people forget this, sometimes you have to learn things the hard way. I think it's great what he's done... real talent... but experienced against top level guys??? NO

    Mendes is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    Chad Mendes is boring? I must of dreamt watching his last 6/7 fights and all of his KOs. Since his first loss to Aldo he's been a beast, blasting through everyone.

    McGregor would of had to fight him at some stage, it's just earlier than we thought. You got beat the best etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    If Conor is going to be champion he would need to beat Mendes sooner rather than later regardless. It's a risk for the UFC but really I think Conor's self-belief is so unwavering that the possibility of losing doesn't even enter the equation. I'm happy he's taking the risk, it adds to his character and will shut up a huge amount of naysayers if he wins.

    Mendes isn't boring btw. Saying he'll take McGregor down and doing it are two different things. He may take him down more than once but I seriously doubt Conor will be kept on the mat for the majority of the fight. He's obviously not on Mendes' level wrestling wise but he's very slippery and hard to keep down apparently. And so far his takedown defense has looked quite good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Glade87 wrote: »
    Interim title??? Really? I feel they should have made the Diaz fight... Mendes is a boring fighter and he has clearly stated his intentions... Put McGregor on his back (which he will succeed in doing) and keep him there... FOR 5 ROUNDS.

    Diaz had his chance to be on this card against Matt Brown and bailed on it. Why should he suddenly be given Conor at lightweight?

    The interim title is a bit of a nonsense but they have to appease travelling fans who were scheduled to see a 5 round fight.

    As someone travelling over, I'm happy that it's a potential 5 rounder. I do think it's a bit mental having an interim title headline over an actual title being contested at welterweight.

    But that's the UFC. It's their job to sell fights/fighters. Conor's done most of the leg work in promoting the previous fight. They've got lucky in that there was the makings of a beef in the undercurrent with Mendes so we go again with the thrash talking etc.

    As for Mendes being a boring fighter, I can't honestly see why you're saying that. He was involved in an absolute dog fight with Aldo in their second fight and blitzed Lamas in April.

    I don't think it's as exciting as Aldo/McGregor but it will hopefully silence the doubters who say he hasn't fought a wrestler.

    The build up is hard to get into right now but come fight night, I'll be yelling my lungs out.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Is Mcgregor fight still happening after Lawler v Macdonald surely the real title fight in a heavier division should go last?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    The majority of people watching this will be to either watch Conor win or lose. He's the main draw so gets the main slot. UFC rewards those that makes them money and rightfully so.

    That cryo chamber thing Chad went into in latest Embedded looked crazy. Was that top help with the weight cut?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Beersmith


    Is Mcgregor fight still happening after Lawler v Macdonald surely the real title fight in a heavier division should go last?

    Why should a heavier one go last? Its usually the case but that because fans are generally more interested in the heavier fighters, not so in this case


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    sheehy83 wrote: »
    That cryo chamber thing Chad went into in latest Embedded looked crazy. Was that top help with the weight cut?

    Don't think so.

    As far as i know it helps you in post workout recovery, it's just an extreme ice bath after a workout.

    The Irish rugby team used to do it and the Welsh team still do it now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Yeah its just for recovery, when youre in it all the blood rushes to your internal organs and then when you return to normal temperature all the blood rushes to your extremities, supposed to work wonders for recovery of small injuries.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Beersmith wrote: »
    Why should a heavier one go last? Its usually the case but that because fans are generally more interested in the heavier fighters, not so in this case

    Cause its for a real belt and not an interm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,050 ✭✭✭cletus


    Cause its for a real belt and not an interm?

    A good chunk of the reason for the interim belt is to keep macgregor in a title fight and therefor headlining


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    Cause its for a real belt and not an interm?

    Fair enough but you shouldn't have specified "heavier" in that case.

    I agree btw that 99% the heavier weight classes get top billing, but as pointed out, it's because there's usually more interest. Not in this case. Conor/Mendes is the main event.

    Aldo is still obviously the champion, I don't think anyone will really argue that bar Conor/Chad, and the winner will have to face him next anyway. Not a big deal.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    moneyman wrote: »
    Fair enough but you shouldn't have specified "heavier" in that case.

    I agree btw that 99% the heavier weight classes get top billing, but as pointed out, it's because there's usually more interest. Not in this case. Conor/Mendes is the main event.

    Aldo is still obviously the champion, I don't think anyone will really argue that bar Conor/Chad, and the winner will have to face him next anyway. Not a big deal.

    No I know the majority of people have more interest in the Conor fight but I thought it would be the second last fight now cause its now for the interm belt in a lighter division. Can't wait though 1 week from today :D


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